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Open thread 9/7/23 — 28 Comments

  1. My daughters were in Pony Club growing up.
    That ain’t Pony Club.
    On the other hand, those girls probably don’t ride over jumps lovingly constructed by Dads from telephone poles, and rail road ties. Or occasionally crash into them to the horror of Moms.

  2. “…in better uniforms…”
    Yeah, I’m not sure which hotline to call first, PETA or the Fashionista Brigades….

  3. Francis Menton has a highly worthwhile current piece at his Manhattan Contrarian website: “The Elites Directing The Energy Transition Really Have No Idea What They Are Doing,” https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2023-9-6-the-elites-directing-the-energy-transition-really-have-no-idea-what-they-are-doing

    To understand it, one has to grasp the distinction between gigawatts [GW] and gigawatt-hours [GWh], a distinction that is probably beyond the capabilities of most of those whom Mark Steyn calls “America’s depraved political class.”

    I like this comment by one of Menton’s other readers: “If people don’t actually deserve to live in civilization, they soon won’t.”

    (On the other hand, many people on the right seemingly don’t recognize that hydrocarbon [“fossil”] fuels are assets that are going to run out. Nuclear fission is limited in the same way. Only nuclear fusion is — sort of — infinite, but it’s always 50 years away …)

  4. RE: UFOs and scientific estimates

    Below is a link to a paper titled,

    “Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles”
    by Drs. Kevin H. Knuth, Robert M. Powell, and Peter A. Reali

    Any of you with the scientific and mathematical background sufficient to understand this paper might be interested in the estimations made and the calculations used here.

    Scanning this paper, one finds the astonishing calculation that the G forces generated by the UFO involved in the NIMITZ incident were estimated as being 5,600 plus Gs, the maximum speed attained was estimated to be 46,000 mph, and that the energy output needed to accomplish it’s maneuvers and acceleration was estimated as being 1,100 GW, more than ten times the nuclear power output of the entire United States.

    Folks, this ain’t no swamp gas, sun dog, canopy reflection, balloon, or drone!

    * See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7514271/

  5. Well at least it is more interesting to watch than Chronic Venous Insufficeincy (CVI).

    Search “What is CVI?”

  6. Flys at 46,000 mph, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings with a single bound, look up in the sky, it’s a bird, it’s a plane …. it’s not worth punctuation.

    It’s bullshit.

  7. Folks, this ain’t no swamp gas, sun dog, canopy reflection, balloon, or drone!

    Ain’t no aliens, either. Betcha dollars to doughnuts.

  8. RE: UFOs

    If one assumes that UFOs use energy sources known to scientists and that UFOs are subjected to the same sorts of physical constraints (e.g. gravity, other forces generated due to massive accelerations, air resistance , heat generated at the surface of the UFO, etc), then the calculated energy needed to propel / accelerate these UFOs may be of interest.

    But clearly, these UFOs use technology that removes ( at least locally ) any/all external constraints that affect human produced aircraft as well as human life.

    The real question should be why is the US govt hiding any info at all about UFOs??
    It certainly is not a national security issue – UFO “denizens” clearly can do whatever they want, whenever they want and however they want – and no earth bound agency can do anything about it.
    You might as well ask some agency to stop a hurricane heading to Florida.

    This UFO secret stuff is just one more example of govt agencies run amok doing whatever the F they please irrespective of congressional demands.

    It’s too bad Congress cannot order, using federal marshals, raids on the offices of govt employees (esp. those in the FBI, NSA, DOJ, EPA, IRS, State Dept, – really all of them) as well as arresting all govt officials under the legal purview of congress that refuse to turn over what is requested by congress.

    All govt agencies ( I believe) are answerable to congress and must turn over to congress what is asked of them. We have seen time and time again agency heads and top officials basically given the middle finger to congress.
    They do this because they know nothing at all will happen to them.

    Congress has really become a sick joke. They have fobbed off onto federal agencies the vast majority of the law making (contrary to the US Constitution) and when they request data from agencies, congress just gets a big fat F-you.

    And when a federal agency blatantly defies established laws (e.g., the DHS implementing an open borders policy) , congress does zero.

    The USA is a governed by federal bureaucrats (similar to how the USSR was governed by their nomenklatura) and it does not appear this will change anytime soon.

  9. JohnTyler–Much as it would do my heart good to see a bunch of armed U.S. Marshals swoop down on some Federal Department or Agency, liberate requested documents, and arrest and perp walk some haughty bureaucrats off to jail on orders from Congress, from what I have found this service is under the control of the DOJ, so–despite TV series to the contrary–I’d imagine that it is likely to be just as corrupt as today’s DOJ, and not an independent law enforcement agency, one able to act at the direction of Congress.

    Even if Congress somehow found a backbone, as far as I can tell Congress has no real enforcement arm which answers only to it, other than the offices of the House and Senate Sergeant at Arms (surprisingly WIKI says the office of the Senate Sergeant At Arms employs 900-1,000 personnel), whose jurisdictions are apparently confined to the Congress itself and to Capitol Hill.

    Apparently the last time someone was arrested by the Sergeant at Arms–this for not showing up to testify–was sometime in the 1930s.

  10. I hadn’t seen that in so long I’d forgotten all about it. Pretty much synonymous to a circus act.

    Where I’m from it’s a little more like this.

  11. om–I must admire your attention to detail, and the deep, scientific, complex, and subtle nature of your analysis of the UFO phenomenon.

  12. I’m going to add this on this Open Thread, 9/7/23, post, but it refers to the US/ Texas /Heat comments on the Summer post, 9/6/23.

    I have lived for 5 summers in N. Central TX. I think I would remember if every year had been this hot. I was curious so did some research:

    https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/keller/76248/july-weather/340873?year=2022research(https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/keller/76248/july-weather/340873?year=2022). You can manipulate the months and years searched by using the down arrows on the monthly charts.

    Triple Digit Highs:

    2022 July 29(!)
    Aug 12
    Sept 0 (!)

    2023 June 9
    July 13
    Aug 25 (seemed like every day!)
    Sept 5 (as of 9/7/23) (last 100+ high this month predicted to be 9/8)

    Some attribute at least part of this heat to El Nino conditions this year, which “oscillate” with La Nina conditions. I could find no particular correlation with years 2022 and 2023. There seem to be multiple combined factors at any given time. Links to El Nino/La Nina articles:

    https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/how-el-nino-is-helping-drive-heatwaves-extreme-weather-2023-07-19/

    “How climate change might be affecting El Nino is “a very big research question,” said DiLiberto. While climate change is doubling down on the impacts from El Nino — layering heat on top of heat, or excess rainfall on top of excess rainfall — it’s less clear if climate change is influencing the phenomenon itself.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64192508

    (“Woke”) “Between 2020 and 2022, the Northern Hemisphere had three La Niña episodes in a row, which stopped global temperatures from increasing as much as they otherwise would have as a result of human-caused climate change.”

    “Human-caused climate change”: depends on how you mean “human-caused”.

  13. Folks, this ain’t no swamp gas, sun dog, canopy reflection, balloon, or drone!
    –Snow on pine

    One thing leads to another….
    __________________________________

    This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco
    This ain’t no fooling around
    This ain’t no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B
    I ain’t got time for that now

    –Talking Heads, “Life During Wartime”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTGxg6ico_8

    __________________________________

    Mudd Club and CBGB were legendary NYC new wave/punk rock clubs in the 70s.

    I listen to lyrics more than most people. I wondered what David Byrne thought was more important than the home venues for the Talking Heads, but it was years before I really listened to this song.

    It’s about an urban guerrilla, presumably Weather Underground vintage, who has taken up arms after Amerikkka has devolved into civil war and he is surviving on peanut butter. The lyrics continue:
    ___________________________

    Heard about Houston? Heard about Detroit?
    Heard about Pittsburgh, P. A.?
    You oughta know not to stand by the window
    Somebody’ll see you up there
    I got some groceries, some peanut butter
    To last a couple of days
    But I ain’t got no speakers, ain’t got no headphones
    Ain’t got no records to play

    ___________________________

    It’s got a beat, you can dance to it.

  14. The girl gymnasts are good. Well trained.

    But the horse. Do you know how long it takes to train a horse to do this? Years of patient, careful work.

    I’m not a horse expert, our daughter is. She trains them as a hobby in her spare time. I do know from her how hard it is to get a horse to be calm and attentive to detail without a rider guiding it. This horse is wonderful. Color me impressed.

  15. Kate on September 7, 2023 at 10:16 am said:
    On the horse sport, well, okay, if that’s what you want to do. However did such a thing develop?

    Perhaps with the Asian/ central Asian raiders/ conquerors from the steppes?
    Although it would appear these girls’ ridership acts puts even shooting a bow and arrow at your enemy from horseback in the shade. Perhaps their horse is a larger version of what the Huns or Mongols had available? Trotting rather than cantering or galloping?

    and a H/T to om on September 7, 2023 at 10:38 am, a comment or two later.

  16. I’d hazard that as soon as we domesticated animals large enough to ride, someone rode them. Horse in particular. Every culture with riding horses has evidence of trick riding.

    This [entry] has Russian Cossacks as the developers but there are references to Celts doing some of the same things with their horses and chariots, so the desire is pretty deep.

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