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The Democrats are running the impeachment show, but now a few Republicans get a chance to speak

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I haven’t actually watched the hearings in real time, although every day I check the stories and exchanges that have emerged from them. Most of the focus until recently has been on the testimony of the witnesses and the behavior of the Democrats, especially Adam Schiff-who-must-be-obeyed.

But ever since the hearings have begun to be aired publicly, I’ve noticed that the Republican participants have been uncharacteristically focused and aggressive in their questioning. In particular, Elise Stefanik has been especially impressive (there are several videos worth watching at the link).

Is Trump’s fighting spirit catching? Seems that way.

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The Democrats are running the impeachment show, but now a few Republicans get a chance to speak — 19 Comments

  1. Witnesses in this should be ‘witnesses’ for mostly they are only witness to hearing what others have said, some time 3-5 people down the line… the other part is how to personally interpret something, and claim yours is the only interpretation when there are many possible… (a common issue when i read given the inexactitude of peoples common speech and the ability a broad knowledge can bring to messing it up)

    Is Trump’s fighting spirit catching? Seems that way.

    perhaps, and hopeful that people have compared him to Churchill, and not William Wallace..

  2. I’m so constantly outraged by the kangaroo courts of the Democrats.

    It’s hard to think Dem voters who support these sham hearings really care about being “fair”, or about real “due process”.

    Still, I suspect it makes the Trump supporters more supportive, and is giving the Trump campaign producers lots of raw material for future short spots to highlight the lies of the Dems.

    Yet another Flight 93 election coming up.

    I’m glad “a couple” of Reps seem to be fighting some — I’m disappointed more aren’t more outraged.

  3. It looks to me like impeachment is not catching on, that it has been effectively discounted as a Washington soap opera.

    Meanwhile, the stock market keeps going up and more people are working than ever.

  4. The ‘witnesses’ are witnesses in namely. The orchestration is transparent for those with the wits to see what is going on. I think the fake impeachment is going to harm the eventual democratic candidate. The campaign ads will write themselves.

  5. Apparently the left now has it in for Rep. Stefanik as takedown victim #1. George Conway, for instance, posted a fake photo of Stefanik flipping the bird in Chamber (since deleted but captured prior), saying about her “Elise Stefanik is lying trash. Please give to her opponent, @TedraCobb.”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1195802752649220096 (see link for photoshop)

    Stefanik replied: “The photoshopped picture that the Leftist Twitter mob led by George Conway is circulating is FAKE – I’ve been so busy exposing Adam Schiff’s #regimeofsecrecy that I haven’t had time for a manicure in weeks! ? Proof from yesterday”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/EliseStefanik/status/1195800462169128960 (see link for photo proof)

  7. One long-term impact of Trump which is under appreciated is that with the losses in 2018 and the number of GOP retirements, many of which seem to be Trump-related, a whole bunch of Republicans who’ve been in DC for a long time have and are leaving Congress.

    Even if some of them are replaced by Democrats, the effect on the GOP delegation is to make it Trumpier by default. This is another of those easily foreseeable developments that NeverTrumpers failed to consider.

    Mike

  8. “Is Trump’s fighting spirit catching? Seems that way.” – Neo

    Voters tried over and over again to tell the GOP what they wanted, but the CINOs in Congress were not listening. Now we have some real conservatives in office.
    (and I agree with MBunge about the partisanship impact of Republican retirements, but we have to hold their seats, not give them to the Democrats.)

    Per LI’s post:

    For those of you who go way back with Legal Insurrection, NY-21 was a hot topic here in 2009 when Republican infighting and subterfuge handed the seat to Democrat Bill Owens in a Special Election defeat of conservative candidate Doug Hoffman. It was more important to state Republicans that a Tea Party insurgent lose than that Republicans hold the seat. Owens barely hung on to the seat in 2010 and 2012, but chose not to run for reelection in the 2014 cycle.

    Stefanik won the seat in 2014, at age 30. At the time, the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. Stefanik has won re-election pretty easily every since.

  9. sdferr on November 16, 2019 at 6:55 pm said:
    Apparently the left now has it in for Rep. Stefanik as takedown victim #1. George Conway, for instance, posted a fake photo of Stefanik flipping the bird in Chamber (since deleted but captured prior), saying about her “Elise Stefanik is lying trash. Please give to her opponent, @TedraCobb.”
    * * *
    SOP

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/11/16/victor-davis-hanson-on-the-impeachment-inquiry-coup/#comment-2465603

    Artfldgr on November 16, 2019 at 5:43 pm said:
    Fact check: A list of 45 ways Trump has been dishonest about Ukraine and impeachment
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/16/politics/fact-check-trump-dishonesty-ukraine-and-impeachment/index.html

    19. Schiff “didn’t use one word that I said” in his rendition of the call. (Schiff did add words Trump had never said, but he didn’t make up the whole thing; some of his remarks hewed closely to what Trump said.)

    I’m sure he would say that he didn’t make up her whole hand, and that her fingers hewed closely to what she thought about doing, even if she didn’t actually do it.

  10. Commenters at sdferr’s first link are predominantly leftist; the consensus was more or less “George took down the tweet when he found out it was fake, but after her sham performance yesterday, most people would believe she’s the kind of person that would do that” so he was kinda-sorta justified in posting it.

    A more rational commenter pointed out that an honest person would verify the picture before posting it, not just take it down after the damage was out on the internet forever.

    PS How does Kellyann Conway stay married to that creep? She ought to have some misgivings about his trashy ways, even if she is willing to live with his partisanship.

  11. From the other LI post sdferr linked:

    Stefanik: “My opponent Taxin’ Tedra can have your sick mysogynist support.”

    Rather than apologize for his crude attack on Stefanik, Conway doubled down, countering “Well, now you have [been called ‘trash’].”

    He then, without a hint of irony, calls President Trump “psychologically unstable” for . . . wait for it . . . name-calling.

    Conway: “Well, now you have. You tell lies to defend a psychologically unstable man who calls people “scum” for telling the truth about him. ”

    Stefanik seems to be taking note of the success of Trump’s nicknaming.

  13. It is time to laugh at Mr. Schiff;

    https://youtu.be/1PORzc4wIXk

    AG Barr is correct about his comments about the left and the treatment of Trump via the Democrat establishment. Barr is the best AG that the US has had in long time.

  15. The Stefanik thing reminds me of Andrew McCarthy’s recent post on the impeachment hearings.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/11/breaking-down-the-fallout-from-marie-yovanovitchs-testimony/

    The upshot of it is that McCarthy, who has actually been better than a great many on this stuff, not only criticizes Trump more directly and harshly than anyone else but plainly states this whole impeachment effort is about nothing more than hurting Trump’s re-election chances AND THEN ESSENTIALLY SHRUGS HIS SHOULDERS AT THAT.

    Using an impeachment as nothing more than a negative campaign ad is a grosser violation of established U.S. political norms than ANYTHING Donald Trump has ever done, yet McCarthy is completely undisturbed by it.

    The connection to the Stefanik stuff is that stopping or correcting bad behavior sometimes requires extreme action that can be as bad or worse than the behavior itself. Sometimes that bully tormenting you will not stop until you physically beat the snot out of him. McCarthy and a good chunk of the conservative intellectual establishment will never do that. No matter how bad the behavior of the Democrats and the media becomes, they will never raise that metaphorical fist and strike back and so that behavior will not only continue but get worse and worse and worse.

    Mike

  17. MBunge,

    That McCarthy column was weak. I’ve not been quite the fan of his that others have. After the whole collusion thing that he wrote a book about you would think he would be way more skeptical and outraged at this thing but instead he just shrugs as you say.

  18. How does Kellyann Conway stay married to that creep? She ought to have some misgivings about his trashy ways, even if she is willing to live with his partisanship. [AesopFan]

    I think that marriage is history. If Kellyanne doesn’t see Stefanik as a stand-in for Kellyanne on this business, she is not one-quarter as smart as she is in every other context. Kellyanne answered those jejune Wolf Blitzer questions involving George the other day, and very well — but I looked at this fake Stefanik photo and the comments and thought, Okaaay, that’s it.

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