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  1. I am wondering what will happen to the young people, under 30 who are living in the culture where there are no consequences for their actions, they have become the Post-Modern Metro Pirates, rape, loot, pillage and plunder, get caught and released and where will it end? Can a person brought up in those circumstance learn to be a cautious, law abiding, family person working responsibly for his or her personal future? There are a lot of mad Metro Pirates out there who, it seems, don’t have to answer to anyone and how will that work out? I don’t have any answers and barely know the questions.

  2. The Suzy Weiss (yes she is Bari’s sister) piece is something else. There were people seriously asking if this was parody or real.

  3. Those legislators who passed this bill, plus of course the Governor have now forfeited any claim they might make in disputing their complicity in the crimes they have enabled.

    Since legal redress of grievance is now impossible in Illinois, sooner or later, vigilante justice will arise.

    Until consequence for these individuals is personal, the insanity will continue.

  4. Let’s see what that young activist leftist says when the abstract notion of crime mugs him, beats the shit out of him, steals his phone and wallet and requires he spend some quiet time in the hospital.
    One can only hope

    Do I wish he gets mugged, severely beaten and sent off to recuperate in the hospital?
    You bet I do.

    Those who are in accord with his views and actually have the authority to implement the policy he espouses have no problem whatsoever freeing dangerous criminals that attack and severely injure or kill innocent people. There is not one word of remorse , not on iota of regret from people like this leftist POS activist.

    They are truly evil people. In pursuit of their dangerous ideology, they are literally sentencing innocent people to death; killed by criminals who face zero punishment for their crimes.

    On second thought, let’s hope all those near and dear to this leftist also wind up in the hospital; victims of abstract crime.
    I wonder how often he or his loved ones must be victimized by this abstraction before he determines that this abstraction results in very real consequences. .

  5. Talk about redefining reality. Letitia James, the NY DA, claimed Trump overstated the value of his property to obtain cheaper insurance. I always thought that if your real estate was more expensive, you paid more for insurance because the insurance company was taking the risk of a higher loss. Is this DA for real? Where does foolishness turn into fraud?

  6. what is really the purpose, the stated reason can’t be the one, so one has to conclude that demolition of the country, is the point,

  7. New York passed bail reform laws much like this at the beginning of 2020, and it has been an unmitigated disaster — though you won’t get most liberals to agree with you on that. Did you hear about the guy who recently got into a dispute with another customer in a McDonald’s in NYC, pulled out an ax, brandished it at patrons and smashed up walls, counters and tables? He was arrested and charged — and immediately released without bail. There are countless examples of criminals getting released for serious offenses, often violent crimes, and immediately offending again. And of course you’ve seen the statistics on the escalating crime rates in NY.

    One confounding element is that New York does not permit judges to consider public safety in setting bail. In other words, the likelihood that a violent offender might hurt somebody again (like a madman who just yesterday threatened a bunch of McDonald’s customers with an ax) simply does not count, at all, in deciding whether or how high to set bail. Even before bail reform, NY judges could only consider factors like flight risk in deciding bail. That limitation is still in place now, along with new laws that prohibit setting any bail at all for most offenses and limit it drastically for the few where bail can be set. It’s the only state in the union, I believe, that handcuffs judges in this way. Unique New York, indeed.

    Now it must be said most people probably agree that New York’s bail laws did need some kind of reform, if not as drastic as this. It’s true that many very poor defendants, often juveniles, were being held before trial for ridiculously long periods on minor offenses because they could not afford their bail, while wealthier people walked on much greater offenses. One major force that fueled bail reform (along with a number of needed changes in New York’s juvenile delinquency laws) was the suicide of Kalief Browder after he was released from Riker’s Island jail in NYC. He had been arrested at age 16 on suspicion of stealing a backpack and then held for THREE YEARS without trial, apparently long after the prosecution knew they had no case against him. Of course he suffered what you’d expect a teenaged boy to suffer when locked up for years with a bunch of violent adult criminals. There are too many horrendous details to list but it was an indefensible nightmare (NYC later paid $3.3 million to his family). And as you can imagine, his story — and too many others like it, if not quite so dreadful — made it hard for conservative legislators to argue back against progressives’ claims that NY’s bail laws needed drastic reform.

    But the real progressive goal, of course, wasn’t just to reform bail but to end “mass incarceration.” So they didn’t stop with bail reform — they also reformed criminal pretrial discovery rules in ways that make prosecution far more difficult. As just one example, the prosecution must turn over the names of all witnesses to the defense before trial — can you imagine how that works out in a gang-related case, or a drug trial? Predictably, nobody wants to testify now. In my own county, criminal prosecutions — not to mention arrests — have pretty much ground to a halt. In the next county over, the DA has announced that he won’t run again because the new laws mean he can’t do the job he was elected to do. He says the criminals are now running the system.

    So there we are. You’d think other states might watch and learn. But apparently, in Illinois at least, they’ve learned all the wrong things.

  8. Mrs. Whatsit,
    New York went from one extreme to the other.
    The Constitution requires a speedy trial.
    So the smart response should have been to create more courts to handle cases quicker, and/ or make the other courts more efficient and examine the defendants previous criminal history when setting bail – first timer verses repeat offenders.
    And they should have gone to lower cash bails for poor people, not “ no cash bail”.
    Now look how long the Jan 6 defendants are being held without trial. The system is messed up, but the democrats do not know how to fix it.

  9. It is like we are stuck between extremes.
    The crazy left on one side and people on the right , like Sean Hannity, and Trump who support “ Stop and Frisk”.
    “Stop and Frisk “ was a horrendous Supreme Court ruling that undermined both the Second and Fourth Amendments.
    If we would stick to Constitutional principles we would be better off.

  10. In the middle of florida they had a soros da ayala who was agregiously bad she was replaced by another one who was lower profile but still dangerous

    Ayala is running as the democratic candidate for atty general!

  11. Miguel,
    “ Why”, because I have read the second and fourth Amendments.

    And I am a southern conservative, not a New York “ conservative” like Trump or Hannity. I have been around guns my entire life. My first weapon to shoot, besides a BB gun, was a 22 rifle that my grandfather purchased when he was young. My dad hunted with that rifle when he was a kid. When it came time to graduate to shotguns, as a pre teen boy, my dad became visibly angry when I expressed fear of the “ kick” or recoil from a shotgun. He made me shoot that shotgun. Gun culture is deeply ingrained in both my maternal and paternal lines. Every boy is taught how to use firearms from an early age.

    I can only imagine how much animosity is created by cops throwing people up against the wall and searching them for weapons.
    I am a white guy. The only time cops ever threatened to arrest me it was two black cops. More than two decades ago I was in a black neighborhood , perhaps naively in my zealous youth, trying to help a black girl that was a drug addict. Black cops threatened to arrest me for being at the wrong house. I can sympathize with blacks thrown up against a wall in NYC. To this day , I am always concerned about being near black cops.
    I suspect “ Stop and Frisk” helped to create some of the “ social justice” narrative.

  12. I said “ pre teen”. I am not sure of the exact age, and it was only a 410 bore shotgun. Dad did not want me to be afraid to move to the next level.

  13. In these cities and counties with lenient judges and prosecutors, the police complain that they’re arresting the same group of people over and over. The cops know who the habitual criminals are. When you get most of them off the streets, things calm down rathe markedly.

    Mayors, county executives, and governors have to BACKTHE BLUE. That means warning the criminals in your jurisdiction that resisting arrest is a crime, and it could get you injured or killed because the police are authorized to use whatever force is necessary to make the arrest. Further letting criminals know that they will receive speedy and firm justice. When these Democrat officials fail to back the police, it destroys morale and signals the crooks that they can get away with murder.

    Many cities, Seattle is one, are now unable to recruit the policemen they need to effectively enforce the law. Being a cop is a dangerous, difficult job. Why would anyone choose it if the officials responsible for leading the law and older effort aren’t on their side?

    Again, the Gods of the Copybook Headings will have their say.

  14. Were this article half as long, I would have assumed it was from the Bee. It’s just too deliciously ironic not to assume it’s parody.

    “Crime is an abstract term that means nothing in a lot of ways,” said Sky. “The construct of crime has been so socially constructed to target black and poor people.”

    …I mean….come on! The best satirist couldn’t write a more perfect snippet.

  15. Marxists unleashing their army onto the public
    Isn’t it ironic every Leftist acronym is implied to be the opposite it really is?

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