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  1. lee: I wondered about that, because the article referred to this as a “new” translation.

    Lots of pluses for Walker there. She loses nothing (the book already has been selling in Israel for decades) and she gets to vent her spleen, and get lots of publicity to boot. Sweet.

  2. More irony than you stated, Neo. Her heroes’ treatment of women is well matched by their attitude to blacks. If their way with women is vintage 13th century, then what they think of blacks is straight 1930s. Taken out of their Arab context, the average Arab’s thoughts about blacks could fit in Stormfront flawlessly.

    The Left is just contemptible in its standard–not even a double standard but a totally wrong standard: Where the historical but rectified facts of Western mistreatment of women and blacks are related to as if they were current events, while the current events of the Arab/Islamic world’s medieval treatment of women and Nazi-esque theorizing about blacks are brushed off as “Orientalism,” or worse.

    As for the rest, looks like a textbook manifestation of the Left’s “The personal is the political.” Pity the poor daughter whose mother can’t see beyond the blinders of politics.

  3. Leftists (even atheist Leftists) and Islamists share the same core RELIGIOUS belief: The STATE should control your every action, and even every thought.

  4. “To me, it was a one-dimensional political polemic with almost nothing but an agenda, and a transparent and relentless one at that. Not the sort of book I fancy, whatever the point of view.”

    Such were my thoughts when I read reviews, both positive and negative, at the time the book was all the rage. Consequently I never read it. In the past 15 years or so, though, I’ve heard people with decent judgment say “no, it’s actually a good book, in spite of all that.” So I’ve thought that I might give it a chance one day. However, it’s quite a low priority, and as I’m 63, the chances are pretty good it’s never going to get to the front of the queue.

    That’s mighty sad about the daughter. As for this stunt (can she even enforce that, I wonder?)…[ contemptuous sound]…come to think of it, it definitely won’t get to the front of the queue.

  5. “of course ignoring the intense irony of the Palestinians’ treatment of women”

    This is the antinomian assumption at work in the personification of the cult of self. Chutzpah to thee; authenticity to me.

  6. Read the book and watched the movie…. I found the Color Purple to be an engaging story and a candid look at misogyny in black culture. However, referring to your child as “a living, breathing, mixed-race embodiment of the new America that they were trying to forge” does not make for heartwarming words from the mouth of a mother. No wonder Rebecca is estranged. No one wants to be born as a political symbol. Sons and daughters want to be cherished children.

  7. Leftists seem to have an extremely large spleen which requires great amounts of venting.

  8. Ok..
    this is long..
    but its VERY important… IF you care about history.

    pt 1

    Howard Zinn a card carrying communist ended up inspiring feminist lies and racialist things? imagine that?

    21. The sixth category is especially important: women. They can be divided into three main groups. First, those frivilous, thoughtless, and vapid women, whom we shall use as we use the third and fourth category of men. Second, women who are ardent, capable, and devoted, but whom do not belong to us because they have not yet achieved a passionless and austere revolutionary understanding; these must be used like the men of the fifth category. Finally, there are the women who are completely on our side – i.e., those who are wholly dedicated and who have accepted our program in its entirety. We should regard these women as the most valuable of our treasures; without their help, we would never succeed.

    http://libcom.org/library/relations-revolutionary-toward-society

    Socialist, feminist, anti racist organization
    The Black Panthers Reconsidered
    – Samuel Farbe
    http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/2339

    Cleaver once identified with the notoriously unscrupulous Nechayev, who served as the model for Dostoyevsky’s The Possessed. Cleaver, writing about his pre-Panther history, told us that he

    “fell in love with Bakunin and Nechayev’s Catechism of the Revolutionist…I took the Catechism for my bible and, standing as a one-man platform that had nothing to do with the reconstruction of society, I began consciously incorporating these principles into my daily life, to employ tactics of ruthlessness in my dealings with everyone with whom I came into contact.”

    “the first legally married inter-racial couple in Mississippi”.

    that was probably a lie…

    if you do a search for this, you will suddenly find that your in democratic land where the republicans want interracial marriages banned.
    Google: interracial marriage Mississippi

    so how is it a lie?
    easy, the law that she is referring to STARTED in 1880

    Mississippi code bans intermarriage, declaring it to be “incestuous and void.” Statute provides the same punishment as for incest. Sec-tion 3244: “any party thereto, on conviction, shall be punished as for a marriage within the degrees prohibited by the last two sec-tions.”

    and we are in the progressive era and hayes tilden, and the murder of southern blacks who voted radical republican, and the knights of the white camelia murdering blacks.

    if the law was STARTED in 1880, did it come out of nowhere? i mean, laws are by nature, reactive. that is, they are created to address a problem that someone sees whether valid or not.

    so PRIOR to 1880 blacks and whites and people were legally free to intermingle!!!

    it was the democrats who then made it illegal.

    but what do do about those already legally married before 1880?

    1890 Constitution of Mississippi, art. 14, sec. 263: “The marriage of a white person with a negro or mulatto, or person who shall have one-eighth or more of negro blood, shall be unlawful and void.”

  9. pt 2

    when was it removed?

    1987 4 December: Mississippi Secretary of State proclaims that section 263 of 1890 constitution, prohibiting interracial marriage, is deleted based upon House Concurrent Resolution #13 (Laws 1987, ch.672) and ratification by the electorate on November 3.

    when they list out laws like this, they never ever ever tell you who motioned them, voted for them, or even who was dominating party politics at the time

    you can go here, and if your clever you will notice whats missing more than what is said
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-miscegenation_laws

    and watch this clever false imply:
    Such laws were first introduced in North America from the late seventeenth century onwards by several of the Thirteen Colonies, and subsequently by many US states and US territories and remained in force in many US states until 1967.

    go ahead, dig… find that law from the 1700s… At first, in the 1660s, the first laws in Virginia and Maryland regulating marriage between whites and blacks only pertained to the marriages of whites with black (and mulatto) slaves and indentured servants. In 1664, Maryland enacted a law which criminalized such marriages.

    ok.. fine.. what is the number and such and where can we read that law?

    the bans in Virginia and Maryland were established at a time when slavery was not yet fully institutionalized. At the time, most forced laborers on the plantations were indentured servants, and they were mostly white. Some historians have suggested that the at-the-time unprecedented laws banning interracial marriage were originally invented by planters as a divide-and-rule tactic after the uprising of servants in Bacon’s Rebellion. According to this theory, the ban on interracial marriage was issued to split up the racially mixed, increasingly mixed-race labor force into whites, who were given their freedom, and blacks, who were later treated as slaves rather than as indentured servants. By outlawing interracial marriage, it became possible to keep these two new groups separated and prevent a new rebellion.

    as occam has pointed out, the lynching records start right after the democratic mass slaughters and mutilations of hayes tilden

    but note… what was happening was indentured white servants were marrying and having relationships with black servants… the democrats of the plantation men, didn’t want their slaves to mix, and their children get smarter… (as they saw it)

    about the best you can do to find the text is to do a big search and hunt it down.. but in this case, given mississippi, you can look to who was in power at that time in 1880..

    Albert Gallatin Brown was Governor of Mississippi from 1844 to 1848 and a United States Senator from Mississippi from 1854 through 1861. In 1829, Brown entered Mississippi College, but soon transferred to Jefferson College, which he attended for about six months. He was a Democrat.

    but that was the term BEFORE the anti race mixing law… so who was the man who was in the chair at that time? who succeeded him?

    Howard Zinn a card carrying communist ended up inspiring feminist lies and racialist things? imagine that?

    21. The sixth category is especially important: women. They can be divided into three main groups. First, those frivilous, thoughtless, and vapid women, whom we shall use as we use the third and fourth category of men. Second, women who are ardent, capable, and devoted, but whom do not belong to us because they have not yet achieved a passionless and austere revolutionary understanding; these must be used like the men of the fifth category. Finally, there are the women who are completely on our side – i.e., those who are wholly dedicated and who have accepted our program in its entirety. We should regard these women as the most valuable of our treasures; without their help, we would never succeed.

    http://libcom.org/library/relations-revolutionary-toward-society

    Socialist, feminist, anti racist organization
    The Black Panthers Reconsidered
    – Samuel Farbe
    http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/2339

    Cleaver once identified with the notoriously unscrupulous Nechayev, who served as the model for Dostoyevsky’s The Possessed. Cleaver, writing about his pre-Panther history, told us that he

    “fell in love with Bakunin and Nechayev’s Catechism of the Revolutionist…I took the Catechism for my bible and, standing as a one-man platform that had nothing to do with the reconstruction of society, I began consciously incorporating these principles into my daily life, to employ tactics of ruthlessness in my dealings with everyone with whom I came into contact.”

    “the first legally married inter-racial couple in Mississippi”.

    that was a lie…

  10. pt 3

    if you do a search for this, you will suddenly find that your in democratic land where the republicans want interracial marriages banned.
    Google: interracial marriage Mississippi

    so how is it a lie?
    easy, the law that she is referring to STARTED in 1880

    Mississippi code bans intermarriage, declaring it to be “incestuous and void.” Statute provides the same punishment as for incest. Sec-tion 3244: “any party thereto, on conviction, shall be punished as for a marriage within the degrees prohibited by the last two sec-tions.”

    and we are in the progressive era and hayes tilden, and the murder of southern blacks who voted radical republican, and the knights of the white camelia murdering blacks.

    if the law was STARTED in 1880, did it come out of nowhere? i mean, laws are by nature, reactive. that is, they are created to address a problem that someone sees whether valid or not.

    so PRIOR to 1880 blacks and whites and people were legally free to intermingle!!!

    it was the democrats who then made it illegal.

    but what do do about those already legally married before 1880?

    1890 Constitution of Mississippi, art. 14, sec. 263: “The marriage of a white person with a negro or mulatto, or person who shall have one-eighth or more of negro blood, shall be unlawful and void.”

    and when was it removed?

    1987 4 December: Mississippi Secretary of State proclaims that section 263 of 1890 constitution, prohibiting interracial marriage, is deleted based upon House Concurrent Resolution #13 (Laws 1987, ch.672) and ratification by the electorate on November 3.

    when they list out laws like this, they never ever ever tell you who motioned them, voted for them, or even who was dominating party politics at the time

    you can go here, and if your clever you will notice whats missing more than what is said
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-miscegenation_laws

    and watch this clever false imply:
    Such laws were first introduced in North America from the late seventeenth century onwards by several of the Thirteen Colonies, and subsequently by many US states and US territories and remained in force in many US states until 1967.

    go ahead, dig… find that law from the 1700s… At first, in the 1660s, the first laws in Virginia and Maryland regulating marriage between whites and blacks only pertained to the marriages of whites with black (and mulatto) slaves and indentured servants. In 1664, Maryland enacted a law which criminalized such marriages.

    ok.. fine.. what is the number and such and where can we read that law?

    the bans in Virginia and Maryland were established at a time when slavery was not yet fully institutionalized. At the time, most forced laborers on the plantations were indentured servants, and they were mostly white. Some historians have suggested that the at-the-time unprecedented laws banning interracial marriage were originally invented by planters as a divide-and-rule tactic after the uprising of servants in Bacon’s Rebellion. According to this theory, the ban on interracial marriage was issued to split up the racially mixed, increasingly mixed-race labor force into whites, who were given their freedom, and blacks, who were later treated as slaves rather than as indentured servants. By outlawing interracial marriage, it became possible to keep these two new groups separated and prevent a new rebellion.

    as occam has pointed out, the lynching records start right after the democratic mass slaughters and mutilations of hayes tilden

    but note… what was happening was indentured white servants were marrying and having relationships with black servants… the democrats of the plantation men, didn’t want their slaves to mix, and their children get smarter… (as they saw it)

    About the best you can do to find the text is to do a big search and hunt it down.. but in this case, given Mississippi, you can look to who was in power at that time in 1880..

    Three republicans were elected between 1817 and 1992…
    James L. Alcorn 1870
    Ridgley C. Powers 1871
    Adelbert Ames 1874

    So the laws to bar mixed marriages in Mississippi were DEMOCRATS
    John M. Stone March 29, 1876 January 29, 1882
    [you will find that wiki craps out on democratic history on the southern era of this time!]
    John Marshall Stone (April 30, 1830— March 26, 1900) was an American politician from Mississippi who served longer as Governor of that state than anyone else, from 1876 to 1882 and again from 1890 to 1896.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Stone

    So HE was the man who was present when the first law was made, and he was the governor when they changed the constitution of the state to include it.

    Its understandable that his wiki is almost empty…
    Do a search on Google: “John Marshall Stone” miscegenation – 3 results

    The whole of that history is completely scrubbed.
    In fact, most people don’t notice that the laws were targeted to mulattos

    By the way, if they weren’t already marrying and having babies, where did the mulattos come from?

  11. END

    You look at the list of senators and its much the same..
    Republican ames, pease, and bruce, are followed by democrat James Z George 1881 -1897… go to his wiki, and again… sparse and scrubbed.

    From 1881 until his death, George represented Mississippi in the United States Senate, where he was recognized for his skills in debate, helped frame the future Sherman Anti-Trust Act, introduced the bill for agricultural college experiment stations, and encouraged the establishment of the Department of Agriculture. He also served as a member of the Mississippi Constitutional Convention of 1890 and successfully defended the constitution before the Senate and the Supreme Court.

    They reference info on him from a site called the political graveyard…

    But wiki has NO information on that convention the link is red…
    Way before this left liberals would have given up…

    But the reason for the scrubbing is easy to see

    In 1875, after ten years of Republicans in Mississippi joining forces with blacks, scalawags, and carpetbaggers, resulting in what many white Mississippians referred to as negro rule, it was apparently decided, according to Dunbar Rowland, that the negro has proven himself unworthy of suffrage, and it should be taken from him.

    Following an apparently very bloody revolution in which whites took back control (in theory), 15 years of intimidation passed, during which according to James George as printed in the Jackson Clarion Ledger, the method of preserving white supremacy was never entirely satisfactory. Isaiah Montgomery, in his speech during the 1890 convention, described these years in terms of every form of [political] demoralization [for blacks]-bloodshed, bribery, [and] ballot stuffing.

    So.. BECAUSE blacks did NOT vote the way the democrats wanted them to, and voted in republicans… the democrats who had solid rule before that, wanted it back, and so murdered thousands of them… made laws to forbid them marriage, and attempted to remove their ability to vote… (ergo hayes tilden)

    Although the convention took place under the pretext of, according to Rowland, eliminating ignorance at the ballot box, it was in fact a move to lawfully disenfranchise a majority of black voters by using a poll tax and a literary test in order to establish franchise qualification. According to estimates by Montgomery, the new State Constitution would disenfranchise 11,889 whites and 123,334 blacks in Mississippi. The Cleveland Gazette hoped the unconstitutional and un-American action would be prevented or at least delayed a few years, but it was not to be.

    You can see here where Obama sort of learned of why they had the literary test, but you can also see that he doesn’t know, or willfully lies as to which party it was!

    For his part, and against what would perhaps be expected of a white Mississippian, Marsh Cook, according to an online PBS history of Jim Crow, took a stand against the principles of the gathering delegation and courageously challenged the Democrats for a seat to the Constitutional Convention in spite of death threats.

    Isaiah Montgomery went the way of appeasement but that of couse failed.

    Both men failed. Marsh Cook was ambushed and murdered on a lonely road. The Cleveland Gazette hoped that his murder, being that of a respectable white gentleman, would cause the federal government to take the necessary steps to protect the American citizen at home, be his color what it may. It did not. Montgomery’s hopes of racial cooperation also did not materialize. He was lambasted by the Cleveland Gazette, which called his defense of the monstrous franchise provision…a disgrace to the race and to our civilization, and wished he had never been born. For all of their objections, however, Mississippi, and the rest of the South, as many other states followed suit, plunged itself headfirst into a half-century of legal disenfranchisement and discrimination.

  12. I read the book several years for a book club. Not that good.

    Since the birth of Rebecca’s son Tenzin, her mother has not spoken to her because she dared to “question her ideology.”

    And we thought the lefties were oh so TOLERANT of differing points of view. This is like a parent cutting off a child who leaves the parent’s church. My Okie fundamentalist grandmother regretted that her children and grandchildren did not belong to her church. However, she maintained cordial, loving relations with her family members who had left her church. Rather unlike Alice Walker.

    Apparently the title of an Alice Walker book was the source of one of Obama’s oft-rembered lines from the 2008 campaign:We Are the Ones We Have Been Waiting for: Inner Light in a Time of Darkness. [2006] Obama wasn’t being goofy; he was simply making a literary reference.

  13. Artfldgr,

    HZ is indeed a running dog lackey of the cult of Stalin-Mao-Castro-Pol Pot-Yada-Yada. I think we all know that.

    “And we thought the lefties were oh so TOLERANT of differing points of view.”

    No one who has paid attention to the hard left believes this to be true. However, for many on the soft left, it is true… at least in my experience. I paint with a narrow brush. 😉

  14. Oh, so it’s just a headline grabbing stunt, this public hissy about a new Hebrew translation, plus an opportunity to demonstrate her right-thinking in front of her oh-so-liberal buddies. Noted – I hope the Blaze story is followed up on by other reporters, but I’m not holding my breath.
    I remember reading about Alice Walker’s estrangement from her daughter a couple of years ago; I think the daughter had given an interview about it, and I felt so sorry for her. From the interview, AW sounded like a perfectly awful mother – self-centered and too busy striking poses and being the public intellectual to actually buckle down and be an attentive, loving parent.
    I tried reading “Purple” myself … got about half a chapter in and thought ‘yuck’ and put it back on the shelf. I have found it a good rule for judging contemporary literature; avoid anything that Oprah has lauded.

  15. Walker made Oprah. Oprah made Hitler, oops, Obama. The importance of culture.

  16. Curtis,

    Comparing anyone to Hitler is to demean the utterly incomprehensible nature of the evil that was the 3rd Reich. BHO is not Hitler. Yes, BHO is a dangerous, narcissistic punk with delusions of grandeur out the yin-yang. But BHO eats dog for lunch and Hitler would feed BHO to his dog. Respectfully, don’t go down that rather leftist road of comparing your ideological opponents to Adolf.

  17. Even humourously?

    Okay.

    Reinhold Heydrick.

    no, no, wait.

    JFK!

    You make a good point. I’ll observe it. But Nixon is way too good to compare Obama to. I think you have to say something like double the worst of composite Carter, Wilson, Clinton and Nixon.

    However, and seriously, (and Artfldgr will back me up on this) there are many parallels and striking similarities in the lives of Obama and Hitler, especially the sense of “otherness” and the crafted public character and the failed artist/author. Although I’d give Hitler higher marks as both an artist and author.

  18. “Even humorously?”

    Yes, even to make funny it is not funny to compare the sad sack likes of BHO to Hitler. BHO is a villain without a doubt, but on a scale of 1 to 10 BHO barely reaches a 3 compared to Adolf. (IMO)

    I think of BHO as combining the worst of Wilson and Carter with a chip on his shoulder the size of Daley Plaza. Were he not president, but instead a crazy vagrant on the street, BHO would be an object of scorn or at best pity. As president he is the worst since Wilson who was a fascist sympathizer that thankfully did not manage to remain cognizant enough to do further damage during his second term at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. WW made the abuses of FDR possible. And along with Teddy, WW created the modern day ‘progressive’ movement.

    I wish a terrible pox and a plague of locust upon the heads of all ‘progressives’ and may all their children be born sterile.

  19. Like you Neo, I never finished _The Color Purple_, and maybe I will but — Walker always struck me as saccharine and simplistic as a prose stylist. Too agenda driven, definitely.

    However, when I heard her speak say on “Charlie Rose” she appeared quietly serene and very “good”. How that image of her was shaken for me by Rebecca Walker’s article (which must have been in support of her memoir) about her life with her mother and how her mother was so upset about being a grandmother (!) that she ended the relationship, which was tenuous to begin with. Alice struck me then as narcissistic (possibly even pathologically so) and definitely fanatic at the expense of real people (her daughter). I was disappointed, but I have been disappointed a lot in the recent past by the left.

    Any way, the one good thing I think Alice Walker has done is her work against FGM, as far as I know, that is still laudatory. However, the rest?

    And, this latest stunt with Israel is just shameful. But, again, so many on the far left are doing this sort of thing, “boycotting” Israel. And, yes, it is odd since the Arab world is not exactly progressive in its treatment of women or gays, or also – black people. I do worry that this whole “Israel Apartheid” meme is just getting started and that otherwise decent people will be roped in. Alice Walker, IMHO, is not entirely a “decent’ person, but she is an influential one (women have altars to her apparently) and so, this is just another bad sign of the times.

  20. >>>>> On the left, however, ironies tend to abound.

    Neo, this is in the same vein as saying the Pacific Ocean is wet.

  21. >>>> Rebecca has learned that she was cut out of her mother’s will in favor of a distant cousin

    This, too, is a “Pacific is wet” behavior of lefties: “There is no possible legitimate point of view but my own. All others are held only by those who are evil incarnate”.

    Lefties would have a defacto bloody religious war over the secular equivalent of how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.

  22. >>>> BHO barely reaches a 3 compared to Adolf. (IMO)

    But there’s still time!

    If Iran gets nukes, and then nukes Israel, then the resulting body count of dead Jews could certainly be in similar territories. Granted, President Downgrade’s part in such a body count would less direct, but there’s no question his hand would be well in it.

    I’m not sure what the proper course against Iran is, but I’d have been willing to place good money against the tack Gomer took.

    I think Gomer could probably improve his number to at least a 6…

  23. This sort of thing is a PR stunt designed to reestablish one’s importance–what have you done since “Purple” which was a long time ago?–and one’s lefty creds.
    I don’t wish people ill–not above, say, half the people in the world, maybe–but I do like to contemplate the picture of a weekly deposit of western lefties in batches of ten thousand into Gaza or the West Bank, or the remote ‘stans, with no organization backing them up and no way to get out for, I dunno, a month.
    Picture Aubrey asking in wide-eyed innocence, “This isn’t what you wanted? This isn’t what you thought was such a great place? Okay. Next stop Israel. Or Oklahoma.”

  24. Yes, BHO is a dangerous, narcissistic punk with delusions of grandeur out the yin-yang. But BHO eats dog for lunch and Hitler would feed BHO to his dog. Respectfully, don’t go down that rather leftist road of comparing your ideological opponents to Adolf.

    that is unless that comparison is really apt.
    ie. if you want to hide and negate the rise of such, then you call everyone that. it neutralizes the argument and comparisons and we develop a schema in which anyone like that would have a free walk. ie. if hitler were GENETICALLY cloned (not SOCIALLY cloned) and the boys from Brazil being possible, such would have no problem stepping up to the podium.

    What you have to realize, which i think no one does yet (or few). is the methodology of where the left operates from and gets its ideas from.

    i said its very important to know what inspires the other. what gives them the inventions that then lead to success, and a endless arms race. now you may think that it is ideology, but that is not the purpose of ideology. ideologies purpose is the framework, while HISTORY is the petri dish.

    Hitler is the ONLY clear example of converting a capitalist modern society to communism/fascism/socialism.

    they copy… their social improvements are little more than mass experiments. you may rail as to the outcomes and complain that it was obvious or that the outcome wasnt good for people.

    but that’s like mice complaining that the researchers aren’t paying enough attention to them. duh. break out of that and you might realize that the OUTCOMES are noted and other things are noted.

    for instance… Genocide… the Germans took the direct path, as did Stalin, but Stalin never lost so his closets remained mostly closed and the west could preserve its ego by pretending not to look, or care.

    the soviets in 1917 came up with all kinds of new ways to live and social laws, like no fault divorce, progressive feminism, etc. they were trying to out progressive the progressives.

    ie. they saw the progressives as the ones who would lead the path in the US and they then tried to beat them to the end result.

    but no fault divorce, abortion on demand, redistribution, mass immigration, free love, socialized medicine, etc… didnt lead to the outcomes that they thought going in. but being pragmatic, they changed their IMPLEMENTATION, but not the goal

    “They remove the cause, but not the symptom” to quote rocky horror.

    but they realized that if they were stupid enough to assume the end result of this idea is good, and they took it up zealously like a dehydrated man drinking water with arsenic in it, then perhaps its useful.

    This is why when they changed their direction, they then pushed to put those things in the US.

    ie. you may rail and think obama was giving away the stuxnet virus info. but if you knew hackers like i do and was, you would know that there are THREE points and two types of machines to work on if you want to hack

    one is hacking software…
    the purpose of hacking software is to change the behavior of hardware in some way.

    hardware being one of the two machine types that can be hacked, and you hack it with software.

    you can also hack “wetware”

    The term wetware is used to describe the embodiment of the concepts of the physical construct known as the central nervous system (CNS) and the mental construct known as the human mind. It is a two-part abstraction drawn from the computer-related idea of hardware or software.

    so what is the “software” to control the “hardware” in this case?

    ideas, advice, and so on.

    in a computer or hardware, you deliver software by hooking up to the machine, or in the case of viruses you deliver the program by methods of self replication and other adaptations from parasitical world.

    in wetware, you deliver the ideas as books and periodicals. you get the software to be implemented by repeating it over and over till its incorporated. this is the idea of tabula rasa, the blank slate. which is not true, as these wetware programs get the end result you want, but leaves dysfunctional people that cant be repaired without letting them know they have been given a social version of a stuxnet virus for 70 years or so.

    so they copy…
    they are not clever or inventive, but observant and sneaky… producers are clever and inventive, parasites are observant and sneaky. their efficiency comes from not being complete themselves (ergo inducing narcissism and such in the population to make more parasites over producers).

    now a far as your comment as to eating dog.

    I was going to eat dog the last time i was in Indonesia, but we had not the time. Dog is a delicacy. to use it the way you did, was to defame most of Asia because you deservedly don’t like this man who lived there for a short time.

    for a pretty good guy who thinks, that wasn’t your best moment (but as Dilberts author says, everyone is not bright sometimes!!! present company included)
    [edited for length by n-n]

  25. Although I’d give Hitler higher marks as both an artist and author.

    i had to make one more comment…

    Thats funny!!!!!! 🙂

  26. Oh

    comparing the napoleon before his history, to the napoleon as emperor of France is what you are doing comparing the wacky racialist socialist despotic Austrian with the wacky racialist socialist despotic president who is starting his journey, while you know the end of the other.

    the movie is just starting, all you been experiencing is the act 1 and II, you have yet to see III, IV… or even considering that the idea is to knock out one, to put a dumber person in place before starting a fight.

  27. At 21 I moved from Boston to Southern Mississippi in 1964. What an eye opener. Open racism, two water fountains, three bathrooms at gas stations, signs restricting access for blacks. But suprisingly the people themselves got along. I’m not trying to defend it, what I’m saying is white and blacks in the South would talk and laugh and spend time together without any sign of racism. It was there and I know blacks had to walk a tightrope but for the most part it was a fairly normal life. There were surely poor blacks who lived poor lives but the same was true for whites. I have been back to the deep South many times and it is so much better. The younger generation rid themselves of those racist beliefs and stereotypes and life for everyone is better. But the odd/sad part is today the tables are turned. The racism is by blacks against whites. Rapes, assaults, robbery by blacks against whites is out of control and it IS a result of racism pure and simple. The media won’t report on it unless it is so egregious that they cannot cover it up. But rape is pandemic and whites don’t dare go downtown in larger cities after dark. It is 100 times worse then the old South.

  28. The personal is political. For lefties, it seems to be only political. Lotta hate, little love. Bummer to be them.

  29. I will never understand why these radical blacks are such Jew-haters. The Jews were so strongly supportive of civil rights that they ought to be grateful; instead you get bigoted jerks like Jesse Jackson calling New York “Hymietown.”

    Unreal.

  30. Oh, and you didn’t miss anything by not reading the rest of the book: the ocean was that salty all the way across. . . no need to swim it.

  31. “But the odd/sad part is today the tables are turned. The racism is by blacks against whites. Rapes, assaults, robbery by blacks against whites is out of control and it IS a result of racism pure and simple. The media won’t report on it unless it is so egregious that they cannot cover it up. But rape is pandemic and whites don’t dare go downtown in larger cities after dark. It is 100 times worse then the old South.”

    Yep. Off the charts bad.

  32. GoneWithTheWind
    your missing the fact that those fountains and rules were created by the few to impose on the many, and that what you were seeing is the many not care.

    this was true of the times of hayes tilden and why the progressive democrats who ruled the south with an iron fist imposed this.

    here is something to clue you in on. the sitting at the back of the bus thing was an attack on the bus companies. it created a law that in effect deputized bus drivers as law officers to enforce it!!!!

    the law was not enforced by police officers who stopped buses to check who was sitting where.

    since they used the drivers as proxies, the blacks and others didnt get angry at the politicians in state, they got angry at the white bus drivers and the white race, who as you found out, dont care much.

    same with tuskegee syphilis, it was funded by wealthy progressives. there was no nih then. but we blame the white government for that, not the progressive..

    same with highlander school, which taught rosa parks how to protest and became the other side in the fake play of the oppressive white bus companya nd the blacks. with socialist politicain on one side, and activist on the others side… and the public shammed in between.

    highlander was shut down for faking southern racism and so creating it in reality!

    why? becasue by using social engineering and manipulation they created a false cause that by today would have died out!!! without that cause what are the dems and progressives? withotu women hating their mates, what are the progressives? without gays hating non gays, what are the progressives?

    their whole castle is built on the hate that they pretend they are going to fix.

    but that is the purpose of the jewish and white scape goat. they are the ons to blame, so whe the politicao makes these people they pretend to serve squeel with the permission of the owners of these groups (feminist leaders, race leaders, etc) permitting policey to make them squeel. they keep going back to the politicaos and giving them omore power to stop the pain the scape goat is causing.

    so, the Germans said… your pain is caused by the reparations… but also your pain is caused by Jewish and christian capitalists, who are a small part of the population but have all the best jobs. (note no one wanted those jobs in history and thought they were filthy!)

    using the argument of disparate impact the fascists directed the harm of their policies to the people to the jews as scapegoats, and others.

    the worst the state made it, the more the scape goat was hated, the less children they had, the more affirmative action was given to the German who was not Jewish..

    all this we have here already.
    in fact, we have duplicated the nazi programs to a T under other means and names.

    the new rationing along political lines in healthcare is Acton T4.. the eugenics program, and for the same reason.

    but if you label the players wrong, you wont see the reason. if you say, Jews, Germans, Christians, etc. you aren’t getting the essential labels and such.

    let me explain and i hope it hits home

    if yhou focus so close that you see the jews, gypsies, germans, etc.. you will say.. but here they are not going after jews (but miss directly), we are not german. there are no fascist costumes, and so on.

    but is THAT the essentials of the process?

    now.. what if you call the favored the Volk, and the unfavored the scapegoats.

    now… all the targets fit into one bag in which they are not the ones doing the thing they are being blamed for. they also are being given genocide by this process.

    the Volk are who the fascist state favors. now you can parallel them

    in germany the volk were the people being bribed and turned against the scapegoats so that the proper accountability would be deflected to the false target.

    this is what made the evil so evil… the more evil it was, the more the scapegoat suffered, not the evil. so there was nothing to stop the evil at all until much later.

    today the Volk are Women, Blacks, Minorities, Gays, The mentally crippled, the incomplete from our schools, etc.

    all of them were not in the past part of the system of choice because they are easily bribed.

    ie. women werent in poltiics because you can easily bribe them. people of race who are being exterminated by abortion, replacing the smart members with dumber members, see a decline and accept the scapegoat theory as their ego will not let them accept the empirical.

    in this way, each of these groups are not good ot have in politics as they are going to be what outside will target to destroy the society they are a part of. ergo you can go back to the 1800s and read the social ideas of doing that. but cant today (would you tell your opponent what they are doing wrong when your winning?)

    so the Volk are being bribed to their own doom, and its all couched in positive ways, and intents… so that negative outcomes are ignored. its also couched in feelings so that reason doesnt come in.

    this is why the germans didnt think about how the jews could be such. they didnt think about how hard they worked, that they focused on education, that they were honorable because they believed in god and feared god not man, and so on.

    they forgot the humanity in the other the minute they were told they were being cheated and were equal and so there was the proof in the outcome even if you couldnt find it.

    well..
    we already have the shoa
    and its hard for me to even show it

    imagine if there was a shoa II but the people were too dense to know..
    [edited for length by n-n]

  33. But the odd/sad part is today the tables are turned. The racism is by blacks against whites.

    no they havent… and THATS What you dont get.

    you are working off of old definitions. but the language and the reasons and such have changed, and you didnt.

    ie. when an oppressor attacks the oppressed, that is oppression and evil

    when the oppressed attacks the oppressors that is justice

    so is it racism for them to attack whites, or is it social justice?

    was it racism for germans to attack the jews, or was that social justice?

    i been trying to clue you guys into this game
    and all most have been doing is telling me there is no game.

    but note, each of these things i have told you the principal that explains them.

    and by the way…
    the blacks doing this under this new definition are doing it because they are GOOD, not bad.

    ie… if the defiitinos didnt change, and the idea of their position wasnt defined from a point of race, would they act this way?

    thats social engineering…

    using the good of people and framing things in a lie, to change conciousness and get the robots to act.

    its how you program people.

    but remember, the first programs you give them is the program to deny the ability to listen to someone tell them how to be a programmer not a robot.

    all robots must be trained to reject the information that would make them human and remove the control of the (social) programmers

    now… does anyone want to actually learn the game from the programmers side?

    you cant get there from the robots side any more than your computer at your desk can sit and have coffee with you as an equal.

    ie. its a tool, you dont sit with tools, you use tools.

    when your a useful idiot, your a tool you don’t respect tools, you use them up and cast them away… (in this case you kill them because the screwdriver may come back on its own legs)

    i have been trying to teach how they program, and the tools been telling me they don’t need that they are not programed.

    who told you?

    the people doing the programming?

  34. by the way

    at the core the game is always the same

    you dont change, you never change
    the context aroudn you is change so that you naturally make a choice that is good in that context.

    ie. your always trying to make good choices

    so thats why people join and leave… they dont change… but the context cant always be maintained… especially agasinst skeptics and people who dont like to take bad advice.

    those become enemies along with the other scapegoats under the bus

    narcisism makes neo look to herself and ask, what is wrong with me that i was with that, or so on

    but she forgets that what she was with was the image of that being presented, the fals program. not what it actually was.

    when she found out what it actually was, she then gravitated to what she actually wanted.

    nothing changed but the context around her.

    thats why the matrix movies resonate. the batteries don’t change, the environment presents a false image to control them.

    the matrix is the media and the one way nature of it. it no longer loops through the culture and back, it dictates the culture and ignores the feedback.

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