Disparate-impact theory: school discipline and race
Here’s a discussion in National Review about a report recently issued by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. It’s entitled “Beyond Suspensions: Examining School Discipline Policies and Connections to the School-to-Prison Pipeline for Students of Color with Disabilities.”
Although this might conjure up an image of a bunch of black students who have some sort of marked physical disability ending up in prison, that’s not what we’re talking about here.
The entire report is an example of the application of disparate-impact theory (see this for an explanation of what that is), and it uses the word “disabilities” in a way that’s technically correct but misleading to the lay reader.
Here’s an excerpt from the National Review article:
It’s undisputed that black students, as a group, are disciplined more than white students. For the commission majority, this is evidence of racially disparate treatment, as it’s an article of faith that discipline disparities aren’t due to disparities in behavior. As Gail Heriot and I point out in our separate dissents, there’s, to put it mildly, very little evidence that this is the case…
The Commission majority also is concerned that children of color with disabilities are punished more often than children without disabilities. When the majority refers to “disabilities,” they’re not referring, by and large, to children who are, e.g., deaf or in wheelchairs. “Disability” includes “emotional disturbance,” which essentially means “bad behavior for which there is not another clinical diagnosis.” Unsurprisingly, when “disability” is defined to mean “bad behavior,” “children with disabilities” are more likely to be disciplined.
The trouble with the Commission’s approach is that when you decree, in the face of all evidence to the contrary (including the testimony of their own parents), that children of all racial groups misbehave at exactly the same rates, the only way to get discipline rates to be the same is to artificially depress them. Accordingly, misbehaving students aren’t suspended or expelled, they’re invited to take part in “restorative practices” and “positive behavioral interventions and supports.” When you don’t suspend or expel misbehaving students, schools descend into chaos.
The following describes what happened to teachers in schools in Minnesota, for example, as a result of Obama-era directives:
They have lost their authority to control the classroom. They’re told they’ll be coached what to say, with whom, about classroom and school disruptive behavior. They’re told to shred, delete computer documents showing student violence that does not support the administrative agenda.
They’re directed to tolerate students who disrupt by screaming, swearing, tormenting, bullying, hitting, kicking, using pencils and scissors to stab other classmates. They use laptops, desks, and chairs as weapons. And these all go unreported.
I used the term “Obama-era directives,” but this report is new, and it supports the methods used in those directives.
Our children are being sacrificed on the altar of a politically-correct fiction that fails to adequately confront some very real problems. And by “children” I mean children of all races, those who misbehave as well as those who don’t.
What we need are more local groups (churches, etc) that teach people about parenting. Kids learn to control their behavior at an early age, and people need to learn how to do this. Kids learn it best from parents– not in schools. Just as they learn how to eat from home–not in cafeterias at school. How many boys join up with gangs etc because they don’t have a family that provides them with support for acting right.
It’s remarkable to find no mention of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School mass murderer, who skated through many troubling encounters with school discipline (as well as police) on the strength of rationalizations based precisely upon this vicious racialist theorizing. Could a more serious proof of the absurdity of this dreck be available? It’s doubtful.
Griggs v. Duke Power, the foundation of the whole rotten edifice of “disparate impact” theory, remains one of the worst decisions of SCOTUS ever. There exists massive evidence that black students are far more likely to be disruptive and violent in school than others, hence the need for more disciplinary action. It seems as though no leftist has ever read the brilliant Heather Mac Donald or is capable of understanding the “disparity fallacy.”
My guess is that two things will happen:
1) More American teachers will get beaten up and quit
2) More teachers will be brought in through the J1 Visa program where there is a shortage of teachers (FOR LESS PAY).
https://j1visa.state.gov/programs/teacher/
So dear Americans, what have we wrought with our kindness. More pain, misery and unhappiness.
This sort of thing makes me think of the incident in Waugh’s Decline and Fall in which the progressives in charge of a prison decide that a certain lunatic murderer might be rehabilitated by an activity, woodworking or something, that requires the use of sharp tools….
who cares, its all jews, i mean white males…
you know, like the one they jumped in washington yesterday and beat up
you know, like the one who had a traffic accident in Chicago, was beaten to death
oh heck..
just invest in ovens…
Teachers Union Will Promote Concept Of ‘White Fragility’
NEA: ‘White supremacy culture has fashioned a social norm
probably you can blame it all on the target group not having babies,and losing their power necessitating the dems to ingratiate themselves to the next set of people who have not democided themselves.
if they dont care enough to have babies to live / why should we?
America’s largest teachers union has resolved to incorporate the concept of “white fragility” into its staff training and development programs, literature, and “other existing communications on social, gender, LGBTQIA, and racial justice,” to the extent that existing budgets and context permit.
The NEA offered this rationale for the action: “White supremacy culture has fashioned a social norm insulating white people from the impact of racial stress, which consequentially constructs a social atmosphere that depresses the ability of society, in general, to tolerate racial stress, also known as ‘White Fragility.’”
Now is the summer of our discontent… eh?
at what point will the people being called monsters, become monsters (or die out)?
Shock Video: DC Tourist Savagely Beaten, Stomped, Spit on by Gang of Youths at Hilton Hotel Where Reagan Was Shot
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/shock-video-dc-tourist-savagely-beaten-stomped-spit-on-by-gang-of-youths-at-hilton-hotel-where-reagan-was-shot/
and
Shocking moment a gang of 14 teenage boys and girls brutally beat and kick a tourist outside a famed hotel in Washington, DC
warning… may be desturbing..
but not enough for the news to cover it as a problem
in fact, i can collect over 100 group attacks (and when crime is discussed its one on one, they ignore the many on one as that is even WORSE than one on one)
in the deep south, a person who defended a black from the democrats was said to share the same fate for being a “lover”. the west saved the target last century, according to this logic, they deserve the same fate… and once removed, who on this planet would stand up for isreal?
US fertility rate falls to ‘all-time low,’ CDC says
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/24/health/fertility-rate-births-2018-cdc-study/index.html
Berkley mourns former H.S. athlete beaten to death after car crash in Detroit
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2019/07/25/berkley-mourns-tyler-wingate/1820364001/
Have to go to the UK to find this out:
Shocking video shows the moment a vicous gang kick and punch a California couple in their own driveway after being asked to leave
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7286671/California-couple-attacked-driveway.html
Footage shows the moment a California couple were attacked in their driveway
and the only class that is attacked by both sides and is mostly defenseless are the disabled…
THIS just came out
Brazen Attacks Caught On Camera Around Baltimore, Another Family Carjacked | EXCLUSIVE
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2019/07/25/brazen-attacks-caught-on-camera-around-baltimore-another-family-carjacked-exclusive/
Exclusive video shows the attack on a civilian employee of the Baltimore City Police Department, who was stomped on the head by a group of teens riding Lime scooters. The suspects continue to remain at large.
These videos are really disturbing but we wanted to show them to you so that someone out there can help solve this crime. It also shows the brutality. This employee gets kicked in the head, again and again.
This is not the only BPD employee who’s fallen victim to the brazen recent violence. Two men robbed Deputy Commissioner Daniel Murphy and his wife by gunpoint Friday near Patterson Park.
“It appears they have no fear, whatsoever, they have no fear of who sees what they do,” another woman said.
The carjacking happened Tuesday, the same day a woman with a 5-month-old son was pistol-whipped and robbed in Federal Hill and also the same day a 59-year-old woman was carjacked in a similar way in Guilford
Teachers vote Democrat- I would estimate 70% D/30% R. Yet the “disparate impact” people are informing us that teachers are racists.
The St. Paul Minnesota schools turned into a war zone as a result of “disparate impact” discipline. Valeria Silva, the superintendent who pushed those policies, was fired, with a $797,000 buyout. Nice work if you can get it.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/no-thug-left-behind-14951.html
What Obama forced on schools is not new. In the 80’s, I knew a teacher in the Seattle School District. She said the school district had let teachers know that, if the infractions were “minor”, they would received no support from the district if they tried to discipline a non-white student.
Below they do where i work and have been… and if they cant fire you, they basically make you miserable, no raises, no promotions, no career plan, and tough tootsies…
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The college town of Champaign, Illinois would enhance its diversity by placing a Muslim known for his extreme hatred of Jews on an antidiscrimination commission:
When Deb Feinen, the mayor of Champaign, Illinois, suddenly and unexpectedly decided to replace one of the members of her city’s Human Relations Commission, she cited the importance of “diversity” as the reason. Out went Kenton Elmore, an unquestionably white Commission member; in came Ahmed Taha, an Egyptian immigrant and a prominent figure in the city’s Muslim community.
In 2013, Taha republished a photo on his Facebook page, ostensibly of a brutally killed Egyptian teenage boy, which was accompanied by the text: “O Muslim, O servant of God. There is a Jew behind me, come kill him.”
In March 2014, Taha shared a conspiracy theory by a far-right website claiming that the president of Egypt, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, was secretly Jewish. “Is that true?” Taha asked, “If yes, this is a castastroph [sic].” In October that year, he then posted a video supposedly exposing Joe Biden as a “Zionist” and revealing the “Rothschild Zionism Secret Regime in America.”
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[i guess if one group dont have babies, cause the group is a modern feminist society, you have to import replacements… too bad this process included making sure that to defend yourself is to be a white supremacist Nazi at minimum… why? well, i told you… the oppressed have a right to class hatred against their oppressors (so said famous feminists)… they also point out if you read the way this works, that the oppressor class has no right to self defense and perpetuating their oppression!!!!!!!! They do write interesting things, but ignored till the results are permanent and irreversible enough to be noticed. ie. too late ]
Artflgererer writes,
And then from the link the brother speaks up.
and …
You murdered my brother and I want you to know how much pain you have caused us and “the community”. Now friends, let’s focus on cheery things and celebrate his happy bouncy life …
… are these effen people for real? If so, no wonder they are hunted down like sheep. Lay on the ground and tell that retarded psychopath just how much pain it is causing you. Yes, that will do the trick.
Yeah, they are from Berkley, Michigan
All this is from the movement…
The U.S. Teaching Population Is Getting Bigger, and More Female
Women now make up a larger share of educators than they have in decades.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/02/the-explosion-of-women-teachers/582622/
The professional journal for educators
Phi Delta Kappan
The makings of feminist schools across the globe
they just be following the plans…
not that anyone cares to read them or pay attention before this stuff is embedded, normalized, is precedence set, and done…
funny to read posts above about we have to do this, or that, or this…
really? no… its done… its in place and part of a national curriculum..
you have no say… back when it was beginning and it was crazy to pay attention
that was when you had your say, and could oppose, or participate if not
now? this is diktat… your stuck with it, you cant even talk about it
and we are way into the media filtering things too long or not right
not for any censorship of course they will explain, they always do, and say the same thing
but there is no we, or changing this…
there isnt even a po box you can write to to find out more
Again, I ask this question of all the professionally sensitive types out there: “Who is obligated, and why are they obligated, to defend those who simply will not stand up for and defend themselves, either through their deliberately cultivated physical or moral weaknesses?”
If you do not think that the preservation of your own life is worth the leveling of violence against an aggressor, why should I step in and do it for you?
Saw this the other day…seems to fit in my mind.
https://accordingtohoyt.com/2019/07/17/homicidal-charity/
Keep telling kids they’re victims of someone’s privilege…that they don’t have to fend for themselves one day & better be equipped to do so…that they don’t have to fit into functional social norms…that you’ll guarantee them $$ for life…do nothing to discourage them breeding rabbits & by all means offer no encouragement to form stable 2-parent families…Why wouldn’t they run riot?
“Our children are being sacrificed on the altar of a politically-correct fiction that fails to adequately confront some very real problems.” neo
How many children must be sacrificed before consequence impacts those willing to sacrifice children upon the altar of political-correctness?
The NEA offered this rationale for the action: “White supremacy culture has fashioned a social norm insulating white people from the impact of racial stress, which consequentially constructs a social atmosphere that depresses the ability of society, in general, to tolerate racial stress, also known as ‘White Fragility.’”
Diversity (i.e. color judgment) and social justice (i.e. appeals to empathy/emotion) are a toxic brew. When perpetrated under the Pro-Choice quasi-religion (e.g. ethics), it has a progressive effect that is a first-order forcing of dysfunctional convergence. #HateLovesAbortion
I have done volunteer work with my church at a group foster home for about 8 years. We try to reach all the kids of all the races. While there are disruptors of all races there, and good kids of all races there, there is a huge difference on average between the classroom disruptiveness of the blacks and the white kids. Huge! As one of my co workers said diplomatically one time to the other volunteers in the parking lot after a frustrating and frequently disrupted lesson “…cultural differences….”
I said all races…I dont think I have yet seen an Asian kid in there. About an equal mix of white, hispanic and black. Maybe closer to 40% black. Most of the daily staff is black and they are way underpaid. We need more churches and synagogues to get into the foster home system and run them well and properly pay the workers…
I knew this was coming more than fifty years ago, when I met my wife’s sorority sisters. Education majors, most of them, and simpering bleeding-heart liberals, the lot of them. At the time I said, “When those people take over the schools, we’re doomed.”
If the NEA and the AFT had any sense of shame, they would have committed seppuku long ago. And the worst, the absolute worst, is that the NAACP joined with the teacher’s unions and against their own constituency and came out against charter schools.
jb brings up some interesting anecdotal evidence. At the risk of being “racist” I’ll bring up some also. I volunteer at a museum. Just this past weekend for a special event our attendance was up with a large number of kids. We had white middle class kids, asian middle class, Asian Indians, afro-americans. The most disruptive kids were the afro-american kids; specifically the boys between 8 to 12 years old. However, there’s a caveat here: those boys were accompanied by just their mother. The afro-american kids that were in an obviously two parent situation were just as well-behaved as any others that day. A microcosm of the the larger societal issue. All of us volunteers noticed. We didn’t say anything but exchanged those meaningful looks.
The analogy that comes to mind in these situations is the “penny in the fusebox.” Back when fuses played the role now usually played by circuit breakers, certain idiots would respond to a blown fuse by putting a penny in the fusebox, thereby keeping their toasters toasting, but possibly burning their houses down.
Ignoring disruptive behavior in school has a similar effect…for the student, the school, and the larger society.
Here’s an economic analysis of how disruptive students impact the future earnings of their classmates:
https://www.nber.org/digest/may16/w22042.html
Very few who have taught in a majority-black school will believe that racism is behind black students being disciplined at a higher rate. Greater misbehavior is behind the greater disciplinary rates. In my time in the classroom, I never met a black administrator or teacher who believed that racism was the cause of black students’ higher disciplinary rates.
That being said, following are two anecdotes from my time teaching at such a school. An assistant principal discovered that several of my misbehaving students did not live within the school’s boundaries. Yes, they misbehaved in other classes.The district permitted students to attend any non-magnet school in the district, as long as there were openings in the school. Those misbehaving students chose to leave their home schools to attend the school where I taught. As my school had a bad reputation, the students correctly perceived that they would be more likely to get away with misbehaving at the school where I taught. Until they were caught and had to return to their home schools. Removing several misbehaving students can have a great positive effect on overall classroom behavior.
In the spring, the 8th grade had a field trip to a local manufacturing facility. All the students behaved well during the trip. When we ate at a local McDonald’s, an elderly white lady complimented the good behavior of our students. On the return trip back to the school, the students got rowdier the closer we got to the school. Conclusion: the students knew how to behave. BTW, the students didn’t get any warnings or exhortations to behave before they trip.
There was a research paper in 2014 that investigated the racial gap in school school suspensions. It found out that prior behavior was the cause.Prior problem behavior accounts for the racial gap in school suspensions.
As far as I can tell, wherever the “disparate impact” school of discipline has had its way, there hasn’t been success. St. Paul schools is definitely a failure.
Concealed carry laws are one approach that works.
In Chicago
In Texas.
Not appropriate in school of course.
Richard Saunders on July 26, 2019 at 1:14 am said:
And the innocent kids whose educations are disrupted, whose persons are molested, whose future prospects are sabotaged because their experience of chaos and assault are the price the self-congratulating sensitives of the world are willing to pay? Well, you know omelets and eggs, and community and all that.
Modern liberals just don’t have the same personal and moral boundaries as normal and healthy people. Some pathological emotional neediness drives them to accept being a victim, or more conveniently to blithely sacrifice others as victims, rather than stand up and declare “this far, and no further”. An example of goddamned weaklings in positions of “authority” getting OTHER people killed or molested.
An example of goddamned weaklings in positions of “authority” getting OTHER people killed or molested.
Like so: https://mobile.twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1154410492938661889
Treat two groups of people differently and expect them them to behave the same. Brilliant!
My friend who taught in private schools here in Los Angeles for 26 years went back to college 2 years ago to complete her credential. She lasted 3 months with the L.A.U.S.D. at a school in the inner city. The stories she told me exceeded the horrors I’ve personally heard from missionaries to 3rd world countries. Another young teacher, told her she was quitting and going to get a job at Costco. The biggest things being pushed was LGBTQ. The finality of her job centered on a requirement that she sign a report wherein she was blamed for an incident when a student picked up a scissor off her desk (she was an art teacher for middle schoolers) and she talked him down and successfully handled the situation and wrote up a report about the encounter. Prior to that when she brought to the attention of the administrators that she was receiving pornographic notes left on her desk, she was asked what she might be doing to solicit that kind of behavior. Damaged, broken and expensive….the L.A.U.S.D.
I have a vivid memory of being in my high school government class (1977) and 2 black girls walking in 15 minutes after class began, chatting it up, taking their time finding their seat, all while the teacher is conducting class. Were they disciplined, warned, admonished? No, because a new school policy had just been enacted that the black students had a different understanding of schedules and time and couldn’t be expected to honor a bell designating the beginning and end of class. Granada Hills High School, L.A.U.S.D.
Sharon – “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.”
And the Gods of the Copy-Book Headings are color-blind.
These findings highlight the importance of early problem behaviors and suggest that the use of suspensions by teachers and administrators may not have been as racially biased as some scholars have argued.
Diversity breeds adversity, and, with progress, children left behind.
Treat two groups of people differently and expect them them to behave the same. Brilliant!
No labels, no judgment, only political congruence (“=”) or selective exclusion, a Pro-Choice doctrine.
I have mixed feelings about this (familiar) news. But I am hopeful that the establishment will finally totally destroy the public education system and we can be done with it.
One of the most depressing, disgraceful, disgusting things in modern America that I’ve ever read about, I swear.
But an excellent posting by Neo and comments by the commentariat, for sure.
Extra thanks to John Guilfoyle for the link to Sarah Hoyt’s piece — one of her best, say I.
And artfl rarely fails to disappoint. Shucks, artfl, next time you’ll have to try harder. *grin*
Too many to list everyone by name….