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It’s Groundhog Day. Again. — 21 Comments

  1. I saw some mention of the groundhog today and your series was the first thing that came to mind. I believe a link to one of your pieces on this at Instapundit several years ago was what first brought me here.

  2. From Neo’s past post:
    “I’ll let author Milan Kundera take over on the subject now, since he was actually my inspiration in the first place (from The Book of Laughter and Forgetting). Here he is describing his musicologist father who, during the last ten years of his life, had lost the ability to speak:”

    I don’t know anything about this website, but it claims to have a free PDF of Kundera’s book.

    https://epdf.tips/the-book-of-laughter-and-forgetting.html

  3. David’s comment from that old post seems relevant to the discussion of the film.

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2006/06/14/theme-and-variations-vs-symphony-on/#comment-17208

    David on June 15, 2006 at 10:37 am at 10:37 am said:
    Reminded me of this passage from Chesterton:

    “The man who lives in a small community lives in a much larger world. He knows much more of the fierce varieties and uncompromising divergences of men. The reason is obvious. In a large community we can choose our companions. In a small community our companions are chosen for us. Thus in all extensive and highly civilized societies groups come into existence founded upon what is called sympathy, and shut out the real world more sharply than the gates of a monastery. There is nothing really narrow about the clan; the thing that is really narrow is the clique….The men of the clique live together because they have the same kind of soul, and their narrowness is a narrowness of spiritual coherence and contentment like that which exists in hell”

  4. The Bible tells us that we are created in God’s image. God is love. We, being only human, have to learn to love like him. Christ loved his disciples, even as he learned more about them — their weaknesses, their foibles, their tempers. One of the great adventures of life, is learning to love — those near and dear to us, those whom we meet, whom we must accept or try to accept in some fashion; those unlovely and unlovable who are thrust upon us; those in whom familiarity has bred contempt. I am a Christian, and even though I try to live with the help of the Holy Spirit, I fail and fail again in this adventure. God, it’s hard! But if you can see the “greater scheme of things” it’s a wonderful way to make the journey, whether your believe in God or not. Sometimes — in some brush with another person — all you get is pain and disappointment despite your effort, but sometimes you get a glimpse of the power of love. And those glimpses are something to savor.

  5. Bill Murray and Harold Ramis — previously friends — had a hard falling out over this film.

    Murray wanted less comedy and more love; Ramis went the other way.

  6. We have pizza and open the dvd box every February 2nd evening. Ground Hog Day withstands the test of time.

  7. It’s a well-made movie from a well-written screenplay, nothing more.
    Trying to derive eternal truths from fiction is fraught with hazard. But that’s where we are today and have long been. Hitler recognized the importance of film. As did Gramsci.
    But all this stuff is only entertainment!
    So be entertained.
    I prefer to read.

  8. Bill Murray doesn’t get solemn about it, but he has starred in three movies about personal transformation — “The Razor’s Edge,” “Groundhog Day,” and “Scrooged.” I tend to believe the theme is close to his heart.

    For some years now he has leveraged his celebrity into odd, part-Zen, part-Dada interactions with strangers that have been collected into a website, “Bill Murray Stories” and a documentary, “No One Will Ever Believe You.”

    https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/10-amazing-bill-murray-stories-that-prove-hes-a-total-legend-4082

    https://www.billmurraystory.com

  9. I remember watching the movie when it first came out–I was excited that it was supposed to be set in Western PA and got irritated when it shows the news team heading out of downtown Pittsburgh, bound for Punxatawney, but traveling eastward (instead of going north). Anyway, when it was over I was stunned because it was about the meaning of life! My friends all thought I was a bit screwy for saying so, but fortunately the internet eventually showed me that I am not alone in my opinion.

  10. RigelDog,

    Yeah you always have to take a pause when a movie is set in an area you know well. In ‘Sleepless In Seattle’ Tom Hanks goes off in his little kayak on a long and probably dangerous journey from lakes to locks to the Sound and across the major port shipping channel all while somehow Meg Ryan follows him in her car.

  11. Yeah you always have to take a pause when a movie is set in an area you know well.

    Griffin: I rather took offense when they filmed a “Howard the Duck” scene in my San Francisco neighborhood, since the film was supposed to be in Cleveland.

  12. huxley,

    Another one dealing with Seattle is they often film in Vancouver, BC which is cheaper because of various goodies the BC gov’t gives producers but the show/movie is set in Seattle. Vancouver and Seattle have vastly different skylines and it is very obvious to anybody slightly familiar with either.

    In the good ole days Seattle used to have a real inferiority complex (southeast Alaska and all) and this stuff would really tick people off. Now it seems like half the people here have come in the last ten years and have no sense of the history of the area.

  13. RigelDog & Griffin –
    Steve Martin’s “Leap of Faith” supposedly takes place in “Rustwater, Kansas” but was filmed entirely in small Texas towns — one of which is my own hometown.
    People were not highly impressed by the stars as people, although they fawned on them anyway, as, well, stars.
    I was already long gone by then, but heard about it from my folks and friends.

    Sedona AZ was the site for many early Western films that supposedly took place in other locations all over the West. Some of the stories in the museums there are quite funny, about how the directors had to mask either too-prominent landmarks, or modern telephone wires and plane contrails.

  14. Cicero:

    Well, Shakespeare is fiction, but a lot of people have “derived eternal truths” from it. Actually, I wouldn’t use the word “derive.” I’d say “discern eternal truths” or perhaps “recognize eternal truths.”

    Of course, “Groundhog Day” isn’t Shakespeare. But all fiction, if well done, can help us see things that could be considered eternal truths. Fiction is certainly not the only way to get there, but it’s a way that speaks to a lot of people, or can speak to a lot of people. This makes fiction, and “Groundhog Day,” not “only entertainment,” depending on the viewer. To you, it may be mere entertainment. That’s fine. But to an awful lot of people—including a great many clergymen—“Groundhog Day” is a good deal more.

    For some examples, I offer this, this, and this:

    Since its debut a decade ago, the film has become a curious favorite of religious leaders of many faiths, who all see in ”Groundhog Day” a reflection of their own spiritual messages. Curators of the series, polling some 35 critics in the literary, religious and film worlds to suggest films with religious interpretations, found that ”Groundhog Day” came up so many times that there was actually a squabble over who would write about it in the retrospective’s catalog.

    Harold Ramis, the director of the film and one of its writers, said last week that since it came out he has heard from Jesuit priests, rabbis and Buddhists, and that the letters keep coming. ”At first I would get mail saying, ‘Oh, you must be a Christian, because the movie so beautifully expresses Christian belief,’ ” Mr. Ramis said during a conversation on his mobile phone as he was walking the streets of Los Angeles. ”Then rabbis started calling from all over, saying they were preaching the film as their next sermon. And the Buddhists! Well, I knew they loved it, because my mother-in-law has lived in a Buddhist meditation center for 30 years and my wife lived there for 5 years.”

  15. “a great many clergymen” is an allegation worthy of the NYTimes. Clergymen come in all stripes. And we live in a highly secular society.
    And Buddhists- they may be the closest on this film, the Groundhog Day pair achieving some sort of Nirvana. At the least, Murray achieves enlightenment.

  16. “And I submit that love is like that, too. Some people spend a lifetime with one love, one spouse; plumbing the depths of that single human being and what it means to be in an intimate relationship with him/her. Others go from relationship to relationship, never alighting with one person for very long, craving the variety.”

    Andre has a really nice speech about that same thing in “My Dinner with Andre.” I couldn’t find the precise language, but basically he says that the “variety” of a succession of relationships is actually the emotionally safer path because it has such a predictable arc: the chase, the submission, the exhilaration of infatuation, the waning of excitement, the breakup.

    But actually committing to intimacy and the true exploration of the complexities of another person–that’s the adventure that has no map, no pattern, and no end, full of risk and uncertain reward.

    It’s always been my favorite speech in the movie.

  17. If you had told me 40 years ago that we would be having this discussion about a film with Bill Murray, I would have laughed at you and called you nuts.

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