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The case for a Biden impeachment

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I’m not usually in favor of impeachment when it’s a foregone conclusion that there will never be a conviction. But Margot Cleveland makes a good case for impeaching Biden nevertheless:

The evidence of President Joe Biden’s corruption during his time as vice president is now so overwhelming and the implications so serious, the disparate investigations underway in the House and Senate can no longer suffice. Nor can the Department of Justice and the FBI — even under the auspices of a special counsel — be trusted to oversee the investigation given the overwhelming evidence that they obstructed the probe into the Biden family.

There is only one option left that can deliver truth and transparency to the American public, and that is an impeachment inquiry that investigates not just President Joe Biden, but Attorney General Merrick Garland, U.S. Attorney David Weiss, and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

In other words, because the MSM, the DOJ, and the FBI are in corrupt collusion with the Bidens, all of them need to be bypassed in order to get the word out to the American people.

A special counsel won’t do, either:

A belated appointment of a special counsel is untenable because, beyond interfering with congressional oversight and delaying a transparent accounting to the American people, the necessary investigation includes both the DOJ and FBI, the heads of both agencies, and, at minimum, one U.S. attorney. Thus the attorney general’s control over any special counsel appointment creates an untenable conflict of interest.

I think that reasoning is quite convincing. However, I’m not at all sure that even an impeachment inquiry would get the word out to enough people. Would the MSM cover it? And wouldn’t it just be framed as “Republicans pounce!” and “Republicans are just acting to avenge the impeachments of Trump, which of course were completely valid whereas this one is not.”

I still think it needs to be done.

NOTE: I just saw this article, “Speaker McCarthy Warms Up to Impeaching Joe Biden.”

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The case for a Biden impeachment — 39 Comments

  1. Very good indeed is the case for the impeachment of the senile buffoon, as well as for Mayorkas and Garland (a truly destructive and odious triumvirate), the inevitable result in the Senate notwithstanding! No-one should ever forget that Trump was impeached over the lies and the stupidity concocted by the “Deep State” concerning his telephone conversation inquiring, quite properly, into the undeniable evidence of the scandal of “Ukraine-gate”, the Biden criminal clan being linked with the most corrupt elements in Kiev’s commercial and political establishment.

  2. I don’t think impeachment is going to happen…just look at the headlines!

    McCarthy Says 783rd Impeachable Offense By Biden Will Be The Last Straw

    from the bee

  3. I doubt this could happen. One problem is the large number of members of both parties that are dirty. Trump stood out and was hated because he was clean. How many members of Congress could stand what Trump went through?

  4. we saw this with the clinton impeachment, the dems hire pirates, we hire jimmy stewart, or perhaps a less curmudgeonly wilford brimley in durham,

  6. I think it should happen just to try and push the MSM to cover something…anything, of this corrupt, treasonous SOB. That’s the only way to get some of the clueless LIVs and maybe the very few D voters who might actually have a conscience to realize the crime family that inhabits the WH.

    However, as others have indicated, we are talking the spineless GOP here, so my overall view is nothing is going to happen. And, unless the plans to remove Biden come true, then either he or Newsom will be the next POTUS come 2024.

  7. I think the problem is in the definition of the word.
    That is, impeachment is something that only Republicans deserve and should get, good and hard.
    Not Democrats.
    Not at all.
    Wouldn’t dream of it.
    What awful person is even thinking of doing something like that?
    By definition.

    Try to impugn and impeach a Republican? You’ll get a crazed lynch mob backing you vociferously, perfervidly, every step of the way. (Heck they’ll even make things up so as to make themselves even more excited, pumped up and venomous…OTOH, they’re ALWAYS making things up…)
    Try to impugn and impeach a Democrat? You’ll get lectured on how awful you are.
    By definition.
    ‘Tis the way of the Democratic Party world.
    (And look at what they’re doing to RFK Jr., who, I must say, is handling himself with great dignity and aplomb. Stray off the plantation? Wander off the reservation? And YOU ARE DEAD MEAT. Q.E.D.)

    Yep, the Democrats ARE is the political party that gives cargo cults a good name…

  8. impeachment doesn’t mean anything anymore, the dems were so outraged about milquetoast ken starr and gingrich, oh the huge manatee, then they went whole hog with orange man, same would apply to mayorkas and garland, who have committed removable offenses, but they fortified the senate against that didn’t they,

  9. At minimum it should be done, preferably at least twice, to reinforce the lesson that when Dems abuse impeachment that Republicans will retaliate in kind. If it’s important to restore the norm against impeachment any time the House is controlled by the other party, this should be accompanied by a non-public assurance that all can go back to how it was if the Dems stop abusing impeachment. The Dems might not choose to restore that norm, and we can all end up impeaching every President once a week if need be. Alternatively, the Dems might decide that impeachment is too important a Constitutional safeguard to be made silly, and promise to reasonable in the future.

    The promises are enforced the way the only way they can be, just like the norm against chemical weapons in warfare: through retaliation for breaching the promise.

    I’m thinking this won’t happen for two reasons: Trump is an outsider and House Republicans mostly don’t care how many times or for what Trump gets impeached. The other is that the GOP in Congress is not a real opposition party, it’s a bring-home-the-bacon party and actually punishing the Dems for anything makes it harder to get their cronies’ appropriations through.

  10. At this point I’d just be happy if it led to historians admitting Biden is completely corrupt. (Number 12 for integrity? Are all historians drunk?) Then again finding out how much stuff in my high school history classes (in the 80s) were utter myths I’m not holding my breath.

  11. Notice that RINO McCarthy will only do an impeachment over “serious charges”. Trump was impeached on 2 completely bogus charges. Biden should have been impeached 2x already! Kevi should have removed Pelosi and a half dozen others from all committees. Kevi is owned and operated by the Ruling Elite. There are probably 10 Republican Senators that will vote Not Guilty to any charges. It’s all Kabuki Bukakke Theatre.

  13. Republicans have to rationally convince people that what they want to do is right, and many people aren’t going to be convinced by reason. Democrats have a captive audience that applauds whatever they do. That’s why it was so easy to impeach Trump over nothing and why it’s taking so long to get the impeachment process for Biden going, even though we know he is guilty. Mayorkas and Garland, likewise.

    I saw a copy of the massive Mueller report on the library second-hand book sale shelf. Some people actually thought there was enough to Russiagate to buy the book (if not to read it). The media ginned up an interest in that nothingburger as eagerly as they are suppressing the Biden family scandals now. It made me wonder how much of the agitation about past scandals was artificially produced by the media and how many real scandals they ignored.

  14. The question to be asking is, ‘What will it take to overthrow the compliance of the media acting in obedience to its current master? What will it take to replace the diktat?”

    The answer will always be money. Only one money-man has been willing to pony up so far, and that’s Elon Musk. And he did it in the name of Free Speech, not politics. Who will step up next? It’s not really huge amounts of money, in the scheme of things. If that dam should start to crack in any meaningful way.

    Calling John Malone….. Mr. Malone…..

  15. In a sane world, or even semi-sane (say, 30 years ago), Biden would be impeached. In a sane world, a decent minority of Democrats would be shocked and outraged, with more than a few calling for his resignation. In a sane world, even though the majority of Democrats might defend him and oppose impeachment or a resignation, they would still pay lip service to the allegations being serious and that the President demonstrated a serious lapse in judgment and ethically compromised himself. In a sane world, this would be headline news (albeit with a liberal spin) in most mainstream media outlets.

    But we don’t live in a sane world. And we haven’t in a long time. We live in ‘TrumpWorld’; by that I mean, for almost half the country (and a vast majority of one political party) Trump is the ultimate evil, pure darkness, and everything must be judged in relation to this evil. Joe Biden is opposed to Trump, therefore he is opposed to ultimate evil, therefore he must be protected and defended at all costs. Otherwise, Trump (e.g. Ultimate Evil) will certainly prevail.

  16. We all know it should happen. We all know it won’t happen.

    And in our heart of hearts, we all know that far too many Americans are undeserving of the liberties they take for granted.

    We all know that which is not valued… will not be maintained.

    And we all know that an increasingly large percentage of Americans are throwing away that which they do not value.

    “Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it.”
    Letter from John Adams to Abigail Adams, 7 July 1775

    “Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.” Abraham Lincoln

    Those who vote democrat are enabling the fashioning of the chains of their future enslavement. Those chains are now easy to see; cancel culture, lockdowns enforcing obedience, mandatory vaccinations, Central Bank Digital Currency (cbdc), ESG scores and ‘Social Credit’ scoring systems. All of which have and are being implemented around the world.

  17. A Modest Proposal

    Donald Trump should declare that he is running on one key policy initiative, and that is the removal from office of every corrupt federal government official, elected or appointed, starting with the current President, Biden.

    Even if Donald Trump were to be elected, success could only be possible with strong legislative majorities also pledged to the same objective. This would necessarily require a widespread defeat of incumbents.

    After an election laser-focused on such a choice, if Trump was NOT elected, the possibility of law-based reform would realistically have been forfeited, and other approaches to the revitalization of the Tree of Liberty would have to be considered.

  19. I FAVOR SUMMARY CITIZEN TRIALS of the lying and corrupt for treason and violating their Oaths of Office, followed by gallows on the National Mall, followed by their swift execution with blood filling Potomac. I always have. But the problem remains: there’s not enough gallows. Too many are drenched with guilt.

    And yet. Isn’t there a scene or two from the last “Hunger Games” movie that shows us how to do this for the masses? To educate and expiate the mass of people?

  20. It’s a disgrace that the MSM is covering up the Biden corruption. Would they cover it if an impeachment was carried out? Only in a pro-Biden, anti-Republican way. Would that change any minds? Maybe.

    I have a cousin who says of Trump, “There’s too much smoke there for there to be no fire (guilty actions.)” Well, maybe some moderates would say the same of Biden, but I think an impeachment might be as unpalatable to most citizens as the January 6th hearings were.

    There’s only one solution. Win in 2024. It can be done, but it will require lots of money and organization in the swing states. So far, I don’t see that happening.

  22. It could be the only way to get Sundowner out of there, but just as the Democrats Propaganda Ministry won’t reporting other tana Republican tactic and the Eff Bee Eye and Democrats Other Justice nyo Democrats/ Socialists/ Marxists will vote to impeach

  23. The Republicans on the investigating committees are so delighted to have screen time that they are wasting the opportunity to develop the charges.

    Instead of having members spend time showing off and then asking the same questions over and over they should select experienced prosecutor and have him/her develop cogent narratives, giving that person their time.

    They are blowing this, it is pathetic.

    He obviously will not be removed, and the poor development of solid evidence backed narratives just lets the MSM blow them off.

    Letting time pass in the knowledge that he will destroy himself is the best current alternative.

    He should eventually be impeached, and the Senators who vote against removal should be blasted when they run again, but to do that a series of unquestioned narratives must be created and supported. Surely there must be experienced prosecutors in the GOP who can handle this.

  24. I think it’s a possibility that Biden could be impeached and removed from office. The Dems would get to pretend that they put principle over politics and would still get to install their next puppet. I’d say that the chances of that would go up if Harris steps aside and lets someone else (Hillary? Newsom? Oprah?) take her place as VP first.

  25. A Biden impeachment inquiry in the House would be like Nero fiddling while Rome burns.

  27. If they connected all the dots: Biden’s corruption, the efforts made by Democrats and their partisans in the DOJ and MSM to hide it, and the current global political state of affairs; then it would be worth the time and effort. We know the information is there. Democrats in the Senate can do whatever, but they’ll either keep the albatross or not.

    If it fails miserably, as in the Republicans fail to make the points succinctly and without error, then it won’t matter anyway. Corruption this widespread and left unchecked is a danger to us all.

  28. well we know the benghazi inquiry was a joke, in part because foghorn gowdy was at least partially involved in this matter,

  30. “Claude” (https://claude.ai/login) is a new LLM (large language model) AI (artificial intelligence) assistant. A free beta version is currently available. I’ve just started testing it; but, so far, I like it better than ChatGPT.

    For me, two features have made it worth a look:

    1. It’s open to the internet, so it can write responses based on recent information.

    2. Users can attach large files and ask for a response to them.

    As an example, I saved Margot Cleveland’s article as a file, then attached it to Claude.
    _________________________________________________________

    Here’s the first request that I made:

    Write a brief response to the attached file. Response should be from the point of view of a Trump supporter.

    And here’s the response from Claude:

    Here is a potential response from the perspective of a Trump supporter:

    This article lays out exactly why President Trump was right all along about the Biden crime family. The evidence of Joe Biden’s corruption is overwhelming and undeniable. He clearly leveraged his position as Vice President to enrich his family through shady deals with Ukraine. The fact that the DOJ and FBI covered this up shows they are just deep state cronies trying to protect Biden.

    Now we have brave whistleblowers coming forward to expose the truth that real patriots at the FBI tried to investigate Biden but were blocked at every turn. Trump was unjustly persecuted over fake Russia collusion lies while the FBI gives Biden a free pass on actual high crimes. It’s a disgraceful double standard.

    The time has come for Biden to be impeached to hold him accountable. But we can’t trust the corrupt DOJ and FBI to handle any part of this investigation. Anything short of a full impeachment inquiry led by Republicans in Congress will be just another Deep State whitewash.

    President Trump endured endless investigations over nothing. Now it’s Biden’s turn to face the music over his obvious Ukraine bribery scheme and the government cover-up. Justice demands we impeach Biden now before the truth is buried again. Trump supporters will accept nothing less.
    ___________________________________________________________

    Here’s the second request that I made:

    Write a brief rational response to the attached file.

    And here’s the response from Claude:

    I do not have enough information to determine if the claims in the article warrant starting impeachment proceedings against President Biden. However, I can make a few points:

    The article alleges corruption and impropriety by President Biden based on some whistleblower accounts and reporting around Hunter Biden’s business dealings. However, the details are still emerging and need to be fully investigated before conclusions can be drawn.

    Impeachment is an extremely serious process that should have bipartisan support and clear evidence of “high crimes and misdemeanors.” It should not be undertaken lightly based only on partisan accusations.

    Oversight and investigation by Congress is reasonable and appropriate. However, launching a full impeachment inquiry is premature without solid evidence of impeachable offenses by President Biden himself.

    Trust in institutions like the DOJ and FBI is important, but they should also be held accountable. If evidence emerges of impropriety, it should be addressed. But that has not been clearly established yet.

    More fact-finding is needed before such serious steps as impeachment are considered. This should be done in a non-partisan way focusing on the truth, not political motives.

    In summary, these are serious allegations but they require serious, careful investigation before jumping to impeachment. Oversight is reasonable but a measured, bipartisan approach based on facts is vital.

  31. I FAVOR SUMMARY CITIZEN TRIALS of the lying and corrupt for treason and violating their Oaths of Office, followed by gallows on the National Mall,

    Great definition of a lynch mob, but to achieve ‘governance’ requires a lot more.

  32. Re Insufficiently sensitive – Maybe.

    But consider the alternatives. It could get worse.

    For example, the fairly brilliant Video-blogger 22 year old Rudyard Lynch argues that an American version of the French Revolution is inevitable.
    https://youtu.be/2yuZp5JX2mI

  33. It would certainly be great for cable news ratings and giving legislators and candidates an opportunity to claim they’re “doing something” (even though they’re not)! And it would relieve the Dems of a massive embarrassment/political liability and allow them to replace that with some less well known failure/disaster they can all get behind, all while blaming the Republicans for “interfering,” “seizing,” “pouncing,” “lying,” etc. AND (bonus points), it would “justify” and/or at least nominally balance the shenanigans against Trump since “everyone does it.” Basically, it would take up time and focus so everyone can pay less attention to the broken election system and pretend to be all outraged when another Dem gets elected with more people voting than currently exist on the planet.
    So, no thanks!

  35. Dick Illyes on July 26, 2023 at 7:09 am said:
    Surely there must be experienced prosecutors in the GOP who can handle this.

    Good point. Perhaps Chris Christie, Trey Gowdy, or Cully Stimson (see this Heritage interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRt6HuX9TAg ) ??

    Although now I see that miguel cervantes on July 26, 2023 at 9:38 am
    has a much lower opinion of Growdy. Any other candidates? Perhaps someone with a lower national exposure??

  36. Impeachment – specifically, of Biden – is important because it could demonstrate, first, that standards exist and second, that adherence to those standards is crucial to maintaining a functioning Constitutionally-based Republic. As in, “do the citizens control the government, as the Constitution specifies, or does the government control the citizens, in defiance of Constitutional restrictions.”

    The alternative is destructon of a functional republic and, probably, some degree of armed civil conflict. (As to when such confict might arise I have no idea whatsoever, nor any idea of its scope should it occur, but circumstances would raise the possibility from “nearly zero” to “probably, at some point.” It would seem reasonable to take measures to avoid that.)

  37. cully stimson is someone I don’t have a jaundiced view of, they literally tried to disbar him for handling those innocent shepherds at gitmo, yes hes the grandson of that stimson, whose career went back to the rough riders,

  38. Aggie…”The answer will always be money. Only one money-man has been willing to pony up so far, and that’s Elon Musk. And he did it in the name of Free Speech, not politics”

    Which is why everyone who believes in free speech needs to sign up for twitter, if they haven’t already. Yeah, one account doesn’t matter much in the scheme of things, but neither does one vote or one $50 political contribution.

    A lot of people seem reluctant to joint Twitter…not sure what they’re afraid of.

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