I think us neophytes* need to start a GoFundMe for a weekend retreat at a spa for neo, Ozzy Man and Barry Gibb!
*Fans of neo and us frequent commenters at neo.com.
There is so much going on with COVID in real time that we don’t spend much time thinking about long term effects (other than most of us trying to convince our less sane peers that it is a virus that cannot be eliminated from Earth and we humans will have to learn to co-exist with it) of the pandemic.
In the past few days I’ve seen a few news items centered on “long COVID.” I have no doubt this will be the next “chronic fatigue syndrome.” We will have many people who had a COVID diagnosis claiming to suffer from many difficult to diagnose symptoms which will wreak havoc on the work force. Are such people eligible for short and long term disability? Special accommodations for school and test taking? Law suits?
I’m not critiquing the existence of Long COVID. I believe there are people that are suffering long term symptoms and effects from how the virus impacted their bodies and health. But, like chronic fatigue syndrome, there are many reasons folks don’t always feel healthy, or well. With the immense amount of discussion on COVID in the past 22 months it will almost certainly have a huge, psychological impact on many, some of whom will imagine it is the cause of almost any physical problem they perceive.
RFT–
You might be interested in a BMJ article on long COVID– I’m linking to the full text, which is available to any reader. Sample: “The multidimensional, episodic and unpredictable health consequences of Long COVID resembles episodic disability, a concept derived from the context of HIV, where health challenges can fluctuate daily or over longer periods of time.”
Love the pictures.
My daughter had a pair (sisters) of African Pygmy goats. What a clown show they were. Then they grew up.
Sadly, one of them has gone to goaty heaven, whatever form that may take.
As a kid, I knew goats on my Uncle’s farm; and one of my friends had a goat that pulled a little wagon. Goats have minds of their own, although they sometimes seem to have misplaced them.
Here in SoCal people rent out herds of goats to clear brush from hillsides in suburban areas. They do a great job of it. They help prevent brush fires and are a “scenic attraction” as well.
I am beginning to think this country needs less sheep and more goats.
PA+Cat and Barry Meislin,
I agree with you both. There are certainly people who have lingering and, for some, very serious, health issues brought on by COVID. And COVID is in the zeitgeist. Just as a news report of UFOs will result in more UFO sightings, Long COVID is in the news and folks will attach it to any number of perceived ailments.
In my own case I actually felt better after recovering from COVID than I had prior. My guess is it’s due to losing nearly 15 pounds, but I also know people who still do not feel 100% themselves months after having the illness. Are they completely recovered, but suffering from other ailments? Depressed because they had the disease? Suffering true, lingering, physical affects?
It’s “COVID,” “COVID,” “COVID” 24/7. Many people are obsessed with it. This has to impact some folks psychologically.
We will see a lot of people on permanent disability due to Long COVID.
I know Operation Warp Speed has protections from law suits for Pfizer, Moderna and J & J, but I give U.S. lawyers tremendous credit where potential revenue is involved. Some enterprising personal injury attorneys will figure out a way to profit from Long COVID.
I scanned through a couple week’s worth of covid article links at Epoch Times recently. One that caught my eye was the CEO of Pfizer saying that their existing vax formulation was just fine for now and for the booster shots they are delivering. But he figured that by mid 2022 they would have to re-engineer it in order to keep up with the mutations.
The problem with that thinking IMO, is that while the current vax formulation is helpful, it doesn’t really reduce the spread of covid very much. A reformulated version could perhaps greatly slow the spread right now. And the amount of mutation is related to the amount of infected people.
This mid 2022 date for an improved vaccine also suggests that the 2022 election will be impacted with mail-in ballots again.
That’s a link to an interview of economist Casey Mulligan on the Reconciliation Bill. The bill’s contents have gone unreported by the mainstream media. Mulligan is the only person, that I’ve heard of, who has read the entire bill, which is 2645 pages long.
This interview barely scratches the surface of the bill, but I’d highly recommend it to anyone interested in the largest expansion of the welfare state since Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs. The bill also includes many disincentives to work, and to finding a better job with better pay. The class of federal government dependents will thus balloon. Guess how they’ll vote.
“…that while the current vax formulation is helpful, it doesn’t really reduce the spread of covid very much…”
And maybe just maybe (with the elections coming up—one assumes, still—in 2022 and 2024, and 2026 and 2028, etc.) that that’s precisely the goal: to keep that COVID going…
Since as you say, “…impacted with mail-in ballots again.” And again, and again, and again…
Now and forever more. Because with mail-in ballots, they can’t lose, can they?….
Barry Meislin,
Mail in voting can relatively simply be made as secure as in person.
Do I have any confidence our politicians and legislatures will do this? Well, some red states will enact sound measures, but blue? purple? Nah.
Mail in voting can relatively simply be made as secure as in person.
Used to live three tower blocks up from this pig’s breakfast.
Bamboo scaffolding is generally very good and can withstand typhoons better than steel scaffolding. You just need ample supply of bamboo, a gazillion heavy duty zip ties and a contractor who knows what he’s about.
Torrential rain and heavy winds will sometimes have their way, though and someone’s going to be getting in big trouble for this.
@ Cornflour > “The bill also includes many disincentives to work, and to finding a better job with better pay. The class of federal government dependents will thus balloon. Guess how they’ll vote.”
I recommend this “companion” post that Geoffrey linked on the VDH thread.
Biden’s bill is just riding the wave.
“How much is that goat-ie in the window?”
So expressive.
My mother’s favorite books as a child were the “Billy Whiskers” series about a billy goat who had a decidedly idiosyncratic view of life, and did things his own way with humorous results.
The closest popular analog today would be Mal Reynolds of “Firefly” – Billy’s motto was clearly “I aim to misbehave.”
Rather interesting article about how the NBA is absolutely racist.
…AND why it actually IS important to be able to write grammatically (which probably means that those—teachers? educational institutions?—who insist that it isn’t are not delivering for their students(!)…and are ALSO absolutely racist).
“seek and ye shall find”
The wonders of the internet bestows amazing things you never knew existed.
“I aim to misbehave” generated these.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12435331/1/I-Aim-to-Misbehave
“Harry Potter escapes from Earth-That-Was via magitech, but goes missing. When he is finally unfrozen in the 26th century, he faces a new oppressive regime in the form of the Alliance while he tries to find the lost magical community in the Verse. Epilogue-compliant, No Power in the ‘Verse-compliant.”
In re mandatory Covid vaccinations. Mixed replies to the question, but ranging from “none” to “a couple or three, maybe.” Some strong consensus on the wokeness of the officers.
Thanks for recommending Victor Davis Hanson’s article about the blue city tax eaters. In Hansonian terms, this is what I think is happening:
The reconciliation bill is set to expand the welfare state in ways not seen since “The Great Society” programs, but this time it’s being done in secret. Nobody’s talking about it. Victor Davis Hanson draws a portrait of urban parasites dependent on the Democratic Party. The current reconciliation bill, especially when combined with the pandemic-driven expansion of remote work and telecommuting, will infect suburban and rural ares with the same tax-eating parasitism that Victor Davis Hanson saw in blue cities, back in 2005.
Consequently, the national debt will explode, and much of the red countryside will turn blue.
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I think us neophytes* need to start a GoFundMe for a weekend retreat at a spa for neo, Ozzy Man and Barry Gibb!
*Fans of neo and us frequent commenters at neo.com.
There is so much going on with COVID in real time that we don’t spend much time thinking about long term effects (other than most of us trying to convince our less sane peers that it is a virus that cannot be eliminated from Earth and we humans will have to learn to co-exist with it) of the pandemic.
In the past few days I’ve seen a few news items centered on “long COVID.” I have no doubt this will be the next “chronic fatigue syndrome.” We will have many people who had a COVID diagnosis claiming to suffer from many difficult to diagnose symptoms which will wreak havoc on the work force. Are such people eligible for short and long term disability? Special accommodations for school and test taking? Law suits?
I’m not critiquing the existence of Long COVID. I believe there are people that are suffering long term symptoms and effects from how the virus impacted their bodies and health. But, like chronic fatigue syndrome, there are many reasons folks don’t always feel healthy, or well. With the immense amount of discussion on COVID in the past 22 months it will almost certainly have a huge, psychological impact on many, some of whom will imagine it is the cause of almost any physical problem they perceive.
RFT–
You might be interested in a BMJ article on long COVID– I’m linking to the full text, which is available to any reader. Sample: “The multidimensional, episodic and unpredictable health consequences of Long COVID resembles episodic disability, a concept derived from the context of HIV, where health challenges can fluctuate daily or over longer periods of time.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8460526/
My own take on long COVID is that it will turn out to be a largely psychogenic illness along the lines of chronic fatigue syndrome.
“…psychogenic illness…”
Perhaps; but I read—somewhere (I’ll have to look it up again)—where “long COVID” is characterized by symptoms such as excessive blood clotting, which are also reported to be side effects of certain vaccine varieties (Moderna, I believe, and J and J); e.g.:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-07/sweden-denmark-moderna-covid-vaccine-pause/100519714
…which is why reports such as these are unconscionable:
“Pfizer requests emergency authorization for children 5-11”
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/314641
Love the pictures.
My daughter had a pair (sisters) of African Pygmy goats. What a clown show they were. Then they grew up.
Sadly, one of them has gone to goaty heaven, whatever form that may take.
As a kid, I knew goats on my Uncle’s farm; and one of my friends had a goat that pulled a little wagon. Goats have minds of their own, although they sometimes seem to have misplaced them.
Here in SoCal people rent out herds of goats to clear brush from hillsides in suburban areas. They do a great job of it. They help prevent brush fires and are a “scenic attraction” as well.
I am beginning to think this country needs less sheep and more goats.
PA+Cat and Barry Meislin,
I agree with you both. There are certainly people who have lingering and, for some, very serious, health issues brought on by COVID. And COVID is in the zeitgeist. Just as a news report of UFOs will result in more UFO sightings, Long COVID is in the news and folks will attach it to any number of perceived ailments.
In my own case I actually felt better after recovering from COVID than I had prior. My guess is it’s due to losing nearly 15 pounds, but I also know people who still do not feel 100% themselves months after having the illness. Are they completely recovered, but suffering from other ailments? Depressed because they had the disease? Suffering true, lingering, physical affects?
It’s “COVID,” “COVID,” “COVID” 24/7. Many people are obsessed with it. This has to impact some folks psychologically.
We will see a lot of people on permanent disability due to Long COVID.
I know Operation Warp Speed has protections from law suits for Pfizer, Moderna and J & J, but I give U.S. lawyers tremendous credit where potential revenue is involved. Some enterprising personal injury attorneys will figure out a way to profit from Long COVID.
I scanned through a couple week’s worth of covid article links at Epoch Times recently. One that caught my eye was the CEO of Pfizer saying that their existing vax formulation was just fine for now and for the booster shots they are delivering. But he figured that by mid 2022 they would have to re-engineer it in order to keep up with the mutations.
The problem with that thinking IMO, is that while the current vax formulation is helpful, it doesn’t really reduce the spread of covid very much. A reformulated version could perhaps greatly slow the spread right now. And the amount of mutation is related to the amount of infected people.
This mid 2022 date for an improved vaccine also suggests that the 2022 election will be impacted with mail-in ballots again.
Oldflyer,
Also milk, cheese and meat.
Another open-thread comment.
https://www.hoover.org/research/grumpy-economist-whats-reconciliation-bill-conversation-casey-mulligan
That’s a link to an interview of economist Casey Mulligan on the Reconciliation Bill. The bill’s contents have gone unreported by the mainstream media. Mulligan is the only person, that I’ve heard of, who has read the entire bill, which is 2645 pages long.
This interview barely scratches the surface of the bill, but I’d highly recommend it to anyone interested in the largest expansion of the welfare state since Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs. The bill also includes many disincentives to work, and to finding a better job with better pay. The class of federal government dependents will thus balloon. Guess how they’ll vote.
“…that while the current vax formulation is helpful, it doesn’t really reduce the spread of covid very much…”
And maybe just maybe (with the elections coming up—one assumes, still—in 2022 and 2024, and 2026 and 2028, etc.) that that’s precisely the goal: to keep that COVID going…
Since as you say, “…impacted with mail-in ballots again.” And again, and again, and again…
Now and forever more. Because with mail-in ballots, they can’t lose, can they?….
Barry Meislin,
Mail in voting can relatively simply be made as secure as in person.
Do I have any confidence our politicians and legislatures will do this? Well, some red states will enact sound measures, but blue? purple? Nah.
Mail in voting can relatively simply be made as secure as in person.
https://alchetron.com/cdn/pugsley-addams-c3bce0b2-5a1d-4fc0-9965-651ccac23d3-resize-750.jpg
Used to live three tower blocks up from this pig’s breakfast.
Bamboo scaffolding is generally very good and can withstand typhoons better than steel scaffolding. You just need ample supply of bamboo, a gazillion heavy duty zip ties and a contractor who knows what he’s about.
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/scaffolding-on-the-outer-wall-of-beverly-hill-apartment-in-happy-valley-collapses/
Torrential rain and heavy winds will sometimes have their way, though and someone’s going to be getting in big trouble for this.
@ Cornflour > “The bill also includes many disincentives to work, and to finding a better job with better pay. The class of federal government dependents will thus balloon. Guess how they’ll vote.”
I recommend this “companion” post that Geoffrey linked on the VDH thread.
Biden’s bill is just riding the wave.
“There are no Blue states—only Blue cities, where tax eaters rule.”
https://www.city-journal.org/html/real-engine-blue-america-12848.html”
“Let’s go, Biden!”
“How much is that goat-ie in the window?”
So expressive.
My mother’s favorite books as a child were the “Billy Whiskers” series about a billy goat who had a decidedly idiosyncratic view of life, and did things his own way with humorous results.
The closest popular analog today would be Mal Reynolds of “Firefly” – Billy’s motto was clearly “I aim to misbehave.”
Rather interesting article about how the NBA is absolutely racist.
…AND why it actually IS important to be able to write grammatically (which probably means that those—teachers? educational institutions?—who insist that it isn’t are not delivering for their students(!)…and are ALSO absolutely racist).
…and of course, it’s in “The Daily Mail” (can one imagine it being on the cover of “Sports Illustrated”?)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10069407/Feds-indict-18-former-NBA-players-3-9million-healthcare-scheme.html
File under: Reparations!
“seek and ye shall find”
The wonders of the internet bestows amazing things you never knew existed.
“I aim to misbehave” generated these.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12435331/1/I-Aim-to-Misbehave
“Harry Potter escapes from Earth-That-Was via magitech, but goes missing. When he is finally unfrozen in the 26th century, he faces a new oppressive regime in the form of the Alliance while he tries to find the lost magical community in the Verse. Epilogue-compliant, No Power in the ‘Verse-compliant.”
But the really odd hit was this one:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/How-many-pilots-in-the-US-Military-are-going-to-walk-off-the-job-now-/5-2486268/?
In re mandatory Covid vaccinations. Mixed replies to the question, but ranging from “none” to “a couple or three, maybe.” Some strong consensus on the wokeness of the officers.
Anyone here living in Wisconsin?
Kosher-certified update on your newest neighbors:
http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2021/10/an-afghanistan-grows-in-wisconsin.html
I guess that vehicle just became a Dodge truck?
Ed Dutton interviewing semi-random Iranian Middle Class Guy:
https://odysee.com/@JollyHeretic:d/'Ali-the-Man-in-Iran'-Tells-Us-About-Life-in-a-Fundamentalist-Islamic-Society:2
Quite interesting.
Are goats really just sheep with an attitude?
AesopFan (and Geoffrey Britain):
Thanks for recommending Victor Davis Hanson’s article about the blue city tax eaters. In Hansonian terms, this is what I think is happening:
The reconciliation bill is set to expand the welfare state in ways not seen since “The Great Society” programs, but this time it’s being done in secret. Nobody’s talking about it. Victor Davis Hanson draws a portrait of urban parasites dependent on the Democratic Party. The current reconciliation bill, especially when combined with the pandemic-driven expansion of remote work and telecommuting, will infect suburban and rural ares with the same tax-eating parasitism that Victor Davis Hanson saw in blue cities, back in 2005.
Consequently, the national debt will explode, and much of the red countryside will turn blue.