In my view the” “Super committee” was merely a gimmick to not do anything but to buy time–i.e. if the committee failed to come to any agreement the draconian, automatic, across the board cuts would come in 2013, after the election in 2012.
And when the names of those chosen on the Democratic side were announced, I knew that the Democrats had guaranteed that no agreement would be reached, because the members named were a crew of some of the most brain dead, clueless, hard left ideologues among the Democrats in Congress, among them Washington State Senator Patty Murray, possessor of a degree in “recreation” –thought by many to be in the running for the title “dumbest member of Congress.” Here, for instance, was Murray’s take, right after 9/11, on Osama Bin Laden’s “popularity”:
“He’s been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health-care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. He’s made their lives better.”
Who knew, Bin Laden and Day Care Centers.
Also on the committee were Vietnam War Hero Jean Francois Kerry, the race-baiting, hard left James Clyburn, Xavier Becerra, Max Baucus, and Chris Van Hollen.
Washington State Senator Patty Murray, possessor of a degree in “recreation” –thought by many to be in the running for the title “dumbest member of Congress.”
Murray should face off with Boxer. It’d be the Dumb-Off equivalent of Ali-Frazier.
Disagree. The centerpiece of Obama’s reelection pitch is Obama vs the Meenie Do Nothing GOP Congress. Good vs Evil. The Super Committee Dems have simply played their part in Obama’s farce.
Of course, this strategy will only work if the people are distracted into forgetting that Obama’s own party controls the Senate….
The whole subject strikes deep into my DGAS zone.
There are two political parties. The evil party and the stupid party. And they keep on demonstrating that fact.
Partially agreed. We have a president who neither knows or understands anything about the country he is supposedly leading. Despite what his birth certificate might say he is an alien in any meaningful sense of the word.
We have a Congress, both houses and both parties, who worry more about the next election than the next generation. They refuse to lead and won’t get out of the way so others might.
We have an American public who think that federal spending should be cut. Except, of course, for that particular program or programs from which they personally benefit.
There is plenty of blame to go around. And our heirs will rightfully curse us one day for allowing this to happen.
What’s to agree or disagree? It’s a report by Jeb H. on the Supercommittee’s internal mumblings and grumblings. Kinda like listening to bowel sounds.
The Supercommittee was a Superfraud, a Superbad idea, going out the gate. The only good news is that not one of the six Stupid party members caved. A near thing, that.
How can they not do what they were specifically set up to do, even if it was a farce in the first place? And why do we continue to let them? Who works for whom?
Any one who stays home next election that I find out about, and I’m whipping their ass.
Don Carlos: By asking if you agree or disagree, one of the things I’m trying to get at is whether you think the report bears any resemblance to what really happened.
Jeb is much too charitable.
Sorry, Neo; I’m fresh out of divinations and speculations. His report is his report, and I was not a fly on the wall.
Speak not the gloom
the place of doom
of wretched arms
mens and maidens
appetite harms
their own children
and palls the walls
of the mansions
where beloved calls
The failure was intentional just as the failure of the jobs bill was intentional; the intent was to propose actions that were already opposition non-starters and then blame oppostion for failure. In that sense, the (in)action was a complete success.
Once in a while the dead horse must be whipped…
“There is plenty of blame to go around. And our heirs will rightfully curse us one day for allowing this to happen.”
The debt debate is a sham. It is meaningless. Cutting 120 or 150 billion per year from a baseline 3.7 trillion budget that borrows 1.4 trillion from tomorrow to pay for today is simply another layer of mascara on the eyelashes of a syphilitic whore. We are on the verge of becoming Greece on steroids. We are on the verge of the greatest collapse since the days when the barbarians stormed the gates of Rome. Few have the guts to face this reality, including many who post comments here. IMO, it is not hyperbole to state the new dark age approaches.
Its always lonely to be Cassandra.
Many many share your foreboding, Parker, so you are not alone.
Perhaps what is sustaining us still, despite there being a sense of not knowing where we are, is that the loaners don’t want collapse. The borrowers, that is the ones who have lapped up the free meals, do want collapse, and then, in their minds, free stuff for everyone.
There is a lot of capital out there and it wants to do what capital does: create, generate, explore, build, manufacture . . . and the sorrow is that this wealth will be used to defend itself, and after great depletion, look out upon a new world.
I dunno if this is what happened or not. I do think Churchill was right…America will eventually do the right thing. But in my opinion, only after some huge and bad financial crisis occurs.
re what to believe:
We do not necessarily believe or disbelieve. We note: “There is Hensarling’s story; there is John Kerry’s story.” If I had to bet, I would bet on Hensarling’s story. But, I do not have to bet. I can simply take note, and await developments.
re Parker’s comment
A small cut is what is available, now, in this political climate. Therefore, Repubs ought make the small cut which is available, now. In future, Repubs ought make whatever small cut is available at that time. Then rinse and repeat.
Hopefully, at some point in future, Repubs will have the power and the will to make larger cuts.
May I suggest, Parker: join forces with your local Tea Party. At this moment in history, the Tea Parties are the best methods of effecting the changes your are looking for.
I think Jeb was trying to “cover” all bases in his article.
There was a point in the article where he said. “Controlling spending is therefore a crucial challenge.” The words controlling and crucial challenge, IMHO, are incorrect. Dramatically cutting (spending) and imperative action is needed better describe what needs to be done.
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In my view the” “Super committee” was merely a gimmick to not do anything but to buy time–i.e. if the committee failed to come to any agreement the draconian, automatic, across the board cuts would come in 2013, after the election in 2012.
And when the names of those chosen on the Democratic side were announced, I knew that the Democrats had guaranteed that no agreement would be reached, because the members named were a crew of some of the most brain dead, clueless, hard left ideologues among the Democrats in Congress, among them Washington State Senator Patty Murray, possessor of a degree in “recreation” –thought by many to be in the running for the title “dumbest member of Congress.” Here, for instance, was Murray’s take, right after 9/11, on Osama Bin Laden’s “popularity”:
“He’s been out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day-care facilities, building health-care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. He’s made their lives better.”
Who knew, Bin Laden and Day Care Centers.
Also on the committee were Vietnam War Hero Jean Francois Kerry, the race-baiting, hard left James Clyburn, Xavier Becerra, Max Baucus, and Chris Van Hollen.
Washington State Senator Patty Murray, possessor of a degree in “recreation” –thought by many to be in the running for the title “dumbest member of Congress.”
Murray should face off with Boxer. It’d be the Dumb-Off equivalent of Ali-Frazier.
Disagree. The centerpiece of Obama’s reelection pitch is Obama vs the Meenie Do Nothing GOP Congress. Good vs Evil. The Super Committee Dems have simply played their part in Obama’s farce.
Of course, this strategy will only work if the people are distracted into forgetting that Obama’s own party controls the Senate….
The whole subject strikes deep into my DGAS zone.
There are two political parties. The evil party and the stupid party. And they keep on demonstrating that fact.
Partially agreed. We have a president who neither knows or understands anything about the country he is supposedly leading. Despite what his birth certificate might say he is an alien in any meaningful sense of the word.
We have a Congress, both houses and both parties, who worry more about the next election than the next generation. They refuse to lead and won’t get out of the way so others might.
We have an American public who think that federal spending should be cut. Except, of course, for that particular program or programs from which they personally benefit.
There is plenty of blame to go around. And our heirs will rightfully curse us one day for allowing this to happen.
What’s to agree or disagree? It’s a report by Jeb H. on the Supercommittee’s internal mumblings and grumblings. Kinda like listening to bowel sounds.
The Supercommittee was a Superfraud, a Superbad idea, going out the gate. The only good news is that not one of the six Stupid party members caved. A near thing, that.
How can they not do what they were specifically set up to do, even if it was a farce in the first place? And why do we continue to let them? Who works for whom?
Any one who stays home next election that I find out about, and I’m whipping their ass.
Don Carlos: By asking if you agree or disagree, one of the things I’m trying to get at is whether you think the report bears any resemblance to what really happened.
Jeb is much too charitable.
Sorry, Neo; I’m fresh out of divinations and speculations. His report is his report, and I was not a fly on the wall.
Speak not the gloom
the place of doom
of wretched arms
mens and maidens
appetite harms
their own children
and palls the walls
of the mansions
where beloved calls
The failure was intentional just as the failure of the jobs bill was intentional; the intent was to propose actions that were already opposition non-starters and then blame oppostion for failure. In that sense, the (in)action was a complete success.
Once in a while the dead horse must be whipped…
“There is plenty of blame to go around. And our heirs will rightfully curse us one day for allowing this to happen.”
The debt debate is a sham. It is meaningless. Cutting 120 or 150 billion per year from a baseline 3.7 trillion budget that borrows 1.4 trillion from tomorrow to pay for today is simply another layer of mascara on the eyelashes of a syphilitic whore. We are on the verge of becoming Greece on steroids. We are on the verge of the greatest collapse since the days when the barbarians stormed the gates of Rome. Few have the guts to face this reality, including many who post comments here. IMO, it is not hyperbole to state the new dark age approaches.
Its always lonely to be Cassandra.
Many many share your foreboding, Parker, so you are not alone.
Perhaps what is sustaining us still, despite there being a sense of not knowing where we are, is that the loaners don’t want collapse. The borrowers, that is the ones who have lapped up the free meals, do want collapse, and then, in their minds, free stuff for everyone.
There is a lot of capital out there and it wants to do what capital does: create, generate, explore, build, manufacture . . . and the sorrow is that this wealth will be used to defend itself, and after great depletion, look out upon a new world.
I dunno if this is what happened or not. I do think Churchill was right…America will eventually do the right thing. But in my opinion, only after some huge and bad financial crisis occurs.
re what to believe:
We do not necessarily believe or disbelieve. We note: “There is Hensarling’s story; there is John Kerry’s story.” If I had to bet, I would bet on Hensarling’s story. But, I do not have to bet. I can simply take note, and await developments.
re Parker’s comment
A small cut is what is available, now, in this political climate. Therefore, Repubs ought make the small cut which is available, now. In future, Repubs ought make whatever small cut is available at that time. Then rinse and repeat.
Hopefully, at some point in future, Repubs will have the power and the will to make larger cuts.
May I suggest, Parker: join forces with your local Tea Party. At this moment in history, the Tea Parties are the best methods of effecting the changes your are looking for.
I think Jeb was trying to “cover” all bases in his article.
There was a point in the article where he said. “Controlling spending is therefore a crucial challenge.” The words controlling and crucial challenge, IMHO, are incorrect. Dramatically cutting (spending) and imperative action is needed better describe what needs to be done.