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  1. Blaming some hostage deaths on Israeli attacks takes some gall, but these monsters lack any sort of common decency.

  2. I had a reaction somewhat analogous to that of the Israeli woman (Irit Lahav), although I am far, far removed from the situation, especially as compared with Lahav.

    I had always been careful to distinguish between anti-Zionism [against Israel] and antisemitism [against Jews]. The instantaneous, visceral, vocal hatred I saw expressed in *blue*-USA on October 8th (and since) disabused me of such finesse. It instantly became crystal clear to me that the virulent (and in some cases violent) outpouring of concentrated *bile*, from so many, is and has been antisemitism all along.

    That is depressing in the extreme.

  3. Israeli peace activist Irit Lahav has been mugged by reality. Willful blindness is no defense against hate that descends into a physical attack.

  4. Generally I agree with you, but you are wrong to assume it’s not all Gazans. They are not just “representatives” of Gazans. This is a western illusion rooted in ignorant assumptions that “everyone wants the same thing”. That’s simply untrue.

  5. }}} now believes that “all of the people of Gaza, all of them, hate us to a degree where they would murder babies and pillage our property with zero compunction.”

    I think that’s going too far in the other direction… I’m sure there are Gazans — and “Palestinians” who are not extremists for Islam.

    But yes, that’s very much the way to bet, the best presumption until you have serious evidence otherwise. And not just words, even words spouted for years or even decades. Concrete, “Anne Frank protection” type actions.

  6. OBLoody.
    Very true. The way to bet is a matter of probability. Obviously. It is not offset by a rare item, no matter how attractive said item is to somebody else.

  7. Leah:

    “Not all Gazans” simply means “not 100% of Gazans.” I wrote that it’s the vast majority of Gazans, however.

    Somehow you translate this into my ignorantly assuming “everyone wants the same thing”? And that Hamas is just “representatives of Gazans”? That is quite the opposite of what I actually wrote. The “vast majority” means that I think most Gazans – probably at least 80% – would like to destroy Israel and approve what Hamas did.

  8. It seems to me that it is highly unlikely that any hostages are still alive at this point.

  9. Its much like living in a gangland which increasingly most cities are becoming can you vote your way of gotham or its west coast equivalents

    Sinwar is a ward boss but most of the leadership is in qatar

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