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  1. I fear that nothing can be done. There is no legal consequence and the MSM will protect them even from public censure.

  2. I don’t think it’ll go anywhere either. As bad as it smells (really bad) I don’t think what Obama did (or didn’t do) was illegal. The DEA, FBI, DOJ, CIA, etc. all fall under the Executive Branch and the POTUS is their boss. He can start or stop or slow any investigation he desires, the same way Trump can legally fire Mueller (though, as many have pointed out, would be political suicide).
    The good news is that because Congress is investigating it will be difficult for the left leaning media to ignore. Though, I’m sure they will try.
    FYI for MollyNH – atheists are scattered all over the political spectrum.

  3. I have a $50 bet with my wife that absolutely nothing will happen to any Dem over any of the stuff going on. That included Lerner, Clapper, Clinton, Lynch, Holder, Rice, and any of the FBI.

  4. Here’s my take on it:

    Sharks don’t eat sharks, lawyers don’t sue lawyers, and politicians don’t destroy other politicians. Professional courtesy, they call it. That explains Comey’s explanation a year and a half ago that no rational prosecutor would try to bring charges against Hillary. Not because she didn’t break the law, but because there’s different standards for thee and me.

    HOWEVER, Trump is not a politician. He has demonstrated that reality time and time again, to the chagrin of the NYTimes and WashPost. So, will he go after Hillary, Comey, Holder, Abedin, Susan Rice, Power and a few others? I think there’s better than an even chance he will. There is certainly a better than even chance of Trump doing so that a President Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz or Mario Rubio. Those guys know the unwritten rules.

    The one thing I’ll concede right now: Trump will not go after Obama. Professional courtesy, but also hoping a President Cory Booker or Elizabeth Warren will return the favor when they’re elected.

  5. F:

    Beg to differ, regarding professional courtesy. Capos kill other Capos, Stalin disappeared millions. Power and ruthlessness isn’t restrained by professional courtesy, probably all a risk calculation, who is weaker.

    Ben Rhodes is still unavaliable for comment, although the did “tweet” about republican leaders “RIP” yesterdsy.

  6. I don’t think Trump will hold Obama accountable either. I do think it highly likely that if the next President is a democrat, they will go after Trump with everything they have… they will seek to destroy him.

    Remember the dialectic of the Left;
    “When I am the weaker, I ask you for mercy because that is your principle. But when I am the stronger, I show no mercy because that is my principle.”

    The Left will settle for nothing less than the complete emasculation of anyone who disagrees with them. Totalitarian ideologues do not willingly share power. As they cannot, all “isms” of the left are unsustainable and thus inherently coercive.

  7. I am afraid that all comments are on target, in particular that of GB.

    I don’t think that Trump is as ruthless as some believe, and others wish. Otherwise Mueller would be unemployed; Hillary and her accomplices would be under indictment; and denizens of the Swamp would be scuttling toward bolt holes.

  8. I suspect that Franken is resigning because of party pressure, so he can be replaced with a more electable Democrat, prior to the next election.

    After his recent disgrace he might well lose an election to a Republican, and that would be unacceptable. Maintaining power is always the first priority.

  9. F Says:
    December 21st, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    The one thing I’ll concede right now: Trump will not go after Obama. Professional courtesy, but also hoping a President Cory Booker or Elizabeth Warren will return the favor when they’re elected.

    Geoffrey Britain Says:
    December 21st, 2017 at 8:37 pm
    I don’t think Trump will hold Obama accountable either. I do think it highly likely that if the next President is a democrat, they will go after Trump with everything they have… they will seek to destroy him.
    * *
    We now have a testable proposition, suitable for submitting to the Scott Adams Prognostication Test mentioned on another thread.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/12/22/determine-talk-politics-public/

    Hope (of Professional Courtesy) might spring eternal, but my money is on Geoffrey’s pragmatism about reciprocity for generosity.
    However, my suspicion is that Trump will pass on prosecuting Obama, not out of PC/1 — he is neither professional nor particularly courteous — but because of PC/2 – the politically correct POV of the majority of media, government, and academia will stifle (with Iowahawk’s proverbial pillow) any attempt to tarnish the halo of The Hallowed One.

  10. For the soccer fans on the thread, I predict the harshest we can expect from this investigation is the showing of a yellow card to President Obama.

    Now, for all those deep state types that are still in positions of power and influence, I would be surprised if Trump doesn’t use this to push them out.

  11. Hah, maybe he will. I think he’s still hoping that his fundraising prowess will cause them to come on their knees, begging him not to go. That’s a pretty significant factor when so many Dem senators have to defend seats.

    Meanwhile we have a constitutional crisis in the land. The Republican senate majority leader becomes Lt. Gov. But she says she will not resign her senate seat (because control of that body is very tight). The senate’s lawyer says it’s okay, she can do both. The Democrat attorney general says, nope, can’t do that. Considering the governor is a rich, neurotic ne’er-do-well with both mental and physical issues (he’s passed out in public twice) it could be a significant issue.

  12. I also think that Obama will go free. Not because Trump wants to spare him, but because a lot of stuff that you or I might get jailed for is more or less legal if the prez decides it should be done. He puts the “sovereign” in sovereign immunity.

  13. @doug purdie, I am aware that atheists exist in each political spectrum my comment was directed that it takes a unique denial of a Creator to behead a thinking, breathing , unique in all of Creation person. Not even their esteemed Allah can be pleased by something so henious. Atheists deny consequences, there is no retribution they fear.

  14. Americans refused to hate the President, so they had to have a surrogate like Trum to get them to hate the President of the US.

    But down that road is not nationalism.

    When it is easy to hate one President of the US, it becomes even more easy to be disillusioned with the System to which it stands.

  15. HOWEVER, Trump is not a politician.

    Apparently he is not the US President either, as HRC still isn’t in jail.

    Trum’s backers are going to have egg and crow pie on their face still, so long as Trum avoids the HRC being in prison issue.

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