What’s Raffensperger’s game in Georgia?
We all know how important the Georgia runoffs are. I realize that if the GOP retains the Senate it merely buys a little bit of time to stop the worst excesses of the Democrats from coming to pass now, but buying time is still important. The right needs to regroup and fight what’s going on more effectively.
When I was a Democrat and not an especially politically involved one at that, I paid little or no attention to the squabbles on the right. But over the years I’ve been been on the right, and especially for the years I’ve been blogging, those fights have been a recurrent theme and I’ve been impressed by how bitterly divided the right is, and by how much resentment conservatives have towards the GOPe.
Which brings us to Georgia’s current Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, whose behavior in this entire voting debacle seems to have been nothing short of abominable. Until it became clear that the Senate seats in Georgia were going to be subject to a runoff that would determine the future of the republic (IMHO and that of so many others), I’d never even heard of Raffensperger. But he’s a major player now.
Raffensperger has a somewhat unusual background for a politician: civil engineer. His previous political experience is all on the local level as a Johns Creek City Council representative and then a member of the Georgia House. He’s also the CEO of an engineering company and as such made a ton of money to the tune of around 26 million dollars. Raffensperger didn’t get into politics until 2012, when he was in his late 50s.
When Raffensperger ran for the SOS position in 2018 (he won in a runoff, by the way), this was his line on voting:
During his campaign, Raffensperger “said he would reduce government bureaucracy, support voter ID laws and push for verifiable paper ballots when Georgia replaces its electronic voting machines.”
This is where it gets murky, very murky. I assume that those of you who live in Georgia will have a lot more to say about this, but it seems to me that Raffensperger was totally spooked by COVID [emphasis mine]:
During the 2020 Georgia elections, Raffensperger sought to prevent Georgia polling places from printing paper backups of voter registration and absentee voting information in case polling places would struggle to use voter check-in tablets, called Poll Pads, which had been problematic in Georgia’s primary elections in June 2020. The tablets had caused long lines at polling places. Voting rights groups had requested paper backups to prevent a risk of chaos on election day in case the tablets failed. The voting rights groups sued Raffensperger in federal court; they obtained an order from a district judge ordering Georgia election officials to prepare such paper backups, but this order was blocked by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit.
In 2020, the Georgia presidential primaries, originally set for March 24, were moved to May 19 (the date for non-presidential primaries in Georgia), due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Later, Raffensperger further postponed the Georgia primaries to June 9 due to the coronavirus crisis.
To protect voting rights during the pandemic, Raffensperger directed the mailing of absentee (mail-in) ballot applications to all of Georgia’s 6.9 million active registered voters for the state’s June 2020 primary. After David Ralston, the Republican speaker of the state House, said that expanded use of mail-in voting would “be extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives in Georgia,” Republicans on a Georgia state House committee advanced legislation to block election officials from sending mail-in ballot request forms to voters ahead of elections. Raffensperger pushed back on the proposal, saying: “By a wide margin, voters on both sides of the political spectrum agree that sending absentee applications to all active voters was the safest and best thing our office could do to protect our voters at the peak of COVID-19. Some seem to be saying that our office should have ignored the wave of absentee voting that was clearly coming.” After encountering opposition, the proposed ban died in the Georgia General Assembly.
This seems to be an example of a Republican SOS pushing for extreme liberalization of voting laws due to COVID fear, and a GOP legislature trying to fight him but failing to succeed. I also wouldn’t discount the influence on Raffensperger of fear of Stacey Abrams and her leftist money and her ability to win in court by accusing the GOP opposition of racism, and I suspect that’s a partial explanation for Raffensperger’s cave.
At any rate, Georgia ended up not sending ballots to everyone after all, although mail-in voting was expanded (as it was in so many states):
Raffensperger did not send out mail-in ballot applications to every active registered voter in Georgia for the November 2020 general election, citing the cost of a mass mailing. Rather, Raffensperger created an online portal for Georgia voters to request absentee ballots. He encouraged voters to take advantage of in-person early voting and mail-in voting.
So instead of fighting all of this, Raffensperger was completely on board, and I think the reason was a combination of COVID and fear of Abrams, plus something about his own lack of experience of politics on the national level.
Now, Wiki being Wiki, it’s got its own political agenda, and the description there of the November election goes like this:
The November 2020 general election in Georgia went smoothly, avoiding the problems that had plagued the primary election in June…
Went smoothly? Well, I suppose if you’re a Democrat, you might say that.
Here’s what ensued, according to Wiki:
After the election, Raffensperger’s fellow Republicans, Georgia’s U.S. Senators David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler issued a joint statement accusing Raffensperger of unspecified “failures” and calling for him to resign. Perdue and Loeffler offered no evidence in support of their claims, which they made after pressure from Trump, who had promoted conspiracy theories about the election and falsely claimed it was rigged…Raffensperger rejected the calls for his resignation, saying, “As a Republican, I am concerned about Republicans keeping the U.S. Senate. I recommend that Senators Loeffler and Perdue start focusing on that.”
Well Brad, they can “focus on that” all they want, but if voting fraud is committed their focus won’t matter one whit. More:
…[Raffensperger said] that fellow Republicans were pressuring him to find ways to exclude legal ballots. Raffensperger focused especially on South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, whom he said pressured him in a call to throw out postal ballots favoring Biden. Though Graham denied the allegations…Doug Collins, a Republican congressman from Georgia who lost his race and oversaw Trump’s efforts in Georgia, falsely claimed fraud in the Georgia election, prompting Raffensperger, typically known for his mild manner, to call Collins a “liar” and “charlatan” for his rhetoric.
Ignore Wiki’s editorializing and focus on what’s happening here, which is that this is another example of GOP infighting, in which it seems to me that Raffensperger’s main concern (even perhaps his sole concern) is protecting himself against accusations that he had any role in the debacle.
Here’s the very latest from Raffensperger (today), who still seems to be fighting Perdue and Loeffler more than he’s fighting the Democrats:
Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger didn’t mince words Tuesday when he called out his party’s two Senate candidates, David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler, for hounding his office for information their campaigns already had.
Loeffler and Perdue, both of whom are running to retain their seats in Georgia’s upcoming Senate runoffs, released a statement earlier “calling for the Georgia Secretary of State to compile and release a final list of newly registered voters following his failure to do so ahead of the start of early voting.”…
“Though I’ve told the Republican Party to stop focusing on me and instead direct their energies to winning the Senate runoffs, clearly they haven’t listened,” Raffensperger said. “As embarrassing as it is for Sens. Perdue and Loeffler not to know that the data they want is already publicly available from the Secretary of State, it’s even worse that they’re not aware their own campaigns already have the data they’re looking for. Early voting has already started but it’s not too late for them to call their offices and get their campaigns in order.”
Once again we have the same pattern: Raffensperger in a huff to defend himself and publicly rebuking the two candidates who need all the help they can muster. I have no idea whether they really do have the specific information they requested, but this all could have been handled in private in order to minimize the damage. It doesn’t seem to me that Raffensperger is trying to minimize the damage at all. Again, I’d welcome more information from those closer to the situation than I am.
What a horrible mess, though – and it’s a mess with potentially disastrous national consequences.
Fear of Stacey Abrams, fear of the power of leftist money, and fear of the accusation of racism indeed! What is astonishing is the amount of power a nonentity such as Abrams has amassed, and how avidly she is courted by leftists in the MSM, when she is, in fact, profoundly unimpressive and amusing only because her principal occupation for years, aside from grievance-mongering, has been writing steamy romance novels (apparently, eight in number); what is disturbing is that she will stop at nothing to produce the necessary votes for her party’s victory next month.
j e:
“Nonentities” often get into political movements and are quite good at strategy, tactics, and amassing power. Whatever her other accomplishments may or may not be, she is very savvy at those aforementioned things and does not hesitate to play the all-important race card.
But looking at her Wiki profile, I would call Abrams far from a nonentity. She’s done very well academically from an early age and she’s been highly active in politics. Just to take a few examples:
Much more at the link.
Here’s a suggestion: his contractors put money in his off-shore accounts. Uncharitable, but some of his behavior has been inexplicable if you begin with the assumption he’s on the level.
How long before Raffensperger switches parties? He certainly is acting as if that’s part of the plan.
In my post in the prior thread I believe it was more a function of Kemp and Raffensperger wanting to protect Kelly Loeffler from Doug Collins. In other words they were in the scheme to switch votes. Imagine their shock when the battleground states came in for Biden and brought national attention to them.
That is what all the politicos are pointing to when they say those two scoundrels belong is jail.
There is a power struggle between the nationalist populists vs. urbane globalists throughout the Republican party. Kemp and the SOS are in the latter category. The Democrats have a generational battle between urban socialists vs. rural/suburban liberals. These next two years are going to be interesting. Especially if the Biden administration brings back Obama economic stagnation. But the four parties all have a common enemy which is the tech overlords for different reasons. Kind of an enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of thing.
Raffensperger aside, I want to share my thoughts on some procedural issues regarding the Georgia Senate elections which, amid the non-stop din of “The fate of the entire nation rests on it!” and “Leftist Zillionares have dumped 80 Googleplexian dollars into this election!” and “Stacey Abrams is an evil genius, mastermind who has the goods on every Republican in Georgia!”, which seem to be the three constant refrains throughout most right-wing media:
First, The 117th Congress is slated to convene on 1/3/21, two days before the Georgia runoff. Mike Pence will still be vice president and Republicans will have a 50-48 majority with those two seats temporarily vacant.
Second, if there is election fraud alleged, and lawsuits pending, the Senate doesn’t have to seat either candidate for either seat while the litigation is pending. It can do so, provisionally, but it doesn’t have to.
Third, even assuming China Joe and Giggles take over on January 20, if the two Georgia seats are still vacant, pending fraud challenges, the GOP still has control of the Senate and, assuming Murkowski, Collins, or Judas I. Romney don’t commit treachery, the Senate could continue to refuse to seat anyone from Georgia until those challenges are litigated.
Fourth, while the elections are disputed, Governor Kemp could appoint interim Senators, possibly even Perdue and Loeffler.
If Democrats want to challenge any of the above through the courts, fine. But conservatives now have a 5-4 majority on SCOTUS; moreover, this is not Texas v. Pennsylvania. Standing shouldn’t be an option for a skittish Court to punt on, and this isn’t the Presidency; if two Senate seats remain vacant for a considerable amount of time, the country and government can still function just fine. Remember: it took seven months to decide the Franken v. Coleman race in 2008-09.
In other words, if Democrats try to steal the runoffs, Republicans can forcefully fight back, assuming they stand together and don’t lose their nerve.
I certainly might be wrong about some of the above, and welcome any commentary in this regard.
“some of his behavior has been inexplicable if you begin with the assumption he’s on the level.” Art+Deco
The simplest explanation for ‘inexplicable’ behavior is generally the correct one. Especially if, once one considers that their actual motivations may in fact be the exact opposite of what they have proclaimed them to be, their ‘inexplicable’ behavior then makes perfect sense.
“There is a power struggle between the nationalist populists vs. urbane globalists throughout the Republican party. … The Democrats have a generational battle between urban socialists vs. rural/suburban liberals.” I am Spartacus
The urban socialists on the left will win the generational battle.
If Biden is inaugurated, the majority of the nationalist populists will leave the Republican party. Especially when they see that 2022 reveals the same old story.
“Mitch McConnell congratulates ‘President-elect’ Joe Biden, says “the Electoral College has spoken” https://www.theblaze.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-congratulates-biden-says-the-electoral-college-has-spoken
Consider that the nationalist populists in the Republican Part are opposed by the other three factions. Consider that both the democrat party’s urban socialists vs. rural/suburban liberals will henceforth manufacture however many votes are needed to ‘win’ and that the urbane globalists will do nothing to stop them.
No, it doesn’t sound like Raffensperger is fighting for the Republicans. He is another politician who thinks he sees the writing on the wall. To him that writing says that Georgia is a purple state and that Raffensperger should throw his lot in with the Dems if he wants to hold future office. Just our luck, to be stuck with him at this important time. He just may ruin it.
The latest trickery from Georgia. They are going to have a signature audit in Cobb County. The Democrats used different strategies to steal the election in different counties. Cobb County went for Biden strongly in 2020, but the strategy to steal Cobb County was misinformation, not election fraud. Cobb County is a suburban county and most importantly NOT a Democratic stronghold. It does not have a history of election fraud like a Democratic stronghold like Fulton County would. Cobb County is full of impressionable suburban whites. They were barraged with enough fake news about supposed Trump liabilities, and kept from hearing Biden faults. Enough of them retreated form the position of Trump just through emotional appeal. There will be no big signature differential in Cobb County.
The place where signature audits need to be done, is the place where we observed on video the stealing of ballots. I believe that is Fulton County. Doing a signature audit in Cobb County ( a swing county which had no chance to develop years and years of election cheating ) is simply a ruse of the Republican SoS of Georgia.
There’s a rumor that the Georgia SoS Brad Raffensperger is going to switch parties after the election.
I don’t know if it’s true, but after thinking about this for a bit, it makes perfect sense. He’ll never get elected again as a Republican and he’ll be a hero forever in the Democratic party. Plus he’s rigged the voting process so he’ll easily get elected as a Democrat.
https://populist.press/ga-secretary-of-state-brad-raffensperger-honored-by-dems-switching-parties/
Ackler above: “Republicans can forcefully fight back, assuming they stand together and don’t lose their nerve.”
Well, there you have it in a nutshell. When have Republicans ever stood together, didn’t lose their nerve, and forcefully fought back? I live in GA and it’s like everywhere else. The Stupid Party continues to be stupid.
Grantman beat me to it.
The GOP is hopeless, that’s why they lose. Trump was an aberration and now that he’s gone the GOP is returning to form. We need an alternative, but I don’t see that happening. As far as I’m concerned, I’ll just try to get use to living in a marxist shithole as there’s nothing I can do to stop it.
Funny thing: many people (most are lib/left) ask me why I’m a Republican. I shock them to speechless by telling them I’ve been an independent for almost a decade. Doesn’t compute with them. They really don’t understand conservative vs GOP.
There’s a theory that Raffensberger and Kemp are intimidated by Stacey Abrams. You don’t want to get in the way of “The Tank.” In what I think is a related story, Democratic candidate Jon Ossoff has filled his current ad blitz with fat ugly Black women, I suspect to show his solidarity with the Abrams crowd.
They’re not hopeless, just hopelessly corrupt in my opinion. Nobody’s that stupid…
Fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud…
I’ve heard this for years from the right. Yet, we kept electing GOP into leadership roles and it never – seems – to – get – fixed…
Looking particularly at Trump here, as he claimed in 2016 there was massive voter fraud. Four years to fix, and…. Fraud, fraud, fraud in 2020.
Yes, elections are run locally, but you’d think the vast federal investigation powers available give one the ability to expose the supposed and purported scale of it all.
Then we have how many legal challenges (how many times does this get to go on before it constitutes legal harassment?), even in front of Trump appointed judges, and vast majority are rebuked – often for lack of evidence (latest being in Wisconsin – btw, Neo used to refer to and quote Andrew McCarthy quite a bit, but notice that he hasn’t been lately – he confirms the lack of evidence, particularly vs the public rhetoric of the purported massive scale of it in Wisconsin).
Not denying there are instances of fraud, but at this point it seems rather rare to impossible to be at a scale large enough to throw a national election.
If it were so, seems to me competent people would have rooted it out since 2016, and could present a strong case in court (being “disorganized” – a selected quote in another Neo article – is a LAME effin excuse, probably better described as either incompetency or, more likely, that the real substantive evidence just isn’t there).
Then we spin Georgia as a “debacle” with innuendo of “murky” details, “spooked by COVID”, suggestions of ulterior motives by the SOS, and that he is in a “huff” (evidently from being overly emotional, overstating the facts).
So, Raffenspurger should have taken it private? WTFreak was that sentiment when Trump went public with his concerns about and blame for the SOS? HE is the one that pushed the fraud narrative. All this without actual proof (that would hold up in a court) to match the scale he purports. Who is in a “huff” here?
Now folks who might have voted GOP figure it is useless to vote in the runoff anyway as the Dems have it fixed. THAT is the real debacle.
Nowadays, pushing fraud, looking for scapegoats, is nothing more than virtue signalling on the right – something we long lamented about the deranged left.
Just like what we are seeing with the derangement on the left, on the right we are now seeing this state of mind to cause all to eat their own.
Sen McConnell the latest evil for merely stating the obvious.
Live boy or a dead girl.
Someone has pictures.
BM:
Philly – run by Republicans?
Detroit – run by Republicans?
Wisconsin – run by Republicans?
Georgia – run by Republicans who are afraid of a fat black broad
Fraud in specific Democrat machine governments and somehow there is nothing to see. Amazing the coincidences, but is is the Republican’s fault. Sorry to hear that you are concerned.
Mitch McConnell can go back to going along now, you will certainly be happy and much less concerned? Any more “helpful” advice to share?
That WI Supreme Court Justice is a peach isn’t she; the epitome of objective jurisprudence? You get the hacks that Soros pays for, again the fault of Republicans?
“Legal harassment” something about oxymoronic comes to mind when those words are paired, what a maroon.
BM:
Why the new moniker? Usually when people change names they mention that that’s what they’re doing. I don’t mind people changing names upfront, but sock puppetry is not a good idea.
Neo:
Is “BM” “Big Mac?” Or Big Maroon?
Some time ago Christian J. Adams was appointed to a federal commission to look into election fraud. Last I heard, some states run by Democrats refused to permit the commission to get a copy of their voter database, based on what legal pretext I don’t know, since these are public documents. I volunteered to get my state database, or organize a county by county effort, but unfortunately I live in Florida, which had no problem submitting theirs.
Also I worked for a Florida state legislator after 2002 for the four years ( and two trys) it took to get an acceptable system in place (state approved certain systems, based on state legislature requirements for paper ballots, county SOEs had to choose from the approved systems). When did the Dominion systems get put into place? Was that a result of the Covid Panic?
Somehow I missed any more details of the blonde woman in the Georgia fraud video, the election official who told Reps & news to leave, that the counting was over … but it wasn’t.
Who IS that woman?
Why don’t Rep observers have camera phones with video taking evidence of EVERY “order” they are given, along with the name and position of the person giving the order.
Similarly, every polling place and especially counting place should have a chain of command with an identified person in charge.
And perhaps more Reps should be clear on some dirty tricks, like doxing and personal house protests, in advance of any bad Rep behavior.
So Reps should NOT find out who the election officials are.
They should NOT find out the personal addresses of those who were involved in irregular counting.
They should NOT go, by hundreds and thousands, of cars and on foot, to protest at the homes in favor of Free & Fair elections – against fraud.
Tho I’m not sure if any of these are actually illegal, it would be polarizing for Reps to do what Dems have long been doing. It might even be inconvenient if a thousand cars caused big congestion on a residential street just because some election official who helped cheat lived there.
Dem supported BLM/ Antifa protests included huge amounts of actual damage – but in theory, the peaceful parts were legal.
Those claiming Fraud should be naming names more, including Raffensperger – who might also be inconvenienced if thousands of cars protested his acceptance of insecure Dominion voting machines and his claim that there was noting irregular shown in the video of just 4 Dems counting votes after others had gone.
Tom Grey:
The blond hired woman in the GA video has been identified and she has “lawyered up.” All that happened last week, another case of “nothing to see” in the Peach State. Old news, move on, the insect overlords have spoken.
Don’t you know that (reference to the MI testimony from 2 weeks ago) that laws and regulations are not complied with or enforced in the Dem. machine areas? Because “racism.” Pay attention.
OM has devolved to name calling – used to be one of the better debaters here. Sad.
Anyway, s/he doesn’t put forth anything substantive in response.
The point is, the GOP are involved up and down the electoral process at the state and local levels. The GOP had 4 years of leadership at the national level.
And these claims have NOT been limited to these past four – its been persistent through the last 30+ years I have been following this scene.
One would rationally think that four years is sufficient time to dig up evidence of all this massive fraud, claimed even in 2016. Yet… crickets!
We only hear about it afterwards, and, coincidentally, only where the results don’t go our way. Not much different really than Stacey Abrams claims in GA.
We are 50+ court cases on the Trump side, and what is the result?
Are ALL these judges (many appointed during Trump’s administration) really the ones with the delusion, the ones with some overriding anti-Trump bias that they are willing to overlook the supposedly “obvious” and “massive” fraud?
Making claims is easy. Actually doing the job of investigating them and then proving them in court is the hard part. Somehow, this is so bloody elusive for so many years.
Please do make the argument that there is so much fraud the Dems are engaging in in GA that the results are pre-baked. Let the would-be GOP voters stay home, not waste their time or risk COVID to engage in a fantasy vote.
Yea, right. You probably think they ought to go – the underlying presumption would then have to be that that fraud is somehow resolved by now – no possibility, so folks are good to go for voting.
Round peg, meet square hole.
But, if we end up with two GA Dem Senators — FRAUD, FRAUD!!!
BM = Big Maq
Don’t know why, didn’t intentionally try to confuse.
BM was Big Maq as suspected. Funny saying you don’t intentionally try to confuse.
Funny that cases have not been heard because of standing or laches or whatever. Can’t sue before, too late to sue after. Funny that you dance around “why haven’t you proven it in 30 years …..” Funny that all the actions taken by Sec. Of States and Governors that are Democrats have the result of reducing the integrity of the vote (signature matching, purging the voter roles of ineligible voters, etc.) Funny that observers are positioned so they can’t see anything, if they aren’t kicked out or told to go home. Funny that. That video from the State Farm Center in GA was especially humorous, or humerous (funny bone).
Maroon fits BigM, not sad, just true. Got any other names you don’t like?
There is a perverse incentive at play here.
We are now in a world where many on the right are every bit as emotionally “triggered” as the left are, only on different terms.
Thus, it costs a politician (or TV or radio host for that matter) very little to claim “Fraud”, particularly when they have a sufficiently large base of people who are uncritical and are inclined to give him/her trust without asking for real proof.
In fact, some of that base are so motivated, they will seek out so-called “evidence”, the quality of which we’ve seen for years in reports that supposedly “prove” the existence of UFOs, Big Foot, Alien Crop Circles and Loch Ness.
Crop circles and Loch Ness have been debunked as fake – with some coming forward admitting so and how. Yet, Discovery network still promotes many shows based on these types of “mystery” themes – there is a sizeable appetite for such things.
Sadly, that incentive carries further in motivating a few of this supportive base to fake up such proof, or at the very least “see” something that is not really there, or give false testimony (even under oath – whether they actually believe it or not).
Add social media and the internet where everyone has instant access to all this “proof” and it snowballs, to anyone with a priors position that softens one’s critical senses, predisposing them to believe and to be skeptical of naysayers.
Many folks here used to be pretty decent arbiters of truth, and rather skeptical, even across different “conservative” propositions. It made for good debate.
Sadly, not seeing that anymore.
This blog finds voices that support a mindset, but rarely airs much substantive critical views against that – so the followers follow along, or pile on more accurately.
No debate – just name calling from commenters who formerly actually had something substantive to say.
Very much like what we criticize the left on. Cherry picking content that makes their point and not seriously considering other viewpoints. Followers name calling or other methods to basically say “shut up” to quell debate.
OM you question my intentions, which fits with your name calling.
You are so inclined to question anything I say, as it questions some of your world view that you have to dismiss me outright – that is called ad hominem.
I use BM elsewhere in this world, this is not my only place to exist online.
The sadness is truly what you have devolved into, from where you were 4+ years ago – one of the voices that was a light here.
BM:
You were a Never-Trumper in 2016 posing as a Republican. Others have argued with you assuming good faith on your part, I don’t buy that ruse any longer, it’s called learning from past mistakes.
Four years of the Democrat machine/Media/Big Tec lies and manipulation tends to remove assumptions of good faith. Your party, your fellow travelers, sorry, you all aren’t to be trusted. Not even an original troll. Just a duplicitous maroon, Big Maq.
So we are supposed to believe that because there is a Dem Gov and SOS that fraud is perpetrated?
And that the GOP ( which dominated at the state level for most of this century) are somehow too timid to deal with fraud? Especially after their prior competitors claimed THEY won by fraud?
Come on. Has to be more than that.
Take the three Dem Gov states – two have had Dems for 9 years, one for 13 years. Were the GOP sleeping in between? Or, if they took corrective action – why be so quiet about it? Do they quietly re-address it after they are back in power, after the Dems change it back?
Anyway, I cannot spend time like I did, so this is the last for this line of comment.
Have at it…whatever other name you can dismiss this with.
More name calling. Sad OM, just sad.
Big Maq:
You are supposed to look at the clues from PA, MI, WI, GA (not Dems but clues none the less) and evidence and draw conclusions. Or be a troll. PA executive branch and State Supreme Court went around the legislature regarding voting procedures – that is a clue, maroon. MI – Detroit precincts that don’t balance, that is a clue, moron. There are other clues out there, not Big Foot, or Crop Circles, or the Lock Ness Monster. What a dolt.
Bye bye, don’t let the door hit you in the backside, IMO, not speaking for Neo.
Back in the early 90s, I was working around Capitol Hill in Nonprofit jobs, and got to know some senior lobbyists and former staffers to senators and members of the House. In the 1980s, I would sometimes deliver Large ( often ten or twenty thousand dollar checks), because I was well groomed and wearing a decent cab company polo shirt, to various House and Senate offices
for fundraisers. I made a remark that everything is by check, nowadays, right?
As far as these two guys were concerned, that was the funniest thing I ever said. Suitcases full of cash are always available for a really crucial vote/favor/corrupt conduct. Chief of staff for a powerful senator, and lobbyist of great skill for a fortune 50 company, both had late 80s and early 90s tales of putting big wads of untraceable money in car trunks, Home garages of powerful senators, storage lockers belonging to members of the House.
A republican Sec of State? maybe only half a mil. Georgia has a nice low cost of living.