On Cuomo: I wonder whether…
…these revelations will dim Andrew Cuomo’s newish luster for the Democrats:
Nursing homes in New York were required to accept people with COVID-19, rather than have them go to other settings with less vulnerable populations. This policy easily could have resulted in a significant increase in the death toll.
What did Cuomo know and when did he know it? Does anyone on the left care?
Cuomo’s star has risen on the left for a couple of reasons, all of them coming down to the fact that the left is desperate for a candidate who can talk in some sort of coherent manner and is not really really old. At 62, Cuomo isn’t actually a spring chicken. But he seems nearly fetal compared to the alternative facing the Democratic Party right now.
USNS Comfort reconfiguration to accept Coronavirus patients was done by April 7. Cuomo was aware of this because he said “The hospital ship can treat 500 COVID patients adequately and safely and that’s what we’re transitioning into operation now.”
The failure to use this resource, while instead putting patients and nursing homes into a dangerous situation, sounds to me like willful negligence or worse.
Here is a piece on the same topic over at American Thinker.
One wonders how something like that is even possible. I suspect that if anyone has the temerity to actually ask Cuomo about it, he will claim that he had no knowledge of this. That nobody told him.
TommyJay:
According to the linked article, that’s what he’s claiming.
But what is a governor required to know in a case like this? Shouldn’t he be on top of things regarding the policies in nursing homes, which were always known to be of tremendous vulnerability?
His let em eat cake moment telling a news person that if people want to work they should do an essential job didnt help either…
And somehow they will retro actively classify c19 cases, probably the nursing homes that they refused to help.
I refuse to help those states that did not deal with the issues. NYC still has the subways active without obvious cleaning procedures. Shoot – NY state has more daily cases than my state has in total. And they want me to quarantine in place? No way!
Cuomo was never that great.
both Cuomo and Murphy have blood on their hands for doing this. meh mother and my mother in law were both in rehab centers until early March. had they stayed any longer, Cuomo would have killed them.
what was the point of converting the Javits Center and bringing in the Comfort if the typhoid Marys were gonna infect all theater nursing home patients?
Speaking of subways: someone made a decision to reduce the train lengths because of lesser travel. Probably saved money due to lesser cleaning and maintenance requirements and lower electricity bills from hauling lighter trains…but achieved the opposite of social distancing, forcing passengers closer together than they otherwise would have been.
Would be interesting to know who made this decision and how.
Neo,
I skimmed it again. Third time’s the charm. Cuomo declares his ignorance; indict Howard Zucker, it’s his fault! The first time I also missed the part at the bottom that says that California’s policy is much the same.
As regard your last 6:06 pm point: 1) It really is appalling. 2) Either he is lying his butt off and could not care less, or maybe there really is this tremendous lack of understanding of how command and control and delegation of authority must operate in order to be effective. There must be an effective mechanism for information to flow back up the power chain, from the bottom (or middle) to the top.
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I watched a vaguely interesting bit of TV a week ago or so, of Trump in a Whitehouse conference room with a half dozen of recovered COVID-19 patients. I supposed it was mostly a human interest spot consisting of people telling their stories.
The part that piqued my interest was the young man from CA that got very sick and initially got rejected at every turn when he tried to get tested. Trump changed from his pleasant schmoozing demeanor to almost an interrogator. He hammered the guy with many questions, and then stopped and apologetically explained. He said he wasn’t sure how any of these policies are actually functioning at the lower levels. Please tell me all of it, he said. The young man said he learned that, “I have a fever” are the magic words needed to get tested. Anyway, information flowed from the bottom to the top.
Michigan, today, put out county by county positive COVID-19 cases in long term care facilities. Earlier they had only shown the huge listing of cases by facility. They still won’t list the deaths either by county or facility. Since they do list that 39% of the deaths are of age 80+ and 28% are 70-79 I expect that a large fraction of the deaths are of people who were residents of these facilities.
I’m not faulting the staff as keeping infections at bay when visitors and staff come in from outside daily is a very difficult to do while doing all the personal care that is needed. One asymptomatic person could decimate a care home with one visit. I think that was shown by the Seattle outbreak.
https://www.michigan.gov/coronavirus/0,9753,7-406-98163_98173-526911–,00.html
For all the whining about Trump, Cuomo is the real sign of the decline of our civilization. By any objective standard, Cuomo has done an atrocious job handling the COVID-19 pandemic. New York and New Jersey account for about 40% of the coronavirus cases in the U.S. and more than 50% of the deaths. Yet because he performs well in a press conference, AND LITERALLY ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT, people want to hand him the White House.
There’s no way a society can survive if it values the appearance of competence more than actual competence.
Mike
Cuomo claims ignorance. And I call bullshit. He’s stupid but stupidity and ignorance, as we know, are not the same thing. He knows a lot of stuff because he has his hand in nearly everything. He’s not the delegator that Trump is.
I met Cuomo once, back before he was governor, and I wasn’t impressed. I also know people who work with him regularly or have done so in the past. Take his father’s political ambition and deduct about 30 I.Q. points. There’s hilarious video of him out there, from about 3 years ago, after a big series of thunderstorms, visiting areas without power. And he literally hugs trees in the video pretending to talk to the damaged wood, pretending to “listen” to its concerns. Laugh out loud ridiculous.
The nursing home atrocity might hurt him quite a bit actually. That news has been making the rounds here in NYS for a week or two and even people who previously loved him (and they are sadly numerous) are furious about it.
On another note, I hear rumors through people who work in the NYS administration that Cuomo is tossing around the idea of closing schools next year too. He’s already thinking about this, when he should be thinking about plans to reopen.
To me, the schools are a big lynchpin, possibly the biggest: parents pretty much use them for daycare now. How that plays out might ultimately be a huge victory for conservatives, after the dust settles from the economic destruction when people are forced to stay home from work (shutdown or no) because schools don’t reopen. More and more parents are actually seeing what their kid is exposed to and being taught. And more and more moms are liking being home with kids. I hear some, maybe a lot, of kids are thriving since they don’t have to navigate the land mines of the social hell known as Public School.
No, no one on the left cares. If he’s the nominee, it will be ignored or rationalized. (The last arrow in the quiver will be to complain about a lawsuit Trump was involved in in 1989).
I am serious about this.
I see and hear Cuomo and think Michael Corleone.
I wonder how many others that is true of.
Is that good or bad for him?
I always assumed that’s why Chris was called Fredo, not because it was a standard Italo-slur.
I know it’s hard to believe, but it looks like de Blasio was even worse than Cuomo.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/blame-bill-de-blasio/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=more-in&utm_term=first
AesopFan,
That is an amazingly brutal piece.
Fractal Rabbit,
I agree with your comment about the schools. Parents who use the schools for ‘daycare’ won’t have any epiphanies. But as a mom who first did public, then private parochial, and finally home school, I think those parents who are actually counting on the schools to ‘educate’ their children are going to be doing some serious reassessment. The actual time spent on ‘academics’ during a typical 6 hour school day is shockingly small. And the rest of the time isn’t necessarily doing the kids any good. I will be very interested to see if there is a spike in homeschooling next year.
Here in Orange County NY I watch Andrew’s daily TV briefings.
He did Fiorello/FDR schtick for a few weeks and was hailed in the MSM.
As the realization slowly seeps in that NY will be in the pits far into the future (long after Georgia, Florida, and Texas recover), Cuomo’s star descends day by day.
“Does anyone on the left care?”
No.
Molly Brown,
I think any spike in homeschooling will happen in conjunction with employment/unemployment. Homeschooling is largely-and unfortunately- a luxury many families just can’t afford if both parents have to work.
But what if a lot of those families that always wondered if they could do it, suddenly found one or both parents out of work long term?
I only disagree with you about parents using it for daycare having epiphanies: I’ve already seen it on two occasions.
Re homeschooling:
A friend of mine was dissatisfied with our local public elementary schools. She decided to home school her two daughters. She expected that she would have to put in the same number of hours as her daughters spent in public schools–six or seven hours, five days a week.
She actually spent about three hours a day, five days a week on home schooling. Her conclusion was that public schools waste a lot of their students’ time.
Anyone who ever attended a public school knows how many hours a day they wasted of the students’ time.
I am reminded of the meme with the teacher asking the kids what they learned while homeschooling.
“Don’t trust the government.”
“We need to refresh the tree of Liberty.”
“The government thinks they own us.”
In 2009 , NYC was one of the epicenters for the Swine Flu; particularly in the borough of Queens.
So it’s not like NYC did not have time between now and then to implement policies /procedures to help prepare for the next viral pandemic.
Of course, they did nothing at all, aside from selling off a few thousand ventilators.
So now with the Corona Virus, we have Cuomo basically begging the Federal Govt for all sorts of medical supplies and hospital beds, for which he has been hailed as being a competent leader in a time of crisis.
It’s OK to ask for help, but it’s not OK to be inadequately prepared.
Rest assured, when this corona virus is all said and done, Cuomo, et. al.. will once again abrogate their responsibilities to prepare for the next viral outbreak. After all, money needs to be spent to save the planet, as opposed to saving lives.
But hey, he can speak in complete sentences and can competently read a teleprompter, so get ready for presidential candidate Cuomo.
By the way, who thinks he got his political appointment at the Federal HUD because of his previous accomplishments? You know, like being the son of the former Gov. of NY, Mario Cuomo.
Cuomo and DiBlasio kept the NYC subways open to avoid economic destruction, and let millions be potentially exposed. In the rest of the country, Governors and Mayors accepted economic destruction to keep their citizens from exposure.
Which is right? I’m not sure, but the Democrats and the experts have all demanded we all do the latter.. except for NYC. That’s why NYC has 40% of the US death toll.
You know darn well they don’t/didn’t /won’t care.
Cappy:
Yes, the question was rhetorical.
Asian flu killed 116k Americans in 57-58. I was in jr. hi. at the time, on the football team. Best info we had was from the coach…eat more roughage. Virus is different from germs, bacteria, and parasites. About all you can do medically is relieve or support the body over the systems.
Nobody blamed Ike for what would today, as a population proportion, be about 211k dead.
Would the left care about the dead? When was the last time? Useful in rhetoric, yes. Care, as in the human sense? Last time was….?
Asian flu killed 116k Americans in 57-58. I was in jr. hi. at the time, on the football team. Best info we had was from the coach…eat more roughage. Virus is different from germs, bacteria, and parasites. About all you can do medically is relieve or support the body over the systems.
Nobody blamed Ike for what would today, as a population proportion, be about 211k dead.
Would the left care about the dead? When was the last time. Useful in rhetoric, yes. Care, as in the human sense? Last time was….?
This stuff almost becomes a self parody. Here is a Breitbart piece that has a direct quote from Gov. Cuomo today.
First Cuomo says he’s ignorant, then he says we all predicted this. When a Democrat says “Period,” be very skeptical. And Gov. Cuomo had already explained the motives behind these unfortunate events.
From Pollak again:
“On Monday, Cuomo blamed ‘money’ for being part of the reason nursing homes had not turned to the state or to other nursing homes to take care of coronavirus patients they could not handle.”
Texan99 on April 28, 2020 at 11:11 am said:
Anyone who ever attended a public school knows how many hours a day they wasted of the students’ time.
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Forget it, Jake. It’s a Union town.