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  1. It is the Biden Crime Family and The Big Guy is in charge.

    This is going to end very badly for the US. The CCP, Norks and Iran are going to do something and Joe won’t respond.

    Just recall what Nikita did to a young JFK.

    Our enemies know weakness when they see it and will take full advantage of us. I’ll never forgive the Dems for stealing the election. I won’t forgive the Fake News for covering for Sleepy Joe. And I won’t forgive the FBI and judiciary for not stopping the steal. This is serious business.

  2. When I first heard “the Biden crime family” phrase uttered by Giuliani, I thought it was considerably hyperbolic. However, when I finally grasped the import of Hunter’s email about how he would never demand that his daughter kick back 50% of her graft up to Hunter the way the Big Guy demanded his 50% cut; well wow. A Biden crime family indeed.
    ______

    But that was only the beginning of the story, and not really the most noteworthy part.

    OK, there are many disturbing facets to the whole story. But when I first read that Hallie threw a handgun (no doubt loaded) into a public outdoor trash receptacle I literally gasped.

  3. Hunter was apparently paid a very, very large advance for his “memoir” (Beautiful Things, to be published next month), and he is also supposedly preparing a solo exhibition of his “art” at a gallery in NYC, nor is he in any real danger of investigation for his corruption and his criminality by the completely worthless DOJ/FBI. One might well imagine that no-one in the country was more pleased with last year’s fraudulent election of Biden than his son, who no doubt realized that he would be safe for the foreseeable future from any possibility of prosecution.

  4. Merrick Garland too busy investigating “insurrectionists” to bother with Hunter’s naughty escapades

  5. Not on subject but don’t know where else to ask. Neo, exactly what qualifies for credit for purchases through the Amazon portal? the first product searched? How about the second product? How about if I add to a wish list and buy later? Geek fest, I know.

  6. It is the set-up for removal of Biden. They don’t want to have “dementia” as the reason for removal because that would mean they knew he was ill and that could be used against them.

    But criminal family history is another story. The wheels have been set in motion. Kama Sutra is neutralizing her potential opponents in Cuomo and Newsome. She has Whitmer on notice and potentially a VP slot if she plays nice. With Stacy Abrams in the wings.

    Now Kama has to close the deal with the Tech Overlords and the Chinese.

    I am going to have sooooo much fun with the Biden supporters on this. More than I am having now.

    “You like this. You VOTED for it.”

  7. On a related note. See how Democrats are trying to force people back towards the city and/or public transportation. It is the mileage tax that will be the killer. For those soccer moms you can’t drive your kids all over the place.

    Same thing to tell them. “You VOTED for this.”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/03/26/biden-gas-price-increases-and-new-millage-tax-will-cost-middle-class-twice-as-much-as-covid-stimulus-checks-received/

  8. j e

    I think the rule in the publishing industry is that the author gets to keep the entire advance even if the book doesn’t cover the regular royalty rate. So, if the advance is $1m and the regular royalty rate is $1.00 per book and the book only sells 500k copies, then author gets to keep the entire $1m.

    This is just a way to get bribe money to people like Hunter and Hillary. I’m guessing the publisher is a subsidiary of a big media corp like Viacom or Disney.

  9. jvermeer:

    Anything you order in a single visit that starts with my portal qualifies, I believe. And I think if you put something on the wish list through a visit from my portal, it counts if you order it within a month of that. At least, that used to be the rules.

  10. Having filled out numerous ATF Form 4473’s, it is appalling, but not surprising, that there is no action from the ATF on this one. Lying on the form! Wow. Then, to just dump the gun?!?! I would be behind bars, in the gulag, or disappeared.

    Where is the CNN attended pre-dawn raid?

  11. ““Bizarre incident” is Hunter Biden’s middle name,…”

    I love that line!

  12. huxley,
    First, you find a bridge over a river with a deep water channel. I’m sure Hunter understood this, but it would seem that Hallie wasn’t privy to basic crime family procedures.

  13. The democrats need a majority vote to name a new VP. No sitting VP to cast deciding vote.

  14. Each new item to file under the “Bidens are sleazy” column shouldn’t surprise me. After all, there are 24 hours in every day and corruption apparently never sleeps.

  15. I am Spartacus: the Biden supporters I know, far from having second thoughts, are still misty-eyed about what a warm empathetic wise decent caring honest man he is.

  16. The Hunter Biden gun cover up occurred in 2018. The Democratic debates were held in 2019. So Hunter was being protected before Joe Biden was even an announced candidate. Does this mean that “the powers behind the throne” – whoever they may be – were already maneuvering the pieces in place for a Biden presidency?

  17. from the Politico link:

    “POLITICO obtained copies of the Firearms Transaction Record and a receipt for the gun dated Oct. 12, 2018.

    Hunter responded “no” to a question on the transaction record that asks, “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” Five years earlier, he had been discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine, and he and family members have spoken about his history of drug use.

    Lying on the form is a felony, though prosecutions for it are exceedingly rare.

    Neither Hallie Biden nor George Mesires, a lawyer for Hunter Biden, responded to requests for comment.”….
    —————————————————
    **** LYING ON THE FORM IS A FELONY ****

    John Hayward @Doc_0 · Mar 24
    Have you noticed how the people who keep howling for new gun control laws have zero interest in actually enforcing the ones already on the books?

  18. MAC – at this point you are correct. Wait for the summer. It will come. When gas prices goes higher and the Obama Cabal starts the Coup de Etat. then it gets interesting.

    When there is a new war erupting (I think Yemen) you can call them WAR MONGERS. Let’s see how their virtue signaling holds up then.

    Oh yeah – on this beautiful spring afternoon I ran into a neighbor with the black lives matter slogan. I have in my window a Trump/Pence sign. She laid on the liberal manure and ended with “black lives matter”. I answered “including the unborn ones too right?” She left me alone.

    Change is a process and not a moment. You must persevere.

  19. “This is going to end very badly for the US. The CCP, Norks and Iran are going to do something and Joe won’t respond.

    Yup. Just a matter of when not if. Taiwan is living on borrowed time. South Korea should be getting anxious, Kim’s silence is ominous. Once Iran achieves nuclear ICBM capability, placing a stranglehold on shipping passing through the Strait of Hormuz, through which 1/3 of the world’s oil passes is an obvious move.

  20. In case anyone is interested, here’s a story that will get you de-platformed if you link to it on Twitter, Facebook, etc. A police report from Prescott AZ. Hunter returned a rental car with interesting items in it. He didn’t return it in person, of course. Had he, the block for police report type would have included “DUI” in addition to “Narcotics Offense.” So Hunter’s partner in crime called after they left the car in the rental lot to say his “friend” Robert (Hunter) Biden was feeling “sick” and just left the car with the keys under the gas cap door.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/410496005/Hunter-Biden-Docs-Final-Redacted#from_embed

    Synopsis:

    On 10/28/2016 at approximately 2200 hours Robert Biden returned a rental vehicle to Hertz car rental at 6500 MacCurdy Dr and left his identifications, credit cards, Attorney General badge, cell phone, meth pipe, a used bindle to meth inside the vehicle. A Hertz incident report, rental agreement, smoke filter, and a multi-tool were also located on the floor of the front passenger side of the vehicle.

    A cell phone was later located under the driver seat…

    Hunter rented a car at LAX. Then he got in an accident and traded his damaged vehicle for a Jeep Compass in Palm Springs. Apparently he flew out from Prescott; the Hertz location he dropped the car off was at the airport. Clearly, somebody had the good sense to make sure he didn’t show up in person as he was apparently stoned out of his mind. Like when he dropped off his laptops at the Delaware repair shop (the store owner said he was clearly high and could barely sign his name).

    Apparently he has a lot of government agencies covering up for him. The Prescott PD referred him to the DA for prosecution for the drug paraphenalia/residue. I guess the DE AG badge got him some professional courtesy. Among the pocket litter he left in the car was a Secret Service business card.

    I bet the SS agent whose name is on the card is the one who intervened to cover up these crimes.

    Nobody hold their breath waiting for the media to get on this, or ask “the Big Guy” in the crime family how many of Hunter’s crimes he’s going to cover-up.

  21. Once Iran achieves nuclear ICBM capability, placing a stranglehold on shipping passing through the Strait of Hormuz, through which 1/3 of the world’s oil passes is an obvious move.

    I have a suspicion nuclear weapons are not particularly useful for running naval blockades.

    About 30% of current production is attributable to countries which have a piece of the Persian Gulf coastline. However, there are pipelines to the eastern Mediterranean and pipelines to the Red Sea. Iran, if I’m not mistaken, has no means of transporting oil but the Gulf.

  22. Speaking of guns…. Does anyone have a Rosetta Stone to explain how the Left can say both 1) defund the police because of institutional racism and the killing of countless black people every day, and 2) guns need to be confiscated, so that only the military and the police have guns?

    So when someone, even a black someone, has a problem they are to call the police, who will probably shoot them? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

  23. “2) guns need to be confiscated, so that only the military and the police have guns?”

    In my view they are/have been trying to position the National Guard as the force that will used against the “domestic terrorist threat” of conservative gun owners. They are closer to the local level and separate from police/sheriffs and the reg. military. However the Capital stunt may have damaged that.

  24. Cornhead, “ This is going to end very badly for the US. The CCP, Norks and Iran are going to do something and Joe won’t respond.”. The CCP has Biden’s number. Remember Obama’s last visit to The Middle Kingdom? They didn’t bring a stairway to the front hatch of Air Force One and forced him to deplane by the built-in rear stairs. He was greeted by a delegation led by the Beijing city librarian with gifts of children’s picture books (I made up that bit about the librarian).

  25. Cornhead writes:

    “And I won’t forgive the FBI and judiciary for not stopping the steal. This is serious business.”

    I have to admit I have been hoping that putting the FBI under the direction of Chris Wray would have signaled a change from Jim Comey. I mean, it would be hard to be as dirtied as Comey was.

    It now looks like I was wrong: Wray appears to be as corrupted as Comey — he just has not had sufficient time for us to see the full extent of his corruption.

    I have to agree with Cornhead, but add to his criticism the fact that the FBI is protecting the Bidens, and all other Democrats too. What does it take to clean house there?

  26. Warning: long comment.

    POLITICO obtained copies of the Firearms Transaction Record and a receipt for the gun dated Oct. 12, 2018.

    Hunter responded “no” to a question on the transaction record that asks, “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” Five years earlier, he had been discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine, and he and family members have spoken about his history of drug use.

    Lying on the form is a felony, though prosecutions for it are exceedingly rare…

    Actually prosecutions for this crime aren’t all that rare.

    Boys and girls, let’s review Hunter Biden’s documented pedigree. In 2013 Robert Hunter Biden is booted from the Navy Reserve on his very first drill weekend because he pops positive for cocaine on what was reportedly a random UA. When I was on active duty I used to be in charge of “Operation Golden Flow,” as we lovingly referred to the random urinalysis program. Let me tell you something; as a reservist you have to be an idiot to test dirty for coke on a random UA, at least when I was running the show. We tested for the drugs only, not the metabolites. Coke is out of your system within 72 hours. Unless, of course, you are a heavy, habitual user and then it can be detected longer. If infrequent recreational users stop using coke on Tuesday, by the time they show up for drill on Saturday are selected to go in for a random UA they’ll be clean. If they’re not addicts. And less face it; if you’re an addict you’re not going to stop using on Tuesday anyway.

    In the Navy you can also be ordered to take a UA for cause. One has to wonder if the Navy covered up for the Vice President. Who is of course always one heartbeat away from being their CinC. Or as we see the ObamaBidenHarris administration taking form, one trip and fall down Air Force One’s boarding stairs away. As I mentioned reportedly it was a random UA.

    But those reports are wrong; it was most definitely not a random UA. It simply isn’t possible. And I strongly suspect Hunter showed up at his new command high and was ordered to take a UA for cause. To coin a phrase, I question the timing.

    I double checked the facts. Hunter was given a direct commission as a “deployable public affairs officer” according to his interesting first and as it turns out historic last-ever periodic fitness report. His lying, crooked dad swore him in as a naval officer at a well-publicized ceremony at the White House on Monday, 20 May 2013. The following weekend was the last weekend in May; it was Memorial Day weekend and unless the system had changed entirely from when I retired from the Navy Reserve in 2008 by 2013 no reserve units would have been scheduled to drill on that weekend.

    After he was commissioned he was assigned to Navy Public Affairs Support Element EAST aboard NAS Norfolk, VA. His CO gave him a periodic FITREP during the first week of June and it was “not observed” because while Hunter was assigned to the command but he hadn’t checked in yet so the CO couldn’t have observed him to rate his performance. But the administrative requirements blocks have to be checked; as the name implies periodic FITREPs are required and certain times per year for officers. Sometime later in June he showed up for his first drill weekend and that’s when he tested dirty.

    On the first drill weekend a new member is just checking into the command. Whoever is above Hunter’s former reserve unit in its administrative chain of command in Naval Region Mid-Atlantic would have generated the list before the drilling reservists show up Saturday morning. Hunter couldn’t have been on that list of names until he completed his check-in. The first weekend he could conceivably have been selected for a random UA would have been July.

    One of two things happened. To get a waiver for his prior drug use Hunter Biden would have had to reveal the sordid details and would have (and apparently did according to the records the Navy was forced to release under FOIA) swear that he was sober. Lots of strings obviously were pulled to get this dirtbag into the Navy as an officer in the first place. In which case Hunter Biden is ten times the idiot other reservists who have popped positive on the first drill weekend it’s possible for them to be randomly tested. Hunter Biden was one of six individuals in a country of 330 million to be selected for the Navy Reserve direct commissioning program for reserve PAOs. Nothing Hunter Biden has done in his entire life would have made him so valuable to the Navy as a reserve PAO that he would qualify for a direct commission. Except for the one qualification that this grifter has used to get all his other high paying no-show jobs; his last name.

    He required two waivers to get a direct commission; that alone strongly indicates he only got in due to nepotism. One waiver was for his age, the second for a drug-related incident at some point prior to applying for this highly competitive source of a commission. Which means he had a record and knew would have shown up when the feds ran his background check. If he didn’t have a record of at least an arrest (probably not a conviction as first time offenders often get deferred sentences if they complete a diversion program) then he would have lied just like he lied on the ATFE form and none would have been the wiser. And he was commissioned as a Public Affairs Officer, not a JAG even though he is a licensed attorney. I was temporarily assigned as a recruiter after I was commissioned. Recruiters would kill to sign up a licensed professional such as a doctor, dentist, nurse, or a lawyer. If you’re recruiting officers someone at your recruiting station better get one of each per month or the OIC is going to get marked down on their FITREP for failing to make their quota. Yet Hunter was a PAO, which also raises a flag. It means the JAG Corps rejected him. Probably because he was clearly unfit to prosecute anyone for violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice for drug possession, use, and/or distribution.

    Did the public affairs officer community also not want him? Did his new CO simply schedule him for a UA upon check-in based upon his very public reputation or the fact he required a waiver in the first place? Did someone in DC resent the fact that someone had used their influence to get a valuable and rare direct commission for the drug-addicted son of the VP? Again drawing on my experience as a recruiter as well as an active duty and later reserve naval officer the CO wouldn’t have any way of knowing on his own that Hunter Biden had gotten a waiver for drug use. Taking a drug test simply isn’t part of the normal check-in process. Moreover, we test everyone for drug use during the recruitment process AND we warn potential recruits very early in the process that they will have to take a drug test (if Biden’s new command was going to require him to take submit to a UA upon check-in they would have given him plenty of warning as well). If they pass that test that’s the last time they take a UA until they are chosen for a random drug test.

    Or if their CO orders someone suspected of being drunk or high to take one for cause.

    FYI, when a reservist shows up for their drill weekend and is dirty on a random UA they won’t be criminally prosecuted. You can’t prove they were in the line of duty when they did the drugs. And, believe it or not, merely having controlled substances in your system isn’t enough to sustain a criminal charge. It’s still serious misconduct, though. Even if a member of the armed forces isn’t convicted of anything at a court martial the armed forces considers illegal drug use serious misconduct and will discharge any individual who tests positive. And that discharge will not be honorable or general under honorable conditions.

    But if, as I strongly suspect was the case here, a reservist is ordered to take a UA for cause and the command’s suspicions prove correct the reservist is by definition unfit for duty. Reservists can and are charged under UCMJ Article 112, “Drunk on Duty,” when they are in any way incapacitated. Don’t be fooled by the article’s title; subsections (a) and (b) cover Hunter’s use of illegal drugs. Individual’s can and are charged simply for showing up too hung over to do their duty. If it’s a legal substance, alcohol or prescribed medication, it’s equivalent to a misdemeanor. If you have illegal drugs in your system that bumps it up to a felony. Depending on the drug the reservist can be locked up for 2 or 5 years. Cocaine is one of the drugs that gets you five years.

    Only a commanding officer can order someone to take a UA for cause but it is rarely the CO who notices if someone is drunk on duty. It’s possible in Hunter’s case because when a new officer checks-in at a command he’ll have an office meeting with the CO at the earliest available time. Usually it’s a colleague who notices and tells the supervisor, the immediate supervisor may notice, but either way the supervisor makes his/her own evaluation of the situation and reports any suspicions to the CO. The CO also makes his/her own evaluation after observing the individual, and if the CO concurs with the supervisor orders the suspect to take the test.

    Which means the individual’s incapacitation is “contrary to good order and discipline.” It’s too noticeable to let it slide. As long as you show up on time, freshly shaved with a haircut, and aren’t constantly in the bathroom or puking or reeking of alcohol you can get away with being hung over or even still slightly buzzed from the night before and won’t get into any real trouble. Consider the outfit Hunter was in; half the Navy would constantly be in the brig if they were that strict about enforcing Article 112. Plus, again, his last name is Biden.

    Consequently Biden’s state of incapacitation/intoxication would have had to have been obvious to everyone present. Since Hunter was a commissioned officer he could have been charged under Article 133, “Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and Gentleman.”

    Again, did the Navy cover this up, as it appears the FBI, SS, ATFE, Yavapai county attorney’s, Prescott city attorney’s, and Delaware AG’s offices have done?

    So, he had a documented drug incident before he joined the Navy Reserve, joins the Navy at 43 and gets booted with a general discharge under for what for the politically unconnected normally get are less than honorable conditions, leaves a meth pipe and other drug paraphernalia in a rental car in October 2016. Police get involved. Arizona DPS tests the paraphernalia and find coke residue, the same drug that got Hunter kicked out of the Navy. It turns out that Hunter had been in a car accident while renting from Hertz as well.

    Which brings us back to the Delaware state AG badge. It turns out that Beau’s widow isn’t the only perk of office he picked up from his brother. Because Hunter was never the AG or an assistant AG. Generally, impersonating an AG is a crime. In the Biden family it allows you to screw your dead brother’s wife and gets both the Yavapai county attorney and Prescott city attorney to decline to prosecute you. One wonders if it also got Hunter out of a DUI somewhere between LA and Palm Springs when the police responded to Hunter’s accident.

    In October 2020 a Chinese website posts a video of Hunter using drugs and having sex in various and sundry prostitutes, one of whom appears to be an underage girl. One of them is also clearly Chinese; I wonder if Eric Swalwell was passing his Chinese spy girlfriend (Fang Fang: “The Spy Who Shagged Me”) around to his buddies. Despite the best efforts of the DNC and their propagandists in the MFM (all the outlets are competing to see who can be the best US version of Soviet-era Pravda) to convince us the videos were forgeries as part of a Russian disinformation campaign we know for a fact they are genuine. Leaving aside the potential sex crimes and risks to national security, the metadata will tell us when Hunter took the damning video.

    So, Hunter buys a handgun on 12 October 2018 and commits another unprosecuted felony by lying on the ATFE form. Then 11 days later the police get involved when Hallie Biden, using the same good judgement and native intelligence that made her fall into bed with her drug-addicted bro-in-law, throws a (loaded?) handgun into a grocery store dumpster. Across from a high school.

    When a responding officer questioned Hunter, he asked Hunter if he’d been drinking or using drugs. Like being ordered to take a UA for cause, that’s not a question that pops up for no reason.

    If Hunter’s reserve CO ordered him to take a UA for cause, which Hunter obviously failed, the Navy had a slam dunk case for both “Drunk on Duty” and “Conduct Unbecoming.” And as I’ve laid the known facts out I don’t see how he could have been tested for drugs other than for cause.

    When Hunter left his drug pipe and baggies which the Arizona DPS confirmed had coke residue on them in Prescott the city and county attorneys had a slam dunk case as well.

    When Hunter answered “no” to the question about illegal drug use/addiction the local US attorney had a slam dunk case for illegal gun possession by a prohibited person.

    I read that the GOP congresscritters want answers about this gun incident. If they actually hold hearings into this, as they damn well should considering the Democrats are all in on gun control, they need to press the heads of all these agencies and departments for answers. I think we should all want to know why if someone who had a drug-related incident on his police record (which is why Hunter had to get one of his waivers), was kicked out of the armed forces for illegal drug use, leaves drug paraphernalia in a rental car that police investigators confirm contains drug residue, abandons a laptop that has selfies of himself doing doing drugs, and then loses a handgun under circumstances which causes a responding officer to have reasonable suspicion that he’s been using drugs, isn’t a prohibited person then why is anybody?

    Or, just play the video of Hunter’s Good Morning America interview or get an advance copy of Hunter Biden’s autobiography and read the parts in which he supposedly tells all about his addictions. Then ask the g-men sitting at the witness in what country on what planet in what universe can this guy legally own a gun. Because it’s not this one.

    But as things stand I doubt they’ll even bring up the fact that the feds don’t enforce the laws already on the books. By design; the leftists in the gub’mint and MFM want to convince the ignorant electorate that there are no gun laws on the books, and hide the facts. I certainly doubt they’ll mention Hunter’s case. If hell freezes over they do bring it up they either won’t get answers (“I can’t discuss an ongoing investigation,” which in the functioning country we no longer have would lead to the obvious follow-up question about why these federal agencies even have an investigation at all considering no federal laws could have been broken when Hunter’s squeeze tossed his illegally obtained firearm; he broke the law when he lied to get it). Or they’ll get the “James Comey” lie that crapweasel used to cover for Clinton. “No reasonable prosecutor” blah blah blah.

    I note in the report that when the responding officer was questioning Hunter about his revolver and asked about his drinking/drug use, Hunter demanded to know if the officer was trying to make him angry.

    Mustn’t make a member of the Biden crime family angry. Then “the big guy” at the top of the syndicate gets involved. That can get you fired; just ask the Ukrainian prosecutor Joe extorted the Ukrainian government into firing. Or quite possibly it can get you Arkancided. It can force you to kill yourself with two shots to the back of your head. With your hands tied behind your back.

  27. It’s only common sense really but, if you’re going to shack up with your dead brother’s widow, you really should first explain to her that you need to have a pistol handy so you can make illegal drug purchases safely. Such is the gentlemanly approach for relationship transitions like this.

  28. Steve57: thank you for clarifying so many things about Hunter’s full-time government-provided nanny-service. I had wondered about his early wash-out. Clearly, his CO wanted him out of the place before he created some incident they couldn’t cover up, and the military doesn’t seem to have a problem covering up some very big ones, when they want to.

    Two points I’ve seen, not mentioned above, as Neo was focusing on a different question:
    (1) The gun was turned in to the police a few days later by the dumpster-diver who found it.
    (2) The Secret Service has been implicated as responding to the incident both by Hunter, in texts to his psych doc, and by the gun seller, according to “sources”.

    The SS (such an unfortunate choice of acronym, you would think someone would have thought better of that name in the beginning) denies everything.
    They are pretty good at covering things up as well. Just sayin’.

    First, the original 2021 story, which everyone else on the web is mirroring in their own characteristic fashion, although the texts come solely from the NYP because they were on Hunter’s laptop of recent fame.
    The Blaze had the original original story, in 2020, and we’ll get to that later.

    I am surprised at the SS denials, since this is what Politico reported. However, all the information comes from two anonymous sources, and the gun seller did not speak to Politico himself, so they are good to go so far.

    The main thrust of the writers was the SS connection (see the URL), rather than the law enforcement FAIL that incensed The Blaze.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/sources-secret-service-inserted-itself-into-case-of-hunter-bidens-gun-477879

    But a curious thing happened at the time: Secret Service agents approached the owner of the store where Hunter bought the gun and asked to take the paperwork involving the sale, according to two people, one of whom has firsthand knowledge of the episode and the other was briefed by a Secret Service agent after the fact.

    The gun store owner refused to supply the paperwork, suspecting that the Secret Service officers wanted to hide Hunter’s ownership of the missing gun in case it were to be involved in a crime, the two people said. The owner, Ron Palmieri, later turned over the papers to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which oversees federal gun laws.

    Days later, the gun was returned by an older man who regularly rummages through the grocery’s store’s trash to collect recyclable items, according to people familiar with the situation.

    The incident did not result in charges or arrests.

    But the alleged involvement of the Secret Service remains a mystery. One law enforcement official said that at the time of the incident, individual Secret Service agents at the agency’s offices in Wilmington, Del., and Philadelphia kept an informal hand in maintaining the former vice president’s security. The person cited an instance in 2019 when the Wilmington office of the Secret Service called the Delaware State Police to arrange security for a public appearance by Biden.

    The Secret Service declined to answer a question about whether it had informal involvement in Biden’s security during this period.

    Asked whether the Secret Service requested state police security for Biden during the period when he was not under the agency’s protection, a Delaware State Police spokesman said, “I have reached out to our sergeant who oversees the Executive Protection Unit with the Delaware State Police. He is unaware of any such requests or services provided.”

    Any involvement by the Secret Service on behalf of the Biden family or on its own initiative would be inappropriate interference in an incident that was already being investigated by Delaware State Police with the involvement of the FBI, according to law enforcement officials.

    While police questioned Hunter and Hallie, two Secret Service agents arrived at the store where Hunter had purchased the gun, StarQuest Shooters & Survival Supply in Wilmington, according to the two people familiar with the incident. The agents showed their badges and identification cards to Palmieri, the store’s owner, and asked to take possession of the Firearms Transaction Record that Hunter had filled out to buy the gun earlier that month, according to the people familiar with the incident.

    Palmieri refused to hand over the transaction record to the Secret Service agents because such records fall under the purview of the ATF. The Secret Service agents left without the records, according to the people familiar with the case. Later that day, the ATF arrived at the store to inspect the records.

    Palmieri declined to comment on the episode.

    There is a lot to unpack in that, but the Delaware & Philly agents almost certainly kept a watch on old Scranton Joe and his family, if only out of habit — and awareness of Hunter’s, shall we say, hobbies.

    If the sources are correct that the “agents” showed the gun seller their ID, then the Agency is either lying, or was not apprised of the incident by their agents, or the men were impersonating Feds in order to intercept the records before they reached a real government agency or a news outlet.

    None of those are reassurring options.

    However, any fears that the incident would hurt Joe’s election chances turned out to be unfounded.
    Somebody made sure of that.

  29. Part 2: the original original story & follow-up, or not.

    First, from Politico again:

    ATF spokesman Andre Miller referred questions to the Delaware State Police. Jason Hatchell, a spokesman for the Delaware State Police, said any questions about the incident would have to be filed through a Freedom of Information Act Request. The Delaware State Police previously rejected POLITICO’s FOIA request for records related to the incident last November.

    Gee, I wonder why.

    The incident has received scant attention, save for a report on the conservative website The Blaze that focused on the state police decision not to file charges against either Hunter or Hallie.

    Gee, I still wonder why.

    “Focus” is the wrong verb, by the way. The SS agents received as many or more copy lines at The Blaze, but the lack of charges are what went into the headline and URL.

    Politico, on the other hand, emphasized the Secret Service’s alleged involvement, not the clear failure of the authorities to exact the legal consequences that would have been the, um, focus if anyone else had done what the Bidens did.

    Look at the date on The Blaze post, which has most of the substance of the Politico report; at least the anonymous sources – two or three? – agreed, or else Politico just copied those parts from The Blaze.

    Of note is that Politico hopped on the train almost instantly, and then hopped off again almost as fast when they were rebuffed on their FOIA. At least, my search doesn’t turn up any contemporaneous story at their site.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/source-hunter-bidens-gun-was-taken-by-hallie-biden-in-2018-thrown-into-a-supermarket-garbage-can-went-missing-and-no-arrests-were-made
    DAVE URBANSKI October 29, 2020

    A source with knowledge of the situation has revealed to TheBlaze [sic] that in October 2018, Hunter Biden’s handgun was taken from his vehicle without his knowledge by Hallie Biden — the widow of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden’s son Beau — and she placed it in a garbage can outside a Delaware supermarket.

    Delaware State Police on Thursday told TheBlaze the case was referred for a decision on prosecution to the Delaware Department of Justice, which has not yet returned TheBlaze’s request for comment on this case.

    In addition, the source also said agents from the United States Secret Service as well as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives visited the shop where Hunter Biden purchased the gun prior to any report being filed.

    The scenario potentially implicates a number of Delaware laws, including laws that make it a crime to leave a loaded firearm where children might easily retrieve it.

    The source said the ATF asked the shop owner for the file on Hunter Biden’s gun purchase — and that a copy was provided. In addition, the source said Secret Service agents also visited the shop prior to any report being filed, and that they needed to find the gun.

    It was not immediately clear why the Secret Service would have properly been involved in the investigation since Hunter Biden’s last day of Secret Service protection was July 8, 2014.

    This story has been updated [but it doesn’t say what was added to the original report.]

    Here’s what The Blaze says now, interweaving its own original reporting with what Politico copied and added, so I give only the beginning and ending.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/politico-blaze-hunter-biden-missing-gun-story
    DAVE URBANSKI March 25, 2021

    Politico on Thursday published a Hunter Biden missing gun story that TheBlaze broke just days before last November’s presidential election.

    TheBlaze and Politico both noted that the incident did not result in charges or arrests.

    Questions almost ask themselves, without being begged.

    The Blaze attempted to get the story out before the election, but it obviously failed to get legs, even though most of the Right-Wing blogs at least scan the Blaze occasionally for tidbits they can use.

    I certainly don’t remember any BREAKING!! headlines breaking when they would have done some good, not even in the NY Post’s laptop stories, and NYP had Hunter’s texts about the incident on their copy of the drive.

    This hot potato of a story was deep-sixed even better than the Laptop story.

  30. So, the Ammoland guy asked last fall, “Why, fully two years later, has there been no word from the Delaware Department of Justice? What happened with their “investigation”?”

    That’s a really good question, but the answer is pretty obvious from the comments he made about Joe’s anti-gun record: the Democrats could not afford to have his family’s dramatic soap opera lives impinge on his reputation, because the Republicans would “pounce” on the blatant hypocrisy.
    And the Deep State protects its own; that’s one of the perks.

    After he announced his candidacy for President on April 25, 2019, any dirty laundry in the Biden Basement would have to stay sequestered (much as the candidate himself was for most of 2020).

    But somebody (at least two) still wanted it exposed, hence the approach to Politico with the gun story, and some added details, as I have already shown.

    This time, they got what they wanted – the connection with the-former-Dr. Ablow.
    Back to the New York Post and that infamous broken laptop, omitting all the background from Politico and The Blaze, and most of the texts.

    https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/hunter-biden-texts-shoot-down-secret-service-denial-over-gun-incident/

    Hunter Biden sent a text message that said the Secret Service responded after his handgun disappeared in 2018 — contradicting the agency’s assertion that it wasn’t involved, The Post has learned.

    “Took from lock box of truck and put it IN PapER BAG AND Threw it in trash can at local high end grocer. For no reason,” he wrote on Dec. 6, 2018.

    “And I freaked when I saw it was missing 10 minutes after she took it and when she went back to get it after I scared the s–t out of her it was gone which led to state police investigation of me. True story.”

    Both messages are contained on a hard drive obtained by The Post that holds the contents of a damaged laptop computer that was left at Wilmington repair shop by Hunter in April 2019 and never retrieved.

    The Macbook Pro laptop was later seized by the FBI, apparently as part of what Hunter last year said is an investigation into his “tax affairs” by the Delaware US Attorney’s Office.

    Hunter sent the text messages to former celebrity psychiatrist Keith Ablow, a onetime Fox News contributor whose Massachusetts medical license was suspended in May 2019 and later expired.

    The Post finally connected the dots.

  31. The Deep State certainly knew about the two-year-old gun incident and cover-up.

    Did someone not enamored of Democrats or the Elites contact The Blaze in October 2020 because they had access to the second computer the FBI seized in February (really the first one sequentially, I suppose), knew that the gun incident texts were on it (as they might have been; that’s not known at this point), and suspected there might be copies on the repair shop’s machine as well, and the gun story could still be pounced on by Republicans with verve and vigor?

    Was the censoring of the NY Post by Big Tech’s honchos pre-emptive, in case the Ablow texts were found by the Post minions before the election? The “handlers” wouldn’t even have to tell FB and Twitter about the connection between the two Hunter laptops.

    Are Politico’s 2021 sources the same as NBC’s in 2020?
    Is one of Politico’s 2021 sources the same as The Blaze’s single source in 2020?
    Who might they be, and how many are there, really?

    Politico copied this from the 2020 story; after the revelations since the fall, it’s a blatant lie by Hunter.

    The source added to The Blaze that when Hunter Biden was asked by law enforcement if he had contacted anyone about this incident, he asked if that meant his father, Joe Biden, and then said, “I have never called my dad for anything” and that he always handled his own affairs.

    A White House spokesperson said Biden was not aware of any Secret Service involvement in the episode: “President Biden did not have any knowledge of, or involvement in, the Secret Service’s alleged role in this incident, and neither he nor any family member was a protectee at that time.”

    They got the scoop on this detail.

    In addition to questioning Hallie, police called Hunter to the scene, where he was questioned outside the store’s loading dock area and explained he used the gun for target practice, according to the report.

    At one point, two of Janssen’s employees, described by the police report as “Mexican males,” walked past the loading dock area, and Hunter told a police officer that the store had some suspicious people working for it. Asked if he was referring to those two staffers, Hunter responded, “Yea, prolly illegal,” according to the report.

    As Neo said, it’s surprising Politico printed the story at all. And why now, when they could have had a blockbuster story in the heat of the election campaign and chose to forego it? I know: what a silly question.

    Some commenters here and elsewhere have pointed out that the Democrats are planning to drop Joe soon (if he doesn’t drop dead of old age first), and are preparing their faithful acolytes for the disappointment.
    It won’t be Joe’s fault; it’s that danged degenerate Hunter, breaking his father’s heart and forcing him to step down to spend more time with his family.

    Review the Politico story: they do not mention any of Senator Biden’s legislation or policy remarks about gun control.
    Charles Cooke is not so reticent.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/its-common-sense-to-prosecute-hunter-biden-for-his-gun-crimes/

    Politico reports that Hunter Biden may have lied on Form 4473 while buying a gun in 2018, and that, some time later, his girlfriend threw that gun into the trash can across the street from a school

    It seems almost certain that Hunter Biden lied when answering the question, “Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?” He was discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use in 2013; has had constant drug addiction problems since that time, including repeated stints in rehab; continually characterizes himself as an “addict” (he is launching a book on the topic in April); and, in 2019, was kicked out of a strip club for smoking crack. Which matters, because under federal law it is a felony

    for any person in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of any firearm or ammunition from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, knowingly to make any false or fictitious oral or written statement or to furnish or exhibit any false, fictitious, or misrepresented identification, intended or likely to deceive such importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector with respect to any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition of such firearm or ammunition under the provisions of this chapter . . .

    The punishment for this crime is up to ten years in jail.

    Politico notes that “prosecutions for it are exceedingly rare,” which is true. But this raises more questions than it answers — among them: “
    Why is this true?” “What is the point in Form 4473 if it’s ignored?” And “Why, given that we are not bothering to prosecute people who lie about being eligible to own guns, is Joe Biden so keen to add new gun-control laws to the books?”

    Over and over again, Joe Biden and his party insist that we need to add more bureaucracy into the gun-buying process. Indeed, were “universal background checks” to be imposed upon the 37 states that have thus far declined to add them, Form 4473 would be a part of every single gun transaction — including, in many cases, wholly non-commercial transactions. Why, if it’s so obviously pointless?

    I do not envy the position that Joe Biden is in with his son. But he is the president of the United States now, and he is using his position to call for much stricter laws to regulate the exercise of an explicit constitutional right. If he wants to show that he is serious — and, more important, if he wants to show that he’s not trying to create a confusing thicket of rules that will end up being enforced capriciously — he should be in favor of investigating and, if necessary, prosecuting his son and his friends. It is a federal felony to lie on Form 4473. Joe Biden supports this. It is a federal felony to possess a gun while one is a drug addict. Joe Biden supports this. It is a federal felony to bring a firearm within one thousand feet of a school. Joe Biden not only supports this, he wrote the law.

    If only Biden knew someone in the White House who could ensure that such violations were more rigorously prosecuted. Surely, it’s just “common sense”?

    “The incident has received scant attention, save for a report on the conservative website The Blaze that focused on the state police decision not to file charges against either Hunter or Hallie.” – Politico

    It is convenient to have friends in high places.

    And, Joe must not know any people of even moderate intelligence or good character.
    https://notthebee.com/article/here-is-joe-biden-calling-his-son-hunter-the-smartest-man-i-know

  32. Neo, sorry about the Magnum Opus – I think I started channeling Nero Wolfe.
    Part 3 got hung up in moderation; too many links I suspect.
    I should have broken it up. It starts like this:

    AesopFan on March 28, 2021 at 12:03 am said:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    This next post is the only other story DuckDuckGo found from 2020….

    If it ever gets out, be sure to read the 5 of them in sequence.

    A couple of addenda, that I missed in the heat of inspiration.

    In November, 2020, Politico was probably just following-up on The Blaze out of curiosity, and had no other sources at that time; they weren’t all that interested in getting dirt on Biden, and didn’t push the FOIA like they would have if pursuing a Trump scion.

    The 2020 gun story source, and the 2020 February computer source are probably the same or allies; both of those stories were intended to influence voters.

    I have no idea why NBC would be the recipient of the leak instead of Fox or one of the right-leaning news outlets other than the NY Post. They would have jumped on it (or pounced, I suppose).

    The 2021 sources for Politico are unlikely to be the 2020 Trump-supporting leakers, but you can bet that those sources knew the earlier stories and what to put forth to get Politico to build on them. The racial slur at the grocery store dock is there for a reason, and came out of “a copy of the police report obtained by POLITICO,” which had been behind a stone wall for 2-plus years and was now magically available.

    Now I’m going to read Shipwrecked Crew and see if I just independently developed his theory, or came up with a different one.

    PS to John McM. –
    “ “Bizarre incident” is Hunter Biden’s middle name,…”
    I love that line too!

  33. AesopFan quoted a NY Post article which among other things stated:

    The Macbook Pro laptop was later seized by the FBI, apparently as part of what Hunter last year said is an investigation into his “tax affairs” by the Delaware US Attorney’s Office.

    Hunter once again is lying. Investigations into potential violations of tax laws are not handled by state USAOs. The are handled by the Tax Division at “Main Justice” (in scare quotes because whatever happens at DoJ HQ might be described as many things, but as is increasingly apparent has nothing to do with justice):

    https://www.justice.gov/tax

    The Tax Division’s mission is to enforce the nation’s tax laws fully, fairly, and consistently, through both criminal and civil litigation, in order to promote voluntary compliance with the tax laws, maintain public confidence in the integrity of the tax system, and promote the sound development of the law.

    The idea being that people who violate the tax code are treated consistently throughout the country.

    If the Delaware USAO is investigating Hunter Biden it’s for his obvious financial crimes extending from his foreign entanglements. Of course, as many as noted [t]he incident did not result in charges or arrests.

    So when the FBI, ATF, and SS got involved there a) was and still is no crime to investigate and b) even if there had been these federal agencies have no jurisdiction over this state crime anyway.

    So I can see the Delaware USAO sticking his nose into things that he has no jurisdiction over as well. As we’ve seen, one of the best ways to cover-up crimes committed by Democrats it to have the Feds investigate it. Hillary Clinton’s illegal server is a classic example. I’ve been peripherally involved in investigations into violations of the Espionage Act. Those investigations always, every single time, lead to other charges. Such as obstruction, when the violator knows someone is onto him or her and tries to destroy the evidence.

    I won’t go into all the obstruction crimes Hillary! and her confidantes committed. Which of course means the conspiracy charge (18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information(g)) would have been a slam dunk. As would have been charges for flagrantly violating the Federal Records Act.

    And of course Comey lied when he claimed a) Hillary! had been merely negligent (18 U.S. Code § 793 (f)) and that no other civilian had been prosecuted for negligence. Therefore it would have been UNFAIR to single Hillary! out for special treatment. Note: they are preparing the propaganda battlefield to provide Hunter with the same defense. Lying on the form is a felony, though prosecutions for it are exceedingly rare.

    Ahh, the old Holder/Gore no controlling legal authority dodge recycled.

    And of course, in Hillary!’s case Comey lied about the crime she committed. It wasn’t negligence; the fact that she hired persons with no security clearances to build and maintain an illegal server means she violated an entirely different section (18 U.S. Code § 793 (b)) of the Espionage Act. She acted intentionally and willfully, and civilians ARE prosecuted for that.

    But to cover up her crimes a lot of lies had to be told. And the only reason Comey was personally involved in the investigation was to make sure no “overzealous” (i.e. conscientious) investigator followed the obvious evidence and expanded the investigation to include all Clinton’s/Mills’/Abedin’s/etc. obvious federal felonies.

    That could well be why the Delaware USAO is involved in Hunter Biden’s “tax affairs.” It’s possible this federal prosecutor and those who work in that office are straight shooters. In which case I hope they have their resumes updated and out in circulation as they’ll go the same way the Ukrainian prosecutor went he crossed the Biden crime family.

    But if they are only investigating Hunter Biden’s taxes that means, by definition, it’s a cover-up.

  34. For a change I’m going to try and keep things short.

    I made a typo; Hillary! provably violated 18 U.S. Code § 793 (d), not subparagraph (b). She may have violated that subparagraph, but it isn’t readily apparent from what Comey revealed in the course of lying about what crimes she committed.

    To clarify; it simply isn’t possible that the Delaware USAO is investigating Hunter Biden for tax code violations. If the USAO opened an investigation simply to cover for the Biden crime family than that means the federal prosecutor injected himself into an area over which he/she has no jurisdiction to make sure that investigators don’t follow the evidence and uncover the other financial crimes Hunter committed.

    Like Comey did to pervert the course of justice in Hillary!’s case.

    If in the unlikely event it’s an actual investigation it’s not about Hunter’s taxes.

    Based upon the recent history of the DoJ I strongly suspect it’s a Potemkin investigation.

    The DNC, their minions in the deep state, and their propagandists in the MFM seem to be all in on getting in front of certain stories to convince the public that Hunter Biden didn’t really do anything seriously wrong in this gun purchase/disposal case. Indeed they’re holding out the possibility he didn’t lie on the ATF form. But we already know he lied to procure a false appointment as a naval officer when he had to stipulate to the details of his drug use history and had to attest to the fact he was clean and sober when he sought the drug use/drug test waiver.

    He tested dirty two weeks after he was commissioned.

    Lying about one’s qualifications to serve constitutes fraud and that’s a felony (Article 83 – Fraudulent enlistment, appointment, or separation). There’s no question he lied, and there’s no question he was administratively separated for using drugs which is by definition serious misconduct. There are different types of administrative discharges, to be determined by the admin sep board.

    One might get a general discharge for failing a random drug test, perhaps even a general under honorable conditions if the member has an otherwise exemplary record. Someone like Hunter who fails the UA on their very first day on the new job never gets better than a general discharge, period.

    Someone who lied about their drug use to get a waiver and tests dirty on their first drill weekend? Particularly someone who is supposed to be an officer and a gentleman? They may not be prosecuted for the felony of procuring a false appointment, but they’re not going to get a kiss goodbye. That’s always a general discharge under less than honorable conditions at least.

    Here’s another potential scandal. And now we’re supposed to believe someone who knowingly lied to secure a waiver to get a rare direct commission into the Navy didn’t knowingly lie about his addictions to illegally purchase a firearm?

    They’re not even trying to hide their contempt for us.

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