It was Palin vs. Palin
From an astute commenter at Hot Air:
We all know this was not the Palin/Biden debate. This was the Palin/Palin debate. Everybody who tuned into this thing, whether liberal, moderate or conservative were tuned in to see which candidate Sarah Palin handed the live hand grenade to, Obama or McCain. As usual nobody gived a rats a** what nonsense spewed from Biden’s cakehole. Nobody will remember a thing he said. All that will be remembered is Palin pulled this off dazzlingly. She left practically zero room for MSM critisism. The incompetence theme is going to be difficult for them to pursue after that performance she just gave. Just a quick dance around the internet I see an attempt to push a theme about her being an “attacker”. Uh huh. So the little girl was picking on poor experienced big Joe Biden. Ooookay, we’ll see how that theme turns out for you. She honestly left them nothing to work with.
Oh, but they’ll do their best.
Yes they will do their best because, as we know,
“Rust never sleeps.”
And what a sweet relief it is!
The first thing I heard Olberman say, talking to the Gov? of Hawaii, was she didn’t answer the questions, do you think that is an acceptable tactic?
WhhhaaaaTTTT!!?
Hasn’t he ever watched Hillary – and Bill – Clinton? they were infuriating and notorious, masters of just switching on to the talking points and completely ignoring the question…
I was laughing!
That – and they are saying. well, she was obviously coached – ignoring that of course, Obama prepped for what? A week?
Maybe that’s it – prepped v coached – all in the characterization.
Honestly Ifill just let things roll. I was fine with the two candidates just talking about whatever; they could’ve gone Lincoln-Douglass with no moderator at all. Probably would’ve been way better; it’s good to be able to ask questions of your opponent.
“Peter the Alaskan Kid”: are you the young self-identified “Socialist” I’ve seen around the net?
She honestly left them nothing to work with.
Oh, but they’ll do their best.
As surely as day follows night.
Or is it vice versa? 😉
Biden bringing up how we can’t fight in Afghanistan AND Iraq at the same time, had me begging for her to hit him with..”Presidents and Armys have to be able to do more than one thing at a time”.
Oh well. She did great.
I had to turn it off after the first question, so given the reviews I can only assume she got better.
Allow me to explain: I like her, I think she is very good for the Republican Party, and I wanted her to do well. But at least with regards to the first question, I noted two things:
– her presence was awful. She looked and sounded very nervous. It’s not as if she has to public speaking experience, so I’m not sure why she sounded like a high school freshman lecturing an auditorium full of MIT seniors, but I didn’t see her as being comfortable in her role. I can’t see her at a diplomatic negotiating table if she can’t get a handle on the quivering voice and deer-in-the-headlights look.
– She conceded the completely and inarguably wrong Biden contention that the entire financial meltdown is solely a result of eight years of Bush economics. To allow that to stand unchallenged is not good debating, and it is not good campaigning, and it is not good leadership, and it is not good politics.
The VP candidate is the one that should be standing up to those kinds of inane comments from the opponent, and I was disgusted that her “answer” did not include a reference to the Dodd/Obama/Frank/Biden/Clinton contribution to the entire mess.
Talk about double standards applied to women! Before the debate, Palin was going to sink McCain on the spot if she die poorly. Immeidately following the debate, one of the first things I heard from a male pundit was, “this debate of course will not decide the election”. LOL! Even my brother who has always voted a Democratic ticket said Palin is not being treated fairly. It’s way more than mere politics at play here. Look at the way Hillary was trashed, real sexism at play and not a peep of oppostion about it from the ranks of the Democrats. The same sh** is coming down on Palin!
Gov. Palin’s best line was when she spoke to the basic difference between the platforms of the parties. Saying that there could be a time in the future when we are old and describe for our grandchildren and great grandchildren a time “when there was freedom in America”. Many people sense that loss of freedom already and see more intrusive big government solutions only speeding us on our way toward giving up what free choice we have today. I believe that she embraces the values of getting the government off the backs of the citizens even more that Senator McCain. The Democrats cannot understand this basic American value much less place it above their central planning agenda to legislate “fairness” for all.
I’m in stark agreement with, well, Stark. I believe that a large share of the conflict and rancorous arguments over just who should be in charge of our government arises from the fact that we have too damned much government. When the government is deeply involved in even the most intimate and private aspects of our lives, it is only natural that feelings run quite strongly.
I fully believe that our government should be pared down to the essence of what government should be: the provider of infrastructure for the common good, by which I mean roads, power infrastructure, and national defense. Certainly there is room in there for a degree of control over morality (slavery, equality in voting, etc.), but there is no place for social engineering and determining/enforcing so-called “fairness” in every aspect of our lives.
Palin’s Debate Flow Chart:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2909496470_d751e8a3dc.jpg?v=0
Joe Biden’s flow chart: Blame Bush. Still not 90 seconds, and besides which Bush ain’t running? Make shite up.
I had to turn it off after the first question, so given the reviews I can only assume she got better.
i did the same thing!!!
i coudlnt bear watching after that since she didnt correct anyones impressions or antyhing but went with her own version of the greed meme and never mentioned CRA, etc.
[one author said that they may have tested it out, and saw that the truth wouldnt fly at all, so decided against it. but i dont know… so far when such has popped up, its gone over good, since the majority of americans are not socialists (but seem so since they have lots of empathy)]
Artfldgr: This was part of Palin’s answer to the first question:
Now, John McCain thankfully has been one representing reform. Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell.
People in the Senate with him, his colleagues, didn’t want to listen to him and wouldn’t go towards that reform that was needed then.
Obviously a decision has been made by McCain that he will not attack the Democrats on this, so it was as far as Palin was allowed to go. I hope that they will unleash a more aggressive attack and truth-telling push on the Democrat role in setting up the crisis now that the bill has been signed in both houses. But I wonder.