Roundup
(1) There have been some negative studies recently on HCQ. This one’s more positive.
(2) More evidence for the lab origins of COVID – see this as well as this. Can we say “the science is settled” yet?
(3) The war on merit continues.
(4) CRT and the hyper-white Jew. [Hat tip: commenter “Barry Meislin.”]
“The presence of the double CGG sequence is strong evidence of gene splicing, and the absence of diversity in the public outbreak suggests gain-of-function acceleration,”
Earlier on in the pandemic, I read that experts said that the tell-tale signs of gene splicing were absent in the genetic code. Now we know that the genetic code sequence promulgated by the Chinese had some of these sequencing elements deleted.
We also heard many months ago that the vaccine researchers claimed that the good news is that the virus does not seem to be mutating much is terms of defeating a vaccine. Now we learn that this is one of the goals of gain-of-function research. The virus is pre-optimized for max. human transmission.
And yet …, Saint Anthony Fauci is today issuing a red alert about the newest mutation of SARS-CoV-2. Hmmm.
I’m always intrigued at how the ‘statements’ and ‘policies’ regarding the Holy Trinity of Diversity Inclusion Equity (DIE) are always virtually the same CRT jargon laced pablum. Whether coming from academia, the government or corporate America, one constantly reads virtually the same vacuous tripe filled with the same buzzwords.
It’s almost akin to reciting a creed; which is most apt as Wokism is a religion.
Regarding #3 specifically, all this is going to do is make people further seek out white men (as their doctors, as their pilots, etc.), knowing that the ONLY reason they were hired on was because they were the very top of their class. The mediocre ones will be passed over for the quota fill, so any white man that got hired is probably there because his abilities couldn’t be ignored. As for minorities and women – well, people will always wonder in the back of their heads, “Did they get this job because they were good, or because they had to fill a quota?”
I mean, I guess that could have been happening to a small extent since affirmative action was put in place. But now, I think it’s going to increase a ton.
Basically, it’s just gonna make people even more racist. Great job, everyone.
The hyper white Jew is a mashup of actual experiences. One thing the bits have in common is that nobody is dumb enough to actually believe them, but most are smart enough to keep their fool mouths shut. The structure, the power structure, brooks no questions. Facts and logic are themselves proof of racism and there’s no “micro” about them.
OTOH, if somebody is dumb enough to believe…then it’s not because of facts but because believing makes them feel good.
All of which is to say that resisting while in the grip of the power structure is not only futile but dangerous, possibly even to one’s physical safety.
The more independent one’s life can be of others’ approval, the more one may object and contest.
Which provides some considerations about career paths.
The three letter codes for arginine are CGG, CGT, CGC, and CGA. These are all synonyms in the DNA that cause a final arginine amino acid to enter the protein that is being made in the ribosome.
What they are saying is that a natural mutation should randomly cause one of the four above to follow the initial CGG in the virus. Why would a CGG just happen to be there?,…when the chance that randomly one of the other three would be much larger?
Mark Winston Griffith, the executive director of the Black Movement Center in Crown Heights, told The Forward that some black Americans see Judaism as “a form of almost hyper-whiteness.”
“hyper-whiteness” seems like a novel locution.
CRT proponents seem to spend a lot of time generating completely new terms and redefining old terms. Of course religious and political zealots are always creating new lexicons, phraseologies, jargons, and idioms. Obviously they do so in part to obfuscate their true intentions from the normies, but also to act as a sort of calling card or sign to other fellow travellers. It’s tedious and predictable.
As I have commented before blacks average 85 points on an IQ test and 5/6 make less than 100 points.That means that there aren’t enough clean, articulate, well educated blacks to go around. See this article.
http://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/2000skillsgaps.pdf
If a virus research lab existed in Anytown, USA , and the residents of that town began dropping dead due to a previously unknown illness, who would think that the lab had nothing to do with the sudden emergence of dead folks?
Let me guess; nobody.
Yet somehow, when it comes to the Wuhan / corona virus outbreak, there is controversy about the origin of the virus.
So, was it just an incredible coincidence that Covid just happened to originate in a place that has a virology research lab?
Let me speculate; there is a greater chance of a meteor smashing thru the roof of your residence than Covid originating, by chance, in Wuhan province with the virology research lab there having no part at all in the emergence of the virus.
The science is pretty clear at this point- COVID-19 is a lab creation by someone. Will we ever find that someone? I doubt it- that person is probably dead or in prison somewhere in China, and the Chinese will never admit this either.
Dnaxy, there are six codons for arginine.
With the elimination of testing and all the other crap trying to eliminate meritocracy, I just keep thinking of Harrison Bergeron.
Mark Winston Griffith, the executive director of the Black Movement Center in Crown Heights, told The Forward that some black Americans see Judaism as “a form of almost hyper-whiteness.”
So is the white Jewish Jesus is hyper white?
That means that there aren’t enough clean, articulate, well educated blacks to go around.
So is that why they had to find a non-African-American biracial born and raised in a WASP slaveowning family To pretend to be one?
One Who’s bloodline is closer to Heinrich Himmler, Robert Mueller and George Wallace and Karl Battenberg then to MLK and Ben Carson?
FWIW, many rheumatoid arthritis sufferers have been on extended regimes of HCQ, with little to no side effects. I’m on it myself.
The major serious effect is vision problems – but, it usually take 5 years or more of continuous use to show up.
I just retired from the medical field. One of the nice things (I thought) about being in private practice was that I would never have to submit to any of the “diversity, inclusion, etc.” BS to keep my job.
I have no intention of going back to work, but I had been planning on keeping up with my license in case I needed it for volunteer work or mission trips. No longer- I just received notice from the state licensing board that in order to keep my license, in addition to the normal continuing ed, I have to submit to 2 hours of “interactive implicit bias training”.
I don’t think so.
If memory serves, a number of poor third world nations have been using HCQ and their death rates are better than the 1st world western nations.
As for the vaccines; “Top Immunologist and ‘Pro-Vaccine’ Doctor Byram Bidle Issues Warning…”
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/top-immunologist-and-pro-vaccine-doctor-byram-bidle-issues-warning-the-spike-protein-in-covid-vaccine-can-kill-you/
A Peer reviewed study by the Japanese reveals that the spike protein in the vaccines is a toxin and is stored in the body. The negative effects and deaths reported by vaccine recipients closely match the known effects of a toxic protein.
Attack merit and you degrade competence. A mortal threat.
Attack “whiteness” and you disenfranchise those whites in “denial”. That article descibes the biggest load of excrement ever fostered upon a nation’s people.
Yancy Ward, You are quite right. There are six codons for arginine, I forgot the two starting with adenine.
From Wiki. “It is encoded by the codons CGU, CGC, CGA, CGG, AGA, and AGG.”
Also from another piece a week or so ago the CGG codon is used in humans and is used commonly in genetic manipulation but is not seen in any known viruses related to Covid-19.
And on another theme.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/455066/
Whiteness described as a malignant parasitic-like condition for which there is no permanent cure – yet.
I think, even early on, HCQ was promoted as therapy when the first symptoms of the Wu-flu appeared, not a cure in the late stages. That’s what the doctor for the orthodox community in upstate NY claimed that his cocktail of HCQ, zinc, and azithromicin did. It seems to have been quite successful, no deaths or complications in a community of 400+ people.
As a scientist, that seemed to me to be a very good test and should have been expanded into a much larger test immediately. True, it wasn’t the gold standard double blind test used in medicine, but since we were being told that We Were All Going To Die( TM, Climate Science) it was certainly worth exploring, especially with a benign, well tested drug, like HCQ.
A question.
Am I the only one who is being driven to distraction by the de-masculinization of male voices on media?
I did not realize how nauseating I had found it until I caught a few moment of some guy named Ben Domenech on Fox news.
I know nothing about him. I was not particularly interested in what he was saying. But for the first time in a long while … since Limbaugh perhaps – I was able to listen to a news media figure talk without getting a headache.
Then I began to think back; to Cronkite, Reasoner, Mudd, Huntley, and others from my childhood. I did not even necessarily like these guys but it did not drive me nuts just hearing their voices.
The average news reader nowadays sounds as if he or she is suppressing a panic attack and shouting through the nose.
I can put up with Tucker Carlson since his voice while relatively youthful is not whining, plaintive, or quizzical. But even that scatterbrain Sean Hannity grates – if more for his hyper non-linear sports talk delivery than for his adenoidal voice.
(Are we doing the open-thread thing here? Very well.)
DNW, you’re right, it’s a rather annoying affectation. Along with my own raging pet peeve of the non-elision of the word “the” with a vowel sound following – oh, how I’ve come to hate that one – it seems to be a definite generational marker. I’m a bit reluctant to come down very hard on the dudes who use the type of voice you describe, since I’m a small fellow myself and my speaking voice is not particularly pleasing to the ear; but if I could do more about it, I would. Part of it must be training/acclimation, though.
Chris B.
I am no doctor and am self employed. As such I can avoid all this sensitivity training. I am wondering though, as a total stranger, if you could do the 2 hours of interactive sensitivity training and bring up during that course exactly why you are doing it- so you can volunteer and do mission trips! Surely you have so much to offer ! I wish I could afford to do a stint on Mercy Ships ! Of course my skill set would be somewhere between deck swabber and assistant mechanic! I know a thing or two about engines and mechanical things, but never worked on a ship. Helped pull a few Abrams Tank engines out of the hull for the trained Tank mechanics to work on back in the National Guard….As a doctor you have a skill set that applies worldwide as long as you have the proper license.
@DNW:
Google up Gerard vdL’s Voice of the Neuter over at American Digest.
In my dreams I go about with a flamethrower incinerating up-talkers and perpetrators of Vocal Fry. Male or Female, it matters not.
CRT: Hyper-Solipsists Most Over-Represented in the Ivies Affected Most.
Unlike your garden variety unsophisticated Nasty Man, I think it’s OK to let Jews decide whether they’re White or not. But once they’ve decided, they have to stick with their choice and can’t flip-flop as it suits.
Having lived a long time as an expat, I’m all too aware just how personally convenient it is to play the Westerner or the Au Fait Local or the Smooth Cosmopolitan, depending on what suits in the moment. It’s a nice handy trick, but eventually one hopefully wakes up and realises that it’s not good for one’s character development and better to nail colours to the mast.
“””Mark Winston Griffith, the executive director of the Black Movement Center in Crown Heights, told The Forward that some black Americans see Judaism as “a form of almost hyper-whiteness.” “””
That’s hardly an advertisement for Black Intelligence or Discernment given that if anything, the Jews of Crown Heights don’t exactly give off the whole Mom, Apple Pie, let alone Mint Juleps and Grits vibe.
Chabad >> Blacks. I don’t mind people who despise me as Cattle in a kind of disinterested manner. That’s cool.. we can still do business, rub along,and the feeling can, after all, be mutual. I do mind Blacks who are unpredictable, illogical, and prone to extreme physical and sexual violence.
Yeah, I had forgotten that it – or one near to it – was a phenomenon discussed more than a dozen years ago.
https://americandigest.org/mt-archives/006007.php
Neo has had, I believe, a number of posts on “valley speak”, on the emergence of the verbal uptick phenomenon, and on the rise of pajama boys in all their permutations.
Probably the best thing would be if the electricity would go out for a month or so planet wide. Preferably in cool weather.
That way the corpses of the sensitive would desiccate somewhat before hot weather arrived.
Philip Sells on June 9, 2021 at 9:10 pm said:
Sure, why not.
What is alarming, is that it may not be an affectation; but rather indicative of something deeper.
Birth control effluent in the water supply or something.
Try taking a breath before you speak. Most of us are operating from a tension preload position before we say anything. Compare your own voice in the morning with that of 5 hours later.
Yeah, sure. Training, self-awareness, some deliberation. I think in the early days of media, i.e., the first half of the 20th Century, there was a certain amount of voice training undergone by at least some media personalities. Reference to it is common in old films and books.
The advent of the motion picture “talkie” is reputed to have spelled the doom of a number of screen figures with nasally or comically pitched voices. Though I have read that this effect has been overstated.
And of course politicians were famous, or infamous depending on your take, for attending to the technical aspects of public speaking.
My impression is that sports broadcasting was something of an exception to that, and that excitable delivery was thought to have an entertainment enhancing value.
Somehow when a moron talks fast and loudly, I don’t find it any more tolerable or impressive than listening to him otherwise.
Adding to the Link Lists –
This for #4 because of the CRT connection:
Pushback against posh private schools – several recent posts by NY Post.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/09/columbia-professor-says-parents-should-pull-kids-out-of-nj-school/
The prof is John McWhorter.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/07/billboards-outside-nyc-schools-diversity-not-indoctrination/
Brilliant, although it may not have any immediate effect. At least it lets other parents know they are not alone. Also: these parents have money because they have jobs that require a certain amount of intellectual savvy. Far more than educators and administrators these days. Probably several lawyers.
They aren’t paying their good money to have their kids get a crummy education.
https://nypost.com/2021/06/08/teacher-at-nj-prep-school-quits-over-divisive-ideology/
Another in a promising line of teachers speaking up.
Adding to the Link Lists –
This for #2 (lab leak hypothesis), although I think it was mentioned by someone else on an earlier comment thread:
https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/daszak-reveals-chinese-colleagues-manipulating-coronaviruses/
Add this to the lab leak – via a commenter at LI on another Covid post.
Includes link to the report that was the subject of the video.
https://rairfoundation.com/dutch-leader-stuns-parliament-exposes-globalist-covid-obedience-training-plot-video/
“Dutch leader Thierry Baudet called out a prophetic pandemic scenario from a 2010 Rockefeller Foundation Report that mirrors many tyrannical moves from governments playing out today on a global scale.”
One thing I have not yet seen explained is WHY the US lifted its ban on gain-of-function, and why no one in the Trump administration knew about that move and recognized its implications.
Or rather, I know why – no one told them; but are there no slightly-less-partisan members of the medical community who were concerned enough to blow the whistle?
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2017/12/feds-lift-gain-function-research-pause-offer-guidance
And along those lines – those 3000 or more emails of Fauci’s that reveal his duplicity all had senders and receivers, and sometimes cc’s – none of them had the integrity to tell anyone that the Face of the Pandemic Science was lying his head off in public and in private?
Since this is a quasi-open-thread, I’ll throw these in for some more information on the continued oppression f the Palestinians-of-a-thousand-faces oby the white-adjacent Jews (never mind that a lot of Middle Eastern and African people are Jewish; they don’t count, according to that riveting essay Barry found).
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/06/un-agency-admits-hamas-had-attack-tunnel-under-gaza-schoolyard-bombed-by-israel/
“UNRWA condemns the existence and potential use by Palestinian armed groups of such tunnels underneath its schools in the strongest possible terms. It is unacceptable that students and staff be placed at risk in such a way.”
Hard to deny after the precision bombing revealed it (without harming the buildings or any students). Their protest is pure gaslighting; they’ve known for years that’s what Hamas does, and have colluded.
An aside from a commenter on that post, because it’s entertaining and kind of Bee-ish. Bonus points if you can identify the relevance of the * note.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/06/idf-hamas-was-using-gaza-tower-that-housed-ap-to-jam-iron-dome/
Strange that the vaunted reportorial denizens of the Associated Press offices never figured that’s what their neighbors were doing.
Regarding HCQ+, what Paul (and others) said.
There were significant testimonies by epidemiologists regarding its proven efficacy and unabashedly in favor of its use.
Objections to it—along with the disgusting ridicule evoked (including Fauci’s fatuous “anecdotal” remark and those who insisted that double-blind studies were required)—were for PURELY political reasons, such that causing wide-spread death, social despair and economic chaos were seen as justified in the service of eliminating Trump (as was, it goes without saying, the massive election fraud, of which the COVID campaign was an intimate component).
The Democrats believe, rightly or wrongly, that Fauci went that extra mile for THEM, so that they could successfully achieve their “sacred duty” to the country (though it is turning out that he, all along, had his own backside to cover); hence they will NEVER throw him under the bus.
(So they say, at least).
Chabad >> Blacks. I don’t mind people who despise me as Cattle in a kind of disinterested manner.
I’ve spent over six decades in the Jewish community, and currently live in a neighborhood that’s overwhelmingly orthodox. I went to a Hebrew day school for K-9. I’ve worked for a non-profit Jewish educational organization. My children attended orthodox schools for K-12. A number of personal friends are orthodox rabbis, including some in the Chabad organization.
I’ve never, not even once, heard a rabbi, or any orthodox Jew for the matter, compare goyim to cattle. My grandsons attend a mainstream orthodox yeshiva. Both of their grandmothers are converts to Judaism, and one of their grandfathers has a single Jewish grandparent. I think the math works out to them being 34% Jewish by DNA. Nobody’s yet suggested that their DNA is 66% bovine.
“…they have colluded…”
Well, yes; though in contrast to “collusion” (which may impart some negative overtones), they no doubt see themselves (along with many other Media orgs and anti-Israel NGOs) as part of the glorious “resistance” doing their humble best to support Hamas (and the general Palestinian) “resistance”—while working for all humanity to improve, and perfect, the world by ridding it of all Colonialists, Opressors, Occupiers Racists, Capitalists, Zionists, etc.
Heck, the Democratic Party continues to view itself as the “resistance.”
(Which means that lying for “the cause”—as they wish to define it—is an entirely moral imperative.
Viva the Narrative!!
The “resistance” (cont.):
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/yet-another-media-tale-trump-tear
…and…
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/hunter-biden-n-word-daily-mail-president/
Actually, it’s never-ending.
@JAM:
I’m glad to hear it.
Perhaps it’s a Sephardi thing then?
https://www.jta.org/2010/10/18/israel/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-jews-exist-to-serve-jews
I could rather quickly dredge up examples from the USA of some of Haredim queueing up for bus trips off to disport themselves blame-free with prostitutes living outside their ethno-religious enclaves because non-Jews “Don’t count”.
I am aware that a quick google produces a number of quotes from the Talmud that are less than flattering to non-Jews. Presumably one might argue that these are currently in abeyance or have somehow been superseded?
I hope it is clear that I don’t think it’s a bad thing to be Out-grouped by an In-group. And I don’t think that this implies necessarily violence or extreme discord. It’s not a bad thing to know how one stands and I’ve observed in other non-Jewish contexts in Asia where this works out OK for all concerned most of the time. I think it’s quite fine… Predictability in social interactions is desirable and I’d rather be a semi-visible tolerated outsider (as long as I didn’t stir up trouble) rather than a random victim of randomly unpredictable Blacks who might be smiling today and mugging me tomorrow.
Yes, a matter of some concern. And embarrassment.
Though it might just be—I hope it is—merely a manifestation of that vaunted Iraqi sense of humor (which school of humor asserts that for humor to be acceptable it must not be at all humorous).
Or it could be that Rabbi Ovadiah (Yosef) had a bit of a chip on his shoulder, being a renowned scholar originally from Baghdad and who thus may not have been given the honor due him by the ultra-orthodox Ashkenazi rabbis, not that there should be a pecking order, of course…but… (Long and short of it: Beware of religious leaders with chips on their shoulders?)
As far as fear of coercion (or retribution?) is considered, I’m pretty sure that the only thing to be moderately worried about is that people like him would take you home and force-feed you kubeh (and other delicacies), studiously scoffing at any protestations of “No thanks, I’m stuffed”.
Indeed, life is full of challenges…
Zaphod:
The rabbi you quoted was voicing a view that’s not at all a part of the Jewish religion. He was 90 years old at the time, and may have been losing his marbles or at least becoming quite eccentric. His remarks were very widely condemned.
As for those supposed Talmudic excerpts you find online, the internet is full of fake Talmudic quotes that purport to show similar attitudes. Don’t be fooled by them.
Some of these sites are based on this sort of thing. The history of fake texts that stir up anti-Semitism is rather long (Protocols of the Elders of Zion, anyone?). You can find more on the subject here.
Although Zaphod and I do not align on the substance of the identity issues – my being completely unconcerned with the continued existence of white collectivists of any ethnic stripe regardless of their hue – I do tend to fall into the camp of the hyper skeptics regarding the Talmud.
Again, Christians generally have no idea at all regarding the content of this work; nor and most astoundingly, that it is considered by some Jewish people to be an Oral Torah, and by implication a secret, or at least esoteric law of the “sages” who have surpassed a God who chuckles at their precociousness.
That is by any historical measure a fabrication if taken in its most literal form, and in many ways an offense against the very idea of a commonly shared and promulgated law.
As far as the opinions of eccentric rabbis goes no one could justly attribute their views to all persons sincerely or nominally Jewish … but that does not mean that they do not have followers.
The Talmud seems to me to have some of the same execrable qualities of the Brehon laws (as well as some of the good) in being concerned with preserving “Face” for the so-called members of the community, and preserving them from humiliation. Therein lies the path to the death of law and liberty, as we are now experiencing in this country because of the same damnable impulses of herd minded (I almost used harsher language) types.
The fake quotes from the Talmud are possibly abundant. But the real ones are sometimes bad enough … unless you think that the question of the guilt of a roofer tumbling off the eves onto a woman and penetrating her, is a question capable of generating a morally serious answer.
Zaphod likes to con people who want to be conned. It worked on him and he knows his limitations. 🙂
Last week I had a set-to with a couple cafe friends over HCQ.
One friend, C., launched a characteristically smug routine (perhaps copped from his hero, Stephen Colbert) about Trump’s recommendation of the HCQ, a “quack drug.”
Mostly I don’t rise to the bait, but this time, I said, “Wait a minute. What’s your cite on that?”
Then S. jumps in, thinking I was disputing that Trump had recommended HCQ.
I remembered the basics, but didn’t want to be distracted from my point with C. Also I wasn’t sure what either of them believed Trump had said. (Some claim Trump recommended injecting household bleach!) So I told S. to get the quote and print it out.
In response S., red-faced, is literally screaming at me. “I don’t have to look it up. I know what I saw on TV!”
This is the second time I’ve been one-two’ed by C. and S over politics. I stand up, leave the cafe patio and walk to my car.
I’ve been avoiding them since. I’m not sure what to do. S. is a lost cause — a walking bomb waiting to go off on when his politics are doubted or opposed. But C. and I have been become buddies of a sort. He’s got an interesting mind and a good sense of humor. When he’s not doing his Stephen Colbert shtick, we have a good time.
Barry Meislin on June 10, 2021 at 5:10 am said:
My guess is that traditionalist Anglo-American Catholics would have little to disagree with in regard to that point; no doubt referencing a resentment laden and pot-bellied little fellow from a certain perpetually failing South American polity, who has found lodging in the Vatican.
With some people you have to practice the verbal equivalent of “defensive writing”; which is specifying, qualifying, and contexting every assertion one makes. It’s a drag, but to some degree can be practiced as tact: concede what is assumed or indisputable anyway, attribute it to the jerk, and then point out the detail or exception that makes your case.
A normal person will take the concession and hear you out.
If they are intelligent, feral, neurotics, their eyes will narrow with suspicion, or they will interrupt the second they see where you are going in order to head you off. This clues you in to the fact that they are not men of goodwill in the first place but rather perpetually scanning neurotics who are using you as a bucket for their bilious ejections.
There is no having a conversation with such a person. The only game they are playing is “last tag”.
DNW:
In my experience these verbal discussions escalate too quickly for defensive tactics to work. It’s A, B, C, “Bang, zoom, to the moon, Alice.”
Online discussions get a bad rap that they polarize and become nasty because participants aren’t speaking in person with non-verbal cues which might otherwise moderate the interaction. There’s truth to that.
However, online is still slower and gives somewhat more time for reflection — as well as summoning a better argument — that I find I prefer the discussions. Unless the interaction goes straight down the drain to trading insults.
Huxley, I can sympathize:
When I mentioned HCQ+ (within the context of a pre-existing alternative to the vaccine), in passing, to someone I know—intelligent, personable, cultured, caring—the retort was, “Oh, you mean the fish tank cleaner that Trump recommended….”
I didn’t pursue it….
The media has one helluvalot to answer for.
“…regarding the Talmud…”, that “secret”, “esoteric law of the sage”, it’s, um, online and translated (but—WARNING!!—it’s long with accretions and accretions of commentary to try to make heads and tails of all the discussions (on quotidien and obscure topics) and differences of opinion—-seems that Jews (from early on) liked to discuss and argue (gosh, who knew?)…Moreover, there are two versions, one longer than the other).
BTW, the reason why it is can be so convoluted (or appear to be) is that the Rabbis believed they were discussing God’s Law (AKA the Divine Will) and wanted to get it right…or at least were loathe to get it wrong; which is one reason why in many cases, the official outcome of the religio-legal disputes is: “No decision” (or “it’s a tie”)—you know, what we all hate about hockey and soccer….
WARNING #2: Chinese (and other) scholars have been known to get a real kick out of it…but then their interest in discovering highly involved and intellectually inflected esoteric texts from bizarre, ancient cultures (ancient cultures that just happen to be still around)—or in Star Trek terms, distant planets— is well developed, I guess.
To be sure, certain scholarly individuals have, through the ages, been burnt at the stake trying to defend the Talmud from others who were self-righteous in their ignorance, so there can be no doubt that it can elicit intense emotions.
(It might, though, help to actually know what one is talking about.)
Regarding its supposed affinity to the Brehon laws, all that that would seem to prove is that the Irish are one of the Ten Lost Tribes.
(Was there any doubt?)
Barry, here is how you characterized and then responded to what I said.
And here is what I actually wrote:
I think that what I wrote is unexceptionable as a description if read accurately.
I do wish that when people quoted in their responses, they would take the trouble to quote accurately and completely enough to give a sense of what was really stated. It seems to me to be the honest thing to do, regardless of how annoyed one might become.
Now I’ll do some quoting. Not from the texts we used in school, but from a current media source.
“Ask The Rabbi” … [The Jerusalem Post 7/2012]
However,
Now this so far as I can determine is largely, and surprisingly, appertaining to the Torah itself, rather than merely the so-called “Oral Torah”, or Talmud, which seems to generate the real controversy.