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  1. Something I was wondering about, it’s my understanding that you can’t sue a sitting president when they’re acting within their executive power. However, Biden wasn’t yet president when he (slightly indirectly) declared Rittenhouse to be a “white supremacist”.

  2. Given the bile currently being churned out by the usual suspects, I hope Rittenhouse sues all the blue check marks bloviaters and donates a portion of his winnings to first responders, police, firefighters… and the NRA.

  3. Nonapod:

    Biden defamed Rittenhouse when Biden was still just a candidate (although I believe he was already the Democrat nominee at the time). It was done on his Twitter feed. My guess is that although Biden may perhaps have approved it, he probably didn’t compose it. But I don’t think that would be a defense. Defamation is a civil action and I believe it would therefore be allowed, as it was allowed against Bill Clinton way back when.

  4. Bleak House is mainly about equity and not law, but there is a criminal trial at one point, where Dickens has this comment:

    “…It won’t do to have truth and justice on his side; he must have law and lawyers,” exclaims the old girl, apparently persuaded that the latter form a separate establishment and have dissolved partnership with truth and justice for ever and a day.

  5. Kate on November 19, 2021 at 3:30 pm said:
    I hope he will in fact talk to Nick Sandmann.

    I hope he does, too. And I also hope he talks to Nick Sandmann’s lawyer.

  6. We should thank the bloggers who kept the truth and didn’t cave in to the Propaganda Ministry lies.
    Neo was just 1 of a not many who did a valuable service keeping information real.
    Thanks

  7. I wept hearing his acquittal-this along with McAuliffe losing are the best news of the year. But I don’t think the left will ever let him be. I hope he sues the f*ck out of the ‘journOlist’. I also feel for the jurors and judge. The left is going to make their lives horrible too.

  8. Did you all see that when Biden was asked about his medical exam and colonoscopy, he said it went great and he is looking forward to celebrating his 58th birthday.

    I’m so glad Kyle was found not guilty, and I hope he gets his life back soon.

  9. Neo: No surprise, I cannot improve on your comment. But I will heartily echo it. Let’s hope this is the end of a very bad chapter, and the beginning of a better one.

  10. Wonderful news!!

    I think those jurors deserve a hell of a lot of credit. Although the verdict should have been obvious, it took great courage to do the right thing nonetheless.

  11. This verdict was a very pleasant surprise. I hope Rittenhouse sues his slanderers into bankruptcy.

  12. To Gavin Newsome (via physicsguy’s link), I respond;
    “Last year, you decided people could break the law, carry around incendiary devices, burn and loot business, and get away with it. Government created the lawlessness that destroyed cities and lives across the United States.

    Today, America sent a message that corrects the misconception provided by government leaders. The Constitution begins “We the People”.”

  13. And in an official White House statement,President Joe Brandon said he is angry about the verdict.

    h/t ace.mu.nu.

    Incitement in the subtext? Wouldn’t want to encourage violence, that would be inconceivable.

  14. Democrat scum like Nadler are already talking about siccing the DoJ on Rittenhouse. Republicans need to counter that by calling for disbarment (at least) of Binger.

  15. Like Boatbuilder and others, I applaud the jury. Their decision required considerable courage. Even if they are not physically threatened, and that is not a certainty, I am sure they will experience nasty push back from a variety of sources; including in many cases, family.

    The post trial statement by the Governor of Wisconsin was disgusting, nigh on to infuriating. I used to visit Wisconsin periodically on work related trips. I don’t believe that the people I saw thirty years ago in cities such as Appleton or Green Bay would have elected such an Ass; nor would they have tolerated such tainted Prosecutors.

  16. President Joe Brandon said he is angry about the verdict.

    Meaning the docs who performed his colonoscopy this a.m. failed to remove his head from his rectum.

  17. Nope, it wasn’t the fault of the proctologist this morning, the entire W. H. staff and whoever wrote Brandon’s statement are completely impacted. It will take more than a regiment of proctologists to fix that problem.

  18. While I am happy beyond words about the outcome, I cannot help but maintain perspective.

    Rittenhouse should never have been charged.

    If charged, the charges should have been dropped very quickly, once it became clear this was, unambiguously perfect self defense.

    Taking this matter to trial was monstrous prosecutoral misconduct, in and of itself.

    The behavior of the prosecutors at trial amplified this misconduct fifty-fold. They deserve punishment akin to Mike Nifong. But that’s unlikely. Nifong’s behavior occurred a decade and a half ago; America has indeed been “fundamentally transformed” in that time.*

    Judge Schroeder and the twelve jurors performed their duties well. Not perfectly, but well. Alas, this is now the exception rather than the rule in hyperpoliticized and sensationalized criminal trials.

    While, on a very important level, justice was served, on another level, it was not. Branca outlined everything Rittenhouse had to go through over the last 14 months. And it’s far from over; already we see bloated blowhard Jerry Nadler demanding DOJ look into federal charges. I wondered about the same issue this morning. With Merrick Garland…that is depressingly possible. I also imagine Slo Joe will ramble some barely coherent (but thoroughly obnoxious) denunciation in the near future.

    Beyond any potential further criminal charges, Rittenhouse is effectively canceled. I imagine he will struggle in any educational and career endeavors for many years, and be subject to incessant harassment, as well as credible threats to his safety.

    Again, I am not trying to minimize the verdict; it was very, very good news. But, everything that has happened and will likely happen regarding this cases only demonstrates how perilously weak our overall civil society is.

    *It is easy to forget that in the Duke case, ultimate the Democratic state attorney general took over from Nifong and put an end to the farce. That man, Roy Cooper, is now the Governor of North Carolina. Can anyone envision a Democrat attorney general doing the same in this day and age?

  19. ” it’s far from over; already we see bloated blowhard Jerry Nadler demanding DOJ look into federal charges. “ Ackler

    Nadler is one of the least sharp pencils in the House’s box. If the DOJ moves to persecute Rittenhouse it will have even further unintended consequences for the democrat party.

    As, an even larger percentage of the public will then view the Feds and Garland as a modern day “Javert” pursuing Rittenhouse’s “Jean Valjean”.

  20. Ackler:

    I will go out on a limb and say that there are unlikely to be any federal charges. The case doesn’t fit. Its weaknesses have also been fully exposed. No, I think the left will just continue to use it as a talking point and go on to the next set of false accusations they can make about their next disignated victim.

  21. Credit to Ricky Schroder and everyone who contributed to the two million dollar bond that kept Kyle out of jail. It was money well spent, that should never
    have been demanded.

    Credit to mom for raising her son right.

    Credit to Kyle for an upstanding moral character, courage, and action.

  22. @Ackler:

    Any idea what kind of surname Nifong is?

    It may come as a surprise, but one of my pet hobbies is collecting ethnic stereotypes and plonking people in pigeonholes. It deeply bugs me that I don’t have a handle on whence Nifongs emerged from the primal ooze.

    Anyone?

  23. It is passing strange that the left is outraged about Kyle Ritenhousand the rise of vigalantism (sic). As they were in 2020 when an off duty US Army NCO killed a young USAF vetran who pointed a loaded AK at his car window and demanded that the NCO stop. It happenned in Austin at a BLM protest.

    Yet the left did not decry the vigalentism (sic!) when a leftist killed a Trump supporter in Denver, or Portland, or when the Seattle CHAZites killed two (?) black male teens in the Summer of Durkin (2020).

    Strange thing, selective outrage. Maybe Neo can post about it?

  24. I’ve just figured out why the Chauvin thing bothers me so much more despite Chauvin being a hard-bitten city cop and far less sympathetic a character than fresh-faced young Rittenhouse.

    It’s the difference between thumpety-bumpety Macauley or Kipling poetasting vs. Sophocles.

    Rittenhouse exercised free will on the day and knowingly went off to be Horatius on the Bridge. Luckily the Jury fished him out of the Tiber.

    Chauvin is Oedipus: His entire life he was being unknowingly dragged by creeping Fate towards Destruction and Horror. He *was* just doing his job on the day it all came tumbling down.

  25. You know the execrable Garland will come up with some Federal charges no matter how baseless.

  26. Zaphod,

    Without modern day Horatius on the Bridge types, its just a matter of time before the barbarians get to you.

    Sheep haven’t a snowball’s chance in hell against the wolves… without the sheepdogs.

  27. @GB:

    Agreed. More heroism please and all at once! So as not to be defeated in detail.

    But what do you think about my point that there’s more creeping horror in what happened to Chauvin for just going to work on any given day? Given what you just posted contra Leland elsewhere, I figure we’d agree on that, too.

  28. Zaphod,

    “All at once” implies widespread armed rebellion. Which IMO is still premature. We do appear to agree about Chauvin.

  29. I will go out on a limb and say that there are unlikely to be any federal charges.

    Since Kyle was and is a private citizen and not co-ordinating with any police officers, hard to see how you gin up a federal civil rights charge. Eric Holder’s DoJ elected not to pursue one contra Darren Wilson, who actually was a cop. Observing what Merrick Garland’s DoJ does will give us a measure of how much the interamural culture of the DoJ has decayed in seven years.

  30. No, I think the left will just continue to use it as a talking point

    I did just see Ida Bae Wells (aka Nikole Hannah-Jones) claim Trayvon Martin was acting in ‘self-defense’ contra George Zimmerman. Does she know nothing of what happened, or is she pretending, or does she fancy Martin had a franchise to walk 75 yards down an alley and attack the loitering Zimmerman in ‘self-defense’? Any guesses? (Keep in mind in re factual matters that this woman landed her first job as a reporter around about 1998).

  31. Any idea what kind of surname Nifong is?

    Michael Nifong the prosecutor is the great-great-great grandson of one Adam Nifong, who was born in North Carolina in 1786. Adam Nifong’s father was George Nifong, who died in North Carolina in 1797. People with that name all seem to be descended from that one North Carolina family. (Most associated with Davidson County). George Nifong was married to a woman whose family name is rendered ‘Clodfelter’ or ‘Glattfelter’. That’s a Pennsylvania Dutch name. Colonial era Germans tended to hail from the periphery of the Germanophone world (Alsace, Switzerland) and belong to anabaptist sects and other oddments. As it happens, there was a settlement of Moravian Brethren in Davidson County, NC. Guessing a very oddball German name.

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