On Bin Laden’s youngest wife
I was wondering where she was and how she’s doing. Here’s a report.
Her name is Amal Ahmed al-Sadah and she is 27. She was shot in the leg during the raid that killed her husband and is recovering in a military hospital in Pakistan, which is refusing to hand her over to the US.
Why did the SEALS not take her with them? The official explanation is that there was no room in the helicopter, which seems a little strange to me for such an important capture.
The following is of special interest:
Ms al-Sadah, who is half the age of 54-year-old bin Laden and younger than some of his at least 20 children, had been gifted to the al-Qaeda leader from a Yemeni family when she was just a teenager
She was just 17 when she and Bin Laden wed in Afghanistan. They later had three children together.
Bin Laden had later reportedly sent her home to Yemen for her own safety but somehow she returned despite being under surveillance.
She has already told Pakistani investigators they had been living in the compound since 2005, according to Time magazine.
Of his other wives, bin Laden had divorced one and three others had moved to Syria.
I wonder what this woman really thinks. Most likely she is just as much a fanatic as her husband, indoctrinated pretty much from birth and groomed to be a consort to the great man. But perhaps not.
And I’m wondering who the divorced wife is. This article purports to shed some light on the matter, but I wonder. It’s got a lot of its other facts wrong, based on erroneous early reports from John Brennan that a wife was used by Osama as a human shield and was killed.
But from the information contained therein about Bin Laden’s marriages, it appears that most of his brides were young teenagers, and that two are divorced from him and another reports herself as having been out of contact with him since 9/11. It appears, therefore, that the guy has been forced to live a fairly monogamous life with al-Sadah in recent years. If we can’t interrogate her, that would be really unfortunate.
As for estranged son Omar, here’s a heartwarming story:
“As time passed, [father Osama] began caning me and my brothers for the slightest infraction,” Omar wrote in an excerpt. He recalled his break with his father, which came when Osama asked him to volunteer to be a suicide bomber and Omar refused. Upon demanding how he could ask such a thing of his sons, bin Laden replied, “’You hold no more a place in my heart than any other man or boy in the entire country’”¦ My father hated his enemies more than he loved his sons.”
[ADDENDUM: Unrelated but interesting.]
One of the copters flying SEAL Team Six in was damaged beyond field repair and had to be destroyed. The other chopper(s) had to carry those troops back out, and OBL’s body for confirmation of the kill. I’m pretty sure that cargo space was at a premium.
Did Leon Panetta Send Order to Take Out Osama Rather Than Obama?
President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president. … [T]here had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. … Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in [getting Obama to take] a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again.
Do you think jihadist the world over will admire her because of her marriage to OBL? Probably.
I can also imagine her raising her children to look up to their famous father. She will brainwash them into believing their father was a fearless leader of the under privileged and the most famous of all freedom fighters. I think she will raise those children to hate.
Artfldgr:
Is this the link you’re quoting?
Artfldgr,
“Did Leon Panetta Send Order to Take Out Osama Rather Than Obama?”
Yeah, I sure would hope so. I mean, it’s easy to confuse them because of the name similarity, but Panetta would have been in a heap of trouble if he’d sent the commando team after his boss instead of the terrorist guy.
“”President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president. …””
Artfldgr
Had things gone badly, we would have heard Obama explain how he left it up to CIA leadership, and for that he may have made a small lapse in judgement. But things went well and we got the “Obama pulls off the impossible” narrative.
What’s worrysome is just how many Americans haven’t caught on to this decieitful SOB.
Never underestimate the power of a woman to subjugate herself to a man or society. Not that men don’t have a problem with this themselves, but it’s particularly confusing to see this happen with women. Or at least for me it is.
Even Muslim men can be confused:
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/05/147918.html
“Osama asked him to volunteer to be a suicide bomber and Omar refused. Upon demanding how he could ask such a thing of his sons, bin Laden replied, “’You hold no more a place in my heart than any other man or boy in the entire country’… My father hated his enemies more than he loved his sons.'”
Didn’t Prime Minister Golda Meir once say of the Palestinians/Arabs [do not recall which], . . .?
“We will enjoy peace with them when they decide to love their children more than they hate the Jews.”
Without putting troops on the ground in Afghanistan, there would have been no bases to send the helis from, requiring some kind of ridiculous plan like the Iranian hostage rescue attempt.
Democrats are extremely weak to PR pressure concerning casualties on the ground, enemy or American.
Is that because they lack the spine to say that the war, like Libya, is just an entertainment program for them?
MJR: yes, she did.
She also said, “when peace comes, in time we will forgive the Arabs for killing our sons. What will be much harder to forgive is that the Arabs forced us to kill their sons.”
Ymarsakar: the Democrats of my acquaintance who have been sensitive to casualties, as you say, have often been those unable (or unwilling) to differentiate between different kinds of deaths. They’re also the ones who insist that, even if invading Afghanistan was moral because of the 3,000 killed on 9/11, it became immoral the instant we killed the 3,001th al-Qaeda Afghani. (Or did it become immoral the instant we lost American soldier #3,001? Probably both, by their lights.)
In the memorable words of a blogger I used to read, these are the people who claim that pushing an old lady in front of a speeding bus is morally equivalent to pushing her out of the way of that speeding bus, because you just shouldn’t push old ladies. Sometimes they argue that the Sixth Commandment says “Thou Shalt Not Kill”, so all killing for any reason is wrong. (It doesn’t, by the way; it says “Thou Shalt Not Murder”, which is something else again.)
“She was just 17 when she and Bin Laden wed in Afghanistan.”
That’s above the age of consent in my state, thank goodness she wasn’t 6.
“”That’s above the age of consent in my state, thank goodness she wasn’t 6″”
Parker
She was 6. The 27 refers to her dysfunctional jihad society years.
“when peace comes, in time we will forgive the Arabs for killing our sons. What will be much harder to forgive is that the Arabs forced us to kill their sons.”
Worthy of Shakespeare.
Daniel in B,
I remember a quote on life and death.
To be honest I do not think whether they live or die is the matter at hand. Life is not always better than death. It is not that simple. Living and being made to live are very different things. What matters is what the person chooses of their own free will. Whether or not it can be achieved or how difficult it is.
I want you to think about this… imagine if what matters most to you was taken away against your will. If that is indeed worth less than your life
-Mitsurugi, Meiya in ML Alternative
“‘He either fears his fate too much,
Or his desert is small,
Who fears to put it to the touch,
And win or lose it all.’ – Montrose’s Toast
What you of the CHOAM directorate seem unable to understand is that you seldom find real loyalties in commerce. When did you last hear of a clerk giving his life for the company? Perhaps your deficiency rests in the false assumption that you can order men to think and cooperate. This has been a failure of everything from religions to general staffs throughout history. General staffs have a long record of destroying their own nations. As to religions, I recommend a rereading of Thomas Aquinas. As to you of CHOAM, what nonsense you believe! Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness — they cannot work and their civilization collapses.
-A letter to CHOAM, Attributed to The Preacher
Quality of life for Terry Schiavo was the determinating factor for the Left. Life expectancy is what they use to judge a nation’s greatness.
One gets the sense that some people have become deluded on the matter of what is truly important in life. I suppose a society that prides itself on suppressing the free will of its individuals in favor of statist and totalitarian government planning, may not fully appreciate the self-determination of individual humans. Nor its overarching value.
Is death so terrifying for some that they cannot use their brains to distinguish different levels of worth?
I believe that the great cleavage point in Islam is its treatment of women. If we “unbelievers” can somehow get the women of Islam to recognize that they are, in essence, just slaves and pieces of meat, they may perhaps be persuaded to so disrupt the ideology and hold of Islam on the people of the Umma that it might just come unglued. How despised and hated “unbelievers” such as us can persuade them is another matter entirely.
P.S.–Just happened to catch an interview the took place in Pakistan today with some sort of Paki intelligence honcho who said —in response to the question, “how can you expect us to believe that Bin Ladin was living in a compound [across the street from the town’s police station and the Pakistani West Point, in a restricted military zone, living next door to a Pakistani General, and in an area chocked full on military retirees] thirty five miles from the Capital, and that you [government, military, and intelligence authorities] were totally unaware of this?”
To which this joker replied, with a straight face, “it was a small town,” [which I take to mean was him making the excuse that “this town was so insignificant that we overlooked it, rather than the more logical, this compound stuck out like a sore thumb in a town as small as this one] and “we had a slip up.”
If this clown is the best they can do, if we fall for this shit, we are too dumb to live, and deserve everything we get.
There is a film about 4 women living under the Taliban titled “Osama.” You can get it on Netfix.
Osama (Persian: أسامة) is a 2003 film made in Afghanistan by Siddiq Barmak. It is about a girl living in Afghanistan under the Taliban regime who disguises herself as a boy, Osama, to support her family.
If you dare to watch it you will never wonder again how she’s doing.
If this clown is the best they can do, if we fall for this shit, we are too dumb to live, and deserve everything we get.
I caught snippets of Osama’s neighbors being interviewed, and every a-one of ’em simply had no, I say absolutely no idea Osama was their neighbor.
Liars all of them, I say.
The Democrats of my acquaintance who have been sensitive to casualties, as you say, have often been those unable (or unwilling) to differentiate between different kinds of deaths.
Like I keep saying, political correctness is willful stupidity.
One of the big pluses of polygamy is said to be that muslim men can marry older, widowed muslim women who would have no status in the muslim world without a hubby for “protection” (read, religiously controlled incarceration). Looks like Osama didn’t do much for the elderly widows of his religion.
We’re up against a religion that commands men (literally, the males) to follow their basest urges when it comes to fighting and fornicating. All cheered on and praised by their god.
This, folks, is what we’re really up against. This is why this pernicious doctrine has been so bloody successful over the centuries.
As far as their opinions about … well, anything … I’m done. Don’t give a damn. And I don’t feel sorry for most of their women: that link Daniel gave is spot-on, of the women with the Western veneer grieving the death of the monster as a religious hero. Or for the ones in burkas in hellhole villages, sawing off their baby girls’ private parts with a piece of sharp glass, saying their god commands it, getting rid of the “unclean bits.”
A woman here in New York, another apostate lefty, sent me this anecdote: “I traveled in southern Morocco since I thought that was so “cool,” until I was sitting by myself on a train headed to Marrakesh when I was threatened by packs of Muslim men stalking me like a piece of meat on the train. I had to cover my head with a scarf, eyes with sunglasses and arms by wearing long sleeves in 105 degree heat, while awakening to the reality of how “cool” and multicultural hip it really was the way radical Islam (mis)treats women. Another eye opener.”
Done, done, and done.
Irony of ironies: I’m editing a book by a PC crowd (the things I do for rent!). On terrorism, no less.
They’re absolutely wild-eyed at the thought of government intrusion — wiretapping phone calls to Yemen, the idea! religiously profiling Muslim men at airports! the Outrage!
yet they have no problem in taking away all our other freedoms. And they’re as silent as the grave about our rights to self-defense. Do they see the illogic? hell no.
We’re up against a religion that commands men (literally, the males) to follow their basest urges when it comes to fighting and fornicating.
That’s the same as the Leftist alliance, assuming the Left has a spine for an actual fight rather than verbal and government goon tyranny. Close enough.
There is a CONSTANT female up-lift meme floating in the ether WRT the muslims.
Folks, WAKE UP, it’s patriarchy all the way down.
The absolute WORST thing you can do to help women is to help ‘women.’
Absolutely NOTHING should be done to white knight their females. NOTHING.
It’s entirely counter-productive. In a totalitarian-patriarchal society ANY outsider who comes in to repudiate current norms of male hyper-supremacy MUST be met with EVERY able bodied male.
Women are power SINKS not reservoirs.
The Afghanis are living EXACTLY like our ancestors — 15,000 years ago. NONE of the progress since — that matters — was driven by females.
In such savage times ( do your research ) females were entirely expendable. Yes, we were savages.
Why was the male so esteemed over the female? After all they are FUN and look terrific. They cook and support their man. BUT, they were entirely useless WRT survival.
No woman ever born can defend the clan. THAT was the equation. Defense of the clan was paramount, even beyond the creation of the next generation; even beyond the vast pleasure a mate could offer her lover.
In absolutely every case, when pushed to the limit: mothers favor their sons over their daughters. ( Sophie’s Choice )
[ Underlying this preference for males: XX gets to ‘over DNA’ her sons; XY (her son) is over loaded with mom’s CRITICAL master genes. XX (her daughter) means that daddy is 50:50 with mommy. XY means that the X out represents the Y an astonishing 58-60%. The MASTER gene keys are on the magic leg of the X vs the Y! This understanding is less than ten years old. It shocked the DNA world.]
This is why time and again daddy loves his daughters and mommy is infatuated with her son. Each is seeing maximum expression of their genes. Dad is limited to 50%. Mom is limited to 60%.
It starts to pull into view. The XX is dominant in the NEXT generation. The XY is dominant in the NOW.
Is it any wonder why men become soldiers and girls become school teachers?
What I get out of all of this entire episode that this administration can’t shut the hell up! None of this stuff should come out, not one detail.
They can’t shut up because they imagine they can posture for political gain from this episode so they have to keep adjusting the narrative.
If there was any last-minute vacillation about ordering the raid, I bet it was because they were unsure of the political fallout and trying to figure out the best way to make hay redounding to their political advantage. “Do we have everybody here for the photo op? Damn! Where did Slow Joe get himself to now?!?”
The money quote from yesterday was/is..
Do Osama and Obama and the funny Austrian man have a lot more in common?
(and others as well?)
This is why a post turtle is so dangerous / a figurehead / a proxy / etc…
Their purpose is to be the fanatic believer, which makes others believe. The people working the game, cant do that… so they need someone who really believes things to be the figure head and not waver… in Hitler’s case they found each other… in Osama’s case it was manufactured in part by the soviet games in Afghanistan manufacturing heroes as a way to break up the groups…
To most of us the idea of grooming your child is not a good one.
We think of Joseph Mengele, and never give his job a title: Social Engineer
We don’t realize that social engineers seek to program people by controlling the inputs from their environment… in many cases, their idea is to move someone past the event horizon to lock in the result they need (to juggle numbers on some report and take credit for changing it in the way that reflects the pleasure of the aesthetic).
An ideology that sees programming people from childhood really has no problem grooming a special person for a special purpose. We as normal people would find the idea of the “boys from brazil” a horror. but the people who made Cambodian kids into death machines have no problem molding and controlling all the inputs to a child’s reality and carefully construct a fanatical belief. By negating all experience that may raise questions, and using vanity to move the puppet around.
The post turtle is a focal point of the action of others… the others who ARE capable, get to do their thing, while the figurehead deflects and plays games with the people preventing them. OTHERS act… if the action succeeds, the figure head becomes that more special… if the action fails, the figure head becomes more special as someone else takes the hit. In this way, the perfection of the figure head is a process that has to happen over time, and by stating the same things over and over again… in effect talking for the post turtle.. he has not one voice.. he has a thousand apologists and others who will give him the right voice at the right time, in the right place… (and he will collect that if good, deflect it if bad)
We don’t get the politics as our politics normally isn’t about creating a god for men to follow and replace their own lives goals and wishes with…
Understand the history from the ground and you will see the commonalities, understand history by only big men and moments and without methods (focusing on results of methods), and you will be confused. Add to that revision history, and other things and you have a larger opponent who cant move due to its parts all pulling in different directions. Tell the confused that whatever they think is right, and not to listen to others, freezes the confusion in place and prevents correcting it. (break their logical thinking, and you break their ability to develop rational leaders, good opposition, and even be able to debate in a real way to an end… everyone is a captain and there are no mates to run the ship)
If Obama was competent, he would be dangerous to the people pulling the marionettes strings.. He might just believe the press copy, and decide to take the steering wheel and break up the party. (do not think that this is what Hitler did. if he did, or Osama did, the organization would have fallen apart).
If you need a model from history, think of the sun king as a boy… or any king, or such who took up their power position as a child. In this case, the child took up the post through elections and others. he takes his success as vindication of his special miraculous nature, as he knows he does nothing and things work out well for him (as far as he can see). the sycophants run the show, but the child thinks he does. eventually Louise grew up, and not being killed in the process, proceeded to actually act and use that power… that can never happen to a person who is developmentally a child, and placed like a post turtle.. it’s a way to control things by having incompetents take up the place of merit (you get a rotten system for the consumers, but you get a great loyal kingdom of people who owe everything to you, as without you, they could not have what they have!)
Call it using “the pitcher effect” as a tool to an end…
Where the pitcher is responsible for the outcome, and we forget the rest of the team…
the follies of the left last century didn’t take all that long… around a decade… i think that is something that people don’t realize in the narrative… just as they don’t realize the size of the planet and think its more like extupery’s infantalist fantasy (much as peter pan and the author was).
We also, as a group, tend to get a feel that the war started abruptly… even while we hold the knowledge of the appeasements… we do not know about the years of preparation. Gleichschaltung…
i have used the word before, but the patterns seem not to be clear enough for average people to understand that one does not just appear and then go to it.. one would be torn apart..
so one gets the point, and then ones cronies and such distribute wealth to the brutal class (unions in this case and street protest groups). the idea is to establish in the minds of others, what can happen if they are crossed (think GE shareholders) and what can happen if they are placated (GE profits).
Nationalize all you can.. Either ACTUALLY or EFFECTIVELY
(They are equal but for T time)
The latter is what people cant perceive without a good CIQ (what I made up I call the Consequential/Causational Intelligence… I am hoping that one of the docs might like to work on the idea in conjunction with GIQ… it’s the missing ingredient in predicting outcomes. it connects the ability to solve puzzles and things in abstraction, with the ability to solve the problems that are in a physical reality, rather than the infinity of mathematical reality).
The amount of calories you burn running a mile and walking a mile are about the same when you don’t include T as a quotient. But add T, and what is the same becomes different in terms of time. You can run/jog about 3 times as fast as you can walk. 9 miles per hour vs 3 miles per hour.
You can implement social changes at a run (Hitler, Stalin, etc), and overtly march people into ovens and fulfill the prophecies of your prophet Marx (ignoring they are wrong, and working hard corrupting every agency or mentality that can argue, prove, or show it — with fanatical zeal of the religious fundamentalist).
Why would that be the first choice? Because the puppet thinks that their thoughts ARE the thoughts of the people. Le’stat is moi. So that century made the mistake over and over that the people would support them. Each time they didn’t, they didn’t give up on things they shifted to other methods.
Ie… they realized that the people would never comply. And even made up excuses as to why they wont, are inferior because they wont, and so have to be tricked, forced, and played with to comply. they are a force to be reckoned with, even if they don’t know it and can be driven by instinct absent thought and real ability to decide who is using them or leading them well.
The Fabians realized this… and so their symbol is the wolf in sheep’s clothing.
The progressives made similar adjustments… always linking up with another who would take the blame and they would eject when they were done using them. so the progressives sided with the south… used democrats… and played games of torturing blacks where their actions would not be seen by those other people,. The sheeple.
But the truth is that they are not really sheep… they are sheep when sleeping, and the worst nightmare of people who would break them to ride… when they wake up…
The very symbolism tells you all yu need to know..
A wolf is not the same as a sheep… ie. they make sure to think of themselves as not the same. we are elite. We are aristocracy…we are trained and approved to give answers. We are special knowing people. etc..
This is why the leaders who turn the countries into despotic hells are not from that country. Stalin was not Russian, he was Georgian. Hitler was not German, he was Austrian. EVERYONE of the worst rulers in history were wolves among the herd of sheep they seized.
this puts logic to why Obama doesn’t want anyone to be SURE of where he was born.
If he wasn’t born, the “not left” would want him out.. He is not the same he is a wolf
If he was born, the left would want him out, he is the same, and wont act like a wolf
The ONLY way he could gather unto him things was to exist in a suppositional state (this is where the idea of relativity and such comes in to his politics… relativity as a core science points out that where you stand and the perspective changes what you see. so if you reverse that process, you can change others perspective by presenting an illusion to their perceptions… like the famous room where you seem to grow when walking to the end, or the ny lottery commercial where the city shrinks as the man walks from subway car to the outside world..
This is the similarity to quantum physics… where we are trying to solve a problem by creating entangled particles… none of them unique, and all of them existing in two suppositional states… (playing both ends)
So, by blocking the eyes from seeing the outcome
You block the mind (reality) from being able to decide
Once the REAL birth cert comes out with CERTAINTY..
Then the two sides split… Supposition breaks way to Division
Another version is to tack on the real thing onto the used thing
Feminist for porn, feminism against porn.
The two sides would split, except that they are held together by feminism into a suppositional state… and only the leaders of feminism can choose.
as in the other thread, the judge is not the litigants… they are above the fight, don’t have to fight, and get to decide the outcome of the fight… making the litigants irrelevant other than an opportunity to make a choice that favors the judge.
All these are alternative means to the same ends..
It’s so impossible to explain this to average people.
They will literally ostracize you, beat you up, etc..
The horror of a false reality given to them is incomprehensible
It would require them realizing that most of their lives were made a sham
And that the ONLY purpose they served was getting a ball into play so that the people who can’t get the ball in play can decide where it ends up.
Ie… the proletariat pulls the rocks that the god king places
Even phds don’t understand this stuff…
They know I have something, so they act like moths to a flame
But its assails their senses and their whole lives
So they never get it..
We think and operate as if we are inside the glass house with everyone else
THEY think and operate as if their eyes were the glass of the house, and their minds are watching the others inside that glass house, and thinking from above meta level, orchestrating themselves to orchestrate others.
Ie… affective sociopaths… they lose their humanity by rising above the self, and making the self a puppet to move others and so forth… this is what allows them to think they are different superior, and all that… and to imagine regular people are asleep and stupid and they are awake… rather than regular people feel and they don’t…
With that view… ANY And EVERY horror you can possibly imagine multiplied by a million becomes possible… they share one commonality with autistics… they see people as material objects (so is it so hard they deny the spiritual and believe only in material?)
The rubber walled tile rooms of the horror movie hostel, were poor censored copies of the basement rooms of the NKVD.
This affective puppet mind thing is what made monsters of regular people in germany. it is what allows you to work a job that demeans you, and still hold your self respect. Its got lots of good things to it… but like any good that is perverted and abused, it can do massive bad as well. Ask Joseph Zimbardo’s people (he is dead so you cant ask him.he was the researcher behind the Stamford findings)
They put together all this stuff… a GREAT example of it to wake one up to that, is to read the Chinese paper on “unrestricted warfare” ..
The biggest thing that an average person can take from that document other than what the subject is. is that the people who are doing this thinking, writing, planning, and such, know the REAL history, and facts…
Reading that document more than anything else can show one how crippled the average person is in terms of reasoning and knowing and being free to climb out of the mind prisons they are making…
I HIGHLY recommend reading that document. It clearly points out that we are at war with china, and china is at war with us.. Which makes the leaders acting on their behalf traitors to their people… and the reasons why its ok, just a cover to prevent prevention.
Unrestricted Warfare
Literally “warfare beyond bounds”, written in 1999 by two colonels in the People’s Liberation Army, Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui
Actually its more than that… it sets forth a doctrine that I had not seen since john cleese did his film, how to really really really really really annoy/hurt people and get away with it.
In a nutshell, the idea is to try to help them, but be incompetent
So, if you had not read this document in detail, you would think that CFL politics was some economic thing, and not a way to introduce a heavy metal with profound mental impingments into the environment of your enemies children. SAME with lead in the toys, and antifreeze… (if it was not for pets dying, we would not have realized what we were feeding our children too).
It makes any impingment and thing that you can deliver a tool of war…
To rename it in a way that common people and psychologists can understand fast.
Unrestricted warfare, is really Passive aggressive warfare.
Obama and others are connected to this engine of thought.
Their victims are not… (nor do their victims even care to find out, they want to guess it on their own.. as if it a game show, and not gulags)
How many people here actually went and read it after I said, or have actually read it before I said (or on their own without hearing it from me).
I bet almost no one.
I will leave with one quote from it, to give you an idea of how the opponents think compared to regular people, and what they know and don’t know.
Alternative methods of attack
Lawfare
Economic warfare
Network warfare
Terrorism
You don’t want to know what the defense against it is…
But rest assured the administration is removing the people who think in a way that would make that defense possible!
If you cant call a passive aggressive out onto the table and whack upside the head for it, and or leave and not work with them.. then your going to stay on a roller coaster of destruction until the very end realization, where your too weak and too damaged to do much if anything about it.
http://www.eng.auburn.edu/users/hamilton/security/unrestricted.pdf
Note that what is happening to us economical, with the credit and such is unrestricted warfare..
If china dumps EVERYTHING and goes isolationist to America in one day..
What would be the outcome?
Unlike a nuclear bomb, we would not attack them, would we?
But would the damage be on par with nuclear weapons?
Hold on to your hat Dorothy…
been seeing this one coming since way way before
and we cant stop it now… we are past that event horizon
just as a man stuck in checkmate in 3 moves will lose if he keeps playing
Artfldgr–Yeah, well, I saw a note that this report on “unrestricted warfare” had surfaced and got a copy of this document when it first came out, called my coworkers, supervisor, and the relevant analyst’s attention to it–being in the business we were in, you would have thought there would have been great interest in it–and, well, it apparently just sank like a stone.
I spent many years studying East Asia, and China and Japan in particular, and although I did not study this report in any great detail, but just glanced over it, what stood out so plainly for me and what I saw so clearly was how different the world view of Chinese strategists that was presented was, and how different from ours were their assumptions–how Chinese strategists paid close and careful attention to examples from their long and complex history which different so radically in many respects from ours–and how they used those examples in formulating approaches and strategies that differed markedly from what we in the West were used to, and were probably preparing against; they saw one world and its attendant possibilities and methods and we saw another.
From what I gathered, we were just assuming, in general, that our way, our viewpoint, our strategies and tactics, our forces, weapons, tools and goals, our operational tempos and timetables to accomplish them, were the only logical and effective and winning ones out there–and this being so–in warfare in today’s sophisticated, mechanized, computer controlled world it was just a matter of working to counter enemies who were in essence inferior carbon copies of us, who were pretty easily predictable, and who were, in general, working off the same page. Of course, this report could all just be junior officers presenting crazy, impractical theories, or it could also be disinformation. But, for me, this report demonstrated just how wrong those easy assumptions of ours might be.
As the Chinese saying goes, trying to call attention to this report and pointing to its perhaps critical importance was “like playing a violin in front of a pig”
I sure as hell hope that those in authority, in our military academies, the Pentagon, and intelligence community took to heart the radically different worldview and playbook of strategies that this report presented. But, somehow, I am not very confident that this is what happened.
I just began volunteering in refugee resettlement. As luck would have it, our next family is from Iraq. The oldest kid is a sixteen-year-old girl.
She’ll be going to a middle class HS, almost entirely WASP.
Cheerleaders. Girls’ lax, soccer, b-ball, track. When my kids were seniors, a girl was pres of the student council and another of the varsity club.
Think I’ll have to give Dad a couple of hard looks?
No honor harassment on my watch.