Someone needs to pound some sense into voters. Maybe if we’re lucky, some common sense will infect any Bernie supporters who tune in to laugh.
I’m reading that Dr. Carson is going to endorse Donald Trump.
The good doctor does not appear to understand national politics.
Trump has the wind at his back — ie the MSM — that’s Trump’s strength.
It will whip around and be in his face this Fall.
“I’m reading that Dr. Carson is going to endorse Donald Trump.
The good doctor does not appear to understand national politics.”
I’m a little confused on his endorsement. Then again Carson’s rhetoric is as vague and feel good as Trump so I suppose that’s where the two meet. Plus, my dad mentioned “both were outsiders” so that might it as well.
I also find it odd that he gets petty with Cruz but not with Trump after Trump called him a pedophile. There’s definitely some selective hate and bias on Carson’s part, and for that I have lost a little respect for the man (should’ve pulled out of the race much earlier).
GRA:
I’ve lost a lot of respect for Carson, and it was before this. It was during one of the more recent debates when Carson got sneakily passive-aggressive and effectively said “I’m going to follow Reagan’s rule and not criticize another Republican” and then proceeded to get petty and criticized Cruz even after he’d apologized for the report his workers made about Carson quitting the campaign.
And yet Carson’s completely okay with Trump calling him a psychopath and doubting his religion. IMHO, Carson’s motive in endorsing Trump seems to be (aside from whatever Trump may or may not have promised him) Carson’s rancor at Cruz. And don’t forget that Trump took Carson’s side in that spat and used it against Cruz, who was threatening him in the polls. Apparently Carson didn’t see that as the self-serving strategy by Trump that it almost certainly was.
“There are two Donald Trumps,” Carson told Gibson. “There’s the Donald Trump that you see on television and who gets out in front of big audiences, and there’s the Donald Trump behind the scenes. They’re not the same person.”
“One’s very much and entertainer, and one is actually a thinking individual,” Carson said. “That [second] one is someone you can reason with very easily and who is actually very comfortable talking about issues and recognizing that he doesn’t have all the answers. It’s a very different one – it’s a night and day difference.”
So Carson thinks he knows the real Donald Trump, the one who would govern—even though Trump has chosen to be purposefully two-faced and not shown that face to the public. And the reason Trump is being hypocritical and deceptive with the people whose votes and trust he’s trying to win? Entertainment.
What an astounding recommendation.
Donald just basically said parents can wait to buy their kid’s diapers while we’re building the factories here in America that will make them. Because the kid can hold it while we wait or go ahead and get potty trained. How do you not see his genius?
Yeah, it’s just as well Carson didn’t take off. Feel badly for the people that sent him their hard earned money.
Trump is going to make good deals. We don’t need no stinking details, unbelievers.
Carson is a brilliant, highly skilled surgeon. He is also a vain fool. Whatever promises he may have received from Trump have an expiration date.
excellent closing statement from cruz. America is a great country because the son of a bartender, the son of a mailman, the son of a dishwasher, and the son of a successful business man can stand on this stage….
took a second for the audience to get it.
After watching that debate, there’s no way Rubio’s leaving the race before the 15th. Whether he leaves after the 15th depends on how Florida turns out.
I realize that it is not popular to say this here, but I thought Trump did well in this debate. He showed the most improvement in the debate.
1. He didn’t back down on Islam and brought up the abominable way women are treated in mainstream Islamic countries which are supposed to be the real Muslims.
2. His ideas on trade made sense – insist that our products are treated the same in our trade partner’s countries as theirs are treated in our country.
Cruz had a strong performance as usual and should become a strong contender when Rubio and possibly Kasich drop out.
Rubio and Kasich both did OK considering their probability of winning is zilch.
I think Trump has dangled the VP slot.
I’m beginning to think about the Ted Stevens precedent.
A sitting US Senator is indicted in federal court, runs for re-election, is convicted and almost wins.
Hillary could be indicted and still win the election before any trial. Once she wins, she pardons herself. The president’s pardon power is unconditional.
Why not the above? Who stops her?
Started streaming less than 1 hour ago UPDATE: Initial reports are that Dr. Ben Carson will endorse Mr. Trump at this event. Friday, March 11, 2016: GOP Presidential front-runner Donald Trump will hold a press conference at the Mar-A-Lago Club in Palm Beach, FL. It is believed that he will be joined by retired neurosurgeon and former Presidential candidate Ben Carson.
teaser:
“The key task now, to … paraphrase Karl Marx, is less to understand Trump than to stop him.” — William Kristol, editor of the rabidly anti-Trump Weekly Standard
I had to miss 90 minutes of the debate to attend a meeting. The snippets I saw showed Cruz (who is my candidate) doing a very good job. Several commenters above agree with that.
The Washington Times reported after the debate that Rubio and Trump were the big winners and Cruz and Kasich the big losers. How did I get it so wrong?
And lastly, just in case you guys memory has failed (as it has)…
Ted Cruz’s choice of Elliot Abrams to help craft his foreign policy is disappointing. Like his colleagues on Cruz’s council, Abrams is a leader in the neocon world, and he is a leader of what is perhaps the most powerful and pernicious group in the neocon network: the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
and then, to wake people up to the past they seem to forget…
On February 10, 1986, Owen (“TC”) wrote North (this time as “BG,” for “Blood and Guts”) regarding a plane being used to carry “humanitarian aid” to the contras that was previously used to transport drugs The plane belongs to the Miami-based company Vortex, which is run by Michael Palmer, one of the largest marijuana traffickers in the United States. Despite Palmer’s long history of drug smuggling, which would soon lead to a Michigan indictment on drug charges, Palmer receives over $300,000 from the Nicaraguan Humanitarian Aid Office (NHAO) — an office overseen by Oliver North, Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs Elliott Abrams, and CIA officer Alan Fiers — to ferry supplies to the contras.
yes.. one of Cruz main men were somewhat helpfully responsible for creatingthe huge cocaine trade in the US, the crisis that later became the Crack epidemic
Crack epidemic
Beginning with the Iran—Contra affair, some politicians and journalists began arguing that the CIA contributed to the rise of the epidemic. Allegations ranged from the presence of drug ties to the Contra rebels, to possible direct involvement in drug trafficking by the Contras and even members of the CIA. The exact degree of awareness and involvement on the part of the CIA itself continues to be disputed. However, on April 17, 1986, the Reagan Administration released a three-page report admitting that there were some Contra-cocaine connections in 1984 and 1985, arguing that these connections occurred at a time when the rebels were “particularly hard pressed for financial support” because U.S. aid had been cut off
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by a group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment.
Indictments Elliott Abrams, Assistant Secretary of State, convicted of withholding evidence, but after a plea bargain was given only two years probation. Later pardoned by President George H. W. Bush.
i will not vote for a candidate that gives such people a job, and makes them key players while claiming to be constituational and not elite… ie. how does a man help create a crack cocaine crisis that murders millions to fund govt overthrow of other regimes by murdering americans for the cash, and not go to jail because another elite pardons him of the crime…
or to quote ayers:
Guilty as hell, free as a bird…
you can vote for him, and you can think that he is what you want, but people with ANY integrity would not associate with such a person, let alone have at least half a dozen criminals on their campaign inner circle with most of them violating the constitution or the trust of the american people in favor of the oligharchs
sorry a close bold/strong was missed… 🙁
Dennis says, …I thought Trump did well in this debate.
If by well you mean he didn’t talk about his penis, insult one of his rivals with ad hominem drivel, or boast about how rich he is, then yes. Otherwise he showed his lack of knowledge in foreign affairs and a complete misunderstanding of what makes a totalitarian dictatorship. On the question of recognition of Cuba he never gave a clear answer after repeating being pressed on it. He thinks it’s fine but he would somehow get a better deal, whatever the hell that means. The man is a demented joke.
In 1985, 5.7 million people were cocaine abusers, but by 2000, this figure had dropped to 1.2 million. About one in five of these were crack cocaine users (265,000). By 2006, the number of crack cocaine users hit 702,000, the highest number so far.
In these same years, methamphetamine and Ecstasy use were growing, and now the current elites have an open border in which mexico supplies crack, cocaine, meth, ecstasy, GHB, and more…
and you want to know which bank did some of the biggest stuff not just the real estate crash and other things, but also drug laundering and paying off judges, and having their people marry politiicans, and on and on
anyone remember: Carmen Segarra????
she was the Goldman Sachs whistleblower that recorded their malfeasance. Bank Lords have been buying off judges and regulators after already buying off cops (JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon “Gifts” Largest Donation Ever to NYPD of $4.6MM). When Fed regulators asked Segarra to alter minutes of meetings in which Goldman Sachs bankers’ immoral behavior was discussed in order to cover up the truth and to lie about the content of these meetings, Segarra decided to secretly record her meetings with her bosses.
In one meeting Segarra attended, a Goldman employee expressed the view that “once clients are wealthy enough, certain consumer laws don’t apply to them.”
So now that we know that Bank Lords buy out morally-challenged regulators, cops and judges in return for carte-blanche to continue committing crimes, rig markets to collect undeserved and unearned kickbacks, and launder drug cartel money from violent cartels that murder 10,000 people a year (the Sinaloa drug cartel), is there really even a line in the sand that separates Bank Lords and Drug Lords, or have Bank Lords become the new Drug Lords?
[without the open border, they would not have as much money to launder… who cares about the immigrants.. imbedded in the flow is the movement of drugs. and the elites want you to think about these poor people, and not the drugs that are also coming over hidden in the crowd of illegals!!!!!!!!!!!]
when the Bank CEOs know that there is zero risk of going to jail, even after they are caught, or of suffering any negative repercussions from continuing to bathe in blood money, they will never cease engaging in the types of crimes that drags the world further into darkness. And even if Nanex’s Eric Scott Hunsader did say tongue-in-cheek that he would “put everything he had in Goldman Sachs because these guys can do whatever they want”
how much of cruz campaign money is sources in the south american drug lords since he has been accepting Goldman Sachs money for his prior elections (which he refuses to show) and currently given the who’s who list of people on his team and THEIR connections to this large money trade
In the United States, five banks control half the economy: JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, and Goldman Sachs Group collectively held $8.5 trillion in assets at the end of 2011, which equals roughly 56% of the U.S. economy.
This data was according to central bankers at the Federal Reserve. In 2007, the assets of the largest banks amounted to 43% of the U.S. economy. Thus, the crisis has made the banks bigger and more powerful than ever.
Because the government invoked “too big to fail,” meaning that the big banks will be saved because they are very important, the big banks have incentive to make continued and bigger risks, because they will be bailed out in the end. Essentially, it’s an insurance policy for criminal risk-taking behaviour.
The former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis stated, “Market participants believe that nothing has changed, that too-big-to-fail is fully intact.” Remember, “market” means the banking cartel (or “super-entity” if you prefer). Thus, they build new bubbles and buy government bonds (sovereign debt), making the global financial system increasingly insecure and at risk of a larger collapse than took place in 2008
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Banks like JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs engaged in bribery, fraud, and conspiracies which resulted in the bankruptcy of counties all across the United States.[22] Still, they continue to be ‘respected’ by the political class which refuses to punish them for their criminal activity, and instead, rewards them with bailouts and follows their instructions for policy.
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This followed roughly one week after a group of 15 major global bank CEOs sent a letter to President Obama and the U.S. Congress lecturing the U.S. political class on “moral authority,” giving their formal orders to the U.S. political establishment, that regardless of Democratic or Republican administrations, they are losing patience with the democratic apparatus of the state, and warned: “The solvency, productive capacity, and stability of the United States, as well as its moral authority as a global leader, require that its fiscal challenges be credibly met.”
Among the signatories to the letter were the CEOs of Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley and Wells Fargo.
The Wall Street Journal, reporting on this letter, commented that even for “a dying democracy, it’s embarrassing enough to see bankers telling our government what to do,” but in this letter, “we even see foreign bankers telling our government what to do,” as other CEOs of the global cartel signed the letter, from banks such as UBS, Credit Suisse, and Deutsche Bank.
The “consequences of inaction” on the U.S. debt, read the letter, “would be very grave.” In other words, the U.S. political class has received a threat from the global cartel that it is now time to implement austerity and adjustment measures, or to face the consequences of financial terrorism
so now big banks get billions in loans straight from the fed to invest and play games and make money and for ZERO interest… (and in europe they are paid to take the money with a negative rate)…
This is a theme I’ve posted on — going back months.
The give-away: the thin Democrat bench.
ArtfldgrsGhost. Really? I mean REALLY!!!??? You are an odious internet troll who spends their entire life trying to connect “dots” that aren’t even there. Your insinuations that ted Cruz is somehow a puppet for the drug cartels or Goldman Sachs is insane and if you did believe that, then why on Earth would you then support Donald J. Trump who is the embodiment of crony capitalism and corporate malfeasance?
A new thought occurred to me today regarding the establishment:
They may encourage Kasich and Rubio to stay in because *neither* Trump nor Cruz are acceptable to them. I don’t see how that works out in the end for the GOPe, though.
My default position is still that Rubio and Kasich are driven by personal motives, rather than external control.
I had to work and so watched the debate later, but I’m wondering if anyone else thinks that Trump saying “strong doesn’t mean good” is a potential gold mine clip for an ad?
A number of Trump supporters are (I suspect) picking him from a belief in him as a “strongman” who will be “good” for them. But in his own words, strong doesn’t mean good.
So take that clip and mix it with clips from supporters calling him strong and facts about the bad “strong” that Trump admires to highlight that Trump would himself be a “bad” strongman, perhaps? Just a thought…
Don’t forget that Cruz is also responsible for the AIDS epidemic. No doubt that he’s probably involved in the trafficking of underage children for unspeakable purposes, too.
Artfldgrs:
“…he has been accepting Goldman Sachs money for his prior elections (which he refuses to show)…”
You are a perfect example of Reagan’s famous quote, “It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”
Cruz has only been in one prior election. It was subject to all the donor reporting requirements everyone else is. His donations are on the Open Secrets website and elsewhere. He must be a real dummy at being secretive.
Of course, you’ll now bring up the loans from Citibank and Goldman Sach’s, which were personal loans collateralized by his own assets, which anyone with great credit can get, the proceeds of which he lent to his campaign. I’ve seen reports from experts on campaign finance law who say this is a common mistake on FEC filings regarding personal loans.
He has reported them on every other report he filed of his personal liabilities.
But nothing ever will satisfy an Alinsky activist like you, not even if he allowed you personally to audit his whole life. It’s all part of Rule #13 “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Never allow that your target has any redeeming qualities whatsoever, like being a good citizen or a good father. He must only be portrayed as the embodiment of total evil.
You’ve even combined it with the “Gish Gallop” (look it up) where you throw out as much garbage all at once, no matter how nebulous, specious or conspiracy tin foil hat crap. Inundate the reader with so much verbiage that their eyes glaze over. Then claim it’s all meticulously researched, all from unbiased sources.
Riddle me this. Have you devoted 1% of the time to research Trump and his extremely numerous flaws, falsehoods, contradictions and thuggery as you have on Cruz? No? What a coincidence. Yet you’re certain he is the answer.
Your volume of repetitious dirt-dishing here on everyone not-Trump is often the bulk of every comment section. Why don’t you set up your own blog where like thinkers can gather? A couple of links on Breitbart and you’ll have 10,000 clicks overnight.
geokstr: amen. I just usually skip over the thread hijacking from the conspiracy addled.
I would say ArtfldgrsGhost needs to check his meds, but I think it is clear to everyone on this site that he is self-medicating.
KLSmith:
Unfortunately, Alinskyites have many, many of thousands of paid staff and devoted unpaid volunteers whose entire function is to dig up anything that can possibly be misinterpretted, misquoted, twisted, spun or flat-out lied about in order to discredit anyone opposed to collectivism. Once properly massaged, they post this “evidence” as “fact” on all the social media and leftling blogs, where it’s picked up and amplified by their millions of useful idiots, which includes the media.
They rely on their constant attacks being ignored by those who can refute them, because we simply don’t have the unlimited time, resources and personnel to prove we never did beat our wives.
Soon all this lunacy becomes accepted wisdom for half the population, like “Bush lied, people died”, “Hands up, don’t shoot”, and “Romney deliberately caused a woman in his binder to die of cancer.”
The Big Lie. It works.
I find it sad that many on here are torpedoing Carson because he endorsed Trump. Is that what happens? If someone thinks Trump is the best choice, you must denigrate them and decide they were not the person you thought?
I like Carson. I respect Carson. He has had an amazing life. He’s a smart man. I think he would be an asset in any administration in just the areas Trump mentioned…healthcare and education.
I find it sad that you all will dismiss this just because you dislike Trump.
Carson is no dummy. He also mentioned he has known Trump for ‘several years.’ This means he has seen the Trump who is not trying to win a very competitive primary….Trump is not a shyster, not a carnival barker nor a lunatic.
Get over it already. Carson picked Trump. No need to dump on Carson b/c he didn’t go for Cruz or Rubio or whomever. Geez.
I spent 5 minutes trying to disable my popup blocker in order to stream CNN, then I realized that things like this are exactly why I want a popup blocker. I mean, if I permit my computer to show me things like the CNN Republican debate, I have no one to blame but myself.
K-E,
Carson’s right to endorse Trump isn’t the issue, what it reveals about Carson, i.e. pettiness, lack of discernment regarding Trump and shallow understanding of the issues… is the issue.
K-E:
Gee, I guess we can’t say we disagree with a person who endorses another person we think is a bad choice. And we can’t say it shows bad judgment. Nor can we say it’s really odd of Carson to have endorsed someone who says that you are pathological and incurable, and likens you to a child molester (and see this to review your memory about the depth of Trump’s hypocrisy on that, considering his own violent temper as a child).
Oh, and also—any commenter (or anyone for that matter) who tries to refute an argument by saying “get over it” is skirting troll territory, no matter what the subject. I am not saying you are a troll. But “get over it” is not an argument.
Hate to go there, but, seriously, what’s with the hair?
Your insinuations that ted Cruz is somehow a puppet for the drug cartels or Goldman Sachs is insane and if you did believe that, then why on Earth would you then support Donald J. Trump who is the embodiment of crony capitalism and corporate malfeasance?
well, i didnt say cruz was a puppet for the cartels, i said the cartels are a puppe of the bankers and that elliot abrams was the go to guy for the crack epidemic that he was pardoned for after being found guilty with oliver north… he also sent weapons to iran..
and crony capitalism is fascism..
you cant be a crony capitalist unless your part of the elite and trump is definitely not as the elite just met at sea island to show you who they are, and who they like over trump.. if he was as crony as eli musk, he would not have eli musk at sea island…
he is HATED by these because he has succeeded despite their trying to hurt him for 40 years. i live in nyc, and have known trum and all his stuff outside of this election most of my life and i have met the man several times too.
why do i support trump, well out of the four choices on the table he is the only one that your crony capitalists hate, the elite hate, the billoinaires who fund this game hate, the bankers who also fund them hate..
got it? bernie is a communist, hillary is a crypto communist (read her wellesly papers and her husbands time in the soviet union getting an education) and then there is cruz, who has surrounded homself with the cream of cronies and wont release his finance papers to the election commission over the big money he got from Goldman sachs which put him in state before this.. they also are one of his biggest contributors, and if you remember were key in the iran contra thing as well… or dont you remember that? or how about his campaign leader leaking about the surgeon that just recommended trump? or how he lied that an episcopalian was jewish to get her out of a race and is considered one of the dirtiest players in the game today…
what do you really have on trump?
bad hair, big mouth, changing his mind, narcisism that is not as bad as obama, a huge cadre of past people who say he is great, not one woman claiming rape (clarence thomas, etc), the women working for him currently and in the past claiming he is hard but fair, his divorced wife likes him, calling him hitler despite his daughter converted to being an observant jew, and a lot more..
none of them substantial and many of them things the other candidates cant be compared to as none of the others had businesses, unless you look to their team and that has bail outs, banksters, cheats, and so on
and what about past presidents you forgot?
should i point out the list of alcoholic president, the rapist president, the racist one that hated blacks and called his penis jumbo, the president who was caught using power to have sex with a intern, the president who had a mistress and used her to pass messages to the mob?
sorry, but i am about the only troll that is putting up stuff of substance..
did you read the list of sea island attendees?
Apple CEO Tim Cook
Google co-founder Larry Page
Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.)
Karl Rove
Bill Kristol
Bill Kristol – The key task now, to once again paraphrase Karl Marx, is less to understand Trump than to stop him,”
and they are all in for cruz… they certainly arent fighting him
am i a troll, or do i know more than you do about who is a member of what, and do more research than you do?
think hard on that… cause if your waiting for the sulzbergers to write in their newspaper about their dealings with soros and the other cronies at sea island (they were there too), then your gonna wait for a long time
geokstr Says: Cruz has only been in one prior election. It was subject to all the donor reporting requirements everyone else is. His donations are on the Open Secrets website and elsewhere. He must be a real dummy at being secretive.
By now most people are aware of the controversy surrounding Candidate Ted Cruz and his failure to reveal $1.3 million in campaign “loans” from Goldman Sachs and Citibank during his 2012 campaign for the senate.
At the heart of the issue is a failure of Ted and Heidi Cruz to list Wall Street “loans” on the required Federal Election Commission financial reports.
Together with the campaign officials the Cruz’s say the non-reporting was an accidental oversight. However, a watch dog group has now filed a complaint with the FEC which is step one to beginning an FEC investigation.
if the Cruz campaign corrects the record based on the explanations to the media, the amended reports will reflect their violations of federal campaign finance laws.
if i try to address the rest of your post, neo will cut this down
geokstr Says: But nothing ever will satisfy an Alinsky activist like you
Really?
hey guys… think i am an alinsky activist or an anti-communist? anyone want to stand up for me, or not?
i have been posting here for almost 10 years…
and its never been alinsky…
all your doing is trying to have me change my mind so that some wacko idiot who doesnt know crap, and cant debate me information to information, to change my mind..
arent you now in your post, doing the alinsky waltz?
geokstr Says: Of course, you’ll now bring up the loans from Citibank and Goldman Sach’s, which were personal loans collateralized by his own assets, which anyone with great credit can get, the proceeds of which he lent to his campaign. I’ve seen reports from experts on campaign finance law who say this is a common mistake on FEC filings regarding personal loans.
A candidate CANNOT take out an unsecured signature loan for their campaign. Also, while the legalese can quickly get a person into the weeds, essentially a candidate’s spouse is similarly limited in contribution amount to the same principles as an unrelated campaign donor. If a candidate could take out an unsecured signature loan, it opens the door wide open to corrupt exploitation by external influence. In this example, third parties, who are part of the influence equation, could pay back the loan on the candidate’s behalf, avoid FEC/public scrutiny and hold influence over what the elected political official does in office.
so much for what you know…
and you forget… WHAT IS CRUZ CAREER BEFORE OFFICE?
he is a freaking lawyer… so your saying a lawyer will make a simple mistake on campaign law… and get disbarred?
why would such a brilliant legal expert, a very smart lawyer like Ted Cruz, just inadvertently omit such a filing to the FEC. Wouldn’t an equally sharp spouse like Heidi S. Cruz, who was -according to Ted- a key decision maker in the loans, and who is also an energy investment banker with Goldman Sachs, also identify the concern?
Cambridge Analytica is a biggie.. know anything about it?
sorry, but i actually read the law, the forms, read memberships of organizations, and so on.
do you?
lots more.. but i am limited in what i can post..
Artfldgr:
Well, I can certainly say that you’ve never been an Alinsky activist nor are you a liberal.
You often post things that are controversial, however, and we often disagree on a host of things. You also seem to have a double standard for behavior re Trump (whom you support) and Cruz (whom you do not).
Riddle me this. Have you devoted 1% of the time to research Trump and his extremely numerous flaws, falsehoods, contradictions and thuggery as you have on Cruz? No? What a coincidence. Yet you’re certain he is the answer.
hey guys… anyone here who has read me for 10 years think i didnt look up every name on both campaigns and the others too? that i also looked up the names of the members of organizations, associations, etc.
who is the guy here who puts up not just articles, but the law, historical tracts, and more?
anyone, anyone?
Artfldgr:
Nor would I say that you’re ordinarily remiss in the research department 🙂 .
However, that doesn’t make all your conclusions correct, nor does it mean that all your sources are correct, either. On the whole, though, you’re particularly good at history and especially the history of Communist countries and leftists in this country.
You also seem to have a double standard for behavior re Trump (whom you support) and Cruz (whom you do not).
well, i would like cruz if he was like trump and had fewer associations with the worst part of what we have discussed has been bad..
trump is noisy, and no, not my choice if i could choose anyone… but i have to choose among whats offered, not choose what i want..
its no more difficult than that… i have friends in republican politics (including a potential governor of nj), and i have met trump personally…
so maybe that skews… but i also grew up in a slum, with blue collar big talkers who never did bad despite their bombastic bs talk… and unlike most, i have followed trumps career since i was a young man..
so there is way way way too much for me to bring up, and most of that is actually inconsequential… i dont care if he offends. freedom of speech is his right, and he would never be as far in the economic ladder if he did that behind the doors instead of infront of the camera. yes he is a showman, but so were kennedy, lbj, etc…
what i care about is the company they keep
trump is not perfect, but being so hated if his actions were at all more negative than you heard and criminal or they could make it so, we would not be talking, he would be up on charges.
he has remained free and untouchable cause he is clean. i have known enough business types of his caliber to know they dont add rules or morals to their actions when the court says what they do is legal.
so you and others and maybe myself a bit (which probably has costed me success), will say, dont throw the widow off the farm for failure to pay mortgage, and he says:
these are the rules, and if it was the other way around, you would not let me go, you would hold me to them too.
i learned that from my friend jj, who is worth a ton of money and his gig was to come in to failing businesses and get a large chunk of them for a steal, and then rework them to be successful and go off and do it again.
you think the owners grumlbed before and after? yes they did, but those are the rules. you dont like them, then elect differen rule makers.
is it cold? maybe… but he has to operate under them, and your damn well better know that people are making up extra rules they think should apply to a billionaire just cause he has more money, but if applied to a poor person, would not stick
so my experiecne with such people is unusual. i have worked with many of them, some have been my friends for a time, a few even saved my life and career for nothing more than a way to pay back how someone else helped them (but cant pay them back because they dont need anything).
i know that what they appear like is not what they are or what they want you to think, and trump has not been treated kindly by the left liberal press under the thumb of sea island types for ever. from when he showed up the dems in ny by making the skating rink work, his other stuff i know about.
you know neo, that i do a lto of research. that it replaces a social life where lots of people make me the victim cause i cant read them well. but i had never been cheated by these biggies i knew, quite the opposite, and they took me under their wing and taught me. but alas, its hard to do what the rules say and not feel or feel and somehow put it aside.
when i was making bigger money i had to once fire a few thousand people, to this day, 35 years later, i still fee bad about that, and that was necessary, not evil, etc.
i get this… i understand this
and i also understand the average person has no ide aof this, has little compassion for such, and even less caring.. and all they need to know for the most part is how wealthy they are… as if earning makes you evil or you cant earn unless you are evil – which is so untrue and so leftist.
and you know neo i have a huge memory for all this stuff like rain man can remember baseball scores.. and do instant calander tricks..
i cant help but remember while others can forget.
its not a boon, its a curse… a big curse.
even worse, the memory and thing often puts me on the opposite side of people i would like and wouldnt mind being friends with, but cant, as i have to be honest, not hide stuff, and answer honestly from the facts i find.
for people like me, honesty is a thing we value more than friends, more than a lot. to a fault… (and we have discussed that)… most people value connecting, and most people will change their answer to the wrong one to do so.. (and you know i can pull up the psych studies that show that)… but i am not like that.
heck, when the police questioned me about a murder that never happend, i could have easily given in and i can see how people do, but they basically tortured me and ruined my life and career to get me to answer and i would only tell the truth… eventually the corpse walked in and said hi…
i dont know how to answer as i used to like cruz, and if he didnt have such deep associations with the gruops, people and money that has been causing the past 50 years of problems, woudl vote for him..
but he does have those and has them close and that was something eveyrone ignored with obama, and now they are not learning from that mistake.
i do wish we had better choices..
but in the absence of that, i am going for the naive person who is disconnected and cant help screwing up the deals and stuff that makes all those people at sea island, the CFR, the tralateral commission, the bilderburts, the world economic form, and a lot more scared that they are about to have all their work ruined for another 25 years as reagan did.
other than that, who we vote for doesnt matter
sea island should clue you in on that
they are so scared their plans for a future under their control is about to be knocked over they dont care if you see them all together trying to save their schemes!!!!!!!!!!
When Carly Fiorina came out for Cruz, I had no thought in my head about her that was negative at all. That is my point. I just say to myself something like this:
1) Well that makes sense.
2) Isn’t that interesting. I wouldn’t have guessed that.
3) Oh, no, Carly!
I never dump all over the person suddenly. I LIKED Carly. I had some problems with her, but just because she throws her hat into the Cruz ring doesn’t tell me that she suddenly is now a different person. She is the same person, just supporting a candidate.
What I’m hearing here is the Carson is now awful, stupid, naive or what have you. I’d rather see more “oh no, Carson” comments than some I’ve seen on here.
That’s just me, I guess. I see the comments here as very petty and childish.
K-E:
As I have already written, I started noticing negative things about Carson during one of the previous debates. I wrote about it one month ago, so this is nothing new for me. In fact, his support of Trump is not a surprise to me at all; I have been expecting it for some time, starting with that debate and building afterwards.
You may note also, if you look at the comments to that post from a month ago, that a lot of people here agreed with me. So this is not some sudden precipitous anti-Carson about-face on my part nor on the part of many people here because of his Trump endorsement.
KLSmith — you forgot that Cruz was the guy on the grassy knoll who REALLY shot JFK.
“you cant be a crony capitalist unless your part of the elite and trump is definitely not as the elite just met at sea island to show you who they are, and who they like over trump.”
Madness. You can be a crony capitalist without meeting at Sea Island. All you have to do to be a crony capitalist is to buy influence. Donald Trump admits – brags – that he’s bought influence.
RS: hmm; he is from Texas. Just because he hadn’t been born yet doesn’t mean anything. He’s probably lying about how old he really is.
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Hurts….. Hurts….. Hurts…. Make it stop.
Someone needs to pound some sense into voters. Maybe if we’re lucky, some common sense will infect any Bernie supporters who tune in to laugh.
I’m reading that Dr. Carson is going to endorse Donald Trump.
The good doctor does not appear to understand national politics.
Trump has the wind at his back — ie the MSM — that’s Trump’s strength.
It will whip around and be in his face this Fall.
“I’m reading that Dr. Carson is going to endorse Donald Trump.
The good doctor does not appear to understand national politics.”
I’m a little confused on his endorsement. Then again Carson’s rhetoric is as vague and feel good as Trump so I suppose that’s where the two meet. Plus, my dad mentioned “both were outsiders” so that might it as well.
I also find it odd that he gets petty with Cruz but not with Trump after Trump called him a pedophile. There’s definitely some selective hate and bias on Carson’s part, and for that I have lost a little respect for the man (should’ve pulled out of the race much earlier).
GRA:
I’ve lost a lot of respect for Carson, and it was before this. It was during one of the more recent debates when Carson got sneakily passive-aggressive and effectively said “I’m going to follow Reagan’s rule and not criticize another Republican” and then proceeded to get petty and criticized Cruz even after he’d apologized for the report his workers made about Carson quitting the campaign.
And yet Carson’s completely okay with Trump calling him a psychopath and doubting his religion. IMHO, Carson’s motive in endorsing Trump seems to be (aside from whatever Trump may or may not have promised him) Carson’s rancor at Cruz. And don’t forget that Trump took Carson’s side in that spat and used it against Cruz, who was threatening him in the polls. Apparently Carson didn’t see that as the self-serving strategy by Trump that it almost certainly was.
I also read this from Carson:
So Carson thinks he knows the real Donald Trump, the one who would govern—even though Trump has chosen to be purposefully two-faced and not shown that face to the public. And the reason Trump is being hypocritical and deceptive with the people whose votes and trust he’s trying to win? Entertainment.
What an astounding recommendation.
Donald just basically said parents can wait to buy their kid’s diapers while we’re building the factories here in America that will make them. Because the kid can hold it while we wait or go ahead and get potty trained. How do you not see his genius?
Yeah, it’s just as well Carson didn’t take off. Feel badly for the people that sent him their hard earned money.
Trump is going to make good deals. We don’t need no stinking details, unbelievers.
Carson is a brilliant, highly skilled surgeon. He is also a vain fool. Whatever promises he may have received from Trump have an expiration date.
excellent closing statement from cruz. America is a great country because the son of a bartender, the son of a mailman, the son of a dishwasher, and the son of a successful business man can stand on this stage….
took a second for the audience to get it.
After watching that debate, there’s no way Rubio’s leaving the race before the 15th. Whether he leaves after the 15th depends on how Florida turns out.
I realize that it is not popular to say this here, but I thought Trump did well in this debate. He showed the most improvement in the debate.
1. He didn’t back down on Islam and brought up the abominable way women are treated in mainstream Islamic countries which are supposed to be the real Muslims.
2. His ideas on trade made sense – insist that our products are treated the same in our trade partner’s countries as theirs are treated in our country.
Cruz had a strong performance as usual and should become a strong contender when Rubio and possibly Kasich drop out.
Rubio and Kasich both did OK considering their probability of winning is zilch.
I think Trump has dangled the VP slot.
I’m beginning to think about the Ted Stevens precedent.
A sitting US Senator is indicted in federal court, runs for re-election, is convicted and almost wins.
Hillary could be indicted and still win the election before any trial. Once she wins, she pardons herself. The president’s pardon power is unconditional.
Why not the above? Who stops her?
Started streaming less than 1 hour ago UPDATE: Initial reports are that Dr. Ben Carson will endorse Mr. Trump at this event. Friday, March 11, 2016: GOP Presidential front-runner Donald Trump will hold a press conference at the Mar-A-Lago Club in Palm Beach, FL. It is believed that he will be joined by retired neurosurgeon and former Presidential candidate Ben Carson.
ArtfldgrsGhost Says: March 11th, 2016 at 9:22 am
The Sea Island Conspiracy
http://neoneocon.com/2016/03/10/ace-explains-why-he-went-from-trump-curious-to-anti-trump/#comment-993826
teaser:
“The key task now, to … paraphrase Karl Marx, is less to understand Trump than to stop him.” — William Kristol, editor of the rabidly anti-Trump Weekly Standard
I had to miss 90 minutes of the debate to attend a meeting. The snippets I saw showed Cruz (who is my candidate) doing a very good job. Several commenters above agree with that.
The Washington Times reported after the debate that Rubio and Trump were the big winners and Cruz and Kasich the big losers. How did I get it so wrong?
And lastly, just in case you guys memory has failed (as it has)…
Here is the wind up…
Ted Cruz’s Closest Counselors Are Neocons
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/21764-ted-cruz-s-closest-counsellors-are-neocon-cfr-vips
Ted Cruz’s choice of Elliot Abrams to help craft his foreign policy is disappointing. Like his colleagues on Cruz’s council, Abrams is a leader in the neocon world, and he is a leader of what is perhaps the most powerful and pernicious group in the neocon network: the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
and then, to wake people up to the past they seem to forget…
The pitch…
From THE NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE
The Contras, Cocaine, and Covert Operations
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm
On February 10, 1986, Owen (“TC”) wrote North (this time as “BG,” for “Blood and Guts”) regarding a plane being used to carry “humanitarian aid” to the contras that was previously used to transport drugs The plane belongs to the Miami-based company Vortex, which is run by Michael Palmer, one of the largest marijuana traffickers in the United States. Despite Palmer’s long history of drug smuggling, which would soon lead to a Michigan indictment on drug charges, Palmer receives over $300,000 from the Nicaraguan Humanitarian Aid Office (NHAO) — an office overseen by Oliver North, Assistant Secretary of State for Inter-American Affairs Elliott Abrams, and CIA officer Alan Fiers — to ferry supplies to the contras.
yes.. one of Cruz main men were somewhat helpfully responsible for creatingthe huge cocaine trade in the US, the crisis that later became the Crack epidemic
Crack epidemic
Beginning with the Iran—Contra affair, some politicians and journalists began arguing that the CIA contributed to the rise of the epidemic. Allegations ranged from the presence of drug ties to the Contra rebels, to possible direct involvement in drug trafficking by the Contras and even members of the CIA. The exact degree of awareness and involvement on the part of the CIA itself continues to be disputed. However, on April 17, 1986, the Reagan Administration released a three-page report admitting that there were some Contra-cocaine connections in 1984 and 1985, arguing that these connections occurred at a time when the rebels were “particularly hard pressed for financial support” because U.S. aid had been cut off
Iran—Contra affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
Senior administration officials secretly facilitated the sale of arms to Iran, which was the subject of an arms embargo
The scandal began as an operation to free the seven American hostages being held in Lebanon by a group with Iranian ties connected to the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to Iran, and then the United States would resupply Israel and receive the Israeli payment.
Indictments
Elliott Abrams, Assistant Secretary of State, convicted of withholding evidence, but after a plea bargain was given only two years probation. Later pardoned by President George H. W. Bush.
i will not vote for a candidate that gives such people a job, and makes them key players while claiming to be constituational and not elite… ie. how does a man help create a crack cocaine crisis that murders millions to fund govt overthrow of other regimes by murdering americans for the cash, and not go to jail because another elite pardons him of the crime…
or to quote ayers:
Guilty as hell, free as a bird…
you can vote for him, and you can think that he is what you want, but people with ANY integrity would not associate with such a person, let alone have at least half a dozen criminals on their campaign inner circle with most of them violating the constitution or the trust of the american people in favor of the oligharchs
sorry a close bold/strong was missed… 🙁
Dennis says, …I thought Trump did well in this debate.
If by well you mean he didn’t talk about his penis, insult one of his rivals with ad hominem drivel, or boast about how rich he is, then yes. Otherwise he showed his lack of knowledge in foreign affairs and a complete misunderstanding of what makes a totalitarian dictatorship. On the question of recognition of Cuba he never gave a clear answer after repeating being pressed on it. He thinks it’s fine but he would somehow get a better deal, whatever the hell that means. The man is a demented joke.
In 1985, 5.7 million people were cocaine abusers, but by 2000, this figure had dropped to 1.2 million. About one in five of these were crack cocaine users (265,000). By 2006, the number of crack cocaine users hit 702,000, the highest number so far.
In these same years, methamphetamine and Ecstasy use were growing, and now the current elites have an open border in which mexico supplies crack, cocaine, meth, ecstasy, GHB, and more…
and you want to know which bank did some of the biggest stuff not just the real estate crash and other things, but also drug laundering and paying off judges, and having their people marry politiicans, and on and on
anyone remember: Carmen Segarra????
she was the Goldman Sachs whistleblower that recorded their malfeasance.
Bank Lords have been buying off judges and regulators after already buying off cops (JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon “Gifts” Largest Donation Ever to NYPD of $4.6MM). When Fed regulators asked Segarra to alter minutes of meetings in which Goldman Sachs bankers’ immoral behavior was discussed in order to cover up the truth and to lie about the content of these meetings, Segarra decided to secretly record her meetings with her bosses.
In one meeting Segarra attended, a Goldman employee expressed the view that “once clients are wealthy enough, certain consumer laws don’t apply to them.”
So now that we know that Bank Lords buy out morally-challenged regulators, cops and judges in return for carte-blanche to continue committing crimes, rig markets to collect undeserved and unearned kickbacks, and launder drug cartel money from violent cartels that murder 10,000 people a year (the Sinaloa drug cartel), is there really even a line in the sand that separates Bank Lords and Drug Lords, or have Bank Lords become the new Drug Lords?
[without the open border, they would not have as much money to launder… who cares about the immigrants.. imbedded in the flow is the movement of drugs. and the elites want you to think about these poor people, and not the drugs that are also coming over hidden in the crowd of illegals!!!!!!!!!!!]
when the Bank CEOs know that there is zero risk of going to jail, even after they are caught, or of suffering any negative repercussions from continuing to bathe in blood money, they will never cease engaging in the types of crimes that drags the world further into darkness. And even if Nanex’s Eric Scott Hunsader did say tongue-in-cheek that he would “put everything he had in Goldman Sachs because these guys can do whatever they want”
how much of cruz campaign money is sources in the south american drug lords since he has been accepting Goldman Sachs money for his prior elections (which he refuses to show) and currently given the who’s who list of people on his team and THEIR connections to this large money trade
In the United States, five banks control half the economy: JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo, and Goldman Sachs Group collectively held $8.5 trillion in assets at the end of 2011, which equals roughly 56% of the U.S. economy.
This data was according to central bankers at the Federal Reserve. In 2007, the assets of the largest banks amounted to 43% of the U.S. economy. Thus, the crisis has made the banks bigger and more powerful than ever.
Because the government invoked “too big to fail,” meaning that the big banks will be saved because they are very important, the big banks have incentive to make continued and bigger risks, because they will be bailed out in the end. Essentially, it’s an insurance policy for criminal risk-taking behaviour.
The former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis stated, “Market participants believe that nothing has changed, that too-big-to-fail is fully intact.” Remember, “market” means the banking cartel (or “super-entity” if you prefer). Thus, they build new bubbles and buy government bonds (sovereign debt), making the global financial system increasingly insecure and at risk of a larger collapse than took place in 2008
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Banks like JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs engaged in bribery, fraud, and conspiracies which resulted in the bankruptcy of counties all across the United States.[22] Still, they continue to be ‘respected’ by the political class which refuses to punish them for their criminal activity, and instead, rewards them with bailouts and follows their instructions for policy.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
This followed roughly one week after a group of 15 major global bank CEOs sent a letter to President Obama and the U.S. Congress lecturing the U.S. political class on “moral authority,” giving their formal orders to the U.S. political establishment, that regardless of Democratic or Republican administrations, they are losing patience with the democratic apparatus of the state, and warned: “The solvency, productive capacity, and stability of the United States, as well as its moral authority as a global leader, require that its fiscal challenges be credibly met.”
Among the signatories to the letter were the CEOs of Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley and Wells Fargo.
The Wall Street Journal, reporting on this letter, commented that even for “a dying democracy, it’s embarrassing enough to see bankers telling our government what to do,” but in this letter, “we even see foreign bankers telling our government what to do,” as other CEOs of the global cartel signed the letter, from banks such as UBS, Credit Suisse, and Deutsche Bank.
The “consequences of inaction” on the U.S. debt, read the letter, “would be very grave.” In other words, the U.S. political class has received a threat from the global cartel that it is now time to implement austerity and adjustment measures, or to face the consequences of financial terrorism
so now big banks get billions in loans straight from the fed to invest and play games and make money and for ZERO interest… (and in europe they are paid to take the money with a negative rate)…
OT
Democrat party is imploding, too.
http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar16/imploding-parties3-16.html
This is a theme I’ve posted on — going back months.
The give-away: the thin Democrat bench.
ArtfldgrsGhost. Really? I mean REALLY!!!??? You are an odious internet troll who spends their entire life trying to connect “dots” that aren’t even there. Your insinuations that ted Cruz is somehow a puppet for the drug cartels or Goldman Sachs is insane and if you did believe that, then why on Earth would you then support Donald J. Trump who is the embodiment of crony capitalism and corporate malfeasance?
A new thought occurred to me today regarding the establishment:
They may encourage Kasich and Rubio to stay in because *neither* Trump nor Cruz are acceptable to them. I don’t see how that works out in the end for the GOPe, though.
My default position is still that Rubio and Kasich are driven by personal motives, rather than external control.
I had to work and so watched the debate later, but I’m wondering if anyone else thinks that Trump saying “strong doesn’t mean good” is a potential gold mine clip for an ad?
A number of Trump supporters are (I suspect) picking him from a belief in him as a “strongman” who will be “good” for them. But in his own words, strong doesn’t mean good.
So take that clip and mix it with clips from supporters calling him strong and facts about the bad “strong” that Trump admires to highlight that Trump would himself be a “bad” strongman, perhaps? Just a thought…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSP9FZ9pvFs&index=9&list=PLutTd7PD-0CJ4n0KwA4yTqy6z_EHmGY3I
quote is from about 10:50 in this video
Don’t forget that Cruz is also responsible for the AIDS epidemic. No doubt that he’s probably involved in the trafficking of underage children for unspeakable purposes, too.
Artfldgrs:
“…he has been accepting Goldman Sachs money for his prior elections (which he refuses to show)…”
You are a perfect example of Reagan’s famous quote, “It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”
Cruz has only been in one prior election. It was subject to all the donor reporting requirements everyone else is. His donations are on the Open Secrets website and elsewhere. He must be a real dummy at being secretive.
Of course, you’ll now bring up the loans from Citibank and Goldman Sach’s, which were personal loans collateralized by his own assets, which anyone with great credit can get, the proceeds of which he lent to his campaign. I’ve seen reports from experts on campaign finance law who say this is a common mistake on FEC filings regarding personal loans.
He has reported them on every other report he filed of his personal liabilities.
But nothing ever will satisfy an Alinsky activist like you, not even if he allowed you personally to audit his whole life. It’s all part of Rule #13 “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Never allow that your target has any redeeming qualities whatsoever, like being a good citizen or a good father. He must only be portrayed as the embodiment of total evil.
You’ve even combined it with the “Gish Gallop” (look it up) where you throw out as much garbage all at once, no matter how nebulous, specious or conspiracy tin foil hat crap. Inundate the reader with so much verbiage that their eyes glaze over. Then claim it’s all meticulously researched, all from unbiased sources.
Riddle me this. Have you devoted 1% of the time to research Trump and his extremely numerous flaws, falsehoods, contradictions and thuggery as you have on Cruz? No? What a coincidence. Yet you’re certain he is the answer.
Your volume of repetitious dirt-dishing here on everyone not-Trump is often the bulk of every comment section. Why don’t you set up your own blog where like thinkers can gather? A couple of links on Breitbart and you’ll have 10,000 clicks overnight.
geokstr: amen. I just usually skip over the thread hijacking from the conspiracy addled.
I would say ArtfldgrsGhost needs to check his meds, but I think it is clear to everyone on this site that he is self-medicating.
KLSmith:
Unfortunately, Alinskyites have many, many of thousands of paid staff and devoted unpaid volunteers whose entire function is to dig up anything that can possibly be misinterpretted, misquoted, twisted, spun or flat-out lied about in order to discredit anyone opposed to collectivism. Once properly massaged, they post this “evidence” as “fact” on all the social media and leftling blogs, where it’s picked up and amplified by their millions of useful idiots, which includes the media.
They rely on their constant attacks being ignored by those who can refute them, because we simply don’t have the unlimited time, resources and personnel to prove we never did beat our wives.
Soon all this lunacy becomes accepted wisdom for half the population, like “Bush lied, people died”, “Hands up, don’t shoot”, and “Romney deliberately caused a woman in his binder to die of cancer.”
The Big Lie. It works.
I find it sad that many on here are torpedoing Carson because he endorsed Trump. Is that what happens? If someone thinks Trump is the best choice, you must denigrate them and decide they were not the person you thought?
I like Carson. I respect Carson. He has had an amazing life. He’s a smart man. I think he would be an asset in any administration in just the areas Trump mentioned…healthcare and education.
I find it sad that you all will dismiss this just because you dislike Trump.
Carson is no dummy. He also mentioned he has known Trump for ‘several years.’ This means he has seen the Trump who is not trying to win a very competitive primary….Trump is not a shyster, not a carnival barker nor a lunatic.
Get over it already. Carson picked Trump. No need to dump on Carson b/c he didn’t go for Cruz or Rubio or whomever. Geez.
I spent 5 minutes trying to disable my popup blocker in order to stream CNN, then I realized that things like this are exactly why I want a popup blocker. I mean, if I permit my computer to show me things like the CNN Republican debate, I have no one to blame but myself.
K-E,
Carson’s right to endorse Trump isn’t the issue, what it reveals about Carson, i.e. pettiness, lack of discernment regarding Trump and shallow understanding of the issues… is the issue.
K-E:
Gee, I guess we can’t say we disagree with a person who endorses another person we think is a bad choice. And we can’t say it shows bad judgment. Nor can we say it’s really odd of Carson to have endorsed someone who says that you are pathological and incurable, and likens you to a child molester (and see this to review your memory about the depth of Trump’s hypocrisy on that, considering his own violent temper as a child).
Oh, and also—any commenter (or anyone for that matter) who tries to refute an argument by saying “get over it” is skirting troll territory, no matter what the subject. I am not saying you are a troll. But “get over it” is not an argument.
Hate to go there, but, seriously, what’s with the hair?
Your insinuations that ted Cruz is somehow a puppet for the drug cartels or Goldman Sachs is insane and if you did believe that, then why on Earth would you then support Donald J. Trump who is the embodiment of crony capitalism and corporate malfeasance?
well, i didnt say cruz was a puppet for the cartels, i said the cartels are a puppe of the bankers and that elliot abrams was the go to guy for the crack epidemic that he was pardoned for after being found guilty with oliver north… he also sent weapons to iran..
and crony capitalism is fascism..
you cant be a crony capitalist unless your part of the elite and trump is definitely not as the elite just met at sea island to show you who they are, and who they like over trump.. if he was as crony as eli musk, he would not have eli musk at sea island…
he is HATED by these because he has succeeded despite their trying to hurt him for 40 years. i live in nyc, and have known trum and all his stuff outside of this election most of my life and i have met the man several times too.
why do i support trump, well out of the four choices on the table he is the only one that your crony capitalists hate, the elite hate, the billoinaires who fund this game hate, the bankers who also fund them hate..
got it? bernie is a communist, hillary is a crypto communist (read her wellesly papers and her husbands time in the soviet union getting an education) and then there is cruz, who has surrounded homself with the cream of cronies and wont release his finance papers to the election commission over the big money he got from Goldman sachs which put him in state before this.. they also are one of his biggest contributors, and if you remember were key in the iran contra thing as well… or dont you remember that? or how about his campaign leader leaking about the surgeon that just recommended trump? or how he lied that an episcopalian was jewish to get her out of a race and is considered one of the dirtiest players in the game today…
what do you really have on trump?
bad hair, big mouth, changing his mind, narcisism that is not as bad as obama, a huge cadre of past people who say he is great, not one woman claiming rape (clarence thomas, etc), the women working for him currently and in the past claiming he is hard but fair, his divorced wife likes him, calling him hitler despite his daughter converted to being an observant jew, and a lot more..
none of them substantial and many of them things the other candidates cant be compared to as none of the others had businesses, unless you look to their team and that has bail outs, banksters, cheats, and so on
and what about past presidents you forgot?
should i point out the list of alcoholic president, the rapist president, the racist one that hated blacks and called his penis jumbo, the president who was caught using power to have sex with a intern, the president who had a mistress and used her to pass messages to the mob?
sorry, but i am about the only troll that is putting up stuff of substance..
did you read the list of sea island attendees?
Apple CEO Tim Cook
Google co-founder Larry Page
Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.)
Karl Rove
Bill Kristol
Bill Kristol – The key task now, to once again paraphrase Karl Marx, is less to understand Trump than to stop him,”
EVEN huffington post reported it
At Secretive Meeting, Tech CEOs And Top Republicans Commiserate, Plot To Stop Trump
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_us_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d
what do you know about World Economic Forum??
did you know george soros is a part of it?
and he is a member and contributed articles (and money)?
http://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/georgesoros
and they are all in for cruz… they certainly arent fighting him
am i a troll, or do i know more than you do about who is a member of what, and do more research than you do?
think hard on that… cause if your waiting for the sulzbergers to write in their newspaper about their dealings with soros and the other cronies at sea island (they were there too), then your gonna wait for a long time
geokstr Says: Cruz has only been in one prior election. It was subject to all the donor reporting requirements everyone else is. His donations are on the Open Secrets website and elsewhere. He must be a real dummy at being secretive.
if the Cruz campaign corrects the record based on the explanations to the media, the amended reports will reflect their violations of federal campaign finance laws.
if i try to address the rest of your post, neo will cut this down
geokstr Says: But nothing ever will satisfy an Alinsky activist like you
Really?
hey guys… think i am an alinsky activist or an anti-communist? anyone want to stand up for me, or not?
i have been posting here for almost 10 years…
and its never been alinsky…
all your doing is trying to have me change my mind so that some wacko idiot who doesnt know crap, and cant debate me information to information, to change my mind..
arent you now in your post, doing the alinsky waltz?
geokstr Says: Of course, you’ll now bring up the loans from Citibank and Goldman Sach’s, which were personal loans collateralized by his own assets, which anyone with great credit can get, the proceeds of which he lent to his campaign. I’ve seen reports from experts on campaign finance law who say this is a common mistake on FEC filings regarding personal loans.
A candidate CANNOT take out an unsecured signature loan for their campaign. Also, while the legalese can quickly get a person into the weeds, essentially a candidate’s spouse is similarly limited in contribution amount to the same principles as an unrelated campaign donor. If a candidate could take out an unsecured signature loan, it opens the door wide open to corrupt exploitation by external influence. In this example, third parties, who are part of the influence equation, could pay back the loan on the candidate’s behalf, avoid FEC/public scrutiny and hold influence over what the elected political official does in office.
so much for what you know…
and you forget… WHAT IS CRUZ CAREER BEFORE OFFICE?
he is a freaking lawyer… so your saying a lawyer will make a simple mistake on campaign law… and get disbarred?
why would such a brilliant legal expert, a very smart lawyer like Ted Cruz, just inadvertently omit such a filing to the FEC. Wouldn’t an equally sharp spouse like Heidi S. Cruz, who was -according to Ted- a key decision maker in the loans, and who is also an energy investment banker with Goldman Sachs, also identify the concern?
she should know too… no?
There are three KtP Super-Pacs
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/483/201601199004527483/201601199004527483.pdf
http://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/481/201601199004527481/201601199004527481.pdf
Cambridge Analytica is a biggie.. know anything about it?
sorry, but i actually read the law, the forms, read memberships of organizations, and so on.
do you?
lots more.. but i am limited in what i can post..
Artfldgr:
Well, I can certainly say that you’ve never been an Alinsky activist nor are you a liberal.
You often post things that are controversial, however, and we often disagree on a host of things. You also seem to have a double standard for behavior re Trump (whom you support) and Cruz (whom you do not).
Riddle me this. Have you devoted 1% of the time to research Trump and his extremely numerous flaws, falsehoods, contradictions and thuggery as you have on Cruz? No? What a coincidence. Yet you’re certain he is the answer.
hey guys… anyone here who has read me for 10 years think i didnt look up every name on both campaigns and the others too? that i also looked up the names of the members of organizations, associations, etc.
who is the guy here who puts up not just articles, but the law, historical tracts, and more?
anyone, anyone?
Artfldgr:
Nor would I say that you’re ordinarily remiss in the research department 🙂 .
However, that doesn’t make all your conclusions correct, nor does it mean that all your sources are correct, either. On the whole, though, you’re particularly good at history and especially the history of Communist countries and leftists in this country.
You also seem to have a double standard for behavior re Trump (whom you support) and Cruz (whom you do not).
well, i would like cruz if he was like trump and had fewer associations with the worst part of what we have discussed has been bad..
trump is noisy, and no, not my choice if i could choose anyone… but i have to choose among whats offered, not choose what i want..
its no more difficult than that… i have friends in republican politics (including a potential governor of nj), and i have met trump personally…
so maybe that skews… but i also grew up in a slum, with blue collar big talkers who never did bad despite their bombastic bs talk… and unlike most, i have followed trumps career since i was a young man..
so there is way way way too much for me to bring up, and most of that is actually inconsequential… i dont care if he offends. freedom of speech is his right, and he would never be as far in the economic ladder if he did that behind the doors instead of infront of the camera. yes he is a showman, but so were kennedy, lbj, etc…
what i care about is the company they keep
trump is not perfect, but being so hated if his actions were at all more negative than you heard and criminal or they could make it so, we would not be talking, he would be up on charges.
he has remained free and untouchable cause he is clean. i have known enough business types of his caliber to know they dont add rules or morals to their actions when the court says what they do is legal.
so you and others and maybe myself a bit (which probably has costed me success), will say, dont throw the widow off the farm for failure to pay mortgage, and he says:
these are the rules, and if it was the other way around, you would not let me go, you would hold me to them too.
i learned that from my friend jj, who is worth a ton of money and his gig was to come in to failing businesses and get a large chunk of them for a steal, and then rework them to be successful and go off and do it again.
you think the owners grumlbed before and after? yes they did, but those are the rules. you dont like them, then elect differen rule makers.
is it cold? maybe… but he has to operate under them, and your damn well better know that people are making up extra rules they think should apply to a billionaire just cause he has more money, but if applied to a poor person, would not stick
so my experiecne with such people is unusual. i have worked with many of them, some have been my friends for a time, a few even saved my life and career for nothing more than a way to pay back how someone else helped them (but cant pay them back because they dont need anything).
i know that what they appear like is not what they are or what they want you to think, and trump has not been treated kindly by the left liberal press under the thumb of sea island types for ever. from when he showed up the dems in ny by making the skating rink work, his other stuff i know about.
you know neo, that i do a lto of research. that it replaces a social life where lots of people make me the victim cause i cant read them well. but i had never been cheated by these biggies i knew, quite the opposite, and they took me under their wing and taught me. but alas, its hard to do what the rules say and not feel or feel and somehow put it aside.
when i was making bigger money i had to once fire a few thousand people, to this day, 35 years later, i still fee bad about that, and that was necessary, not evil, etc.
i get this… i understand this
and i also understand the average person has no ide aof this, has little compassion for such, and even less caring.. and all they need to know for the most part is how wealthy they are… as if earning makes you evil or you cant earn unless you are evil – which is so untrue and so leftist.
and you know neo i have a huge memory for all this stuff like rain man can remember baseball scores.. and do instant calander tricks..
i cant help but remember while others can forget.
its not a boon, its a curse… a big curse.
even worse, the memory and thing often puts me on the opposite side of people i would like and wouldnt mind being friends with, but cant, as i have to be honest, not hide stuff, and answer honestly from the facts i find.
for people like me, honesty is a thing we value more than friends, more than a lot. to a fault… (and we have discussed that)… most people value connecting, and most people will change their answer to the wrong one to do so.. (and you know i can pull up the psych studies that show that)… but i am not like that.
heck, when the police questioned me about a murder that never happend, i could have easily given in and i can see how people do, but they basically tortured me and ruined my life and career to get me to answer and i would only tell the truth… eventually the corpse walked in and said hi…
i dont know how to answer as i used to like cruz, and if he didnt have such deep associations with the gruops, people and money that has been causing the past 50 years of problems, woudl vote for him..
but he does have those and has them close and that was something eveyrone ignored with obama, and now they are not learning from that mistake.
i do wish we had better choices..
but in the absence of that, i am going for the naive person who is disconnected and cant help screwing up the deals and stuff that makes all those people at sea island, the CFR, the tralateral commission, the bilderburts, the world economic form, and a lot more scared that they are about to have all their work ruined for another 25 years as reagan did.
other than that, who we vote for doesnt matter
sea island should clue you in on that
they are so scared their plans for a future under their control is about to be knocked over they dont care if you see them all together trying to save their schemes!!!!!!!!!!
When Carly Fiorina came out for Cruz, I had no thought in my head about her that was negative at all. That is my point. I just say to myself something like this:
1) Well that makes sense.
2) Isn’t that interesting. I wouldn’t have guessed that.
3) Oh, no, Carly!
I never dump all over the person suddenly. I LIKED Carly. I had some problems with her, but just because she throws her hat into the Cruz ring doesn’t tell me that she suddenly is now a different person. She is the same person, just supporting a candidate.
What I’m hearing here is the Carson is now awful, stupid, naive or what have you. I’d rather see more “oh no, Carson” comments than some I’ve seen on here.
That’s just me, I guess. I see the comments here as very petty and childish.
K-E:
As I have already written, I started noticing negative things about Carson during one of the previous debates. I wrote about it one month ago, so this is nothing new for me. In fact, his support of Trump is not a surprise to me at all; I have been expecting it for some time, starting with that debate and building afterwards.
You may note also, if you look at the comments to that post from a month ago, that a lot of people here agreed with me. So this is not some sudden precipitous anti-Carson about-face on my part nor on the part of many people here because of his Trump endorsement.
KLSmith — you forgot that Cruz was the guy on the grassy knoll who REALLY shot JFK.
“you cant be a crony capitalist unless your part of the elite and trump is definitely not as the elite just met at sea island to show you who they are, and who they like over trump.”
Madness. You can be a crony capitalist without meeting at Sea Island. All you have to do to be a crony capitalist is to buy influence. Donald Trump admits – brags – that he’s bought influence.
RS: hmm; he is from Texas. Just because he hadn’t been born yet doesn’t mean anything. He’s probably lying about how old he really is.