I saw that several days ago and stopoed watching it about 2/3rds way through.
Although I strongly agree with him regarding auto tune and drum machines and repetitive boring formulae destroying the listenability of music, his tastes in modern pop are still way too generous for me.
As to his point[s], I think he is stating the propositions clearly but in a somewhat confusing narrative.
For those who even took basic guitar lessons as children the two tuning issues are obvious.
1, is the tuning of the guitar to the absolute pitch standard starting with the low open G at 82.41 Hz. Or as we were taught, 12 white keys to the left of middle C on your mom’s piano.
2, is the self tuning as he mentions. The proper stepping distance between the open strings so some played notes are not comparatively flat or sharp.
In situations where families had guitars but no tuned piano, tuning forks, or pitch pipes or a traceable instrument to get at least one absolute tone absolutely spot on, relative tuning is the best one could hope for.
We might underestimate how often a rural family might access an absolute scale in a tuned piano or fork, but even if it were months in between, they could do a prety good job by memory and relative self tuning. The high E is particularly easy to remember as an anchor point. The steps are burned in memory and can be checked if imperfectly on the fretboard itself. And if you can then play the problematic hard to tune open C chord in the first position so it sounds right, well that is good enough.
Mike and Gadi explore the jumbled state of arm-twisting affairs.
It’s interesting that modern music listeners are just used to the wrongness of the always slightly off tune D chord played on a guitar. At one point I was thinking of buying one of those weird guitars with true temperment frets that “correct” that wrongness. The frets on them are all squiggly looking.
“his tastes in modern pop are still way too generous for me.”
See his latest on the top 10 on Spotify. I think he can’t really say it’s total crap for legal reasons, but you know what he is really thinking. Out of the 10, the only one I thought was half way decent was the new Ariana Grande song..nice structure, good lyrics, minimal autotune. If I was on American Bandstand I’d give it an 7 out of 10. Rick made a good point vis Taylor Swift who has 2 songs in the top 10. He said Taylor could do amazing new things as she has the following, but she keep putting out trash…I guess she needs another jet. Had to laugh at that line.
Not hard to believe that some folks cannot tell when a “wrong” or out of tune note is played.
I can tell – most of the time; I did play a trumpet for several years about 100 years ago.
But a friend of mine – who actually played the clarinet in a high school music class – is absolutely tone deaf. If he played the wrong note, he could not hear that it was the wrong note.
Perhaps it’s akin to navigating your car around town or trying to find the way to a specific place. Some folks (like my wife and daughter) simply cannot do this; they have zero idea if they are heading north or south or east or west. And some folks have no problems knowing which direction they are headed ( OK, I am one of those).
Don’t know if anyone can explain any of this; I can’t.
And another changer—if rather drastic (it seems)—with something illuminating to say (and a Substack account with which to say it):
“A FORMER SAUL ALINSKI TRAINER EXPOSES THE PRO-PALESTINIAN ‘PROTESTS”— https://instapundit.com/646024/
they ask us to believe 50 improbable things every day, it doesn’t require deep knowledge, but some is necessary,
My band director says that even excellent ensemble members occasionally play out of tune. The difference between them and us 🙂 is that they don’t *stay* out of tune — they detect it instantly and correct it. We’re still working on that.
Healthcare reform 40%
Educational funding and access 38
Economic fairness and oppurtunity 37
Racial justice and civil rights 36
Climate change 35
Gun control/safety 32
Immigration policies 21
National security/terrorism 15 The conflict in the Middle East 13
By the numbers: Only a small minority (8%) of college students have participated in either side of the protests, the survey of 1,250 college students found.
• Some 34% blame Hamas, while 19% blame Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 12% blame the Israeli people and 12% blame Biden.
• A large majority (81%) of students support holding protesters accountable, agreeing with the notion that those who destroyed property or vandalized or illegally occupied buildings should be held responsible by their university, per the survey.
• A majority also said they oppose the protest tactics: 67% say occupying campus buildings is unacceptable and 58% say it’s not acceptable to refuse a university’s order to disperse.
• Another 90% said blocking pro-Israel students from parts of campus is unacceptable.
The other side: Students were still more likely to say they support the pro-Palestininan encampments than oppose them.
• 45% said they support them either strongly or a little bit. 30% were neutral, and 24% were strongly or a bit opposed.
Worth noting: A majority of people (58%) who participated in or favored protests against Israel said they would not consider being friends with someone who has marched for Israel.
• Meanwhile, 64% of those who participated in a pro-Israel protest said they would still be friends with someone who has marched against Israel.
When I look at the environment the Israelis are operating in I reflect back to my training. Shipboard security engagement. They’re fighting tunnels. I trained to fight in ships’ passageways. I’m not a braggart. Lots of Sailors can say, nobody is boarding my ship while I’m still alive
I don’t want to be banned. I’ll fight like a lion. I was born in the year of the tiger. I should like tigers. Tigers are better hunters. Lions are better fighters
I’M SORRYSTEVE, we had Marines on my Aircraft Carrier.
I want to be in Israel right now
Shirehime yes I know. I was Marine Corps trained. And trained my Sailors. I have a fine collection of swords. The nice thing about swords and knives is you never run out ammo
Pressure point 1992. AOCS was easy for me because my Coastie dad prepared me
Diving training hurt me
I can admit this because 99.9 percent of men can’t do better
When did this blog become group therapy for Cuckoo’s Nest fabulists?
This cuckoo will shut up now
IrishOtter49 – Back in the days when the US Navy was heavily trained to stop the enemy from boarding American Ships of War. Imagine the shock of American citizens witnessing the Houthi boarding and capturing the USS Gerald R. Ford!?!
• the USS Finch (AM-9) was not actually boarded and captured, i.e., it was sunk by the explosion of a nearby Jap bomb, and then salvaged by the Japs and renamed the IJN Patrol Boat 103.
• then there’s the infamous boarding and capture of the USS Pueblo (AGER-2) in 1968.
Looks like the other 34 captured ships occurred between 1776 & 1861.
I lied. I won’t shut up. I’m no fabulist. I’ve been so beaten up. But I can continue. It’s the only thing I can do
Kurt Schlichter addresses being a political changer
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Will Jewish Voters Stop Voting for the Democrats Who Want to Kill Them?
A habit mixed up with personal identity.
May 7, 2024 by Kurt Schlichter
“Jewish Americans are going to have to make a decision – the famously Democrat-leaning minority has a big problem because many of its fellow Democrats want them dead. That’s not an exaggeration – the chant of the Democrat’s left wing is not, ‘From the river to the sea, the Chosen People should be happy, safe, and free.’ Kind of the exact opposite. . . . Yet Jews in America overwhelmingly vote Democrat. You know, this might be a good time to rethink their traditional leftist voting habits, but that conundrum represents a conflict in human nature – the conflict between self-preservation and self-identity.”
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“A lot of Jewish Americans are very invested in being liberal. That’s who they are. That’s not just a political affiliation but an identity. Imagine you’ve spent 65 years of your life voting for Democrats, and suddenly this happens. Are you ready to make a 180° turn? That’s hard. That’s hard for anybody. It’s human nature. Voting Dem is a habit mixed up with personal identity. That is tough to change, even then the face of indisputable and undeniable evidence like these sociopaths chanting ‘From the river to the sea.’ So, my guess is we’re going to see some Jewish voters swinging to the Republicans, but not most – at least not in 2024. It’s hard to turn on a dime. But we are going to see some movement. It’s a start.”
Pedo Joe and his family’s pedophile proclivities and behaviors are out of tune with normal society. Regrettably, there may be no other way to bring such people back into tune other than with harsh punishments. Ditto with Mohammedan pedophilia.
Considering that the latter is based on the example set by Mohammed, it’s clear that the presentation of pedophilia among such leaders is for the purpose of discrediting them with responsible society. Whether punishments are brought to bear or not, we are nevertheless afforded awareness of the offending repugnancy.
Moreover, the seen is only for the sake of the seer.
– Patanjali (Satchidananda translation)
The Israeli women and girls raped and taken hostage by Hamas have never received the same international support as the #MeToo and #BringBackOurGirls campaigns, a double standard that one women’s organization seeks to rectify.
The right-of-center Independent Women’s Forum launched the #OurGirls campaign on Tuesday, calling out the White House, feminist groups and international organizations for their “continued silence when it comes to the Israeli women and girls.”
“Stop the selective outrage,” said the IWF in a video ad. “Those who truly care about women should stand up for all women all the time. These are our sisters, our daughters, our moms all being held captive, brutalized and tortured.”
‘Selective Outrage‘ =’s Modus Operandi of America’s WOKE far left…
Will Jewish Voters Stop Voting for the Democrats Who Want to Kill Them?
The preponderance of the a-thiest, secular, anti-supernaturalists? One would hope so. But I would not bet on it.
Live by the Tikkun Olam fantasy pseudo religion and conceit, die by it.
Inclusion, acceptance, immersion and validation are more important than life itself to large swaths of humanity.
You can see it in terms of evolutionary psychology if you like. Whether that explanation constitutes a “Just So'” story or not, remains to be confirmed.
But the behavior is historically well enough attested.
I’m thinking the Navy made a mistakbdeclarinhvswords obsolete in 1939
Removing them from the armory. The nice thing about blades is you don’t have to reload them.. my k bar always works
Sdferr, thanks for the Beethoven link.
My m14 needs ammo to work
I accept that. My rifle helps me keep my head on my shoulders
DNW:
Most of these people are ethnic Jews only, and have zero grounding in or belief in any religion whatsoever. Stop blaming Tikkun Olam – most of them have never even heard of it. They are taught leftism, and that’s about it. They – as I’ve explained before – like most other urban people who are not religious, are simply leftists surrounded by leftism.
The more religious Jews are on the right,
Fabulist? I know just how weak I am. My secret is knowing other men’s weaknesses
I’m not invisible. But nobody nobody is
“A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.” – CS Lewis
If you don’t know what the standard for ‘in tune’ is then ‘out of tune’ becomes relative, or ‘I don’t know that song.’ ‘In tune’ is relative, shifting from song to song. Every song becomes its own determinant of ‘in tune.’
Seems to me a whole bunch of moral, ethical, & public policy decisions today are being made in absence of the knowledge of ‘in tune/straight,’ so we get the relativity we see rampant around us.
Might want to take a moment to thank God for showing us what is in tune & straight in the universe…just a random Open Thread observation. Thanks.
DNW:
Most of these people are ethnic Jews only, and have zero grounding in or belief in any religion whatsoever. Stop blaming Tikkun Olam –– most of them have never even heard of it.
“Tikkun olam” has become such a commonly used term in liberal Jewish circles that it is the basis for a joke, in which an American Jew visiting Israel asks her guide, “How do you say tikkun olam in Hebrew?”
While contemporary activists also use the term “tikkun olam” to refer to acts of repair by human beings, they do not necessarily believe in or have a familiarity with the term’s cosmological associations. Their emphasis is on acts of social responsibility, not the larger realm of sacred acts — and on fixing, not undoing, the world as we know it.”
And it was a mighty big deal just a couple of elections [and more recently] back, and formed centerpiece of Hillary’s and the Democrat party’s supposed quest for meaning.
And so if the sources are to be believed, it seems to be a concept right there up front and center in the consciousness of secular socially attuned Jewish people, and to form a critical part of the moral identity of a significant politically progressive minded subset, be they anti-Zionist, or more of the mainstream “progressive” types which now find themselves confronting the implications of their longstanding assumptions and comittments.
Today, tikkun olam — Hebrew for “repairing the world” — is ubiquitous. Many American Jews consider it a cornerstone of their Jewish identity, a key reason they’re committed to making the world a better place.
In an authoritative scholarly article in 2014, Krasner traced the history and evolution of tikkun olam across nearly two thousand years of Jewish thought and practice to explain how it came to mean what it does today.
TJE spoke with him about the world events and changes in Jewish thinking that led to tikkun olam’s transformation from an obscure concept to a universal value.
Tikkun olam isn’t mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. Instead, it first appeared in the Talmud, rabbinical commentaries compiled during the 1st millennium CE.
In the Talmud, the rabbis wrote about mipnei tikkun ha-olam, Hebrew for “for the sake of the betterment of society.” In this context, tikkun olam justified rabbinic interventions designed to maintain the social order.
I don’t know what ardent political partisans or complacent go-alongs actually do know or don’t know. Just as I do not know what college “kids” in general know or don’t know. But I know what a university student at an Ivy League college, or an ardent political person should know about the foundation of their beliefs. And as citizens, there is no god##mned excuse at all for them if they don’t actually know what dead philosopher or authority or dogma they are parroting or following: because they just might get us all effen killed.
Good video.
I’m fortunate to have lots of live music available to me, and while I never set out to listen to much jazz, it’s become one of my main stays.
One of the main reasons why I listen to jazz is because those people are generally so much better musicians, especially when it comes to proper intonation. The last straw for me were a number of latin music cover bands. Salsa, samba, etc. Those bands have to have a “horn” section and usually they stink.
I’d talk to some of friends and say “Wow, those horns are terrible.” Why, what’s wrong? they’d reply. “The intonation.” What’s that? “The pitch.” Huh?
Sigh. No wonder they have terrible horn sections. Most can’t tell the difference.
They – as I’ve explained before – like most other urban people who are not religious, are simply leftists surrounded by leftism.
The more religious Jews are on the right,
I do believe that my first paragraph stipulated as much as you state initially; and, by implication, for an allowance such as you have advanced latterly.
Here, I’ll quote myself :
The preponderance of the a-theist, secular, anti-supernaturalists? One would hope so. But I would not bet on it.
[ATHEIST typo corrected]
Polls nowadays consist of massaged convenience samples.
Physicsguy says:
“his tastes in modern pop are still way too generous for me.”
See his latest on the top 10 on Spotify. I think he can’t really say it’s total crap for legal reasons, but you know what he is really thinking. Out of the 10, the only one I thought was half way decent was the new Ariana Grande song..nice structure, good lyrics, minimal autotune.
In truth, I have not been able to tolerate more than a few bars of any radio play pop music since the days of the Smash Mouth hit Walking on the Sun and Chumbawhatever Tubthumping back in the late 1990s
The same goes for so-called “Country Music”.
It’s-all-so-whiny-and- formulaic. If I wanted to listen to crying babies or whining cats, I’d go direct to the source. And the moment I see a pleasure face, an agony face, a straining emoting BS performance, I know exactly what the viewer is in store for and I have no desire to share in it.
And frankly Beato’s nodding emotionally transported reactions to the crap he is reviewing baffles me completely.
So it’s mostly been song book jazz for me the last years. Fusion, is just as boring as modern pop.
But hey, that’s just me. Others resonate to other vibes.
It’s going to sound dirty. But it’s trou. my rifle needs ammo to work.
My knife doesn’t
Unless I use the bayonet and if let you get that close either I’ve done something wrong or I’m in love
After a month-plus-plus of Biden telling Israel “Don’t” invade Rafah w/o his permission – Israel finally had enough of his interference & obvious objectives of helping both Hamas & his own election chances, and went ahead with their planned invasion of Rafah.
Prime Minister Netanyahu ignored Biden’s don’ts & threats & stopped ammo shipments, and finally put Biden in his place – in front of a World Stage on Holocaust Remembrance Day.
I suspect the nationwide polls showing a growing dislike of antisemitic mobs raging on college campuses has passed the polls of radical Michigan Muslims threatening not to vote for “Genocide Joe”.
I suspect the nationwide polls showing a growing dislike of antisemitic mobs raging on college campuses has passed the polls of radical Michigan Muslims threatening not to vote for “Genocide Joe”.
I know there’s a lot of bad news, but I sense the good ship USS America is changing course.
Why is DNW fixated on that percentage of leftist or extreme progressive Jews? It is a recurring theme for the philosopher, Oh well, another axe for him to grind. Something about them being leftists or extreme progressives comes before any other identity. But he knows that?
What’s going to be Brandon’s ultimate “Don’t?”
“Don’t” force him to refuse to concede the election in 2024.
“Don’t” make the Mega Dark Brandon come out.
“Don’t” invoke Martial Law to save Our Democracy!
Just say “Don’t” and FJB.
Re: Painting the giraffe
Another one for AesopFan….
A week ago I was in the tiny French section of a big used bookstore. I found a French translation of a fifties American crime novel. I picked it up and … started reading.
I’ve been able to sorta read French for a while, but this was like really reading. The book, “Hot Spot,” (real French title composed of English loanwords) is based on “Hell Hath No Fury” by Charles Williams. Classic noir stuff, influenced by “Double Indemnity” for a start.
So I’m now reading “Hot Spot” in computer-assisted detail and ran across a charming French idiom:
peindre la girafe — paint the giraffe
Cut to the chase, it means dawdle or goof off. The idea being that painting the dark areas on a giraffe would be a futile waste of time.
Don’t paint the giraffe!
om on May 8, 2024 at 12:07 am said:
Why is DNW fixated on that percentage of leftist or extreme progressive …
Oh, shhh…it. For Gaia’s sake. Not that damn thing again.
One might as well ask why it is that Om the attention craving poodle is fixated on me. But since I dont care why it does what it does; and yet blind to the obvious as it is it asks why I refer to a-theist progressive Jewish value systems, I hereby provide it the reason.
Now Om, take the rag I have tossed you and scamper off to your corner and shake it like you like to do.
Since that’s all you have ever been good for all these years anyway, you pathetic and resentful little attention craving twerp.
Cut to the chase, it means dawdle or goof off. The idea being that painting the dark areas on a giraffe would be a futile waste of time.
Don’t paint the giraffe!
Ha! I’m afraid I just did. At least it gave him a reason to live a few more days.
But truly I wonder, how did some of these miscreants survive to adulthood? Such as it is, for them.
I finally watched the video. A barely superficial treatment of a very meaty subject. Mostly he is expressing his surprise that nonmusicians aren’t as sensitive to tuning as musicians. Shocked, shocked!
Just to take one example of the subject, he talks about Hendrix (and other) recordings having the tape sped up or slowed down. This does happen. But Hendrix, like his devotee Stevie Ray Vaughan, often deliberately tuned his guitar down a half step because it changed the tone of the guitar. Furthermore A440 is not a universal standard. Not to mention as some people above have touched on the difference between “just” intonation and equal temperament. Now those would all be fascinating subjects.
However…one might well wonder whether Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch of Stephen Wise Free Synagogue may, alas, be an outlier in his uncompromising support of Israel…
Barry Meislin on May 8, 2024 at 4:06 am said:
Related?
Related? That’s like asking if you hit the target after sending a round through the exact center of the 10 ring.
Two of the Twitter comments immediately under the rabbi’s video clip to which you linked:
Comment 1.
“Minnervator
@minnervator
May 4
I’m totally secular and always have been, and I would go to Chabad ten times out of ten before I went to a reform anything. When all you worship is social justice and look down on everybody who is right of far left, this is the garbage you create.”
Comment 2.
“Shelley G
@ShelleyGldschmt
May 4
I agree. I think the Tikkun Olam/Social Justice direction that the Reform movement took is what ultimately discredited it.”
Commenter 1 Responds:
“Minnervator
@minnervator
·
May 4
Yes, I would run faster from the words tikkun olam than I would from a kiffeyah”
And oh … look who makes an appearance a bit downstream.
“Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Apr 24
Sen. Sanders’ family was killed in the Holocaust. He dedicates his every moment to realizing tikkun olam.
His commitment to protecting innocents in Gaza stems FROM his Jewish values”
Now, frankly, I had no idea this was so live a topic in the Twitterverse. My comment was based on the mechanics, implications, and sure and certain fallout of ideologically wielded propositional content.
But I am now, given these testimonies, even more confident than before that accounting the provisos I earlier stipulated, that my assertion regarding the tikkun olam concept as presently deployed is producing the actual quotidian effects I asserted it would ideologically entail.
However…one might well wonder whether Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch of Stephen Wise Free Synagogue may, alas, be an outlier in his uncompromising support of Israel…
DNW:
Ask the philosopher a question and you get a defensive tome. Defensive, misdirection much?
Gaia? LOL!
Poodles are arguablly the second or third most intelligent dog breeds BTW. But the philosopher knows that too.
LOL.
Many philosophers are legends in their own minds.
Poodles are smarter than ocasio cortez
Ay dios mio
The point, though—and the problem—is that some people (or in this case, Jews) are so busy trying to improve the world (so to speak—or even…perfect it(?!)) that they have no TIME for the more mundane(?) matters…of helping / assisting / protecting their own (though in some cases, they are actually involved in harming “their own”, as the case may be, in order to “save/perfect the world”). It’s the old Communism vs. Zionism or Communism vs. Bundism—no, not Buddhism—debates of yore (cf. Trotsky); and it’s what gives impetus to Jews who would like Israel to just disappear…because of entirely—the most supremely!—moral reasons, IOW “for the greater good”.
Actually, it’s a type of perversity that seems to affect people who may well be too intelligent to actually think things through…(AKA extremists? fanatics?)…or, more accurately, people who prioritize theorizing over real-world necessities…(AKA “the opiate of the intellectuals”…
(BTW, this incongruity(?) has also been known to occur amongst families, where, say, the parents, or a parent, appear to put everyone else’s priorities before their own families—e.g., “the cobblers children go shoeless” syndrome? Are such people, saints? or merely perverse? See also: Michael Corleone’s desire to enlist in the US Army…something his father simplay CANNOT understand….
(To be sure, where would we be without the illustrious Shlomo Sand…?)
DNW:
Sanders is, as you know, a leftist and that is above all else. Leftism is his religion.
And of course rabbis are aware of tikkun olam. But the run of the mill ethnic Jew doesn’t know what it is.
And reform rabbis as a whole have issued strong pro-Israel statements such as this.That is the majority opinion.
Barry Meislin:
See the link I posted in my comment above this.
then again the Forward is just a shadow of what it used to be now with the likes of Beinart, who traffick in dangerous nonsense,
The optimal position, of course—and likely the most common, when all is said and done—is that Jews (and everyone) help “their own” even as they help the wider societies in which they happen to be living.
No, not all do this, but a significant number.
This follows the age-old rabbinic dictum of praying for the welfare of the city/state/country/place “in which you live”. (Where praying does not mean only prayer but active benevolence and philanthropy.)
Well Beinart is just another example of those perverse brigades of well-meaning imbeciles….
(“Well-meaning”? …Well, um, of course well-meaning. Just ask them…)
he has long proved himself a knave, with his attacks on dr gorka for example,
this Magid remains of another Marion Magid of Commentary who was the bete noire of Edward Hoagland of Esquire, because she dared defend Israel, the good professor is more in the line of Assyrian harlots (they were once in a relationship)
And by the way, tikkun olam in its original and traditional form was completely different than the form it took more recently. See this.
The only reason Sanders was even mentioned here is because of his ostensible connection with tikkun olam, whether its origin be Kabbalistic, or Talmudic, or wherever it truly came from or developed.
Now so, though Sanders was not my focus and referred to only incidentally to show the concept is in the air, if AOC is insufficient authority to link the comcept to him in the public mind, then there are plenty of other examples;
Katie Halper is a Jew For #CeasefireNow
@kthalps
Bernie Sanders is a Jew of the Tikkun Olam tradition. He’s what we Jews call a mensch. You’re what we Jews call a schmuck and a shande far di goyim.
Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
·
May 10, 2023
Bernie Sanders is approximately as Jewish as a ham sandwich topped with shrimp on lard bread
So ….
And of course rabbis are aware of tikkun olam. But the run of the mill ethnic Jew doesn’t know what it is.
I guess that depends on what you mean by run of the mill ethnic. If you are referring to the 70 percent of over 65 years old persons belonging to a reform [ or “Conservative”] temple and overwhelmingly supporting Democrats, then you would probably be wrong.
If you are referring to the 40% of under 30 aged persons wholly or largely estranged from a Jewish identity, then maybe you have a point. Or maybe not depending on just how ignorant and estranged they are.
And reform rabbis as a whole have issued strong pro-Israel statements such as this.That is the majority opinion.
Fine. My point is that this religiously deracinated tikkun olam ideology and conceit is rising up and biting its own proponents in the ass, not that it prevents any of them from supoorting Israel.
for the purposes of this exercise, it’s worshiping the Golden Calf, well more like serving at the Pharoahs court, it is striking what passes for received wisdom
“Bernie Sanders is a Jew of the Tikkun Olam tradition.”
Should be:
“Bernie Sanders is a Jew of the Deceitful Marxist Variant of the Tikkun Olam credo.”
(Fixed it….)
…which false variant compels its believers to threaten and demonize those who don’t quite agree with their particular conception of “repairing the world”…
If any proof were needed…
“You’re what we Jews call a schmuck” is a clear manifestation of that deceitful variant (since TRUE Tikkun-Olamers, let’s call them, don’t go around calling people they disagree with “schmucks”…but the Marxist Varianters just can’t STOP—nor can they stop with the demonization, which appears to be a built-in “feature” of their perfectionism and, needless to say, love of humanity…)
This majority will be furious with Netanyahu if he does not deliver victory. But to capture the disaffected vote, you can’t offer defeat, let alone a nonexistent two-state solution. There are still some 100,000 evacuees who cannot return home to the western Negev or to the north near the border with Hezbollah in Lebanon. No hostage deal will convince them they will now be safe. Moreover, Israelis saw what a determined band of terrorists can do from tiny Gaza. They will not easily opt for a government willing to give the much better armed and trained terrorist Palestinian Authority a chance to do the same from the far bigger area of Judea and Samaria, perched above Israel’s vulnerable coastal plain.
While King Herod’s power relied on making his ties with the all-powerful Rome as conspicuous as possible, rubbing shoulders with the would-be rescuers of Hamas is bound to be a liability for Gantz with his potential voters. And once the U.S. recognizes a Palestinian state, as is rumored to happen this summer, Gantz’s electoral intrigues will become a historical footnote—while the U.S. campaign against its Middle Eastern ally continues.
DNW:
You have it backwards. Leftism is the driving force. Most secular Jews have not even heard the term tikkun olam or don’t know what it means. And ethnically Jewish atheists are the most leftist of all, which makes sense.
There are plenty of leftist Christians, by the way, some of whom are motivated by their own nterpretation of Christianity. Or they are Unitarians who consider themselves Christian. Are they motivated by tikkun olam? Obviously not.
If you read that link I provided you will have seen that reform rabbis support Israel in this fight.
I finally watched the video. A barely superficial treatment of a very meaty subject. Mostly he is expressing his surprise that nonmusicians aren’t as sensitive to tuning as musicians. Shocked, shocked!
FOAF:
That was my impression too — a rare misstep for His Beatoness — but I don’t know music well enough at that level to say.
“…while the U.S. campaign against its Middle Eastern ally continues.”
Not exactly a stellar phrasing.
Let’s try a few more accurate alternatives….
“…while the U.S. campaign against its ex-Middle Eastern ally continues.”
“…while the U.S. campaign against its main Middle Eastern headache continues.”
“…while the U.S. campaign against its new Middle Eastern ally’s arch enemy and target of destruction continues.”
“DNW:
You have it backwards. Leftism is the driving force.
I suppose by that you mean they are motivated by a collectivist mentality plain and simple; and not to any meaningful measure by a Kabbalistic or Talmudic concept reworked and propagated as the special Jewish destiny to heal the world. And as specifically promulgated by Reform and other secular rabbis.
Now, if you are intent on decoupling secular irreligious Jewish human universalism from collectivism per se, and you see the phenomena as causally unrelated, I guess you cam make that move. However, I have a hard time distinguishing a secularized, progressive social centric and preached rabbinical universalism, from some generalized and woke leftism pure and simple. Especially when numerous vocal Jews have been proclaiming precisely that: that they are connected.
And I have quoted a number of Jewish persons in their own words – both approving and disapproving of the impulse – who agree regarding its centrality.
Most secular Jews have not even heard the term tikkun olam or don’t know what it means. ”
I don’t know how you could know that. The abundant anecdotal evidence and self reports in the cases of social justice minded secular Jewish persons seems to indicate otherwise. And additionally , the rough probabilities of familiarity one might derive from the 2020 Pew research polling, concerning which secular minded cohort participated in what, and deducing what messsges they received when there, gives good reason to surmise they were receiving and absorbing regular doses from the pulpit.
And ethnically Jewish atheists are the most leftist of all, which makes sense.
I don’t have an opinion on that.
There are plenty of leftist Christians, by the way, some of whom are motivated by their own nterpretation of Christianity. Or they are Unitarians who consider themselves Christian. Are they motivated by tikkun olam? Obviously not.
And I am quite comfortable saying that they are not Christians however much satisfaction they may derive from their little social gatherings. But this is nothing new and goes back to the 19th century Social Gospel, and the decay of Congregationalism before that.
The infestation of the Roman Catholic Church by homosexual clergy who have squatted in the institutional niches and squandered the spiritual and institutional patrimony of millions of humble believers, represents a somewhat different phenomenon which ends up jn the same place: specifically, atheistic collectivism, a pantomime of a supernatural faith, and eventually, the smoking ash pit.
If you read that link I provided you will have seen that reform rabbis support Israel in this fight.
They should. Meislin’s link revealed as much; and the chagrin of some that the tikkun olam message they had been flogging was in part to blame for the lesser receipt of support than they had expected.
So, I don’t contest that and it is not an issue I addressed.
And with that, I think I wrap up my commentary on tikkun olam
Wow, another tome from the philosopher asking how neo would have insight about what Jews of various political orientation or affinity believe.
Wow, good thing that the philosopher really knows about it.
Hubris and arrogance?
Angry outburst and invective expected.
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No, you’re suffering from ‘Who’s on First?’ syndrome…
it seems like that paul simon song, which only mentioned seven ways,
Amazing interview with Mario Torres, the janitor who was caught in the mob invasion at Hamilton Hall at Columbia University.
https://www.thefp.com/p/exclusive-columbia-custodian-trapped
Exemplary of the real class divide in America.
I saw that several days ago and stopoed watching it about 2/3rds way through.
Although I strongly agree with him regarding auto tune and drum machines and repetitive boring formulae destroying the listenability of music, his tastes in modern pop are still way too generous for me.
As to his point[s], I think he is stating the propositions clearly but in a somewhat confusing narrative.
For those who even took basic guitar lessons as children the two tuning issues are obvious.
1, is the tuning of the guitar to the absolute pitch standard starting with the low open G at 82.41 Hz. Or as we were taught, 12 white keys to the left of middle C on your mom’s piano.
2, is the self tuning as he mentions. The proper stepping distance between the open strings so some played notes are not comparatively flat or sharp.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_tunings
In situations where families had guitars but no tuned piano, tuning forks, or pitch pipes or a traceable instrument to get at least one absolute tone absolutely spot on, relative tuning is the best one could hope for.
We might underestimate how often a rural family might access an absolute scale in a tuned piano or fork, but even if it were months in between, they could do a prety good job by memory and relative self tuning. The high E is particularly easy to remember as an anchor point. The steps are burned in memory and can be checked if imperfectly on the fretboard itself. And if you can then play the problematic hard to tune open C chord in the first position so it sounds right, well that is good enough.
Beato is a regular visit; always interesting.
Israel Update, “The Truth Behind the Hostage Negotiations” (46:13): https://youtu.be/G6fTPE9zjFg?si=dn6_dOP8G5G7Ubhd
Mike and Gadi explore the jumbled state of arm-twisting affairs.
It’s interesting that modern music listeners are just used to the wrongness of the always slightly off tune D chord played on a guitar. At one point I was thinking of buying one of those weird guitars with true temperment frets that “correct” that wrongness. The frets on them are all squiggly looking.
“his tastes in modern pop are still way too generous for me.”
See his latest on the top 10 on Spotify. I think he can’t really say it’s total crap for legal reasons, but you know what he is really thinking. Out of the 10, the only one I thought was half way decent was the new Ariana Grande song..nice structure, good lyrics, minimal autotune. If I was on American Bandstand I’d give it an 7 out of 10. Rick made a good point vis Taylor Swift who has 2 songs in the top 10. He said Taylor could do amazing new things as she has the following, but she keep putting out trash…I guess she needs another jet. Had to laugh at that line.
Not hard to believe that some folks cannot tell when a “wrong” or out of tune note is played.
I can tell – most of the time; I did play a trumpet for several years about 100 years ago.
But a friend of mine – who actually played the clarinet in a high school music class – is absolutely tone deaf. If he played the wrong note, he could not hear that it was the wrong note.
Perhaps it’s akin to navigating your car around town or trying to find the way to a specific place. Some folks (like my wife and daughter) simply cannot do this; they have zero idea if they are heading north or south or east or west. And some folks have no problems knowing which direction they are headed ( OK, I am one of those).
Don’t know if anyone can explain any of this; I can’t.
And another changer—if rather drastic (it seems)—with something illuminating to say (and a Substack account with which to say it):
“A FORMER SAUL ALINSKI TRAINER EXPOSES THE PRO-PALESTINIAN ‘PROTESTS”—
https://instapundit.com/646024/
they ask us to believe 50 improbable things every day, it doesn’t require deep knowledge, but some is necessary,
My band director says that even excellent ensemble members occasionally play out of tune. The difference between them and us 🙂 is that they don’t *stay* out of tune — they detect it instantly and correct it. We’re still working on that.
oh thats interesting,
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1787621100584899020
https://www.insidehook.com/style/met-gala-2024
A Palestinian who refuses to be silenced:
“Michael Higgins: This Palestinian from Gaza has no time for campus protesters;
“Man tortured by Hamas says university encampments motivated by ‘hatred of Jews’ “—
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/michael-higgins-this-palestinian-from-gaza-has-no-time-for-campus-protesters
+ Bonus:
The Cuba Connection…
“Cuba spent years training anti-Israel activists behind campus protests”—
https://justthenews.com/accountability/watchdogs/cuba-spent-years-training-anti-israel-activists-behind-campus-protests
Apparently, Cuba is suffering from Genocide(TM), too.
Guess it’s the next best thing…
Most college students shrug at nationwide protests
When I look at the environment the Israelis are operating in I reflect back to my training. Shipboard security engagement. They’re fighting tunnels. I trained to fight in ships’ passageways. I’m not a braggart. Lots of Sailors can say, nobody is boarding my ship while I’m still alive
I don’t want to be banned. I’ll fight like a lion. I was born in the year of the tiger. I should like tigers. Tigers are better hunters. Lions are better fighters
I’M SORRYSTEVE, we had Marines on my Aircraft Carrier.
I want to be in Israel right now
Shirehime yes I know. I was Marine Corps trained. And trained my Sailors. I have a fine collection of swords. The nice thing about swords and knives is you never run out ammo
Pressure point 1992. AOCS was easy for me because my Coastie dad prepared me
Diving training hurt me
I can admit this because 99.9 percent of men can’t do better
When did this blog become group therapy for Cuckoo’s Nest fabulists?
This cuckoo will shut up now
IrishOtter49 – Back in the days when the US Navy was heavily trained to stop the enemy from boarding American Ships of War. Imagine the shock of American citizens witnessing the Houthi boarding and capturing the USS Gerald R. Ford!?!
Vessels captured from the United States Navy
• the USS Finch (AM-9) was not actually boarded and captured, i.e., it was sunk by the explosion of a nearby Jap bomb, and then salvaged by the Japs and renamed the IJN Patrol Boat 103.
• then there’s the infamous boarding and capture of the USS Pueblo (AGER-2) in 1968.
Looks like the other 34 captured ships occurred between 1776 & 1861.
I lied. I won’t shut up. I’m no fabulist. I’ve been so beaten up. But I can continue. It’s the only thing I can do
Kurt Schlichter addresses being a political changer
—
Will Jewish Voters Stop Voting for the Democrats Who Want to Kill Them?
A habit mixed up with personal identity.
May 7, 2024 by Kurt Schlichter
https://www.frontpagemag.com/will-jewish-voters-stop-voting-for-the-democrats-who-want-to-kill-them/
—
“Jewish Americans are going to have to make a decision – the famously Democrat-leaning minority has a big problem because many of its fellow Democrats want them dead. That’s not an exaggeration – the chant of the Democrat’s left wing is not, ‘From the river to the sea, the Chosen People should be happy, safe, and free.’ Kind of the exact opposite. . . . Yet Jews in America overwhelmingly vote Democrat. You know, this might be a good time to rethink their traditional leftist voting habits, but that conundrum represents a conflict in human nature – the conflict between self-preservation and self-identity.”
—
“A lot of Jewish Americans are very invested in being liberal. That’s who they are. That’s not just a political affiliation but an identity. Imagine you’ve spent 65 years of your life voting for Democrats, and suddenly this happens. Are you ready to make a 180° turn? That’s hard. That’s hard for anybody. It’s human nature. Voting Dem is a habit mixed up with personal identity. That is tough to change, even then the face of indisputable and undeniable evidence like these sociopaths chanting ‘From the river to the sea.’ So, my guess is we’re going to see some Jewish voters swinging to the Republicans, but not most – at least not in 2024. It’s hard to turn on a dime. But we are going to see some movement. It’s a start.”
The pueblo is why I trained so hard
RFK Jr. Calls on Trump to Debate at Libertarian Convention – interesting. Both are speaking at the Libertarian Party’s convention. Both could use more voters. Whatta ya think?
Live Now: 200th Anniversary Performance of Beethoven Symphony 9, original orchestral instruments,etc.: https://www.youtube.com/live/5BD4CcR7Two?si=bJEdrUnK9kWX4slF
Pedo Joe and his family’s pedophile proclivities and behaviors are out of tune with normal society. Regrettably, there may be no other way to bring such people back into tune other than with harsh punishments. Ditto with Mohammedan pedophilia.
Considering that the latter is based on the example set by Mohammed, it’s clear that the presentation of pedophilia among such leaders is for the purpose of discrediting them with responsible society. Whether punishments are brought to bear or not, we are nevertheless afforded awareness of the offending repugnancy.
Moreover, the seen is only for the sake of the seer.
– Patanjali (Satchidananda translation)
Feminists accused of ‘selective outrage’ over muted reaction to Israeli women brutalized by Hamas
‘Selective Outrage‘ =’s Modus Operandi of America’s WOKE far left…
The preponderance of the a-thiest, secular, anti-supernaturalists? One would hope so. But I would not bet on it.
Live by the Tikkun Olam fantasy pseudo religion and conceit, die by it.
Inclusion, acceptance, immersion and validation are more important than life itself to large swaths of humanity.
You can see it in terms of evolutionary psychology if you like. Whether that explanation constitutes a “Just So'” story or not, remains to be confirmed.
But the behavior is historically well enough attested.
I’m thinking the Navy made a mistakbdeclarinhvswords obsolete in 1939
Removing them from the armory. The nice thing about blades is you don’t have to reload them.. my k bar always works
Sdferr, thanks for the Beethoven link.
My m14 needs ammo to work
I accept that. My rifle helps me keep my head on my shoulders
DNW:
Most of these people are ethnic Jews only, and have zero grounding in or belief in any religion whatsoever. Stop blaming Tikkun Olam – most of them have never even heard of it. They are taught leftism, and that’s about it. They – as I’ve explained before – like most other urban people who are not religious, are simply leftists surrounded by leftism.
The more religious Jews are on the right,
Fabulist? I know just how weak I am. My secret is knowing other men’s weaknesses
I’m not invisible. But nobody nobody is
“A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line.” – CS Lewis
If you don’t know what the standard for ‘in tune’ is then ‘out of tune’ becomes relative, or ‘I don’t know that song.’ ‘In tune’ is relative, shifting from song to song. Every song becomes its own determinant of ‘in tune.’
Seems to me a whole bunch of moral, ethical, & public policy decisions today are being made in absence of the knowledge of ‘in tune/straight,’ so we get the relativity we see rampant around us.
Might want to take a moment to thank God for showing us what is in tune & straight in the universe…just a random Open Thread observation. Thanks.
Really?
https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tikkun-olam-repairing-the-world/
2002-2024 My Jewish Learning. All Rights Reserved
And it was a mighty big deal just a couple of elections [and more recently] back, and formed centerpiece of Hillary’s and the Democrat party’s supposed quest for meaning.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2019-12-10/ty-article/hillary-clinton-urges-jewish-labor-activists-not-to-walk-away-ahead-of-2020/0000017f-e2c2-d7b2-a77f-e3c78e8b0000
And so if the sources are to be believed, it seems to be a concept right there up front and center in the consciousness of secular socially attuned Jewish people, and to form a critical part of the moral identity of a significant politically progressive minded subset, be they anti-Zionist, or more of the mainstream “progressive” types which now find themselves confronting the implications of their longstanding assumptions and comittments.
https://www.brandeis.edu/jewish-experience/history-culture/2023/may/tikkun-olam-history.html
May 22, 2023
I don’t know what ardent political partisans or complacent go-alongs actually do know or don’t know. Just as I do not know what college “kids” in general know or don’t know. But I know what a university student at an Ivy League college, or an ardent political person should know about the foundation of their beliefs. And as citizens, there is no god##mned excuse at all for them if they don’t actually know what dead philosopher or authority or dogma they are parroting or following: because they just might get us all effen killed.
Good video.
I’m fortunate to have lots of live music available to me, and while I never set out to listen to much jazz, it’s become one of my main stays.
One of the main reasons why I listen to jazz is because those people are generally so much better musicians, especially when it comes to proper intonation. The last straw for me were a number of latin music cover bands. Salsa, samba, etc. Those bands have to have a “horn” section and usually they stink.
I’d talk to some of friends and say “Wow, those horns are terrible.” Why, what’s wrong? they’d reply. “The intonation.” What’s that? “The pitch.” Huh?
Sigh. No wonder they have terrible horn sections. Most can’t tell the difference.
I do believe that my first paragraph stipulated as much as you state initially; and, by implication, for an allowance such as you have advanced latterly.
Here, I’ll quote myself :
[ATHEIST typo corrected]
Polls nowadays consist of massaged convenience samples.
Physicsguy says:
In truth, I have not been able to tolerate more than a few bars of any radio play pop music since the days of the Smash Mouth hit Walking on the Sun and Chumbawhatever Tubthumping back in the late 1990s
The same goes for so-called “Country Music”.
It’s-all-so-whiny-and- formulaic. If I wanted to listen to crying babies or whining cats, I’d go direct to the source. And the moment I see a pleasure face, an agony face, a straining emoting BS performance, I know exactly what the viewer is in store for and I have no desire to share in it.
And frankly Beato’s nodding emotionally transported reactions to the crap he is reviewing baffles me completely.
So it’s mostly been song book jazz for me the last years. Fusion, is just as boring as modern pop.
But hey, that’s just me. Others resonate to other vibes.
It’s going to sound dirty. But it’s trou. my rifle needs ammo to work.
My knife doesn’t
Unless I use the bayonet and if let you get that close either I’ve done something wrong or I’m in love
After a month-plus-plus of Biden telling Israel “Don’t” invade Rafah w/o his permission – Israel finally had enough of his interference & obvious objectives of helping both Hamas & his own election chances, and went ahead with their planned invasion of Rafah.
Now Biden comes out w/ this: Biden compares Hamas to Nazis and condemns the ‘ferocious surge of antisemitism’ across the U.S. including on college campuses in Holocaust memorial speech. No wonder our enemies don’t fear him…Jeez.
Prime Minister Netanyahu ignored Biden’s don’ts & threats & stopped ammo shipments, and finally put Biden in his place – in front of a World Stage on Holocaust Remembrance Day.
I suspect the nationwide polls showing a growing dislike of antisemitic mobs raging on college campuses has passed the polls of radical Michigan Muslims threatening not to vote for “Genocide Joe”.
I suspect the nationwide polls showing a growing dislike of antisemitic mobs raging on college campuses has passed the polls of radical Michigan Muslims threatening not to vote for “Genocide Joe”.
Karmi:
You may be on to something!
–“Dune ( 1984 – Father, The Sleeper Has Awakened )”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ragXpWsAI
I know there’s a lot of bad news, but I sense the good ship USS America is changing course.
Why is DNW fixated on that percentage of leftist or extreme progressive Jews? It is a recurring theme for the philosopher, Oh well, another axe for him to grind. Something about them being leftists or extreme progressives comes before any other identity. But he knows that?
What’s going to be Brandon’s ultimate “Don’t?”
“Don’t” force him to refuse to concede the election in 2024.
“Don’t” make the Mega Dark Brandon come out.
“Don’t” invoke Martial Law to save Our Democracy!
Just say “Don’t” and FJB.
Re: Painting the giraffe
Another one for AesopFan….
A week ago I was in the tiny French section of a big used bookstore. I found a French translation of a fifties American crime novel. I picked it up and … started reading.
I’ve been able to sorta read French for a while, but this was like really reading. The book, “Hot Spot,” (real French title composed of English loanwords) is based on “Hell Hath No Fury” by Charles Williams. Classic noir stuff, influenced by “Double Indemnity” for a start.
So I’m now reading “Hot Spot” in computer-assisted detail and ran across a charming French idiom:
peindre la girafe — paint the giraffe
Cut to the chase, it means dawdle or goof off. The idea being that painting the dark areas on a giraffe would be a futile waste of time.
Don’t paint the giraffe!
Oh, shhh…it. For Gaia’s sake. Not that damn thing again.
One might as well ask why it is that Om the attention craving poodle is fixated on me. But since I dont care why it does what it does; and yet blind to the obvious as it is it asks why I refer to a-theist progressive Jewish value systems, I hereby provide it the reason.
Because,
https://www.thenewneo.com/2024/05/07/open-thread-5-7-24/#comment-2738487
Now Om, take the rag I have tossed you and scamper off to your corner and shake it like you like to do.
Since that’s all you have ever been good for all these years anyway, you pathetic and resentful little attention craving twerp.
Ha! I’m afraid I just did. At least it gave him a reason to live a few more days.
But truly I wonder, how did some of these miscreants survive to adulthood? Such as it is, for them.
I finally watched the video. A barely superficial treatment of a very meaty subject. Mostly he is expressing his surprise that nonmusicians aren’t as sensitive to tuning as musicians. Shocked, shocked!
Just to take one example of the subject, he talks about Hendrix (and other) recordings having the tape sped up or slowed down. This does happen. But Hendrix, like his devotee Stevie Ray Vaughan, often deliberately tuned his guitar down a half step because it changed the tone of the guitar. Furthermore A440 is not a universal standard. Not to mention as some people above have touched on the difference between “just” intonation and equal temperament. Now those would all be fascinating subjects.
Related?
“Leading Reform Rabbi: What Did We Do Wrong?”—
https://twitter.com/ShelleyGldschmt/status/1786939520384213206
Expanded article:
“Leading New York Reform rabbi launches push against anti-Zionism in the movement”—
https://www.timesofisrael.com/leading-new-york-reform-rabbi-launches-push-against-anti-zionism-in-the-movement/
However…one might well wonder whether Rabbi Ammiel Hirsch of Stephen Wise Free Synagogue may, alas, be an outlier in his uncompromising support of Israel…
Barry Meislin on May 8, 2024 at 4:06 am said:
Related? That’s like asking if you hit the target after sending a round through the exact center of the 10 ring.
Two of the Twitter comments immediately under the rabbi’s video clip to which you linked:
And oh … look who makes an appearance a bit downstream.
Now, frankly, I had no idea this was so live a topic in the Twitterverse. My comment was based on the mechanics, implications, and sure and certain fallout of ideologically wielded propositional content.
But I am now, given these testimonies, even more confident than before that accounting the provisos I earlier stipulated, that my assertion regarding the tikkun olam concept as presently deployed is producing the actual quotidian effects I asserted it would ideologically entail.
……
DNW:
Ask the philosopher a question and you get a defensive tome. Defensive, misdirection much?
Gaia? LOL!
Poodles are arguablly the second or third most intelligent dog breeds BTW. But the philosopher knows that too.
LOL.
Many philosophers are legends in their own minds.
Poodles are smarter than ocasio cortez
Ay dios mio
The point, though—and the problem—is that some people (or in this case, Jews) are so busy trying to improve the world (so to speak—or even…perfect it(?!)) that they have no TIME for the more mundane(?) matters…of helping / assisting / protecting their own (though in some cases, they are actually involved in harming “their own”, as the case may be, in order to “save/perfect the world”). It’s the old Communism vs. Zionism or Communism vs. Bundism—no, not Buddhism—debates of yore (cf. Trotsky); and it’s what gives impetus to Jews who would like Israel to just disappear…because of entirely—the most supremely!—moral reasons, IOW “for the greater good”.
Actually, it’s a type of perversity that seems to affect people who may well be too intelligent to actually think things through…(AKA extremists? fanatics?)…or, more accurately, people who prioritize theorizing over real-world necessities…(AKA “the opiate of the intellectuals”…
Here’s another example: Presenting Sha’ul Magid…
“Magid’s Magical Thinking”—
https://www.commentary.org/articles/daniel-kane/jewish-diaspora-exile-shaul-magid/
(BTW, this incongruity(?) has also been known to occur amongst families, where, say, the parents, or a parent, appear to put everyone else’s priorities before their own families—e.g., “the cobblers children go shoeless” syndrome? Are such people, saints? or merely perverse? See also: Michael Corleone’s desire to enlist in the US Army…something his father simplay CANNOT understand….
(To be sure, where would we be without the illustrious Shlomo Sand…?)
DNW:
Sanders is, as you know, a leftist and that is above all else. Leftism is his religion.
And of course rabbis are aware of tikkun olam. But the run of the mill ethnic Jew doesn’t know what it is.
And reform rabbis as a whole have issued strong pro-Israel statements such as this.That is the majority opinion.
Barry Meislin:
See the link I posted in my comment above this.
then again the Forward is just a shadow of what it used to be now with the likes of Beinart, who traffick in dangerous nonsense,
The optimal position, of course—and likely the most common, when all is said and done—is that Jews (and everyone) help “their own” even as they help the wider societies in which they happen to be living.
No, not all do this, but a significant number.
This follows the age-old rabbinic dictum of praying for the welfare of the city/state/country/place “in which you live”. (Where praying does not mean only prayer but active benevolence and philanthropy.)
Well Beinart is just another example of those perverse brigades of well-meaning imbeciles….
(“Well-meaning”? …Well, um, of course well-meaning. Just ask them…)
he has long proved himself a knave, with his attacks on dr gorka for example,
this Magid remains of another Marion Magid of Commentary who was the bete noire of Edward Hoagland of Esquire, because she dared defend Israel, the good professor is more in the line of Assyrian harlots (they were once in a relationship)
And by the way, tikkun olam in its original and traditional form was completely different than the form it took more recently. See this.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/un-official-duped-by-fake-rabbis-invite-to-speak-on-morality-of-intifada-at-anti-israel-protest?topStoryPosition=2
is there any campus which isn’t a den of scum and villainy,
https://freebeacon.com/campus/at-mit-administrators-allow-unlawful-encampment-to-displace-lawful-israeli-independence-day-event/
Well, that’s fine. But that does not mean that tikkun olam is not an ostensibly motivating concept in the air among secular and even irreligious or anti-supernaturalist “Jews”.
https://forward.com/news/439646/bernie-sanders-cnn-jewish-identity/
The only reason Sanders was even mentioned here is because of his ostensible connection with tikkun olam, whether its origin be Kabbalistic, or Talmudic, or wherever it truly came from or developed.
Now so, though Sanders was not my focus and referred to only incidentally to show the concept is in the air, if AOC is insufficient authority to link the comcept to him in the public mind, then there are plenty of other examples;
So ….
I guess that depends on what you mean by run of the mill ethnic. If you are referring to the 70 percent of over 65 years old persons belonging to a reform [ or “Conservative”] temple and overwhelmingly supporting Democrats, then you would probably be wrong.
If you are referring to the 40% of under 30 aged persons wholly or largely estranged from a Jewish identity, then maybe you have a point. Or maybe not depending on just how ignorant and estranged they are.
Fine. My point is that this religiously deracinated tikkun olam ideology and conceit is rising up and biting its own proponents in the ass, not that it prevents any of them from supoorting Israel.
for the purposes of this exercise, it’s worshiping the Golden Calf, well more like serving at the Pharoahs court, it is striking what passes for received wisdom
“Bernie Sanders is a Jew of the Tikkun Olam tradition.”
Should be:
“Bernie Sanders is a Jew of the Deceitful Marxist Variant of the Tikkun Olam credo.”
(Fixed it….)
…which false variant compels its believers to threaten and demonize those who don’t quite agree with their particular conception of “repairing the world”…
If any proof were needed…
“You’re what we Jews call a schmuck” is a clear manifestation of that deceitful variant (since TRUE Tikkun-Olamers, let’s call them, don’t go around calling people they disagree with “schmucks”…but the Marxist Varianters just can’t STOP—nor can they stop with the demonization, which appears to be a built-in “feature” of their perfectionism and, needless to say, love of humanity…)
Gadi Taub, Tablet Mag, “The Gantz Megillah”: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/gantz-megillah-biden-gaza
DNW:
You have it backwards. Leftism is the driving force. Most secular Jews have not even heard the term tikkun olam or don’t know what it means. And ethnically Jewish atheists are the most leftist of all, which makes sense.
There are plenty of leftist Christians, by the way, some of whom are motivated by their own nterpretation of Christianity. Or they are Unitarians who consider themselves Christian. Are they motivated by tikkun olam? Obviously not.
If you read that link I provided you will have seen that reform rabbis support Israel in this fight.
I finally watched the video. A barely superficial treatment of a very meaty subject. Mostly he is expressing his surprise that nonmusicians aren’t as sensitive to tuning as musicians. Shocked, shocked!
FOAF:
That was my impression too — a rare misstep for His Beatoness — but I don’t know music well enough at that level to say.
“…while the U.S. campaign against its Middle Eastern ally continues.”
Not exactly a stellar phrasing.
Let’s try a few more accurate alternatives….
“…while the U.S. campaign against its ex-Middle Eastern ally continues.”
“…while the U.S. campaign against its main Middle Eastern headache continues.”
“…while the U.S. campaign against its new Middle Eastern ally’s arch enemy and target of destruction continues.”
I suppose by that you mean they are motivated by a collectivist mentality plain and simple; and not to any meaningful measure by a Kabbalistic or Talmudic concept reworked and propagated as the special Jewish destiny to heal the world. And as specifically promulgated by Reform and other secular rabbis.
Now, if you are intent on decoupling secular irreligious Jewish human universalism from collectivism per se, and you see the phenomena as causally unrelated, I guess you cam make that move. However, I have a hard time distinguishing a secularized, progressive social centric and preached rabbinical universalism, from some generalized and woke leftism pure and simple. Especially when numerous vocal Jews have been proclaiming precisely that: that they are connected.
And I have quoted a number of Jewish persons in their own words – both approving and disapproving of the impulse – who agree regarding its centrality.
I don’t know how you could know that. The abundant anecdotal evidence and self reports in the cases of social justice minded secular Jewish persons seems to indicate otherwise. And additionally , the rough probabilities of familiarity one might derive from the 2020 Pew research polling, concerning which secular minded cohort participated in what, and deducing what messsges they received when there, gives good reason to surmise they were receiving and absorbing regular doses from the pulpit.
I don’t have an opinion on that.
And I am quite comfortable saying that they are not Christians however much satisfaction they may derive from their little social gatherings. But this is nothing new and goes back to the 19th century Social Gospel, and the decay of Congregationalism before that.
The infestation of the Roman Catholic Church by homosexual clergy who have squatted in the institutional niches and squandered the spiritual and institutional patrimony of millions of humble believers, represents a somewhat different phenomenon which ends up jn the same place: specifically, atheistic collectivism, a pantomime of a supernatural faith, and eventually, the smoking ash pit.
They should. Meislin’s link revealed as much; and the chagrin of some that the tikkun olam message they had been flogging was in part to blame for the lesser receipt of support than they had expected.
So, I don’t contest that and it is not an issue I addressed.
And with that, I think I wrap up my commentary on tikkun olam
Wow, another tome from the philosopher asking how neo would have insight about what Jews of various political orientation or affinity believe.
Wow, good thing that the philosopher really knows about it.
Hubris and arrogance?
Angry outburst and invective expected.