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  1. I use https://covidtracking.com/data/. There are also links to state sites and histories. Note that the states don’t update their own stats continuously. Utah, for instance, updates daily around noon. Not all states have data on hospitalizations and such.

  2. Chuck here gave me covidtracking.com/data. Ha, you beat me Chuck.

    I generally go to Wikipedia and look at the 2020 U.S.A. coronavirus data. Scroll way down and you can find links to individual states, and things like additional deaths each day. Though latter does not seem to be universal. I’m referring to the other pages I look at, Germany, Italy, U.S.A. and US states. Most have daily death numbers, but some don’t, or I missed it.

    Italy’s daily death numbers look sort of flat for about 5 days.

    BTW, the prose commentary on Wikipedia is often atrocious, but official numbers are what they are. I haven’t dug deeply into the U.K. numbers but at first glance they don’t make any sense to me.

  3. Edward:

    I had started out a while back using that worldometers site, but I think I abandoned it because it didn’t figure out case fatality rates. Of course, I could do that math myself, but I preferred a site that did it for me because that’s much more convenient. But I think that worldometers site at least updates better than the other, and also seems to have the number of serious cases. So thanks!

    I am very suspicious of the “serious, critical” data, by the way. For a long time the US figure was stuck, and very low, and obviously not correct. Now it seems to be corrected, but for a lot of countries I think that statistic just isn’t being counted effectively.

  4. I did… got tired of mentioning it.. it updates slower to be correct

    on another note..
    What is herd immunity and can it stop the coronavirus?
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615375/what-is-herd-immunity-and-can-it-stop-the-coronavirus/
    Once enough people get Covid-19, it will stop spreading on its own. But the costs will be devastating.

    [notice it wasnt enough to say it will stop… ]

    There are basically three ways to stop the Covid-19 disease for good. One involves extraordinary restrictions on free movement and assembly, as well as aggressive testing, to interrupt its transmission entirely. That may be impossible now that the virus is in over 100 countries. The second is a vaccine that could protect everyone, but it still needs to be developed.

    A third is potentially effective but horrible to consider: just wait until enough people get it.

    the first one never works
    the second one cant work with ‘new’ things
    the last one is proven in history and what we are waiting for

    But shooting for herd immunity right away would be a disastrous strategy, according to the newest models. That’s because so many people will become severely ill—and a sudden boom in sick people needing hospital or ICU care will overwhelm hospitals. The UK this week signaled it would instead do more to suppress the virus, including discouraging gatherings. Slowing it down would mean health systems could be spared and lives saved, but ultimately the result could be the same. That is, even if the pandemic is drawn out over time, it may still take herd immunity to bring it to an end.

    yet… the US handles the world level of covid 19 deaths with flu
    yes… covid 19 worldwide deaths have yet to match US flu deaths in a good year
    in a bad year, like 2018, its 60,000 – so this is fear mongering by idiots teaching idiots – it has the benefit of selling more, and the other benefit the author wont be attacked for saying other than the herd expects!

    About 80,000 people have recovered from the coronavirus already, and it’s likely they are now resistant, although the degree of immunity remains unknown. “I would be surprised, but not totally surprised, if people did not become immune,” says Myron Levine, an infectious disease expert at the University of Maryland. Some viruses, like the flu, do find ways to keep changing, which is why immunity against such seasonal germs isn’t complete.

    her comment is incompetent and not qualified enough..
    if she was being truthful, we would all die of the flu in a few years..
    but we dont… and she also knows, given her degree, that most things evolve to be LESS deadly… deadly is bad for virus survival… so as one epidemiologist said (who was consulted for the movie with dustin hoffman) – they only get worse in the movies…

  5. Check out the https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ site – they have been improving the site. They now have a cases per million pop as well as death per million population.

    I like it because it links to the sources so you can read the source. IF you click on USA it goes to another page where it lists the states, including sources which in most cases is the state’s website and they usually have more info like cases/death by county, age, sex, etc.

  6. Liz:

    Thanks. I never saw the info about per capita cases there before. I have to check that out right now.

  7. On the worldometers site it is interesting to do a sort on the total cases per capita data in the 2nd last column on the right. #1 is San Marino & #2 is Vatican. Both completely surrounded by Italy. #3 is Faeroe Islands and you wonder how the virus got there. #4 is Andorra which is in the middle of Spain and France.

  8. I can’t answer Neo’s question, but for what it’s worth, here’s a list of sites that display large compilations of coronavirus data. These are just sites I look at. Sites specific to a particular state or country aren’t included.

    Worldometer US Coronavirus
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    COVID-19 Global Cases – Open Source Version
    https://chschoenenberger.shinyapps.io/covid19_dashboard/

    Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) – Statistics and Research – Our World in Data
    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

    Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline – BNO News
    https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/03/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

    Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    The COVID Tracking Project – Most Recent Data
    https://covidtracking.com/data/

    COVID-19 Statistics Site: COVID19STATS.GLOBAL
    http://covid19stats.global/

    Coronavirus Dashboard
    https://ncov2019.live/data

    Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population RealClearPolitics
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/

  9. Three quick stories about COVID in general.
    Some are good news, some are not so good.

    Two weeks was the time interval before the staff could get them disinfected.
    https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/03/23/study-coronavirus-lingered-cruise-ship-cabins-17-days/

    A new study has found that coronavirus was able to survive inside cruise ship cabins for more than two weeks after they were vacated, including the cabins of people who tested positive but had no symptoms.

    Don’t get too optimistic about flattening our own curve.
    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/03/24/uh-oh-singapore-hong-kong-reimpose-coronavirus-restrictions-second-wave-cases/

    Saving the sort of good news for last.
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/03/23/nyt-new-symptom-has-doctors-recommending-testing-and-isolation-amid-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-in-us-n2565557

    Young people can still get really sick, but a great many will either have mild symptoms or be asymptomatic. That’s good and bad news. The bad news is that since people who are mild-to-asymptomatic-aren’t deathly ill, they could go outside and spread it to those who are highly susceptible to dying from the virus. This disease can survive in the air for hours and on certain surfaces for up to three days. The symptoms are fever, cough, fatigue, and difficulty breathing. Yet, across the pond, in the UK, we have a new symptom that is causing concern for doctors: loss of smell (via NYT):

    I definitely could smell my kitchen trash in the can this morning when I raised the lid, so maybe I’m still okay.

  10. …A new study has found that coronavirus was able to survive…[17 days]

    Not really though. What the study found wasn’t intact virus particles as such, but merely identifiable RNA left behind (post deterioration).This stuff can’t infect anyone. But the press plays up the scare factor. It’s what they do.

  11. One problem I have with some of the statistics is akin to the “apples and oranges” problem. Definitions and context matter.

    Definitions: IIRC, during the Cold War, on of the Communist countries had fantastically low infant mortality rates. The percentage of deaths within a few months of a live birth was very small. Turned out that an infant had to survive awhile (two weeks?) before it was considered a “live birth”. So…Italy records any death of a person with Wu-flu as that being the cause of death.

    Context is especially important in looking at infection rates. If a goodly number of the infected are asymptomatic and only the symptomatic are tested, then the infection rate will be far from real.

  12. So many posts from Neo yesterday, I decided to go here for morning update: some small changes. Active cases still exponential with a prediction of near 60000 cases by tomorrow. However “new cases” and “serious cases” show a slight flattening. It is probably statistical noise, but we will see in a few days. Given the proximity to NYC, CT cases is now somewhere between linear and exponential with largest cluster in Greenwich county; also not surprising.

    Recovered cases still way low at 379, where I predict 1210 for a two week recovery, and 8800 for a 1 week recovery.

  13. The Youtube videos by Roger Seheult, MD of Medcram are excellent for understanding the biochemistry. Check them out.

  14. This comment is a little off-topic, but it’s at least relevant to the question of data accuracy.

    At his blog, “West Hunter,” Greg Cochran cites an Italian newspaper article that passionately argues that deaths due to the virus have been greatly underestimated, because many people have died at home or in nursing homes.

    Official death counts are those from hospitals only. Someone has added a comment that the same thing is happening in France.

    To read the articles, I used a combination of my very poor memory of French and Spanish, along with the Google Translate browser extension, which worked surprisingly well.

    The Italian article is here: https://tinyurl.com/s3rb9e2

    The French article is here: https://tinyurl.com/sshzzhx

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