Trump’s arraignment: no one should be surprised by what is happening today
Trump’s arrest and conviction for something has been a goal from the start. By “the start” I don’t mean from the day he declared his candidacy in 2015. At that point he was treated mostly as a joke and a loser by the left. Then later, they wanted him to be the nominee because they thought he didn’t have a chance to win in the general. But when he actually won they were flabbergasted and distraught – although “distraught” is way too mild a word for it. They were devastated, enraged, and then quickly energized. The self-described “resistance” took charge at that point, casting itself in the mold of the heroes of WWII who defied Hitler. And in that endeavor, anything and everything was allowed and encouraged.
That included the Beria approach: show me the man and I’ll show you the crime. To that end we saw two ridiculous impeachments, almost countless frame-ups, and now this: 34 counts related to falsifying records of the hush money paid to Stormy Daniels, and a not guilty plea. That means that the leaks from the grand jury – and leaks of grand jury testimony are felonies, although no one connected with Trump’s persecution/prosecution will ever be charged for that – were essentially correct in their description of what the charges would be.
This is a travesty and an extremely sad day. But it’s a day that has been telegraphed for a long long time. I don’t see why Trump wouldn’t be found guilty, considering that this is a political trial in a blue blue city. Justice is irrelevant in this sort of thing; getting Trump is what matters.
Here’s the text of some quick notes of a draft that I wrote on 12/5/22
Imprisonment of Trump and family
Dreyfus type stuff
His life is already utterly changed and unfree. He gave up a lot but they want him to give up everything, including his liberty. And they may just succeed.
As with so many of my drafts, I never fleshed it out and finished it. Now I’ve decided to leave it in that raw form just to show how obvious it was that this day would happen. And I don’t think they’re anywhere near finished with Trump, or with his children for that matter.
Sorry to be so pessimistic. As usual when I’m pessimistic, I hope I’m wrong.
Unsurprised at anything that goes on in America’s corrupt political system. Though Trump may be no philosopher king, at least he is willing to give up his liberty, fortune, and possibly his life, for actual Americans, or those of us who are left anyway. Are there any other politicians willing to do this? In my opinion no. Even those like Kari Lake, or MTG, or others who talk big, are unwilling to walk the walk. They mostly just want the reins of power, unfortunately.
I skimmed the indictment. All the counts relate to actions that happened in 2017. I won’t drill down and verify NY criminal law, but I’m told that NY has a 2 year statue of limitations.
Therefore, on the face of the Indictment it should be dismissed.
I didn’t see any citation to federal law. And there were no allegations related to tolling.
The criminal law is strictly construed. Unless I’m missing something, this is a slam dunk. Dismissed.
Cornhead:
Isn’t there something in the NY statute of limitations that, if a person lives outside the state, the clock stops running? Trump is domiciled in Florida.
Neo:
I don’t know. But the State has to allege facts for tolling to occur. It has to be in the Indictment. At least that’s the civil law standard e.g. medical malpractice was committed on me 4 years ago, but I was still a minor and now I am of majority age and have been for 1 year.
§ 175.10. Falsifying business records in the first degree
“A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.
Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.”
No allegations of what the other crime is. Indictment dismissed.
In 2017, Trump was domiciled in the White House.
I’m trying to figure out how checks written by the family trust is a campaign expense that has to be reported. Campaign finance is about not defrauding contributors to your campaign. Spending your own money is something you can do without informing anyone.
Oh well, it is another 12 months of wall to wall Trump coverage for the media.
Democrats are prisoners of offended pride and the knowledge of their own unjust reaction, which offends them more. It’s a vicious circle.
Leland:
It seems to me that the charges are very similar to the legal shenanigans in the case against Netanyahu, in which the basic charge was that anything that helps your campaign needs to be reported as either a campaign contribution (in Netanyahu’s case) or a campaign expense (in Trump’s case). These laws were not meant to be used this way and for the most part they haven’t been, but they have become very useful to the “ends justifies the means” left.
Leland:
Yes, first in the White House (and also immune from criminal prosecution of any sort during his tenure as president), then in Florida.
The judge has a daughter who works in the Biden regime. No bias there, of course. Trump would have no more chance of change of venue than Derek Chauvin had. The beast must be fed.
Where did Trump vote while president? If New York, from his Trump Tower address, he may have been resident in NY until 2021.
Neo said, “That included the Beria approach: show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”
I take a small measure of comfort from the fact that Beria underwent a show trial in 1953 and was then dragged to his execution crying, collapsing, and begging for his life– just like his predecessor Yezhov in 1940. There is a short (9-minute) video about Beria’s life and crimes; the section about his execution begins at 6:38.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grtQpT05q9U&ab_channel=TheFortress
The swamp has been out to get Trump for years. Rember what the Manhattan Contrarian wrote about the NY DA office. Bragg finally decided to just make something up.
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-3-11-a-couple-of-really-smart-guys-set-out-to-prosecute-donald-trump
In her previously un-posted draft above, Neo wrote: “[Trump’s] life is already utterly changed and unfree. He gave up a lot but they want him to give up everything, including his liberty. And they may just succeed.”
Right.
And it brings this to mind: In mid-October 2016, Trump gave a speech in reaction to the then-current slime he was being doused with. Here’s the paragraph I especially recall, striking even then:
“This is our moment of reckoning as a society and as a civilization itself. I didn’t need to do this, folks, believe me — believe me. I built a great company, and I had a wonderful life. I could have enjoyed the fruits and benefits of years of successful business deals and businesses for myself and my family. Instead of going through this absolute horror show of lies, deceptions, malicious attacks — who would have thought? I’m doing it because this country has given me so much, and I feel so strongly that it’s my turn to give back to the country that I love.”
Whole transcript is here: https://time.com/4530515/donald-trump-sexual-assault-accusations-transcript/
yep
https://technofog.substack.com/p/analysis-of-the-trump-indictment
more details,
https://twitter.com/OptimisticCon/status/1643385835134554112
We are witness to the creation of a martyr.
The more brutal his oppression, the more pyrrhic their ‘victory’ shall be.
Looking at the cable guide right now, CNN is showing this time slot as “The Indictment of Donald Trump”, like it’s some kind of thriller-drama. I seem to recall a few years ago, similar creative talent: “The Impeachment of Donald Trump”. There’s big magic in those words, folks. Big. Magic.
I don’t see why Trump wouldn’t be found guilty, considering that this is a political trial in a blue blue city. Justice is irrelevant in this sort of thing; getting Trump is what matters.
–neo
I don’t either. Yet I’m split down the middle.
Despite all the advantages of Big Blue and its overwhelming animus towards Trump, they haven’t gotten him yet … in however many attempts.
The US is not yet Beria’s USSR (and a hat-tip to PA+Cat’s reminder that Beria didn’t die pleasantly in his bed with good vodka in his head). Even a Blue judge and jury might not be able to pull the trigger on Trump for such a blatant witch hunt on flimsy charges well beyond the statute of limitations.
Weak. Very weak tea. I’m still shocked that Bragg wasn’t shut down. This indictment is a joke. It would have been (will be) a little harder to spin a Georgia indictment or a DOJ Special Counsel indictment.
You spin Georgia by arguing that Trump believed that there were problems with the voting and tabulation, so he lacked intent.
You spin a DOJ SC indictment by noting all of the Democrats who clearly committed obstruction but were never charged.
You don’t even have to spin this one. The pleadings are excrement and should be dismissed.
Geoffrey Britain…while I don’t disagree with the “martyr” end of things…
I’m not sure I see how “the more pyrrhic their ‘victory’ shall be” comes to pass.
My sense is they are either trying to elevate Trump to hero status (your “martyr”) so that no other R dares run against him OR to make him toxic to the average voter.
I’m not even sure I can square that circle…spitballing is all I have at the moment.
This is, as others have surely noted, uncharted territory.
Trump was domiciled in NY (legally registered to vote, permanent address @ Trump Tower) until September 2019. Then he officially moved his residence/domicile to Mar A Lago.
This trial has been coming for many, many years. I believe it began in 1972(3) when the first wave of baby boomers in California failed to pass the ethics portion of the Bar Exam (Sacramento). They have never respected our system of law and were instrumental in removing the 10 commandments from courthouses (ACLU). They were also the first to jump into bed with the teamsters when they worked so hard to get teachers unionized and into the teamster’s union (sometime in the late 1970s to early 1980s)
Our Republic, it was great while it lasted.
why bragg is put there to destroy, so is fetterman, so is any of these other hacks crypt keeper evers, witch hochul
It is really about Big Black Balls vs. Big White Balls. My sense is that black men in America have been wanting to do something like this for a very long time.
@Anonymous
This is almost as racist as it is incoherent. You think Sowell has wanted to “do something like this” for a very long time?