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  1. When Bernie talks about Latin America- where he assumes that he is informing the ignoramuses about what is really going on- he usually leaves out inconvenient facts. Consider the recent resignation of President Evo Morales in Bolivia, which Bernie called a “coup.” Evo stepped down because he and his followers got caught at rigging the election in Bolivia. Bernie Sanders, others call it a coup, but never denounced Morales’ election fraud in Bolivia.

    In last year’s first round election, results after about three quarters of the polling places had reported showed that Evo wasn’t going to get enough votes to avoid a second round. After an inexplicable delay in the reporting of election results- like the Iowa caucus?- it was announced that Evo had won – no need for a second round.

    Massive protests erupted in reaction. At the invitation of the Bolivian government and President Evo Morales, the OAS audited the first round, and found out that there was fraud. The OAS also found out that, contrary to Evo’s claim right after the election, Evo had not won the first round.

    Evo stepped down.

    Under Bolivia’s constitution, Morales, who took office in 2006, was allowed to serve only two consecutive terms. But he twisted the laws to stay in power way beyond these term limits.
    In 2016, he held a referendum to let him run for a fourth consecutive term. He lost, but ran anyway.

    Evo got a judge to rule that his “human rights” were violated by not being permitted to serve as many terms as he wanted.

    Then, he rigged the Oct. 20 elections, according to his own government-invited 92-member electoral observation mission from the Organization of American States. A subsequent audit by a separate 30-member OAS team, also invited by the Morales government, corroborated that he had not won the first-round vote, as he claimed.

    The military made it clear that Evo no longer had its support. For some funny reason, the military was uncomfortable with supporting a fraudster. To avoid further violence, suggested the military, Evo should resign. That, to Evo’s supporters, was a coup. Apparently Bernie and other Evo supporters had no problem with fraud.

  2. People in the public sphere are fools if they don’t realize that by being in the public sphere they have left plenty of evidence of who they really are. Our 18 year old cat could beat Sanders in a fair election.

  3. Prudence is a cat of color (brown tabby) and has no agenda other than pets, food, and lots of naps. Perfect VP candidate plus she is sentient when it comes to pets, food, and naps. And she is adorable and photogenic.

  4. Parker’s cat will do better than most politicians in passing the fool’s test.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    As most politicians find it difficult to keep their mouths shut, they have difficulties that Parker’s cat will not have.

    When I walked a neighbor’s dogs, I told acquaintances that as the country was going to the dogs, they should elect the real thing. Write in those dogs.

  5. When I walked a neighbor’s dogs, I told acquaintances that as the country was going to the dogs, they should elect the real thing. Write in those dogs.

    Gringo: Back in 1972 the Firesign Theatre comedy troupe ran a parody presidential campaign for George G. Papoon whose slogan was “Not insane!”

    Good advice for today’s Democrats. Sadly, a bar too high.

    I can’t believe what an incredible job Democrats have done to normalize Trump, while complaining that’s exactly what should not be done.

    I have come to genuine appreciation, even affection, for the Donald. But still, it must be admitted he was a guy comin’ in from the outside. But thanks to Democrats he’s now FDR doing Fireside Chats. Or tweets. Whatever.

  6. “Do you have to be sentient to be a Democrat VP?”

    That question was answered quite definitively during the Obama administration.

  7. huxley – back in 1972, the Democrats managed to distract the public well enough to forget how insane their party was by taking Nixon down with Watergate.
    They are still running the same playbook, for the same reason.

    At the time, I was just as disgusted as others about the WH Plumbers; however, a much more nuanced version of the true events has since come to light, but I did not then and do not now believe that Nixon did anything worse thing than all of our government “servants” are engaged in from time to time (as it appears) .

    I said then, and still believe, that Nixon lost the support of the general Republican public because the tapes revealed him as a pious-in-public, pirate-in-private hypocrite about his religious convictions, rather than for his politically-contrived misdeeds.

    Random link, because it supports my own recollections at the time.
    https://www.friendsjournal.org/richard-nixons-first-cover-up-2/

  8. I too was disgusted by Nixon at the time. However, if you want a different perspective on Watergate than what the media claimed happened, then you might be interested in Geoff Shepard’s book titled, “The Real Watergate Scandal”.
    https://geoffshepard.com/

  9. Check out my comment here for the full argument, but in terms of the impact on America, any Democrat winning is 2020 is a loser for the country, but a big winner for the politicians.

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/02/20/fighting-the-left-content-vs-process/#comment-2481229

    AesopFan on February 22, 2020 at 6:58 pm said:
    “Leftists disguise their desire for power as a desire for justice.”

    Whereas, politicians disguise their desire for money as a desire for helping their constituents.
    An eye-opening essay for anyone still not clued in.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/02/22/legislative-business/

    [big snip]

    President Donald Trump winning the election threw a monkey wrench into the entire DC system…. In early 2017 the modern legislative machine was frozen in place.

    The “America First” policies represented by candidate Donald Trump were not within the legislative constructs coming from the K-Street authors of the legislation. There were no MAGA lobbyists waiting on Trump ideology to advance legislation based on America First objectives.

    As a result of an empty feeder system, in early 2017 congress had no bills to advance because all of the myriad of bills and briefs written were not in line with President Trump policy. There was simply no entity within DC writing legislation that was in-line with President Trump’s America-First’ economic and foreign policy agenda.

    Think about the larger ramifications within that truism. That is also why there was/is so much opposition.

    No legislation provided by outside interests means no work for lobbyists who sell it. No work means no money. No money means no expense accounts. No expenses means politicians paying for their own indulgences etc.
    Politicians were not happy without their indulgences, but the issue was actually bigger. No K-Street expenditures also means no personal benefit; and no opportunity to advance financial benefit from the insider trading system.

    Without the ability to position personal wealth for benefit, why would a politician stay in office? The income of many long-term politicians on both Republican and Democrat sides of the aisle was completely disrupted by President Trump winning the election. That is one of the key reason why so many politicians retired immediately thereafter.

    Lastly, this is why -when signing legislation- President Trump often says “they’ve been trying to get this through for a long time” etc. Most of the legislation passed by congress and signed by President Trump in his first term is older legislative proposals, with little indulgent value, that were shelved in years past.

    The meaning of “indulgent value” refers to the legal wooing of congress by lobbyists for special interests (aka anyone with money to gain or lose by making laws) which is basically bribery taking place in the open, although without a lot of fanfare and spotlights.

    I also greatly fear that almost any Republican winner after the end of Trump’s second term will also condone a return to business as usual, so whatever changes conservatives want accomplished, they only have 5 years left to cement them into the law (as securely as that can possibly be done, and that’s not always very secure).

    Everyone want to go back to quidding those pro quos.

  10. Looks more and more like Bernie will be the nominee.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nevada-caucuses-underway

    Sen. Bernie Sanders will win the Nevada caucuses, Fox News is projecting, furthering the democratic socialist’s lead over his Democratic rivals and raising the question as to whether he can be stopped on his path to the Democratic nomination.

    With six percent of delegates in, Sanders leads with 54.7 percent.

    According to those returns, former Vice President Joe Biden is in second place with 17.9 percent, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., has 9.7 percent, and former South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg has 9 percent and billionaire Tom Steyer has 7.4 percent. Ultimately 36 delegates are at stake.

    However, pushing deeper into the story, the DNC has a LOT of wiggle room built into the process.

    Biden is probably out now. When you’ve lost the New York Times….
    https://www.mrctv.org/blog/biden-claims-he-was-arrested-back-70s-trying-visit-nelson-mandela-no-one-remembers-it

    While the NYT never outright denied that Biden’s account could be true, the lack of any record of his alleged arrest, the fact that he’d failed to mention it ever before, and Young’s denial of the account throw some serious shadows onto a campaign already riddled with strange tales, gaffes, and repeated lapses in memory.

    Although, Bernie’s wins may not do him any good. When you’ve lost Chris Matthews….
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/msnbcs-chris-matthews-speculates-democrats-may-be-better-off-with-trump-over-sanders

    “I’m wondering whether the Democratic moderates want Bernie Sanders to be president,” he said. “That’s maybe too exciting a question to raise. They don’t like Trump at all. Do they want Bernie Sanders to take over the Democratic Party in perpetuity? I mean, he takes it over, he sets the direction of the future of the party — maybe they’d rather wait four years and put in a Democrat that they like.”

    Sounds an awful lot like the NeverTrumpers that preferred putting Hillary in office and waiting four years to put in a Republican that they liked.

    The big difference is amply illustrated by my link to CTH above:
    Congress had plenty of bills ready for Hillary to sign in 2016, and none for Trump.
    If the NTs had won out, the country would never have recovered from the implementation of that legislation. There would never have been another Republican president — liked or not by the NTs — short of civil war.
    If the Democrats wait out another 4 Trump years, those bills will still be in the pipeline.

  11. Ray – thanks; that was one of the books I was thinking about, but couldn’t remember the title.

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