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Open thread 9/1/22 — 21 Comments

  1. Perhaps most of you all knew about this story but I hadn’t really heard about this until a few days ago, but this seems fairly amazing. This journalist was banned from Twitter in August of 2021 oestensibly due to “misinformation” with regards to the Covid vaccines, specifically due to the following Tweet:

    “It doesn’t stop infection. Or transmission. Don’t think of it as a vaccine. Think of it – at best – as a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile that must be dosed IN ADVANCE OF ILLNESS. And we want to mandate it? Insanity.”

    Long story short: He was able to successfuly sue Twitter and get unbanned back in April I believe, which is interesting. But perhaps the bigger part of the story is that during discovery for the case it was revealed that the Biden administration itself requested that Twitter ban him.

    So now he is preparing to sue the Biden administration for violating his first amendment rights. I have no idea if he’ll be successful or not given the lawless, Constitution disrespecting current state of our legal system. But it’s certainly interesting.

  2. Matthew Guariglia
    @mguariglia
    We’re ready to unveil an investigation many have been working on for almost a year: A company that buys geolocation data from “250 million devices” and maps it for police to access without a warrant. ? This gives local police (for a fee) the type of powers we fear the NSA has.

    EFF @EFF
    You’ve never heard of Fog Data Science, but you should have. It’s the company turning your cell phone’s geolocation data into one of the most disturbing and wide-reaching surveillance systems ever used by police in the U.S.
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/inside-fog-data-science-secretive-company-selling-mass-surveillance-local-police

    https://twitter.com/mguariglia/status/1565216521135144960

  3. Yes, neo, I believe so.
    Personally I feel safer to have an investigative journo use the data one time for one story than to have it available for use by all government departments at any time they choose.
    An opt out feature would be nice.

  4. A company that buys geolocation data from “250 million devices” …

    Buys data from whom? It’s got to be Apple and Alphabet I would think. So a) they’re probably cashing in on this, and b) what else are they doing with it other than providing seamless navigation services etc.?

    I was bothered when I heard that police depts. in CA bay area and valley were routinely building a database of time and location data of automobiles using automated license plate readers. Legally, cars are out in public and police are collecting public information. Mostly, that is the same with cell phone location data in some sense.

    But it is also potentially different. For example, a seating chart at a private dinner party probably could be generated from this data. That’s not public information.

    Nobody cares. The usual rationalization is that I don’t plan on killing anyone today, so why worry?

    I’ve often thought that a smartphone with tiny hardware switches to depower the GPS, microphone, and camera separately would be nice. If that device was ever going to happen, it probably would have already.

  5. The current idea among conservative commentators for Sarah Palin’s loss yesterday seems to be that she was simply too divisive and polarizing for moderate voters in Alaska. I have no opinion on that since I just don’t know enough about what’s going on in that state. But assuming that’s true, could that apply to a potential Trump candidacy for 2024? Would he simply too divisive and polarizing for the “moderate” LIVs in 2024?

  6. There are increasing number of opinion leaders convinced, as was Robert Barnes, that the entire MAL is a cover-up attempt to corral incriminating government documents away FROM Trump, going on as a fishing expedition. A new one to me, Mike Davis of the Article III Project, see 32m ff here https://warroom.org/2022/08/31/episode-2118-nigel-farage-on-the-decline-of-the-west-the-american-public-is-disgusted-by-merrick-garland/)

    In short, proof of culpability is deadly to the Deep State’s anti-Trump Jihad.

    I’m expecting just more of the same, if this can be imagined.

  7. Nonapod,

    I think the problem is that the stupid GOP ran another candidate along with Palin. Now that Alaska has gone to California style voting, she lost. Between her and the other candidate they got 60%, but because they split the vote the D got in. As usual. GOP as the stupid party.

  8. Reply to Nona pod.

    Supposing it was Palin (endorsed by Trump), then why are Trump MAGA endorse winning 96% of their races@? No, that makes no sense. No. Instead, it’s like New Hampshire — the institutional and spineless surrender monkeys of the quisling GOP, following in the feckless steps of Romney, are the REAL bitter clingers!

  9. Who is Mike Davis? He clerked with Neil Gorsuch when the future SCOTUS Justice was serving on the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. He also joined Iowa’s Senator Grassley’s team to get his nom through the US Senate. And he now heads rhe Article III Project with Trump’s blessings (support).

  10. Seen online.
    Probably not as bad as it seems?

    https://twitter.com/akheriaty/status/1565456040509853696
    This is very, very concerning information leaked from the Israeli Ministry of Health.

    a research team commissioned by the Israeli MoH warns: “We’ll have to think medical-legal – how to present our findings to avoid lawsuits. Why? Because of quite a few side effects (SEs) we said: ‘OK, it exists and reports exist, BUT STILL GET VACCINATED'”

    The findings revealed a range of long-term SEs, including ones not listed by Pfizer, and a high rate of rechallenge (recurrence of an SE after repeated doses), which as the team repeatedly stresses, establish causal relations with the vaccine.

    Nevertheless, the IMOH withheld the findings for 2 months, even from their own expert committee which decided 3 weeks later to clear the vaccine for infants.

  11. This was a nice touch

    They calculated the denominator of vaccines against the reports of menstrual irregularities using TOTAL NUMBER OF ADULT DOSES – meaning, men were included in the equation of how common menstrual irregularities were.

  12. CNN and MSDNC were the only networks which covered the Biden rant live. I’m guessing the programming directors at the other networks thought propagating the speech wouldn’t be advantageous to the administration.

  13. Why they are responsible for the rancid dumpsterfire own it. The utter chaos he has caused

  14. What’s worse? The Biden speech or Kevin Williamson at NRO.

    “But every election season we hear the same bunk from the same rubes and carnies and the same lame rationalizations from people who know this is bunk from rubes and carnies but think we shouldn’t say so out loud.”

    ““But the other guys are worse!” used to be a pretty persuasive argument, until the Republicans tried to stage a coup d’état and nine-tenths of the conservative commentariat decided to try to justify that or explain it away in the hopes of selling one more doggie-vitamin advertisement. Donald Trump is out there right now calling for himself to be installed as president through some unconstitutional means. And Republicans act like he’s either the Second Coming of George Washington or, at worst, the wacky sitcom neighbor of U.S. politics.”

    “Enough, finally, is enough.”

    Is there a chance Williamson coordinated his column today with the White House?

    What exactly are the policies contained in President Trump’s agenda– the policies of better trade deals, secure border, avoiding endless wars, calling out partners when they aren’t pulling their weight for their own defense, improving the economic circumstances for blue collar, blacks and Hispanics and appointing conservative judges that respect the constitution that they object to?

    Yes, the GOPe isn’t in charge right now– but if they think they can con conservatives again with empty promises– that time is past. President Trump at least made progress in his first four years, often being undermined by people professing to be on the same team.

    The GOPe had their chance, but they took every opportunity to ignore the people they professed to represent.

    Is this just sour grapes, or are they announcing they’re going to blow up the Republican party?

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-normal-politician/

  15. Yes those selfy taking grandmas are a real threat as to water buffalo man it was a perfectly dada display like bluto blutarski

  16. @ Nonapod > ” But perhaps the bigger part of the story is that during discovery for the case it was revealed that the Biden administration itself requested that Twitter ban him.”

    Not the only one, apparently. (via Not the Bee – those guys are really on top of things!)

    BTW, I had wondered why Meta’s Zuckerberg made so many “confessions” to Joe Rogan last week; now it looks like he was trying to set his “I was just an innocent bystander” narrative before this hit the news. I hadn’t seen anything about their original lawsuit, but that’s not surprising.
    What with having to raid Mar-a-lago to confiscate documents that President Trump claimed were covered by executive privilege, and all.

    https://ago.mo.gov/home/news/2022/09/01/missouri-and-louisiana-attorneys-general-ask-court-to-compel-department-of-justice-to-produce-communications-between-top-officials-and-social-media-companies

    Sep 1, 2022, 09:22 AM by AG Schmitt
    JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Yesterday, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry filed a Joint Statement on Discovery Disputes, asking the Louisiana District Court to compel the Department of Justice to turn over communications between high-ranking Biden Administration officials from the White House, Department of State, FBI and others and major social media companies. The Department of Justice has already turned over communications between a number of federal officials and social media companies but has refused to provide communications between top-ranking officials and social media companies.

    “Missouri and Louisiana filed a landmark lawsuit back in May that seeks to expose how top Biden Administration officials allegedly colluded with social media companies to censor freedom of speech on a number of topics, including COVID-19. We won in court in July, and the Court required the Biden Administration to turn over communications between federal officials and social media companies,” said Attorney General Schmitt. “We have already received a number of documents that clearly prove that the federal government has an incestuous relationship with social media companies and clearly coordinate to censor freedom of speech, but we’re not done.

    The Department of Justice is cowering behind executive privilege and has refused to turn over communications between the highest-ranking Biden Administration officials and social media companies. That’s why, yesterday, we asked the Court to compel the Department of Justice to produce those records. We’re just getting started – stay tuned.”

    The communications already provided by the Department of Justice to the plaintiff states show, as the joint statement points out, a vast “Censorship Enterprise” across a multitude of federal agencies. In response to Missouri and Louisiana’s interrogatories, defendants identified 45 federal officials at DHS, CISA, the CDC, NIAID, and the Office of the Surgeon General (all of which are contained in either DHS or HHS) that communicate with social media platforms about “misinformation” and censorship.

    Beyond the Department of Justice’s production, “Meta, for example, has disclosed that at least 32 federal officials—including senior officials at the FDA, the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, and the White House—have communicated with Meta about content moderation on its platforms, many of whom were not disclosed in response to Plaintiffs’ interrogatories to Defendants. YouTube disclosed eleven federal officials engaged in such communications, including officials at the Census Bureau and the White House, many of whom were also not disclosed by Defendants.”

    The joint statement continues, “The discovery provided so far demonstrates that this Censorship Enterprise is extremely broad, including officials in the White House, HHS, DHS, CISA, the CDC, NIAID, and the Office of the Surgeon General; and evidently other agencies as well, such as the Census Bureau, the FDA, the FBI, the State Department, the Treasury Department, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. And it rises to the highest levels of the U.S. Government, including numerous White House officials. Defendants have objected to producing some of the most relevant and probative information in their possession.”

    This “Censorship Enterprise” is proven by the Department of Justice’s productions thus far, but the full extent of federal officials’ collusion with social media companies on censorship is unknown until the Department of Justice produces further communications requested by Missouri and Louisiana.

    The email chains for several cases then follow.
    Haven’t people learned yet that (1) FOIA and trial discovery are the instruments of Karma; (2) the internet is forever.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/dmt-hitting-joe-rogan-hard-as-he-could-swear-zuckerbergs-eyes-just-blinked-sideways

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