Scary skinny
I remember model Twiggy. She was thin:
And then Kate Moss, ditto:
But this is getting ridiculous. And scary, too, if this woman’s body is seen as something to emulate. America’s Top Model? Perish the thought:
Here’s another photo, in case you think that one’s a fluke:
Come to think of it, though, she’s not really significantly thinner than Twiggy. She’s just taller—a lot taller (6’2″ vs. Twiggy’s 5’6″). Her height gives her an exceptionally elongated look that exaggerates her exceptional thinness (correction: emaciation).
[Hat tip: Althouse.]
Ok, that chick is just scary looking.
ah, between her and patrons of fast food joints I with my 132lb & 5’3″ feel like a total freak…
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to just put a coat hanger on a vertical bar with rolling wheels underneath it?
Seriously, this girl looks like she needs an intervention.
There is something really wrong with reaching for such absolute an asexual “look”.
Ugh – agree with Scottie, a wire hanger on a vertical bar with wheels underneath would serve just as well.
She looks just … grotesque, like she is morphing into some kind of human praying mantis.
You have to be mentally ill to do that to yourself. It’s a form of self mutilation in my view.
Are we sure that black garment she’s wearing isn’t a corset? That artificial indentation under the ribs makes me think of Scarlett O’Hara clinging to the bedpost while Mammy yanked on her corset laces, trying to preserve that famous 17 inch waist — only it looked an awful lot better on Vivien Leigh!
Here’s a good picture of the corseted silhouette:
http://www.victoriana.com/corsets/corseting.htm
She needs a sammich STAT!!
Good God.
I wonder how many of these scarecrows will live till their 35 birthday?
Too skinny for me. Emaciation- or the Ichabod Crane look- should never be in.
Granted, some people are naturally skinny. My uncle once picked up a hitchhiker who asked my uncle for a cigarette. My uncle replied that he had given up smoking. The reply came back, “Looks like you gave up eating, too.”
But there is no point trying to emulate that.
Mrs Whatsit,
That may actually be something of an optical illusion as her hips are wider in comparison to the rest of her body.
Basically, she is wayyyy below her ideal body weight as even her pelvic bone is jutting noticeably.
If her body weight were anywhere near normal, I don’t believe you’d be able to see her bones sticking out so blatantly.
Genetics built her bones for a specific body type, and she looks like she’s starved herself down to bare skeleton which is why her bones are now so noticeable.
Perhaps our lovely hostess with the mostest would consider juxtaposing this model’s photo with that of one of the holocaust camp survivors?
Not to make light of the survivor, of course – but simply to illustrate exactly what an extremely malnourished person would look like in comparison to this poor girl.
I believe the similarities may be frightening.
Seriously, this girl needs help.
Babys got Torso.
I loved Twiggy, but at 13 or so years old, forty+ years ago, I stuck to copying the haircut and Yardley lipstick..I played alot of sports, loved my mom’s cooking, and never tried to starve myself to that weight ! EEEEKKKK
Mrs Whatsit,
Didn’t those corsets cause the vapors? Maybe that’s what was wrong with the Harvard prof who attacked Larry Sommers over the intelligence question.
There’s a dynamic that says if some is good, more is better. If that’s the way some people are going, I’m going further.
So she’s horribly emaciated.
To what end?
Other than the notoriety gained from hanging your latest creation on a grotesque, what’s in hiring her for a designer?
A week with Queen Mishelle would put meat on her bones and fat in her……
I wouldn’t call her emaciated. Look at her arms and legs – bones aren’t readily visible.
Yes, I would ply her with
doublesingle bacon cheeseburgers and introduce her to the pleasures of eating and work up to doubles, but she’s simply not a big woman, just tall.Oh, and milk shakes. And icee’s.
I played alot of sports, loved my mom’s cooking, and never tried to starve myself to that weight !
Why would anyone even consider doing so? If it’s for masculine approval, don’t bother – men don’t find the Dachau escapee look the slightest bit appealing.
Come to that, and following that great thinker Sir Mix-A-Lot, the few runway models I’ve seen are, in my opinion, generally unattractive. Besides being emaciated, they’re often kind of peculiar-looking (I assume they’re selected for this), and invariably looked pissed off (which I assume they’re told to do, much like affecting that odd knock-kneed walk).
In fact, I’ve never heard any man ever say he found one of them attractive. Ever.
Occam, that is what I hear from the real guys that I talk to in the real world. I was tall an thin as a young teenager (but never that thin) and I had large amounts of health problems associated with it. I got bouts of hypoglycemia and faintness when I went 2 hrs without eating, I was cold all the time, tired all the time, got sick a lot, had terrible charley horses. You get the idea. It was not fun and seeing someone that thin reminds me of it. I can’t imagine they are too healthy that way.
I have never understood why so many fashion models (especially those on the runway) don’t smile. Smiling seems to be OK when other products are advertised, but not clothing.
Why? Does a serious (or downright “pissed off”) expression make the clothes look better?
Not in my book.
What does she model, umbrella covers?
As I recall little twiggy grew up and filled out and she was (is?) not at all hard on he eyes. She played John Belucci’s M-16 wielding girlfriend in the Blues Brothers.
When I was 18 a man could put his hand around my waist. I wasn’t straving by any means either.
If you squint your eyes and pretend that the picture is in black and white, you’d swear she was just liberated from a concentration camp.
That grimaced expression in models is the venerable socialist woman look. Shows the nuanced struggle shes endured through capitalist oppression that so cheated her from naturally looking like a third world peasant.
What am I supposed to do with that !?
Both height and bone structure play a *large* part here.
So the Twiggy thing – not really my cup of tea (in another thread I indicated I prefer what most would call “fat”), but I wouldn’t blink an eye for someone that looked like that.
OTOH the top model woman, it’s *unattractive*. Not only because of her height but she also is at least medium boned and has the same waist as someone MUCH shorter and with a MUCH smaller skeletal frame.
I know from my own experience that I am fit and trim at 220 or so, I have to start loosing muscle mass to get below that. I do not know what Twiggy weighed in that photo but while IMO she could certainly gain some weight I wouldn’t call her emaciated, dessicated, or any other derogatory term. Kate Moss falls into the same category too – little to no body fat but not really loosing muscle mass.
The top model woman literally looks like she came out of a WWII German Concentration camp – if she wore their clothes and was a black and white photo I do not think any of us would question it.
I can’t figure out *why* that is in vogue now, I can’t understand how *anyone* looks at that and thinks “Wow – she is beautiful and I think she would sell my clothes better than anyone else”.
I just had another scary thought – they say the camera adds 10 pounds……
She’s got no muscle at all, which is a large part of the problem.
I certainly like them “slender” myself, most would think “too slender” — but she’s too thin even by my standards. The height plays into it, certainly, but not that far.
Unlike Twiggy, SHE actually meets the name.
Monroe and Twiggy both have the SAME waist to hip ratio… since we cant measure with our eyes, we use proportions, NOT absolutes.
however, she was ‘picked’ to promote a pre-pubescent homosexual, androgynous look.
women have decided that GAY men know what other men want, and since the 60s the men and lesbians have been serving their own purposes, not the purposes of their gullible and not so bright, but believe their geniuses clientele
when you let the mentality of a drag queen, and sexual extremists (sans limits), is it any real wonder that women, gullible and monolithic as they are, would end up looking like the most extreme type of hooker that used to cost huge amounts extra?
they went from claiming sexual objects, to actually becoming extreme sexual objects that only THEY pay attention to.
IE. women ahve become herd animals, who rather than deny their animus and supress it for more human qualities like skill, intelligence, ability, personality, etc.
a commedian on HBO (sorry, never found out the name since i was flipping chanels), came on stage and told the men in the audience to be quiet as he had a question for the ‘ladies’. this was an auditorium of a couple of thousand people.
he asked (with my cleaning it up a bit for discussion – it doesnt detract from the point)
“ladies, if you were not allowed to use your ‘sex’ or your mouths to please your man, what would you do to keep him happy?
Silence
then he pushed a bit telling them come on ladies, you have nothing?
then someone said ‘anal’, another said, hands…
he then said… thats it?
silence.
then came the punch line…
he said:
“whatever happened to cook him a good meal? go to the movies? travel? play pool, go to a sporting event, and all that?”
Silence
he said:
“ladies, you ALL just reduced yourselves to three holes”
but dont tell them that! they are liberated, tattooed, barren, superior, wordly, set of three holes… and are proud of it.
meanwhile, feminism likes the burka as a solution to the hostile male gaze spoken of by the french philosophers opposing the enlightenment.
we moved from animal, to enlightened, only to have the ruling class, through women, make us animals again…
cause only women could oppose their mates without a fight, and they would comply.
when women wanted society: men made it
when women want state slavery, barren lives, no family, communism: guess what men make for them?
but women have no power, right?
[whatever you do, don’t tell the king that he has power, if he finds out, then we cant use that power without interference. right? its all in the history books, which they revisionism. last night i heard a feminist claim 100,000 women were killed during the witch hunts. the catholic church opened up the records and let all know the real number. 300 and not just women. the actual number is .3% of what feminists say it is…]
WHR is considered to be factor in a person’s attractiveness. Women with a 0.7 WHR (waist circumference being 70% of the hip circumference) are often rated as more attractive by men regardless of culture, race, religion or ethnicity
but we are all equal women say, and our biology is nothing but culturally determined (besides that, men are just being evil)
Men’s preferences for women’s profile waist-to-hip ratio in two societies
Frank MarloweT, Coren Apicella, Dorian Reed
Department of Anthropology, Harvard University
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hbe-lab/acrobatfiles/profilewhr.pdf
Such diverse beauty icons as Marilyn Monroe, Twiggy, Sophia Loren, Kate Moss, Salma Hayek and even the Venus de Milo all have ratios around 0.7, even though they have significantly different weights. Congruent with an evolutionary perspective, evidence suggests that humans use subtle biological cues, such as WHR, to indicate mate potential and fertility.
also, the early onset of menses is a biological reaction to biological father absence. but they wont let you read that as they are trying to blame modern society (such superior Luddites).
AND, in terms of obesity, biological father presence ALSO can mitigate preader willi… (a genetic condition where the person gets real fat)
that is, if dad the provider is gone, girls mature earlier and are more sexualized (see luckaks to understand this is the goal for the slave/victim class), and they tend to store more energy and use it for early maturity, rather than slower growth, higher intelligence, etc. [they also dont let you know in great detail that peri menopause and fertility decline starts at around 25… NOT in the 30s… and that the older we have kids, the more likely they are sociopathic, hyper, suffer downs syndrome, and aspergers/kanner type autism]
its a brave new world improved by women…
who serve a man named marx, and engels, and harmon
and funny thing?
too stupid to look to the countries they claim have the political systems they claim will set them free!
if they did they would perhaps notice that capitalism has set them free, not communism
there is so much supressed literature (like lysenko, and global warming, etc… all active measures to define science and then take over our respect for it, and use it to control the masses. its called scientific socialsm, others call it communism…
Scientific Socialism is the term used by Friedrich Engels to describe the social-political-economic theory first pioneered by Karl Marx. The purported reason why this socialism is “scientific socialism” (as opposed to “utopian socialism”) is because its theories are held to an empirical standard, observations are essential to its development, and these can result in changes/falsification of elements of theory.
problem is that science disproves marx, so science has to change… and thats what women have done now that they dominate science, and are more naturally collective.
sad thing is that they have also cooked the books against the men… that is, they never ever competed fairly… and so like ALL MARXISTS, they fix the game, and claim thats how everyone wins.
really?
they get what they deserve in the long run.
no?
Their families and genetic contribution to the future, and the intelligence and creativity inherent, have now burned out like a passing shooting star never to grace reality again. EVER.
the majority on the plan have have been liberated from existence
be careful what you wish for, you may get it…
or
its exactly what you asked for, but was never what you wanted…
personally i dont care either way… exterminte yourselves or not… what do i care? in fact, i dont really give a damn other than getting facts right. so hiding them, changing them, misconstrue them, dissmiliation and all that have little effect on me.
like the memory and other systemizing skills, having autistic skills, but not being autistic gives me a nice advantage in neutrality…
[and if you think i am not neutral about politics, your right. i am never neutral when smart people are tricking less smart people, and not letting them have the lives they were meant to have naturally by their own… so i DO have morals. which is why i say what i say to the ladies. i care not whether they listen or not, as i have fulfilled the moral obligation towards free will and free choice. that is, gave them the information.
eventually demographics will remove them, and the rest of the population left will be more fertile, and more loyal to their genes and the future.
not in my lifetime… but what do i care?
no one gets out alive…
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anyone read lukacks yet?
I am beginning to wonder if this extreme thinness thing stems from middle/upper-middle class liberal guilt. Its as if to say: “I know we have more food/resources than most of the world, but see how I deny myself, and value those that deny themselves, in sympathy with those less fortunate.”
Kate Moss in those pics looks like me in my 20s, except I don’t have the hard face, lol. It used to piss me off that people would get on my case for being naturally small (I did NOT starve myself by any stretch of the imagination, but had a very fast metabolism and small bones) while that was what the fashion industry put out. It was a big WTF for me.
I’ve been called anorexic and emaciated, even though I was never either, and I always wondered why that was less offensive than calling someone a fat pig, followed by dietary suggestions (which I also got, unsolicited, even as a kid! And by kids who were skinnier than I was! WTF?!)
That last girl I can see it – she’s horribly underweight, but probably also young and not really grown into her body yet – but Twiggy was very young and didn’t look unhealthy, same with Kate Moss (although I’ve seen her look pretty weird and unhealthy too in other pics, just that when she started out she was still a teenager and not finished developing. It took me until I was 25 to fill a B-cup bra – and after kids it’s a D, so things do change – now I look more like “fat” Marilyn, but she had nicer boobs, lol).
And hey, at least being skinny when you’re young means you’re less likely to be fat in middle age! I got my revenge, lol. 😉
Thag, being skinny when you are young means that it is all outward from here… no going back to the high school prom dress for us.
I have put on 60 lbs since a high schooler and I am at normal weight and BMI, if that tells you anything. Not that I would miss being that way at all.
I thought that being super-skinny put a lot of unnecessary pressure on me, because everyone kept telling me to dress like a model because I “could” and to “enjoy it while it lasts” (?). Granted, it was women saying those dumb things. Normal weight is a great thing and not to be sneezed at.
Not to be contrarian, being contrarian being contrarian to my normal self….
I checked out some recent BMI data.
My father played football for UConn in 39-43. He was 6’1″, 185. Today, he’s “overweight”. Not bad for the fastest end in the conference.
I was 6″2″ when I graduated from Infantry OCS. In those days, it was like a combination of hell week in a particularly tough fraternity, pre-season football practice, and finals week. Went on for six months. Most days, we got three meals. I weighed 205 and could have whipped a tiger, except if a tiger had looked me in the eye, he’d have slunk away.
Today I would be considered overweight.
We were in such good shape that, after a three week leave over Christmas–drinking and eating and carrying on–that when we returned to the legencary, fearful and wonderful Airborne school, we still found the physical requirements a joke.
One of the insurance companies with whom I do business will give the best rate, the lowest premium class, to those who have it all going on and are no more than 234 at 6’2″. IOW, the folks who have skin in the game are thirty pounds more generous than the feds with their frequently modified bmi tables.
IMO, it’s fodder for the next crisis requiring intrusion and taxes and “programs”.