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  1. Being retired we haven’t spent that many days away from home normally anyway, but being more restricted in our options is definitely a new mind set. It is depressing, and it really is only a just few days with this new situation. What is everyone going to be like in a week, or two? I don’t think people are going to tolerate this well. Some good news on the horizon: Thursday looks cold and rainy for New England, but Friday looks like a nice spring day…at least get outside some.

  2. My mom has been in lockdown since last Wednesday night and today they tightened it even more. Previously you get your mail or do laundry as long as you stayed at least six feet away from others but now the mail carrier won’t be allowed in the building and the staff will sort the mail (is that even legal? Ha ha who cares right?) and they can only leave their rooms for doctor appts and my mom is scared they won’t let her back in if she goes.

    She’s going crazy and it’s not good for her mentally because she really needs human interaction.

    I don’t know about all this. In my most pessimistic moments I think this is a big turning point for this country and not in a good way. Worse than 9/11 because most parts of the country had little direct negative impacts.

  3. Griffin:

    I assume your mom is in some sort of assisted living? A particularly at-risk population, so the measures are extra-strict. I wonder how the emotional effects will act to offset the benefits. Such a difficult thing! The situation in that nursing home in Kirkland near Seattle must have really scared people who run any facility for the elderly. No doubt they are also afraid of lawsuits if they don’t do all of this.

  4. neo,

    Yeah, they call it independent senior living and she has a one bedroom apartment and she is, or was, independent with help from my siblings and me. She was really down Sunday so my sister spent a couple hours with her (had to have temp taken before entering) and that cheered her up but she can only have one visitor a day we have decided not to visit her unless really needed. They will take groceries at the door and take them to her.

    She lives a couple of hours from Kirkland but in Washington state and they are the ones setting all these rules but they are so open ended nobody knows when they will relax any of them.

    Also the physical effects of such an extreme sedentary lifestyle is not good. Normally she walks around quite a bit but now it’s bedroom living room bathroom and that’s it.

  5. Griffin, sort of like 9/11 but to me worse. I was in shock the first couple of days, then when it became clear there would be no more attacks, I think people became energized to pull together to rebuild, and also deal with the threat. We weren’t isolated from each other. In fact, two weeks later we made a trip to OBX as we aready had the house rented, and enjoyed our week at the beach.

    This has a much more depressing feel to it..isolation stretching out to time unknown. Add to that, fear about economic upheaval. If we make it through this, it will go down, to me, as one of those “never forget” events: JFK assassination, moon landing, Iran hostage, 9/11.. As many Millennials were very young at 9/11, I wonder how they are going to view this?

  6. Griffin:

    The lack of exercise has its own bad effect. How awful! I wonder if there’s some exercise equipment you could bring to her room. Or if she has a computer or smart phone, there are YouTube videos that guide you through home exercises geared for the elderly. Maybe she could take up Tai Chi through video? Or chair exercise, or marching in place to music, or any number of things depending on her mobility. I am completely serious here.It might take her mind off things, too.

  7. I’m retired, introverted, and not very social. The spread of the Wuhan coronavirus hasn’t affected me personally at all.

    I expect that many more people in the US will become infected, but that mitigation efforts will be somewhat effective. Best guess: peak in June, and then hot, humid summer weather will kill off much of the virus population. By then, how many will have acquired immunity? Will there be another wave of infection next winter?

    Anyway, these are the questions I ask myself, and I confess to a fascination that goes beyond mere rubber-necking at the scene of a train wreck. There’s a part of me that finds this exciting. I think even the math is interesting. But, for better or worse, I’m way too old to indulge in the self-examination that such a confession might prompt.

  8. physicsguy,

    Yeah, after 9/11 I didn’t work the rest of that week and we went out to eat and it felt like everybody was together and I played golf with my dad (the weather was beautiful here that whole week) and it was a scary time but I felt no imminent danger. Now good lord we went to Walmart this morning and it was a weird sense of the unknown like I’ve never felt before. Plus the shelves were very empty.

  9. “I’m also feeling low – how about you? I try to fight it, but it’s a combination of worry about health, economics, and politics; anger at so much of what comes out of the MSM and the left…” Neo

    I work alone in my office and our construction company works solely on high-end single-family individual residences so no change in my work schedule. I take care of our grandchildren miniumum once/week so plenty of getting out. I was taken aback when they closed the entire zoo here in L.A. I, too am fighting not succumbing to anger and upset. What is going on politically is hard to believe. I fear it more than the virus for sure.

  10. 9/11 was followed by the anthrax scare, which added to it and was a little bit like this.

    One major difference was that it faded because in actuality not much happened with the anthrax scare. And in addition, although the media already hated Bush, they managed to set a much much better tone than now for quite some time. There were people rooting against the US, but most people weren’t, and that includes the media.

  11. neo,

    She’s not to computer savvy but she likes to read and has read like two books in the last few days and my sister got her a bunch of puzzle books which can keep her mind active and she has been watching a ton of tv. She does chair exercises ( or says she does lol).

    What makes it even more ridiculous her apartment opens to huge courtyard where she walks if the weather is nice but they aren’t allowed out there right now.

    We’ve talked about taking her home with one of us (which our overlords have deemed allowable) but then she can’t return for who knows how long and also she would be exposed to all of us.

    Honestly this may do more harm to the elderly than just being really careful. But as you said I’m sure the facility management lives in mortal of fear of being the next Kirkland.

    In many ways she is in the weirdest spot because she is definitely at a high risk but it’s not like she is confined to bed in a nursing home.

  12. I’m feeling a bit more tired, and lathargic.

    So I’m napping even more than usual. Plus staying up late, then getting up late.
    We’re all healthy.

  13. I don’t react well to ANY stressful situations. So I’m in a tizzy. After I post this I’m going back to a self-imposed news embargo for at least 48 hours.

    As I posted yesterday we’re retired and are taking the opportunity to go through our collection of slides. We always thought about digitizing them but never actually did it.

    While we had some vacation plans in mind we hadn’t scheduled anything.

    Thanks for listening (reading?) everyone and stay healthy and safe.

    And, in a riff to any aging hipsters out there …

    Peace, Love and Purell!

  14. Griffin:

    It’s awful that they’re not allowed into the courtyard to walk. That would do them a world of good. Maybe suggest to the management that they stagger the let-out times so not too many people are out there at once. And someone from staff out there to make sure they don’t cluster together. You might emphasize that the lack of exercise and sunlight could make them sick and the place could be in trouble for that.

  15. Tom Grey,

    Yeah we are trying to stay up later and sleep longer since we don’t have to get up and go. But it’s so hard to change years of sleep patterns.

  16. You’re going through what we went through in Hong Kong / Taiwan 6 or 7 weeks ago. You’ll be surprised how quickly our brave new world becomes the new normal. Logistics gradually get sorted out and supermarkets restock. People begin to police minimal expected standards of personal hygiene behavior and develop a bit more self-reliance.

    (OTOH there is very little Snowflakery in the Chinese and doubly so Cantonese Cosmos — people are very blunt at the best of times. I think the West will need To engage in some therapeutic bitch slapping of many individuals in the weeks to come.)

    I went hiking in the hills of Lantau Island yesterday. It was rather nice. There’s a lot to be said to for getting outdoors and getting fresh air and sunshine and exercise whilst one’s electronic devices are turned off.

    Up in the hills could look down on the reclaimed island about 10km away that HKIA sits on. Just about every bit of apron was covered by parked planes not going anywhere. But it wasn’t that depressing because I was alive and yomping around in the hills and getting some Vitamin D.

    In conclusion, getting away from media and getting on with it is the best medicine. Can feel for sure that I’m re-energized and all set to begin my daily shyte posting with a spring in my step.

  17. I am angry. I am watching the world being burned down.
    Friends put out of their jobs and their businesses.
    Men promoting fear.
    Fear ruling men.
    And I have a slight sore throat.
    That’s how I am.

  18. As Griffin pointed out, many of us have elderly relatives and the general fears + lockdowns are not going to be super good psychologically for them and us. Concern for the Elderly + Children (who seem so far to be OK) should probably be the only two emotional indulgences we allow ourselves in the coming months.

    Re policies in Nursing Homes + fear of lawsuits: This is the first plague humanity has experienced under the heel of Managerialist Bugmen with packs of activist Federal Judges running interference and salivating Tort Lawyers in the wings. It’s going to be interesting to see how things pan out with all this sand in the gears. Goes on long enough it may be necessary to string up a few of the aforementioned pour encourager les autres.

  19. I am angry. I am watching the world being burned down.
    Friends put out of their jobs and their businesses.
    Men promoting fear.

    No comment.

  20. Neo, Neo, your moods, thoughts and impulses seem to parallel mine in uncanny ways. But through all the gloom and intellectual inertia, pause and think. We are in the midst of a sublime wonder — you and I and others in this salon are experiencing it this instant, through strokes on little plastic squares engraved with the alphabet. The market for commiseration or celebration is free and wide for us. No need to keep social distance as we stroll through it. And if we choose to keep to ourselves, we are a finger’s touch away from the great art, music and literature of the world; the lowest and highest forms of entertainment are at our command. Could the great minds of ancient ages even dared to dream such a thing possible? The estimable Vanderleun bids you listen to Mozart or Debussy. I suggest, perhaps, some ballet performance or some Monty Python. Or feel the heft of a friendly old book and visit with Shakespeare. Even in our darkest moods. The possibilities!

  21. Pint o’ stout, . . . then another . . . then two or four more . . . then . . . argle-bargle, another. . . or two, depending on whether there’s room for four or five more. B’gab

  22. Our paper investments have dropped by 35%. I wish the fearmongering SOBs a painful, lingering death.

  23. My partner had to retire early from a high level (but not surgeon) operating room job because of a sudden onset of a rare autoimmune lung disease, so our household is at high risk. We are used to excellent hygiene and some degree of social distancing, and are both fit and active living in a rural area.

    My mother is in her late nineties and had a good run of independent living in her own home, driving even, until breaking a hip in a fall last year. Since then she has been in an assisted living facility, I visit her every day. Until Saturday, when they locked down the place, family visits are permitted only for end of life situations.

    Mother is frail and a bit bewildered, has an iPod but really cannot figure out how to use it. She misses my visits, and we had hard enough time making her use her walker to stroll around the facility for some exercise and stimulation when we were allowed in. Now she just sits in her chair with the television on with the sound cranked most of the way up. Staff are in a tizzy, so they can’t really spend much time helping her be more active.

    My retirement savings just lost an alarming proportion, I’m recovering from surgery a couple of weeks ago that could not be done this week, as elective surgeries have been postponed so medical providers and facilities are available should the virus run amok. Everyone I know who is still working has no idea if their business or job will ever recover, and the Governor has pretty much locked down much of the state.

    My big worry is my partner, who is especially vulnerable to opportunistic infections. The economic woes are bad, but we are thankful for what we have, and are trying to help out some less fortunate folks in the area. I’m convinced life will never be the same, in ways we still have not realized. This is not good, but every day we are alive is a blessing.

  24. The gloom and doom is especially tiresome. This is just deja vu all over again.

    Hiding under desks because nuclear war.
    Annual flu scares.
    The next ice age.
    Global hotcoldwetdry hysteria, how dare you.
    Oh my gods we’re all going to die.

    Been there, heard it before, boring.
    The wisdom of age, hopefully, is you remember you’ve heard it before.

    The gloom and doom is boring, and far worse than what you fear, unless you want to deep 6 the economy because orangemanbad.

  25. On the bright side, people are buying more guns. So it will be harder for the left to take them away.

  26. neo,

    Odd you mention this now. I tend to be guardedly optimistic and upbeat, especially at work. Yesterday I found myself seeking a back corner in a darkened, empty conference room and put my head in my hands for about 10 minutes.

    It caught me off guard. Hadn’t really planned it. I just found myself walking into the room and slumping onto a chair.

    After I got up I tried to figure out what had just happened.

    I think getting rest and spending time outdoors would be good for us all.

  27. I’m also feeling low – how about you?

    I am feeling calm and happy.

    Finally, humanity will be seeing some of what I have seen. That is good.

    Ed Bonderenka on March 17, 2020 at 7:09 pm said:
    I am angry. I am watching the world being burned down.

    Did somebody here actually think the Divine was NOT going to burn the world down?

    They needed to read more Ymar.

  28. For me, and probably for many of us, it’s a low-level but constant buzzing anxiety. On the surface, all is well. I am fortunate to have the kind of job where you can work from home and still get paid — unlike my hair stylist, a single mother who’s, rightfully, so worried about her livelihood, the future of her salon, and her ability to provide for her family that she got tearful telling me about it. My grown-up children, my grandchildren, and my siblings and their children are mostly fine, beyond some ordinary losses and anxieties that were mostly already there. My retirement account has taken a huge whack, like everybody’s, and I’m going to need it soon — but that’s probably manageable, and it’ll probably mostly recover before I really have to have it, I think. I hope. Anyway, I’m not worried about my health or my husband’s. By the numbers alone, we’re in one of the higher risk groups, but we’re both healthy and active, without any chronic diseases or immunity issues, and with reasonable care, we should be fine. I’m not nearly so sanguine about some of my older and more fragile frends and family members.

    But what’s bothering me is the general miasma of the unknown hanging over everything. Already the time when everything wasn’t like this seems like another time. How long will this last? How much harm will it do — not just the illness itself, but the measures being taken in the uncertain hope of ameliorating it? Is the cure worse than the disease? Just how much is life going to change, maybe forever, in ways we can’t imagine or prevent?

    And yet, it’s a new experience, after so many years of working and raising children, to be at home, alone, my time my own. In the office, I don’t usually listen to background music, because the kind of writing that I do doesn’t play well with distractions. But I miss it, and without the interuptions of the office, today I worked with the background of my Bach station on Pandora, which served up the Brandenbergs, Couperin, Handel, Chopin, Satie, Mozart, a little Beethoven. With all of that timeless beauty, and the novelty of enough time to listen, there began to seem less and less reason to give way to worry as the day flowed on.

    How long that kind of thing will last, I don’t know, but for the time being, I’ll take it.

  29. Satan is a fallen angel, just sayin boy.

    Naw, Heyl-El’s story is slightly different than what humans have told christians.

    As for Satan, the word means prosecutor or opposition. Just like the term, elohim, it is a plural, not a person. It’s a title, like the Christ, and not a single entity.

    Humanity just keeps getting more and more ignorant as time goes on.

  30. Nothing made in China lasts for long. This scare will abate quite soon. It is 80% phony. The rest 20% are widly exagerrated.

  31. My 14 yo son in Slovakia has to look at his edupage to see homework. All schools closed for 2 weeks as of Monday. Lots of e-learning. I started reviewing geometry with him using Khan Academy.

    All who come back from outside Slovakia are in lite lockdown, with a $1700 fine for those wrongly out. Austria & Hungary are not allowing foreigners to pass thru the borders. Our niece, studying in Holland, was not allowed to go thru Austria to come back home; she had to go back to Holland. Where few precautions are being taken.

    Car makers have stopped making cars (Slovakia makes the most cars, per capita, of any country! Sort of like central Europe Detroit.) This will be a really bad year for car makers – a “new car” is usually very optional, expensive, and easily deferred for a few months or even a year.

    There was an election 29 Feb – big change in gov’t. So this crisis, and lite lockdown, is the big news on top of the changes in gov’t.

    All bars and restaurants and discos are closed. Only grocery stores & drugstores & gas stations open. The stores have most supplies without too much shortages. Virtually all the folks outside are wearing masks; my wife made us some from a DIY design found.

    Wife, a professor, has been doing e-teaching for her classes. She spent a day, with 2 sons, daughter, & daughter in law, translating into Slovak a (boring) 70 page WHO document, for the Ministry of Health. For a good friend, who’s actually doing most of the top health work being done, in these weeks of gov’t change.

    Our second son, getting a masters degree in Nuclear Engineering and living at home and studying, continues doing a little studying and lots of internet playing & reading. Full of interesting facts, on the few occasions when he comes out to talk. (We worry about him drifting into a Japanese style recluse.) He’ll be 23 in April.

    Our family is in really good working middle class shape, in our owned condo-flat in Bratislava, the capital. (We pay a lot for “condo fees”) Now time for lunch, then a walk.

    A friend told us about FREE streaming opera from NY Met, we’ll probably try to see some but haven’t yet.

  32. I feel a fairly constant low-grade anxiety, which reminds me often to pray for courage and patience. My two fears are: getting sick enough to have to resort to a hospital that will have degenerated into something out of Hieronymus Bosch, and seeing the supply lines even more disrupted than they are already. I took considerable comfort from the President’s press conference last Sunday, detailing the work with industry leaders in the food and medical fields. I think we have what it takes to keep the supply of food moving. I’m less confident we can avoid a horrorshow in the hospitals, but I think we’ll do better than Italy, for what that’s worth.

  33. “I’m also feeling low – how about you?

    How do those assembled feel about Gershwin tunes?

    Finding oneself in Manhattan or one of her six, sister Burroughs between May and July?

  34. The comedy gold will be when Omni mind’s technology and the sun turns off for a few days.

    It’s nice that people can still feel humor in this situation, although I think most are just pretending right now.

    Wake up, humanity. The Divine Plan proceeds according to plan, even though it might have been delayed by 2000 years due to Yeshua being blocked by the rejection of his people.

    This is the ultimate test for people who think they don’t pay attention to the media. If you watch the media, your emotions are already manipulated and controlled. Do you see how this affects you? And if you get sick due to your immune system being compromised by media fear… who ya gonna blame, Ymar?

  35. Dan D, So sorry for your Mom and others in her same position. When we need each other most, to be cut off from those who truly love and care for us, and mostly due to fear, plain old fear is a terrible hardship. Last year my husband and I focused on the word “courage” in our prayers for the global church. This year we are focusing on “confidence” as in having confidence in God. Whether what we are facing is the judgment of God on our western world for its many sins or just another firey dart from the enemy of God and his people, we cannot know. But I trust and have confidence in God. Prayers for you and your partner as you face your personal circumstances in this unprecedented crisis in our nation. I like your attitude of thankfulness and service in the midst of challenges. I hope we all can rise to that place.

  36. We have already had the shit scared out of us. My wife and I are in the death demographic.

    Several weeks ago, my son and I took a trip to tend to my recently widowed 84YO mother. The distance is only 50 miles but round trip including 5 hours on-site takes 15 hours. Shortly after that I get a from my brother that my mother has fallen and her Apple watch called the paramedics and she is okay. In the middle of that call, I get a call from my son that his school is closed for two days to decontaminate. WTH? He goes to Lake Washington Institute of Technology in Kirkland (where the Washington outbreak began). It seems that when the nursing home had a sudden and dramatic increase in very sick patients, the staff was overwhelmed. Lake Washington sent 17 student nurses, 1 student physical therapist and 4 faculty to assist. Some of the student nurses were pretty scared by what they saw. My son didn’t know if he had contact with any of the people involved because they hadn’t released any names.

    I immediately called my wife tell her she should terminate her errands and return home.

    Lake Washington was closed for 2 days and before the 2 days were up it was increased to a week and about 2 days later through the end of term.

    Meanwhile, I start totaling all the possible impacts if my son was a carrier. First, he lives in Issaquah so he could spread it there and his housemate works at Trader Joes. On our trip to tend to my mother, he drove and handed paperwork to ferry personnel at the Port Townsend, Coupeville, Anacortes and Friday Harbor terminals and of course would have exposed my mother and brother from Marysville who was there that day. We also stopped at the Safeway in Oak Harbor (Whidbey Island NAS) on the way.

    By the time I told my wife that she should avoid contact with others until we know more she had already visited the Post Office in Quilcene, her dentist in Port Townsend, the PUD in Port Hadlock, the casino in Blyn, the Rite-Aid, Costco, Home Depot and Petco in Sequim.

    I’m thinking “Holy crap! My family could have spread it around half of Washington!”

    Fortunately, not exposed, no risk beyond some new grey hairs, not a family of Typhoid Marys

  37. If it is a Divine plan
    how could lowly humans
    impede it or delay it.

    Gnosticism to the rescue.

    Comedy platinum

  38. There once was a virus from Wuhan,
    Which scared every man, child and woman.
    All enterprise ceased,
    For the virulent beast.
    Will it kill more than seasonal flu can?

  39. This pandemic is scary because there are so many unknowns.
    How contagious is it?
    Can asymptomatic people infect others?
    How long does it live on surfaces and is it different for different surfaces?
    How are most people infected?
    Will the present protocol of social distancing and business shutdowns work?
    How long will the protocol have to be in place?
    Will the economy survive the protocol?
    Will the virus turn out to be seasonal?
    Will we have to go through another protocol in the fall?
    Will this result in a huge Democrat victory in November?
    And much more.

    When fighting a military foe, it’s easier to focus the mind. The outcome isn’t certain, but through dint of effort and ingenuity we can focus our minds on winning. And we are free to band together to do what has to be done. This is so different. An invisible, mysterious enemy. Hiding out and avoiding people is the recommended way to pitch in and do your part. So different, so ……un–American.

    Cabin fever. It’s a well known malady, but one no one thought the average American would be suffering. Fortunately, we have our tech gadgets, books, hobbies, intellectual interests, and more. We can put the worry at the back of our consciousness and shut the anxiety out for a time.

    Here in Washington state we are having some fine weather. My wife and I walk outside when we can. When we can’t get out, we do laps on our stairs to get our hearts pumping. We’re still both able to drive and there is no reason not to take a drive to a scenic area and enjoy the sights of spring that are bursting forth.

    It’s in the back of my mind that this virus may be the thing that brings me down. So, I’m trying to do all the right things that I’m sure all of Neo’s, followers are doing as well. I’m also savoring each day as if it may be my last. Though I’m a creaky, pain-wracked old codger, I still enjoy what life is left in me.
    As in the Desiderata:
    “Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

    Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

    And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.”
    .

  40. I’ve been spending most my time at my favorite watering hole, sipping beer and trying to get work done via my laptop; amazingly, the place hasn’t been shut down– yet. There was, however, a bit of an incident the other day:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tqdOwOxY3s&feature=emb_logo

    And for the stubborn, stupid, unenlightened, desperate & deplorable, there’s this incorrigible literary relic:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+91&version=KJV

  41. Well our family has suffered the first casualty of this implosion. Thankfully not the virus (personally I think I had it mid-January, but that’s another comment), but our daughter was laid off. Eleven years successfully working at a small company. Sadness and disappointment have visited our personal sphere and all because of fear and overreation. Yes I feel that way. And I also feel that if our President (a truly great leader) hadn’t been willing to take the public hit of denunciation by his foes, the media and political adversaries, by suspending travel with China back in January we would look like Italy. Oh well. Very happy that I have an immediate family that loves and supports one another.

  42. Geez, for the Dow to crash though 20,000 and barely rebound upward from 1900. Well, that’s something.

    I’m reading it as a buy signal.

    The tough part IMO is that even if COVID fizzles, we may have done enough real damage to the economy that it will take a few years or more to recover.

  43. Thanks for today’s post Neo- “ a combination of worry about health, economics, and politics; anger at so much of what comes out of the MSM and the left; and cabin fever” pretty much summarizes my feelings at this point. I don’t know about anyone else but reading the comments here, and seeing how many of the commenter’s thoughts and experiences mirror my own has been helpful.

    Every Wednesday evening a group from our church travels to a church in Detroit’s inner city to provide meals to the homeless and street people there. We will still be going tonight, but instead of serving them at tables inside the church, we will be preparing the meals as carry-out and handing them out at the door. I’m grateful that I will have the chance to get out and do something like this tonight.

  44. Thx, JJ Hiding out and avoiding people is the recommended way to pitch in and do your part. So different, so ……un–American.

    Plus National Lampoon’s Deteriorata (’72?):
    Gracefully surrender the things of youth.
    Birds.
    Clean air.
    Tuna.
    Taiwan…

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