Wouldn’t it depend on your Social Strata on what you put on?
Shirehome, Good point. Most people were lucky if they had a second set of clothes for church. Sat night was bath night and laundry night. Same water. They started the week at church with a clean body and their one set of clothes clean.
Virginia Postrel had a piece some years back where she mentioned the wardrobe of a middle class family of 100 years ago (e.g. a cable car operator in SF). Not much to it. I doubt my college age daughter could even imagine such an empty closet.
There is a reason that old homes have very little closet space.
Side note on clothing — I was in 8th grade in 1969-70. Every boy took Shop. Every girl took Home Ec. For three weeks in Jan, the boys and girls traded places. We boys learned a little cooking, a little fashion, etc. We also had to learn to darn a sock.
The relative value of darning time to the value of one sock with or without a hole has changed rather dramatically from whenever the curriculum committee determined that 8th grade boys should know how to darn a sock. As has the percentage of our income devoted to clothing.
Your power is on! Hooray!
Clintons got bags of cash from Chinese military spies. They even hosted the head of Chinese military intelligence in the Oval Office.
They gave the Chinese access to all CIA files and all top secret cables that went through Commerce Dept. John Huang got 57 extensive briefings from the CIA on whatever files he requested. Then faxed all the info to the Riadys who forwarded it to Chinese intelligence.
Thompson committee laid out all the evidence. No one cared. Nothing was done.
Hillary took hundreds of millions from enemies and committed thousands of felonies. No one cared. Nothing was done.
Why does anyone think that Biden’s corruption with secrets and raking in millions could possibly matter? Republicans aren’t going to make it an issue. No one will make it a campaign focus.
And the other shoe drops. While the peanut gallery in DC thinks of classified documents as magical scrolls of mighty importance, the VIPs with actual access know it’s mostly BS and they treat the documents accordingly.
Mike
Since physicsguy is the semi-official tracker of COVID stats for this blog, I’m interested in his (or anyone else’s) take on the FDA’s proposal to offer an annual COVID vaccine like the flu shot– recommended rather than mandated, as far as I can tell.
The [FDA] briefing recommends one shot for healthy people, mainly those with “‘sufficient preexisting immunity,’ through prior infection, vaccination, or combination thereof.” Older people and those with compromised immune systems might need two shots. The FDA described these people as having “insufficient preexisting immunity.”
What could possibly go wrong? (Do I need a /sarc tag?)
Stan —
When I was in Junior High, we had an option of Band, Choir, Home Ec or Shop. Only Junior High Band and Choir permitted two semesters. So, a lot of kids took Home Ec for one semester, and shop the next semester. I was foolish and didn’t take shop the other semester, though I think my choir stint was well served: I am not a complete idiot when it comes to music. Home Ec was a good class: You learned the basics of cooking, (which also involved planning and budgeting), and sewing, We didn’t learn to darn — by that point, socks were cheap enough to be disposable. But I had to learn how to darn to mess with my toe shoes (I took a million years of ballet.)
I majored in Theater in college, which, while not the best preparation for getting a job, was GREAT for surviving as an adult. Costume class taught sewing, stagecraft class taught carpentry and painting skills, lighting class taught electrical skills. And the design classes taught project management: planning, risk management, scope management, scheduling, cost management, resource management, communication management, etc.
I used to read this murder mystery series set in Victorian England. The protagonist was a woman who had married a police officer, but she was from a comfortable background. The author wrote a LOT about clothes. (The protagonist’s sister married very well, and she frequently borrowed dresses from her sister. And her sister’s maid helps her dress, though sometimes the author has the protagonist’s housekeeper help her with dressing. Who frequently disapproves.) I assume the author of those books researched them well enough to giver her readers insight into Victorian life.
MBunge – That’s more confirmation that the MAL raid and the document case against Trump was a witch hunt. And now they’re caught. Why didn’t anybody figure out that if they pursued Trump this way the whole thing was going to boomerang on them? Are we really going to have the DOJ search the homes of all living presidents, vice presidents, senators, and the like?
I remain astounded by the degree to which otherwise intelligent (mostly) left-of-center people turn their brains off on matters related to Trump. How did they think this was going to end?
The news reports that I’ve read have reported that:
It has been proven in a court of law, that the actor and comedian, Bill Cosby, [has done a sexual crime]. A jury in a civil, court case has found Bill Cosby liable for doing this crime.
It has been proven that [Bill Cosby] has done a sexual assault crime, to someone.
In the 1970s, Cosby took Ms. Judy Huth to a party, and forced her to do a sexual act, after taking her into an empty room.
She did not want to do this sexual act, and she did not agree to do this sexual act, either. This was a criminal act done by Mr. Cosby.
I believe that: civil trials don’t use the word, guilty, when the trial(s) prove the defendant did a crime.
Instead- a civil trial says that a defendant has been [found liable] of doing that crime.
At least 60 women have accused Bill Cosby of doing sexual assault crimes.
From what I have learned- sexual assault can also include being [threatened] with a sexual attack and/or being threatened with a rape. This news about Mr. Cosby is understandably, emotionally upsetting.
A lot of people in the US, grew up with Cosby being presented as: a happy, father-like figure, a successful comedian, and his being a person…we thought…was safe to be around. He was a like-able actor, and a hero, to many people: in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, the 1990s, and after.
It is very, sad, and disappointing, to discover- that Mr. Cosby has done this crime to someone.
PA Cat, speaking for myself and my husband, we will not be getting any more mRNA shots for COVID, or for any other diseases, without the extensive testing and follow-up which is usually done for vaccines.
COVID remains dangerous for very fragile individuals, along with flu, RSV, and other infections. For most people, even older people, it’s not very serious any more.
Well, Mike Pence had a crack head son who has been trading on the Pence family name with Xi and all other commers. Oh, that’s, Brandon, not Pence.
Do classified documents contain economically valuable or sensitive information? Certainly not Brandon’s, or I’d be shocked.
Yep it’s all the same. Pence is naive, like Brandon? (sarc)
PA Cat, I agree with Kate. Also, I only track the cases/deaths for the US and selected states. I haven’t done much of anything regarding “vax” data. From what I have read, I do disagree with Neo about the efficacy of these jabs. In hindsight I wish I had never gotten the first two jabs in early 2021, but back then it seemed like a good thing. I wish I had paid more attention to people like Malone at the time.
Addendum to my update from a day or so ago. Cases are falling off a cliff; very steep decline for the last 7 days. It will probably bump up a bit on Thursday as a lot of states only report once a week on Wednesday.
Anecdotal story: a friend who has made sure he has gotten every booster just came down with covid. He self tested at home and it came positive,so he ran over to Duke Med to get a PCR test. He started to feel bad Saturday night, but even today feeling better. I asked him some pointed questions about the efficacy of the shots, and also did it make any real difference just because he knew it was covid?? Very hard to break through the liberal mind set.
physicsguy–
One reason I’ve always been skeptical about the annual flu shot is that the strains of the virus used to formulate it are selected at an annual WHO meeting in February for the flu season that begins half a year later. Obviously a lot of viral mutations can happen in the interim, which is why the success rate of the annual flu shot is pretty low.
For the same reason, I have little faith in the FDA’s (or any other agency’s) ability to formulate a successful annual COVID shot. The only COVID vax I had was the once-and-done Johnson & Johnson (aka Janssen) shot; I thought the viral vector platform was safer than its mRNA counterparts. I’ve had no boosters and no intention of having any. Between the general politicization of the pandemic and the heavy-handed masking and vaccination mandates, I’ve lost the respect I once had for the FDA and the CDC. As many others have noted here, trust once lost is hard to regain. I’m mostly concerned that the FDA’s proposal to offer annual COVID shots is going to lead to another round of mandates and fear-mongering.
Thank you for the update on U.S. cases/deaths, and best wishes to your friend for enlightenment as well as recovery.
Hindsight is better than foresight. We got the mRNA shots in early 2021 because we were in our early seventies and the risk from the disease still looked significant. At the time, it looked like the right decision, and it may be that the eight months or so of protection we got from the Moderna shots saved us trouble. We’ll never know. By the end of 2021, with therapeutics and better treatment protocols in place, we declined the boosters, and that also looks like a good choice. There are preliminary studies, and epidemiological data, which indicate the repeated mRNA shots may be reducing immunity, not boosting it.
There are preliminary studies, and epidemiological data, which indicate the repeated mRNA shots may be reducing immunity, not boosting it.
Kate:
I’ve read that too. Due to the Covid spike somehow.
I may have some wiggle room not to get boosted for this semester. I believe I am already registered and they may not be able to unregister me, only prevent me from registering in the future if the FDA ruling still applies.
Maybe the FDA will relent by then or maybe I won’t care to continue as a student. I am rather disillusioned with the current state of higher education.
huxley, I hope you can avoid the booster. It seems to me entirely unreasonable for the university to require a shot which the CDC now admits does not prevent infection. This means whether students get the shot or not will have no effect on whether COVID circulates on campus.
huxley, I hope you can avoid the booster.
Kate:
Me too. I’ll give it a shot…ahem.
I feel like a character in an dystopian “Twilight Zone” episode.
Citizen huxley, you are four weeks overdue for the latest vaccination. You must comply, then inform the Vaccination Verification Service.
It wasn’t always like this, was it? Have I not been paying attention?
But get serious guys, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has moved up the Doomsday Clock to 90 seconds. What triggered them? Disinformation (amongst other trendy terrors).
Be afraid, be very afraid, or duck and cover. (sarc)
@ om >
The way the world is going, Doomsday (aka the second coming of Christ) can’t come soon enough.
Whether or not California slides into the ocean first remains to be seen.
AesopFan:
____________________
I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian Hotel
I was staring in my empty coffee cup
I was thinking that the gypsy wasn’t lyin’
All the salty margaritas in Los Angeles
I’m gonna drink ’em up
And if California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this hotel will be standing until I pay my bill
Yeah, for what it’s worth, I think “The doomsday clock” is a bunch of baloney. *smirk*
To me- these people are like, “the year 2000…Y2K bug” people.
The “doomsday clock” people say, “The end is near.”
Of course it is, D C people.
…And the radio guy, Howard Stern, will be our new president. 😀 😀
@ huxley > “Desperadoes Under the Eaves”
That’s gotta be one of the best titles ever.
Though I’m not really sure what it means — can’t argue with this:
“But except in dreams you’re never really free”
You Veel Submit!!
(What is “higher education” for, anyway…?)
Re: “Desperadoes Under the Eaves”
AesopFan:
Zevon was battling alcoholism from early on. As I recall the story of the song, he was staying in that hotel with the shakes and he couldn’t pay his bill. He was feeling deperate, hence “Desperadoes”.
He was a fan of history, outlaw characters and ornate old-timey titles like “Desperadoes Under the Eaves” and “Hasten Down the Wind.”
He also composed classical music, which can be heard in the lovely intro to “Desperadoes.”
Zevon wrote one of the most unlikely seventies pop songs, “Veracruz,” about the Battle of Veracruz in 1914. I have no idea how he came to that subject, but it is a perfect ballad, strangely moving.
_________________________
I heard Woodrow Wilson’s guns
I heard Maria crying
Late last night I heard the news
That Veracruz was dying
Veracruz was dying
Someone called Maria’s name
I swear it was my father’s voice
Saying, “If you stay you’ll all be slain
You must leave now – you have no choice
Take the servants and ride west
Keep the child close to your chest
When the American troops withdraw
Let Zapata take the rest”
Wouldn’t it depend on your Social Strata on what you put on?
Shirehome, Good point. Most people were lucky if they had a second set of clothes for church. Sat night was bath night and laundry night. Same water. They started the week at church with a clean body and their one set of clothes clean.
Virginia Postrel had a piece some years back where she mentioned the wardrobe of a middle class family of 100 years ago (e.g. a cable car operator in SF). Not much to it. I doubt my college age daughter could even imagine such an empty closet.
There is a reason that old homes have very little closet space.
Side note on clothing — I was in 8th grade in 1969-70. Every boy took Shop. Every girl took Home Ec. For three weeks in Jan, the boys and girls traded places. We boys learned a little cooking, a little fashion, etc. We also had to learn to darn a sock.
The relative value of darning time to the value of one sock with or without a hole has changed rather dramatically from whenever the curriculum committee determined that 8th grade boys should know how to darn a sock. As has the percentage of our income devoted to clothing.
Your power is on! Hooray!
Clintons got bags of cash from Chinese military spies. They even hosted the head of Chinese military intelligence in the Oval Office.
They gave the Chinese access to all CIA files and all top secret cables that went through Commerce Dept. John Huang got 57 extensive briefings from the CIA on whatever files he requested. Then faxed all the info to the Riadys who forwarded it to Chinese intelligence.
Thompson committee laid out all the evidence. No one cared. Nothing was done.
Hillary took hundreds of millions from enemies and committed thousands of felonies. No one cared. Nothing was done.
Why does anyone think that Biden’s corruption with secrets and raking in millions could possibly matter? Republicans aren’t going to make it an issue. No one will make it a campaign focus.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vice-president-mike-pence-discovered-classified-documents-indiana-home.amp
And the other shoe drops. While the peanut gallery in DC thinks of classified documents as magical scrolls of mighty importance, the VIPs with actual access know it’s mostly BS and they treat the documents accordingly.
Mike
Since physicsguy is the semi-official tracker of COVID stats for this blog, I’m interested in his (or anyone else’s) take on the FDA’s proposal to offer an annual COVID vaccine like the flu shot– recommended rather than mandated, as far as I can tell.
The [FDA] briefing recommends one shot for healthy people, mainly those with “‘sufficient preexisting immunity,’ through prior infection, vaccination, or combination thereof.” Older people and those with compromised immune systems might need two shots. The FDA described these people as having “insufficient preexisting immunity.”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/01/fda-proposing-a-yearly-covid-vaccine-but-some-might-need-two-shots/
What could possibly go wrong? (Do I need a /sarc tag?)
Stan —
When I was in Junior High, we had an option of Band, Choir, Home Ec or Shop. Only Junior High Band and Choir permitted two semesters. So, a lot of kids took Home Ec for one semester, and shop the next semester. I was foolish and didn’t take shop the other semester, though I think my choir stint was well served: I am not a complete idiot when it comes to music. Home Ec was a good class: You learned the basics of cooking, (which also involved planning and budgeting), and sewing, We didn’t learn to darn — by that point, socks were cheap enough to be disposable. But I had to learn how to darn to mess with my toe shoes (I took a million years of ballet.)
I majored in Theater in college, which, while not the best preparation for getting a job, was GREAT for surviving as an adult. Costume class taught sewing, stagecraft class taught carpentry and painting skills, lighting class taught electrical skills. And the design classes taught project management: planning, risk management, scope management, scheduling, cost management, resource management, communication management, etc.
I used to read this murder mystery series set in Victorian England. The protagonist was a woman who had married a police officer, but she was from a comfortable background. The author wrote a LOT about clothes. (The protagonist’s sister married very well, and she frequently borrowed dresses from her sister. And her sister’s maid helps her dress, though sometimes the author has the protagonist’s housekeeper help her with dressing. Who frequently disapproves.) I assume the author of those books researched them well enough to giver her readers insight into Victorian life.
MBunge – That’s more confirmation that the MAL raid and the document case against Trump was a witch hunt. And now they’re caught. Why didn’t anybody figure out that if they pursued Trump this way the whole thing was going to boomerang on them? Are we really going to have the DOJ search the homes of all living presidents, vice presidents, senators, and the like?
I remain astounded by the degree to which otherwise intelligent (mostly) left-of-center people turn their brains off on matters related to Trump. How did they think this was going to end?
The news reports that I’ve read have reported that:
It has been proven in a court of law, that the actor and comedian, Bill Cosby, [has done a sexual crime]. A jury in a civil, court case has found Bill Cosby liable for doing this crime.
It has been proven that [Bill Cosby] has done a sexual assault crime, to someone.
In the 1970s, Cosby took Ms. Judy Huth to a party, and forced her to do a sexual act, after taking her into an empty room.
She did not want to do this sexual act, and she did not agree to do this sexual act, either. This was a criminal act done by Mr. Cosby.
I believe that: civil trials don’t use the word, guilty, when the trial(s) prove the defendant did a crime.
Instead- a civil trial says that a defendant has been [found liable] of doing that crime.
At least 60 women have accused Bill Cosby of doing sexual assault crimes.
From what I have learned- sexual assault can also include being [threatened] with a sexual attack and/or being threatened with a rape. This news about Mr. Cosby is understandably, emotionally upsetting.
A lot of people in the US, grew up with Cosby being presented as: a happy, father-like figure, a successful comedian, and his being a person…we thought…was safe to be around. He was a like-able actor, and a hero, to many people: in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, the 1990s, and after.
It is very, sad, and disappointing, to discover- that Mr. Cosby has done this crime to someone.
https://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/2022/06/bill-cosby-civil-trial-jury-awards-500000-in-sexual-abuse-claim.html
PA Cat, speaking for myself and my husband, we will not be getting any more mRNA shots for COVID, or for any other diseases, without the extensive testing and follow-up which is usually done for vaccines.
COVID remains dangerous for very fragile individuals, along with flu, RSV, and other infections. For most people, even older people, it’s not very serious any more.
Well, Mike Pence had a crack head son who has been trading on the Pence family name with Xi and all other commers. Oh, that’s, Brandon, not Pence.
Do classified documents contain economically valuable or sensitive information? Certainly not Brandon’s, or I’d be shocked.
Yep it’s all the same. Pence is naive, like Brandon? (sarc)
PA Cat, I agree with Kate. Also, I only track the cases/deaths for the US and selected states. I haven’t done much of anything regarding “vax” data. From what I have read, I do disagree with Neo about the efficacy of these jabs. In hindsight I wish I had never gotten the first two jabs in early 2021, but back then it seemed like a good thing. I wish I had paid more attention to people like Malone at the time.
Addendum to my update from a day or so ago. Cases are falling off a cliff; very steep decline for the last 7 days. It will probably bump up a bit on Thursday as a lot of states only report once a week on Wednesday.
Anecdotal story: a friend who has made sure he has gotten every booster just came down with covid. He self tested at home and it came positive,so he ran over to Duke Med to get a PCR test. He started to feel bad Saturday night, but even today feeling better. I asked him some pointed questions about the efficacy of the shots, and also did it make any real difference just because he knew it was covid?? Very hard to break through the liberal mind set.
physicsguy–
One reason I’ve always been skeptical about the annual flu shot is that the strains of the virus used to formulate it are selected at an annual WHO meeting in February for the flu season that begins half a year later. Obviously a lot of viral mutations can happen in the interim, which is why the success rate of the annual flu shot is pretty low.
For the same reason, I have little faith in the FDA’s (or any other agency’s) ability to formulate a successful annual COVID shot. The only COVID vax I had was the once-and-done Johnson & Johnson (aka Janssen) shot; I thought the viral vector platform was safer than its mRNA counterparts. I’ve had no boosters and no intention of having any. Between the general politicization of the pandemic and the heavy-handed masking and vaccination mandates, I’ve lost the respect I once had for the FDA and the CDC. As many others have noted here, trust once lost is hard to regain. I’m mostly concerned that the FDA’s proposal to offer annual COVID shots is going to lead to another round of mandates and fear-mongering.
Thank you for the update on U.S. cases/deaths, and best wishes to your friend for enlightenment as well as recovery.
Hindsight is better than foresight. We got the mRNA shots in early 2021 because we were in our early seventies and the risk from the disease still looked significant. At the time, it looked like the right decision, and it may be that the eight months or so of protection we got from the Moderna shots saved us trouble. We’ll never know. By the end of 2021, with therapeutics and better treatment protocols in place, we declined the boosters, and that also looks like a good choice. There are preliminary studies, and epidemiological data, which indicate the repeated mRNA shots may be reducing immunity, not boosting it.
There are preliminary studies, and epidemiological data, which indicate the repeated mRNA shots may be reducing immunity, not boosting it.
Kate:
I’ve read that too. Due to the Covid spike somehow.
I may have some wiggle room not to get boosted for this semester. I believe I am already registered and they may not be able to unregister me, only prevent me from registering in the future if the FDA ruling still applies.
Maybe the FDA will relent by then or maybe I won’t care to continue as a student. I am rather disillusioned with the current state of higher education.
huxley, I hope you can avoid the booster. It seems to me entirely unreasonable for the university to require a shot which the CDC now admits does not prevent infection. This means whether students get the shot or not will have no effect on whether COVID circulates on campus.
huxley, I hope you can avoid the booster.
Kate:
Me too. I’ll give it a shot…ahem.
I feel like a character in an dystopian “Twilight Zone” episode.
Citizen huxley, you are four weeks overdue for the latest vaccination. You must comply, then inform the Vaccination Verification Service.
It wasn’t always like this, was it? Have I not been paying attention?
indeed,
https://pjmedia.com/culture/robert-spencer/2023/01/24/pope-benedict-unleashes-posthumous-bombshell-on-the-catholic-church-n1664629
But get serious guys, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has moved up the Doomsday Clock to 90 seconds. What triggered them? Disinformation (amongst other trendy terrors).
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/gwendolynsims/2023/01/24/disturbing-scientists-reset-world-doomsday-clock-n1664431
Be afraid, be very afraid, or duck and cover. (sarc)
@ om >
The way the world is going, Doomsday (aka the second coming of Christ) can’t come soon enough.
Whether or not California slides into the ocean first remains to be seen.
AesopFan:
____________________
I was sitting in the Hollywood Hawaiian Hotel
I was staring in my empty coffee cup
I was thinking that the gypsy wasn’t lyin’
All the salty margaritas in Los Angeles
I’m gonna drink ’em up
And if California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this hotel will be standing until I pay my bill
–Warren Zevon, “Desperadoes Under the Eaves”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXCly4X3cqw
____________________
One of Z’s best.
Enjoy every sandwich.
Hi om,
Yeah, for what it’s worth, I think “The doomsday clock” is a bunch of baloney. *smirk*
To me- these people are like, “the year 2000…Y2K bug” people.
The “doomsday clock” people say, “The end is near.”
Of course it is, D C people.
…And the radio guy, Howard Stern, will be our new president. 😀 😀
@ huxley > “Desperadoes Under the Eaves”
That’s gotta be one of the best titles ever.
Though I’m not really sure what it means — can’t argue with this:
“But except in dreams you’re never really free”
You Veel Submit!!
(What is “higher education” for, anyway…?)
Re: “Desperadoes Under the Eaves”
AesopFan:
Zevon was battling alcoholism from early on. As I recall the story of the song, he was staying in that hotel with the shakes and he couldn’t pay his bill. He was feeling deperate, hence “Desperadoes”.
He was a fan of history, outlaw characters and ornate old-timey titles like “Desperadoes Under the Eaves” and “Hasten Down the Wind.”
He also composed classical music, which can be heard in the lovely intro to “Desperadoes.”
Zevon wrote one of the most unlikely seventies pop songs, “Veracruz,” about the Battle of Veracruz in 1914. I have no idea how he came to that subject, but it is a perfect ballad, strangely moving.
_________________________
I heard Woodrow Wilson’s guns
I heard Maria crying
Late last night I heard the news
That Veracruz was dying
Veracruz was dying
Someone called Maria’s name
I swear it was my father’s voice
Saying, “If you stay you’ll all be slain
You must leave now – you have no choice
Take the servants and ride west
Keep the child close to your chest
When the American troops withdraw
Let Zapata take the rest”
–Warren Zevon, “Veracruz”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2qJ0JXjug
_________________________
I don’t know how accurate this history is.