I vaguely remember trying to do that at Boy Scout camp about a zillion years ago. All I remember is that it was not easy and I don’t believe I could ever get it to light.
When they get rid of NG we will be rubbing sticks together to cook the Ribeyes.
“SpaceX routinely discouraged asylees and refugees from applying and refused to hire or consider them, because of their citizenship status, in violation of the Immigration and Nationality Act.”
Abraxas on August 25, 2023 at 10:38 am said:
Strange, powerful ad from pro-DeSantis PAC slams Trump for not prosecuting Hillary Clinton. It could backfire. It makes Trump look far more humane and human than the current regime.
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I really, really hate this new trend of articles saying I should watch something, but which don’t show the video. Just a X-Twitter link. Often that takes more than one more click – if it plays at all.
I don’t get it. Why make your site less user-friendly?
I notice that video is edited, and never says just how LONG it took to heat up the shavings.
Nonapod,
The SpaceX thing looks damning (and ludicrous), but it could be nothing. Large companies are sued ALL THE TIME. Often for nutty, baseless, insane things. Deep pockets. Attorneys, employees and non-employees know they can often get a quick paycheck from a company willing to settle to avoid paying legal fees, even when the complainant’s case is without merit.
I’ve been party to several cases brought by government entities when disgruntled, former employees register meritless complaints.
During his recent remarkable interview (remarkable, I believe, for the piercing questions which Carlson dared to ask) with former President Trump, Tucker Carlson listed the escalating trajectory of failed attempts by the Left to try to neutralize Trump, and asked the question, “why wouldn’t the Left try to kill you, honestly?
Trump did not answer this question, but did say, “they are savage animals.”
Carlson’s final question was whether Trump saw us “moving towards Civil War?
Trump did not answer this question directly, but he did say that “there is a level of passion I’ve never seen” …”and a level of hatred I’ve never seen,” and “that’s probably a bad combination.” *
Some reports estimate that some 150 million people tuned into this interview.
no it’s lawfare, like putin practices against khodorkovsky or the heads of most the opposition media, erdogan does the same, same in islamabad,
Following on SHIREHOME’s comment, they are now going after, of all things, ceiling fans!! Since I doubt anyone can be so numerically illiterate to think ceiling fan motor efficiency will have any effect on the net energy consumption, this must be another piece of the ongoing effort to control every item of energy usage in every house by the government. Definitely knaves, not fools.
They would hate our new house that we finally just moved into. Gas cooktop, gas grill, gas powered backup generator, and heaven forbid,ceiling fans in every room and even in the lanai. Oh, and in the height of hypocrisy, the house got a 5 star energy rating from the “gubmint”. LOL
The ad should play if you click on the arrow on the video in the tweet. Maybe you need to be registered with X, but I didn’t have any problems.
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Carlson-Trump interview: Some people are saying that Carlson wasn’t probing enough, but that wasn’t really the point of the interview. It was Carlson and Trump poking Fox. There will probably be more opportunities to ask other questions in later interviews.
I notice too, some in the media contrasting the debate with the “dark” Carlson-Trump interview with its discussion of civil war. Of course, that’s all spin. Ask questions about civil war, and Trump will have to respond somehow. It’s not like he was pushing the idea.
I don’t think most of the people who comment here, and I don’t think neo herself, is the kind of person who puts party politics above everything.
It follows that for each of us here who is not a party hack, there must be something that Republicans could do, or fail to do, that would make us think “Wow, these guys are clueless, or incompetent, or they’ve just been lying all along”.
Whatever that “red line” is for you, imagine that it has been crossed. (For each of us it’s a different thing, so I won’t give an example). If that happens, I think that few of us would be willing to listen to any more arguments about how hard the Republicans tried and how if we don’t vote for them or try to replace them with real conservatives then look what the Dems are going to do. I think we’d be saying, “I’ve been hearing this for years, and all this stuff has been happening, and all these same things were being said, but things just keep getting worse.”
And I think in that case, the only thing that WOULD convince any of us to reconsider would be a demonstration of concrete and effective action to correct the situation. Not only that, we might feel foolish for having gone along with the situation for so long, and be especially distrustful of anyone saying the same things we’ve been hearing this whole time; and we’d be quite unreceptive to a suggestion that it is WE who are the problem for no longer wanting to go along.
Given that’s the case, for some of us this has happened already. For some of us, it hasn’t happened yet, but the way things are going it will happen in the next 5 – 10 years.
We all have this in common; we’re just at different stages in moving toward it. Thinking about these “red lines” and understanding where we’d be if they were crossed, could be something that helps bring some more unity going forward. Just a thought.
I’m no slouch at linking here, but I always attempt to link to the final destination, not some “start here and keep clicking” page. In this case of the DeSantis ad that is:
Ceiling Fans? I thought that the electric motors were pretty efficient. We put in MiniSplits several years ago and love them. Great for A/C and Heat because I can control the temps by room, not the whole house which can be wasteful.
I guess I could hire a couple of illegals to wave the fans over us to keep us cool. Then we would not be sued like they are Musk.
I notice that video is edited, and never says just how LONG it took to heat up the shavings.
Takes about 5-10 minutes normally (I have done a few times just for the fun of it- the longest part is getting the groove and the end of the stick smooth enough that you can speed up the back and forth motion enough to create hot embers. It is tiring- almost no one can do what he did for even 2 minutes straight- you do it for a minute, rest 30 seconds, another minute, etc. There are better ways which anyone can find on-line that make use of mechanical leverage to do the work more efficiently.
Of course, with emergency machete and hunting knife, one would be wise to have emergency matches, too.
@physics guy at 11:28:
It is immaterial to the guvmnt that you probably paid an arm and a leg for your new house with natural gas fixtures and ceiling fans. (BTW, congratulations) You are helping the economy for a while, and when they decide to ban/shut down everything, it will be immaterial to them that you basically are unable to live anymore. “You will own nothing and be happy.”
physicsguy,
Glad to hear your home is finished and you and your wife have moved into it. I wish you all the best!
Frederick,
I think you are correct, most everyone has a line. With me (and I’m likely not alone), there is no line because I’m not even on the field. I think parties are an abomination and the U.S.’ two major parties, in particular, do more harm than good to we citizens’ ability to have optimal government.
So, I’m never disappointed by the Republicans or their candidates because my base assumption is they are not working for me, or my interests. When they do it’s a nice, occasional surprise.
In politics people are naturally going to work together on common causes and that, invariably will lead to political parties, or something like them, but I have no loyalty to any as they are currently constituted in the U.S.
Since we have only two with any chance of winning both parties scramble to shoehorn every single issue into their platform and their stance often simply becomes the opposite of what the other party adopts. I imagine 30% or more of regular Democrat voters are pro 2nd amendment. I imagine 30% or more of regular Republican voters are pro gay marriage, etc… If we had a strong labor party, corporate party, green party, Christian party, sportsmen party, education party… People could pick and choose based on what their concerns are in any election and parties would be forced to caucus and horse trade to get anything done.
A fire bow is more efficient, but takes more prep and you probably lose a shoe lace, which is a different problem.
Given the news about what just happened to Prigozhin, it would seem a logical question to ask Trump, if he feared assassination.
So now–if, indeed, anywhere near the estimated 150 million people watched this interview–that possibility, that meme (which I am sure has already occurred to a lot of people) has now been injected into a wider public consciousness.
The same for the idea of the potential for Civil War.
There are no doubt many Democrats who would welcome some form of violence that could prevent a Trump-driven inquiry into corruption in the government, because otherwise, they would be facing jail time.
And by “many”, I mean thousands of powerful people. Sobering.
Thanks for the link. I’ll be sharing it with all my peeps.
Reminds me of the episode in Star Trek Voyager where the crew was marooned on a primitive planet. The ships XO, who was supposed to be some kind of Indian, was trying and failing to start a fire with a stick. He told someone they had the luck of being stranded with the only Indian who could not start a fire.Then someone used human hair to further the process along.
I can do the same thing easy. Take a piece of dry wood and a wooden stick match. Strike match, light wood.
Noticed those two Tucker interview questions too. And same observation, Trump chose to defuse rather than inflame.
***
Had one more reply to our earlier thread on Japan.
• Definitely not surprised by the Japanese cook staff’ reaction to the Korean officer – and good for the Korean officer for being willing to eat there – it was not just the Nazis that did criminal things.
• Your warning about not drinking the milk reminded of the time we were visiting Paris – Summer after 2nd grade – and we could not get ice cream cones at the Eiffel Tower because my aunt – who lived in Paris – told my parents it was not safe.
• Not sure if it was due to TB, but I am sure we did not get beer as a substitute. However, every time we visited Europe, I did get about two fingers worth of wine at dinner – which I always enjoyed.
• Understand his reaction – had a reason to fear government officials – and on a more serious note, we are headed in that direction too.
Lastly, I do not want to even imagine what you saw in a hospital that supported young Serviceman – especially in an overseas location.
physicsguy, congratulations on finally moving in! I hope the house will meet all your expectations.
I did that friction fire starting in Boy Scouts but used a bow to spin the stick. Very time consuming and the materials must be very dry.
Moved up to flint and steel. That requires charred cloth as a receptacle for the spark. Takes about two or three strikes to get a spark to enter the char. Then you use dried, shredded bark as tinder. Put the glowing char in the center of a ball of tinder, then blow on it gently. Have a teepee of smaller sticks to put the flaming tinder under. Voila, you have a campfire.
I won the fire-starting contest at several Boy Scout jamborees in the 1940s. As a result, I was selected to start the opening campfire for the National Boy Scout Conference when it was held in my hometown. A bit of pressure performing before such a big audience, but I had done it so many times that I wasn’t the least bit nervous. Had the fire going in just a minute or so. To great applause from the conferees.
that guy—the atrocities committed by the Japanese during WWII were quite extensive, and as the war wound towards it’s close—from my examination of contemporary reporting—were minimized, under, or just not reported.
One particularly ugly example is the history and activities of Japan’s Unit 731, their chemical and biological warfare experiment organization which was active in China and Manchuria for something like 10 years, starting in the mid 1930s.
After the war all involved escaped prosecution because the U.S. made a deal to get the results of their “experiments “ in return for immunity from prosecution.
They scooped up all sorts of people—various unlucky Chinese, communists, some Russians, and various POWs, and conducted horrific experiments on them.
The number of victims experimented on seems to have been around 10,000 ( could be more) and none survived these horrific experiments.
curiously it wasn’t even referenced in that so called debate,
Another painful reminder of the Left’s politicization of crime and criminalization of politics: yesterday, it was reported that Michael Byrd, the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt on January 6th, has been promoted to Captain (https://tinyurl.com/3rfpv6nr).
Meanwhile, Derek Chauvin rots in jail for the bad luck of being in the same place as a felon who took an overdose of fentanyl.
And Trump will go to prison.
And Jordan Peterson will be sent to a political re-education camp.
Frederick @ 11:56,
Precisely. I personally have been pushed across the red line, thus my comment a couple days ago about not supporting any weasels. I tried to explain my reasoning but couldn’t. But you have captured it incredibly well. Thank you.
Suggestion: Consider retaining some of the lint from your dryer’s lint filter for use as that kindling. The stuff is tailor made for that purpose. I keep it in a ziplock bag, as you don’t want it having access to oxygen, just in case it self-ignites from various natural causes.
}}} Of course, with emergency machete and hunting knife, one would be wise to have emergency matches, too.
Yeah, but if the current crop of lefties have their way, you’ll run out of matches and be unable to replace them… :-/
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I vaguely remember trying to do that at Boy Scout camp about a zillion years ago. All I remember is that it was not easy and I don’t believe I could ever get it to light.
When they get rid of NG we will be rubbing sticks together to cook the Ribeyes.
Biden’s DOJ is suing Space X for essentially following the law by not hiring illegal ali- sorry “asylees”.
Strange, powerful ad from pro-DeSantis PAC slams Trump for not prosecuting Hillary Clinton. It could backfire. It makes Trump look far more humane and human than the current regime.
Abraxas on August 25, 2023 at 10:38 am said:
Strange, powerful ad from pro-DeSantis PAC slams Trump for not prosecuting Hillary Clinton. It could backfire. It makes Trump look far more humane and human than the current regime.
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I really, really hate this new trend of articles saying I should watch something, but which don’t show the video. Just a X-Twitter link. Often that takes more than one more click – if it plays at all.
I don’t get it. Why make your site less user-friendly?
I notice that video is edited, and never says just how LONG it took to heat up the shavings.
Nonapod,
The SpaceX thing looks damning (and ludicrous), but it could be nothing. Large companies are sued ALL THE TIME. Often for nutty, baseless, insane things. Deep pockets. Attorneys, employees and non-employees know they can often get a quick paycheck from a company willing to settle to avoid paying legal fees, even when the complainant’s case is without merit.
I’ve been party to several cases brought by government entities when disgruntled, former employees register meritless complaints.
During his recent remarkable interview (remarkable, I believe, for the piercing questions which Carlson dared to ask) with former President Trump, Tucker Carlson listed the escalating trajectory of failed attempts by the Left to try to neutralize Trump, and asked the question, “why wouldn’t the Left try to kill you, honestly?
Trump did not answer this question, but did say, “they are savage animals.”
Carlson’s final question was whether Trump saw us “moving towards Civil War?
Trump did not answer this question directly, but he did say that “there is a level of passion I’ve never seen” …”and a level of hatred I’ve never seen,” and “that’s probably a bad combination.” *
Some reports estimate that some 150 million people tuned into this interview.
See the full interview here at https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2023/08/full-video-donald-trump-interview-with-tucker-carlson-aug-23/
no it’s lawfare, like putin practices against khodorkovsky or the heads of most the opposition media, erdogan does the same, same in islamabad,
Following on SHIREHOME’s comment, they are now going after, of all things, ceiling fans!! Since I doubt anyone can be so numerically illiterate to think ceiling fan motor efficiency will have any effect on the net energy consumption, this must be another piece of the ongoing effort to control every item of energy usage in every house by the government. Definitely knaves, not fools.
They would hate our new house that we finally just moved into. Gas cooktop, gas grill, gas powered backup generator, and heaven forbid,ceiling fans in every room and even in the lanai. Oh, and in the height of hypocrisy, the house got a 5 star energy rating from the “gubmint”. LOL
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/08/25/biden-administration-climate-police-are-now-coming-after-yourceiling-fan-n2627533
The ad should play if you click on the arrow on the video in the tweet. Maybe you need to be registered with X, but I didn’t have any problems.
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Carlson-Trump interview: Some people are saying that Carlson wasn’t probing enough, but that wasn’t really the point of the interview. It was Carlson and Trump poking Fox. There will probably be more opportunities to ask other questions in later interviews.
I notice too, some in the media contrasting the debate with the “dark” Carlson-Trump interview with its discussion of civil war. Of course, that’s all spin. Ask questions about civil war, and Trump will have to respond somehow. It’s not like he was pushing the idea.
I don’t think most of the people who comment here, and I don’t think neo herself, is the kind of person who puts party politics above everything.
It follows that for each of us here who is not a party hack, there must be something that Republicans could do, or fail to do, that would make us think “Wow, these guys are clueless, or incompetent, or they’ve just been lying all along”.
Whatever that “red line” is for you, imagine that it has been crossed. (For each of us it’s a different thing, so I won’t give an example). If that happens, I think that few of us would be willing to listen to any more arguments about how hard the Republicans tried and how if we don’t vote for them or try to replace them with real conservatives then look what the Dems are going to do. I think we’d be saying, “I’ve been hearing this for years, and all this stuff has been happening, and all these same things were being said, but things just keep getting worse.”
And I think in that case, the only thing that WOULD convince any of us to reconsider would be a demonstration of concrete and effective action to correct the situation. Not only that, we might feel foolish for having gone along with the situation for so long, and be especially distrustful of anyone saying the same things we’ve been hearing this whole time; and we’d be quite unreceptive to a suggestion that it is WE who are the problem for no longer wanting to go along.
Given that’s the case, for some of us this has happened already. For some of us, it hasn’t happened yet, but the way things are going it will happen in the next 5 – 10 years.
We all have this in common; we’re just at different stages in moving toward it. Thinking about these “red lines” and understanding where we’d be if they were crossed, could be something that helps bring some more unity going forward. Just a thought.
I’m no slouch at linking here, but I always attempt to link to the final destination, not some “start here and keep clicking” page. In this case of the DeSantis ad that is:
–“DeSantis ad on X”
https://twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1693780717803909220
dialing down the ambient noise
https://boe.hawaii.gov/Meetings/Notices/Meeting%20Material%20Library/GBM_08242023_Report%20on%20Report%20of%20the%20Superintendent.pdf
we note some distressing details
Ceiling Fans? I thought that the electric motors were pretty efficient. We put in MiniSplits several years ago and love them. Great for A/C and Heat because I can control the temps by room, not the whole house which can be wasteful.
I guess I could hire a couple of illegals to wave the fans over us to keep us cool. Then we would not be sued like they are Musk.
Takes about 5-10 minutes normally (I have done a few times just for the fun of it- the longest part is getting the groove and the end of the stick smooth enough that you can speed up the back and forth motion enough to create hot embers. It is tiring- almost no one can do what he did for even 2 minutes straight- you do it for a minute, rest 30 seconds, another minute, etc. There are better ways which anyone can find on-line that make use of mechanical leverage to do the work more efficiently.
Of course, with emergency machete and hunting knife, one would be wise to have emergency matches, too.
@physics guy at 11:28:
It is immaterial to the guvmnt that you probably paid an arm and a leg for your new house with natural gas fixtures and ceiling fans. (BTW, congratulations) You are helping the economy for a while, and when they decide to ban/shut down everything, it will be immaterial to them that you basically are unable to live anymore. “You will own nothing and be happy.”
physicsguy,
Glad to hear your home is finished and you and your wife have moved into it. I wish you all the best!
Frederick,
I think you are correct, most everyone has a line. With me (and I’m likely not alone), there is no line because I’m not even on the field. I think parties are an abomination and the U.S.’ two major parties, in particular, do more harm than good to we citizens’ ability to have optimal government.
So, I’m never disappointed by the Republicans or their candidates because my base assumption is they are not working for me, or my interests. When they do it’s a nice, occasional surprise.
In politics people are naturally going to work together on common causes and that, invariably will lead to political parties, or something like them, but I have no loyalty to any as they are currently constituted in the U.S.
Since we have only two with any chance of winning both parties scramble to shoehorn every single issue into their platform and their stance often simply becomes the opposite of what the other party adopts. I imagine 30% or more of regular Democrat voters are pro 2nd amendment. I imagine 30% or more of regular Republican voters are pro gay marriage, etc… If we had a strong labor party, corporate party, green party, Christian party, sportsmen party, education party… People could pick and choose based on what their concerns are in any election and parties would be forced to caucus and horse trade to get anything done.
A fire bow is more efficient, but takes more prep and you probably lose a shoe lace, which is a different problem.
Given the news about what just happened to Prigozhin, it would seem a logical question to ask Trump, if he feared assassination.
So now–if, indeed, anywhere near the estimated 150 million people watched this interview–that possibility, that meme (which I am sure has already occurred to a lot of people) has now been injected into a wider public consciousness.
The same for the idea of the potential for Civil War.
There are no doubt many Democrats who would welcome some form of violence that could prevent a Trump-driven inquiry into corruption in the government, because otherwise, they would be facing jail time.
And by “many”, I mean thousands of powerful people. Sobering.
Good lord these people are good!
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-pays-12-extra-to-get-the-cool-laser-background-mugshot
Mike Plaiss:
Truly awesome! “pew, pew, pew”
Thanks for the link. I’ll be sharing it with all my peeps.
Reminds me of the episode in Star Trek Voyager where the crew was marooned on a primitive planet. The ships XO, who was supposed to be some kind of Indian, was trying and failing to start a fire with a stick. He told someone they had the luck of being stranded with the only Indian who could not start a fire.Then someone used human hair to further the process along.
I can do the same thing easy. Take a piece of dry wood and a wooden stick match. Strike match, light wood.
only marginal improvement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=briM3doNrXA
@ Snow on Pine
Noticed those two Tucker interview questions too. And same observation, Trump chose to defuse rather than inflame.
***
Had one more reply to our earlier thread on Japan.
• Definitely not surprised by the Japanese cook staff’ reaction to the Korean officer – and good for the Korean officer for being willing to eat there – it was not just the Nazis that did criminal things.
• Your warning about not drinking the milk reminded of the time we were visiting Paris – Summer after 2nd grade – and we could not get ice cream cones at the Eiffel Tower because my aunt – who lived in Paris – told my parents it was not safe.
• Not sure if it was due to TB, but I am sure we did not get beer as a substitute. However, every time we visited Europe, I did get about two fingers worth of wine at dinner – which I always enjoyed.
• Understand his reaction – had a reason to fear government officials – and on a more serious note, we are headed in that direction too.
Lastly, I do not want to even imagine what you saw in a hospital that supported young Serviceman – especially in an overseas location.
physicsguy, congratulations on finally moving in! I hope the house will meet all your expectations.
I did that friction fire starting in Boy Scouts but used a bow to spin the stick. Very time consuming and the materials must be very dry.
Moved up to flint and steel. That requires charred cloth as a receptacle for the spark. Takes about two or three strikes to get a spark to enter the char. Then you use dried, shredded bark as tinder. Put the glowing char in the center of a ball of tinder, then blow on it gently. Have a teepee of smaller sticks to put the flaming tinder under. Voila, you have a campfire.
I won the fire-starting contest at several Boy Scout jamborees in the 1940s. As a result, I was selected to start the opening campfire for the National Boy Scout Conference when it was held in my hometown. A bit of pressure performing before such a big audience, but I had done it so many times that I wasn’t the least bit nervous. Had the fire going in just a minute or so. To great applause from the conferees.
that guy—the atrocities committed by the Japanese during WWII were quite extensive, and as the war wound towards it’s close—from my examination of contemporary reporting—were minimized, under, or just not reported.
One particularly ugly example is the history and activities of Japan’s Unit 731, their chemical and biological warfare experiment organization which was active in China and Manchuria for something like 10 years, starting in the mid 1930s.
After the war all involved escaped prosecution because the U.S. made a deal to get the results of their “experiments “ in return for immunity from prosecution.
They scooped up all sorts of people—various unlucky Chinese, communists, some Russians, and various POWs, and conducted horrific experiments on them.
The number of victims experimented on seems to have been around 10,000 ( could be more) and none survived these horrific experiments.
“The More You Know, The Less You Carry”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIUI401zuU
P.S.—I point out that these 10,000 experimented on and ultimately killed was a far greater number killed than were killed by the Nazi’s Dr. Mengele.
the distinction between a regime based on consent and one that isn’t, warning about language,
https://twitter.com/a_newsman/status/1695181171712295343
curiously it wasn’t even referenced in that so called debate,
Another painful reminder of the Left’s politicization of crime and criminalization of politics: yesterday, it was reported that Michael Byrd, the Capitol Police officer who murdered Ashli Babbitt on January 6th, has been promoted to Captain (https://tinyurl.com/3rfpv6nr).
Meanwhile, Derek Chauvin rots in jail for the bad luck of being in the same place as a felon who took an overdose of fentanyl.
And Trump will go to prison.
And Jordan Peterson will be sent to a political re-education camp.
I need a scorecard.
Even a monkey knows about fairness.
See this very funny video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg
Frederick @ 11:56,
Precisely. I personally have been pushed across the red line, thus my comment a couple days ago about not supporting any weasels. I tried to explain my reasoning but couldn’t. But you have captured it incredibly well. Thank you.
Suggestion: Consider retaining some of the lint from your dryer’s lint filter for use as that kindling. The stuff is tailor made for that purpose. I keep it in a ziplock bag, as you don’t want it having access to oxygen, just in case it self-ignites from various natural causes.
}}} Of course, with emergency machete and hunting knife, one would be wise to have emergency matches, too.
Yeah, but if the current crop of lefties have their way, you’ll run out of matches and be unable to replace them… :-/