Let’s hope it becomes more and more commonplace. It requires an open mind, a commodity that’s always been scarce.
Went down to the mailbox just after posting the above comment and found the 2 copies of David Mamet’s “The Secret Knowledge” that I had ordered. Why 2 copies? One is for myself, the other is for any liberal that I happen to meet who might actually read it. I know, I know … don’t hold my breath but you never know …
another one bites the dust
hmmm. maybe I should make a youtube video…
Then the state would be after me. 🙁
That was fantastic. Thank you Neo for posting it and thank you Artfldgr for finding it.
What could this country be capable of if most of our citizens were like this?
I’ve been noticing a strange change — call it the “new silent majority” — around my hometown (*deep* in blue state territory): when a still-loyal proponent of the president’s policies begins a public defense on his policies, I see the nominal audience neither argue nor agree. They’re just mute — as if they’re afraid to state their opposition (or regret for prior support) and opt to just look skeptical or nod politely.
This has happened several times and my pet theory is these are independent voters rethinking their choice. I’m probably projecting — at least to a degree — but they’re certainly not chiming in and echoing the idiotic hope-and-change mantra like they did three years ago.
Valjean:
I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon. My “change” happened in the mid to late 90s, and I know a number of people who are still liberal. They know I voted for Bush twice, and for eight years I got plenty of anti-Bush jokes and e-mails.
I tried to warn them about Obama, but they voted for him anyway. Since his election, I no longer have any interest in discussing politics with them. We can get along as long as we’re talking about subjects like music, baseball, or things like that.
What’s interesting is that I don’t see them bringing up politics either.
This young lady really gets it!
“Freedom implies personal empowerment, freedom implies responsibility and control over one’s destiny. The greatness of America is not about equal income or equal property. The greatness of America is about equal opportunity….. try as any government may none will ever be able to manufacture equality because it does not exist naturally…”
Bravo!
I saw this video featured on another blog this afternoon and quickly forwarded it to four people: three of whom mostly agree with me politically, and the fourth was a friend from childhood who is pretty conservative in practice (gun owner with little tolerance for p.c. nonsense), but who grew up in a liberal household and is unable to shake off the yoke of many liberal beliefs. (I don’t believe he’s ever voted for a Republican. He keeps trying to convince himself that the Democrats are reasonable.)
What could this country be capable of if most of our citizens were like this?
What we used to be capable of…
(before the ladies and other social groups improved things in a more pc equalist way)
When I look at what Conservatives have to offer, Obama edges me back to the Left.
Unfortunately, this woman “awakened” only in the matter impinging on her daily life. Bob Parks at Black & Right interviewed her a few days ago. She still buys leftist ideas and uses hypothetical people to back them up (e.g. she thinks it’s fine if a hypothetical lesbian wants “to marry ten women” – ignoring that it’s not lesbians but men of a particular religion who want that, and that our current system would allow the women to claim their husband’s SSI benefits).
But it’s a start.
@onyo–the only problem is, eventually non-Conservatives will run out of other people’s money to offer you. Well, that’s not the only problem…
I used to prefer the policies of the Left because they were kind and considerate and compassionate, and FREE. Conservatives were such meanies and intolerant–they didn’t even want to let you do whatever you want.
And then I grew up, so to speak. I realized that ideas have consequences, i.e. you cannot disdain moral values and then lament societal erosion. I realized that capitalism thrives not on greed, but on providing value. I realized that more people died in the last century at the hands of their OWN governments than at the hands of any foreign oppressors.
Government is like radiation therapy: too much is bad and too little is also bad. The hard part is determining just the right amount, and my beef with Liberals is that they seem all too reticent to admit that it is even possible to have too much government. It is naive to think that simply having the right people in power is all that is needed (especially when who are the ‘right’ people is determined by what they have to offer you…) If non-Conservatives could step to the plate and articulate how they intend to make sure that we get just the right amount of government involvement and not too much, I’d be much more inclined to listen attentively. But when all I hear is “more! more! more!” with no plan to either pay for it all or prevent collateral damage, I start to do crazy things like vote for McCain.
I hope you can see where I’m coming from…
One note; we often get it wrong by saying lending to low income people was ‘the’ cause of the housing bubble. That problem was, as the speaker said, the start of it. Once the system didn’t crash due to that (low lending standard for the poor); it was expanded to the middle class (via GSE policies).
The poor, logically, can only cause limited damage in that even a house they can hardly afford will still have to be on the inexpensive side. The bad middle class loans really caused the bubble. Some republicans were also on board for the easy money policies.
onyo Says:
“When I look at what Conservatives have to offer, Obama edges me back to the Left.”
Yeah, they don’t offer you other people’s stuff.
Lame-R Says:
“If non-Conservatives could step to the plate and articulate how they intend to make sure that we get just the right amount of government involvement and not too much”
Yeah, and conservatives being totally against any government or regulation is not true… So I think many of us provide an actual balance in that… Everytime I hear about a building burning down in Russia with a lot of deaths, or walk the side walks in Mexico (they’re all messed up / conform to no standards), or hear about problems in China with food… I am glad we have some government. I also think Social Security for poor people is a good a idea (but not for 10-30 years). Et cetera…
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Let’s hope it becomes more and more commonplace. It requires an open mind, a commodity that’s always been scarce.
Went down to the mailbox just after posting the above comment and found the 2 copies of David Mamet’s “The Secret Knowledge” that I had ordered. Why 2 copies? One is for myself, the other is for any liberal that I happen to meet who might actually read it. I know, I know … don’t hold my breath but you never know …
another one bites the dust
hmmm. maybe I should make a youtube video…
Then the state would be after me. 🙁
That was fantastic. Thank you Neo for posting it and thank you Artfldgr for finding it.
What could this country be capable of if most of our citizens were like this?
I’ve been noticing a strange change — call it the “new silent majority” — around my hometown (*deep* in blue state territory): when a still-loyal proponent of the president’s policies begins a public defense on his policies, I see the nominal audience neither argue nor agree. They’re just mute — as if they’re afraid to state their opposition (or regret for prior support) and opt to just look skeptical or nod politely.
This has happened several times and my pet theory is these are independent voters rethinking their choice. I’m probably projecting — at least to a degree — but they’re certainly not chiming in and echoing the idiotic hope-and-change mantra like they did three years ago.
Valjean:
I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon. My “change” happened in the mid to late 90s, and I know a number of people who are still liberal. They know I voted for Bush twice, and for eight years I got plenty of anti-Bush jokes and e-mails.
I tried to warn them about Obama, but they voted for him anyway. Since his election, I no longer have any interest in discussing politics with them. We can get along as long as we’re talking about subjects like music, baseball, or things like that.
What’s interesting is that I don’t see them bringing up politics either.
This young lady really gets it!
“Freedom implies personal empowerment, freedom implies responsibility and control over one’s destiny. The greatness of America is not about equal income or equal property. The greatness of America is about equal opportunity….. try as any government may none will ever be able to manufacture equality because it does not exist naturally…”
Bravo!
I saw this video featured on another blog this afternoon and quickly forwarded it to four people: three of whom mostly agree with me politically, and the fourth was a friend from childhood who is pretty conservative in practice (gun owner with little tolerance for p.c. nonsense), but who grew up in a liberal household and is unable to shake off the yoke of many liberal beliefs. (I don’t believe he’s ever voted for a Republican. He keeps trying to convince himself that the Democrats are reasonable.)
What could this country be capable of if most of our citizens were like this?
What we used to be capable of…
(before the ladies and other social groups improved things in a more pc equalist way)
When I look at what Conservatives have to offer, Obama edges me back to the Left.
Unfortunately, this woman “awakened” only in the matter impinging on her daily life. Bob Parks at Black & Right interviewed her a few days ago. She still buys leftist ideas and uses hypothetical people to back them up (e.g. she thinks it’s fine if a hypothetical lesbian wants “to marry ten women” – ignoring that it’s not lesbians but men of a particular religion who want that, and that our current system would allow the women to claim their husband’s SSI benefits).
But it’s a start.
@onyo–the only problem is, eventually non-Conservatives will run out of other people’s money to offer you. Well, that’s not the only problem…
I used to prefer the policies of the Left because they were kind and considerate and compassionate, and FREE. Conservatives were such meanies and intolerant–they didn’t even want to let you do whatever you want.
And then I grew up, so to speak. I realized that ideas have consequences, i.e. you cannot disdain moral values and then lament societal erosion. I realized that capitalism thrives not on greed, but on providing value. I realized that more people died in the last century at the hands of their OWN governments than at the hands of any foreign oppressors.
Government is like radiation therapy: too much is bad and too little is also bad. The hard part is determining just the right amount, and my beef with Liberals is that they seem all too reticent to admit that it is even possible to have too much government. It is naive to think that simply having the right people in power is all that is needed (especially when who are the ‘right’ people is determined by what they have to offer you…) If non-Conservatives could step to the plate and articulate how they intend to make sure that we get just the right amount of government involvement and not too much, I’d be much more inclined to listen attentively. But when all I hear is “more! more! more!” with no plan to either pay for it all or prevent collateral damage, I start to do crazy things like vote for McCain.
I hope you can see where I’m coming from…
One note; we often get it wrong by saying lending to low income people was ‘the’ cause of the housing bubble. That problem was, as the speaker said, the start of it. Once the system didn’t crash due to that (low lending standard for the poor); it was expanded to the middle class (via GSE policies).
The poor, logically, can only cause limited damage in that even a house they can hardly afford will still have to be on the inexpensive side. The bad middle class loans really caused the bubble. Some republicans were also on board for the easy money policies.
onyo Says:
“When I look at what Conservatives have to offer, Obama edges me back to the Left.”
Yeah, they don’t offer you other people’s stuff.
Lame-R Says:
“If non-Conservatives could step to the plate and articulate how they intend to make sure that we get just the right amount of government involvement and not too much”
Yeah, and conservatives being totally against any government or regulation is not true… So I think many of us provide an actual balance in that… Everytime I hear about a building burning down in Russia with a lot of deaths, or walk the side walks in Mexico (they’re all messed up / conform to no standards), or hear about problems in China with food… I am glad we have some government. I also think Social Security for poor people is a good a idea (but not for 10-30 years). Et cetera…