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  1. Federal court upholds EPA’s global warming rules

    A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld the first-ever regulations aimed at reducing the gases blamed for global warming.

    A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington said that the Environmental Protection Agency was “unambiguously correct” in using existing federal law to address global warming, denying two of the challenges to four separate regulations and dismissing the others.

    The ruling is perhaps the most significant to come out on the issue since 2007, when the Supreme Court found that greenhouse gases could be controlled as air pollutants under the Clean Air Act, a step the Bush administration had resisted.

    just think of the revolution in law if expert science doesnt have to be valid, then all that feminist crap becomes ok… so does the race crap, and so on.

    EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson called the ruling a “strong validation” of the approach the agency has taken.

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    Carol Browner, Obama’s former energy and climate adviser, said the decision “should put an end, once and for all, to any questions about the EPA’s legal authority to protect us from dangerous industrial carbon pollution,” adding that it was a “devastating blow” to those who challenge the scientific evidence of climate change.

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    “This is how science works,” the unsigned opinion said. “EPA is not required to re-prove the existence of the atom every time it approaches a scientific question.”

    Go Lysenkoists GO!!!

    Lysenko did not apply actual science. He was a proponent of the ideas of Ivan Vladimirovich Michurin, and practiced a form of Lamarckism, insisting on the change in species among plants through hybridization and grafting, as well as a variety of other non-genetic techniques. With this came, most importantly, the implication that acquired characteristics of an organism – for example, the state of being leafless as a result of having been plucked – could be inherited by that organism’s descendants.

    On August 7, 1948, the V.I. Lenin Academy of Agricultural Sciences announced that from that point on Lysenkoism would be taught as “the only correct theory”. Soviet scientists were forced to denounce any work that contradicted Lysenko’s research.[3] Criticism of Lysenko was denounced as ‘bourgeois’ or ‘fascist’, and analogous ‘non-bourgeois’ theories also flourished in other fields in the Soviet academy at this time (see Japhetic theory; socialist realism). Interestingly, perhaps the only opponents of Lysenkoism during Stalin’s lifetime to escape liquidation came from the small community of Soviet nuclear physicists. But as Tony Judt has observed, “Stalin left his nuclear physicists alone… [He] may well have been mad but he was not stupid.”

    nope… we are not repeating history, right?

    cant tell if you dont know it.

  2. Citing a “Schoolhouse Rock” video, the judges in their opinion reminded petitioners that “It’s not easy to become a law.” They even provided a link to the popular video that explains how bills become laws.

    “We have serious doubts as to whether … it is ever ‘likely’ that Congress will enact legislation at all,” they said.

  3. Right on, Artfidgr! This reminds me of a line in one of Alfred Hitchock’s best early movies, “The Lady Vanishes” (1938), when Dr. Egon Hartz replies to Iris, who suggests he will “have to think of a fresh theory”: “My theory was a perfectly good one, the facts were misleading.”

  4. “the old trick of turning every contingency into a resource for accumulating force in the government” – 1794, James Madison

    Not only is the science not settled, it’s not even science. The next crisis I take seriously will be based on computer models that call for less government.

  5. It’s been said that conservatives don’t trust science.
    In reality, they’re sceptical of certain claims. MMR vaccine causes autism. That’s science. The Lancet told us so.
    My mother had an old “Story of Nations” from which she taught in the early Forties. Right there, Peking Man, Piltdown, Neanderthal, Cro Magnon. Science. The version I studied from omitted Piltdown, but until then, it was science.
    Check out the Worm Runner’s Digest. Based on the proposition that if you train planaria to follow a maze, and then grind up the honor students and feed them to the next class, the next class can follow the maze without training. Cool. The publication was full of studies and stats, and was known for irreverent satire. Pretty big stuff for that area of biology. Then it was discovered that the grad students hadn’t been cleaning the trays and the second cohort of planaria were following the slime trails of their unfortunate but tasty predecessors. But until then, it was science and only creationists or something didn’t agree with U-Mich that it was science.

    ‘scuse me for not taking your word for the counterintuitve, okay?

  6. Ha! The only reason I was aware of the word “boffins” is that I used to watch the Cosgrove/Hall cartoon “Danger Mouse” (a British cartoon about a globe-trotting secret agent and detective who, yes, happens to be a mouse — he lives in a pillar box just outside 221B Baker Street) on Nickelodeon back in my apparently-not-as-misspent-as-I’d-thought youth.

    As for the actual topic: “Science is a system of statements based on direct experience and controlled by experimental verification.” (Rudolf Carnap.) If your “experimental verification” doesn’t back up your “system of statements”, here’s a news flash for you: That thing you’re trying to make me believe? IT AIN’T SCIENCE.

  7. As Artfldgr points out, they are using the courts to create laws (regulations). The Endangered Species Act (ESA) was an anti-democratic law that is used by the Greens to impose their version of utopia on the rest of us. Try to build a house, fill in a low spot, drill a well, water your grass, or some other common human activity that some Green activist disagrees with. They can can claim that you are harming some species of animal or plant and go to a friendly court for an injunction. It then becomes your burden to prove (and it is always expensive to do so) that the species will not be harmed by your activity. Thus are they slowly strangling human activity. AGW is just an extension of the ESA as a tool to corral everyone into the prison of big government regulation.

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