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  1. IMO, no need to read and definitely no need to know anything beyond KSM deserved to be dragged out of court before a firing squad.

  2. What KSM revealed should be common knowledge among citizens who give a damn about their country. Unfortunately, few will read and heed the lessons to be learned.

    Thanks for the link, Neo. I will be reading the book.

  3. If I read the piece correctly, KSM sang like a bird, leading lectures on terrorist techniques after enhanced interrogations, aka waterboarding.

  4. The problem is that the Marxists will claim that “torture” will make a person say anything they think the interrogator wants to hear. Therefore, not a word of it can be believed.

    And, of course, the Marxists define torture much more liberally (what else?) than real people – sleep deprivation, bad language, insulting their mother, blasphemy against Allah, pushing them up against a wall, and the infamous “waterboarding”, even with a physician and a lawyer present to make certain nobody really gets hurt.

    Meanwhile, practitioners of the Religion of Peace don’t even think beheading, chopping off limbs, stoning, lashing, breaking bones, and tossing off tall buildings constitutes torture. You see, they are all guilty of defaming Allah/Muhammed/Islam/Koran and deserve everything done to them.

  5. If you want to save money on the book, or at least get a good grounding in what all “mainstream” Muslim organizations plan to do, you can always start with the exhibits and transcripts from the Holy Land Foundation terror funding. They’re free and online. Here’s a good one to start with.

    http://www.clarionproject.org/Muslim_Brotherhood_Explanatory_Memorandum#

    This was written in 1991. It was never supposed to be seen by non-Muslims. This highlight suggests why.

    …“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers…”

    J.J is correct. Everything should be obvious to all Americans by now. But the Islamists have been studying us while shouting “Islamophobe!” if anyone dare study them. Actually they learned that by studying us. They noticed how meekly most of us knuckle under when the gaystapo shouts “Homophobe!” when anyone studies their true agenda. Consequently the LGBQ-whatever crowd could be quite open, even write books or speak in quasi-public fora about how their true agenda; for instance the point of SSM is to destroy marriage.

    But that’s an issue for another day. It’s just a fact that it’s a useful model for the Islamists because their books are quite accessible, too. As are these public documents from the HLF terror funding trial. So CAIR knows they can’t stop anyone from reading all they need to know that CAIR isn’t the civil rights group it poses as. But all they have to do is shout “Islamophobe!” And it also doesn’t hurt to throw in other insults like racist and bigot. And most people will who know the truth will be intimidated into shuttting up. And eventually, and our news media is a good example of this, most people won’t even want to independently know the truth. Because reading is Islamophobic. CAIR insists that if you read their sacred texts and form any other opinion than their official you’re an Islamophobe and a hater.

    ABC’s 20/20’s show where they were going to tell us the twoof about hilarious/pathetic/sad. I think it was Dianne Sawyer, but the reporter was interviewing a femaie Muslim scholar who told her, “In Islam women and men have exactly the same rights and the same responsibilities.”

    And Dianne Sawyer was just unthinkingly eating it up. It never occurred to her to ask anything obvious like, “In Islam men can have up to four wives, how many husbands can you have?” Or, “Why can’t women drive in Saudi Arabia?” Or, “Why do traditional, religious women have to walk around in public wearing a black tent and men don’t?”

    But getting back to , CAIR, it foundation was laid at what was known during the HLF terror funding trial as the Philadelphia meeting (1993). And its purpose isn’t civil rights. It’s purpose is deceit, and the participants make that clear from the start.

    http://www.investigativeproject.org/documents/case_docs/1199.pdf

    The testimony of FBI Special Agent Burns:

    (pp. 98) Q. Agent Burns, during the course of the Philadelphia
    meeting, did the Defendant Shukri Baker talk about providing a
    cover for the meeting?
    A. He did.
    MR. JONAS: If we can put Philadelphia Meeting No.
    3-E page 3, please. Enlarge the top, please.
    Q. (BY MR. JONAS) What does the Defendant Shukri Baker say
    about providing cover for this meeting?
    A. It is when he is talking about the Samah code word, and
    he says, “Please don’t mention the name Samah in an explicit
    manner. We agree on saying it sister Samah.

    Spelling Hamas backwards provides them cover, I guess. Bottom line is they didn’t want any eavesdroppers to know they were talking about doing something for Hamas. Forming an American front group. Again they made that quite clear.

    (pp 99)Q. I am sorry, Agent Burns. Can you read a line above that?
    I apologize.
    A. Yes. It says, “We will form an organization for you to show the Americans that you are — It will be made up of some
    of our people, our beloved ones. And let’s not hoist a large
    Islamic flag, and let’s not be barbaric-talking. We will
    remain a front so that if the thing happens, we will benefit
    from the new happenings instead of having all of our
    organizations classified and exposed….

    (pp 101) Q. In the Elbarasse documents did you see a new organization
    being formed or that was formed after Philadelphia that came
    under the umbrella of the Palestine Committee?
    A. Yes.
    Q. What was that organization?
    A. CAIR, C-A-I-R.

    CAIR was founded in 1994 by three individuals with close ties to the Islamic Association for Palstine (IAP

  6. I guess it’s good I hit the wrong button. I only have a little bit to go, so I’ll just finish. The IAP went out of business in 2004. A federal judge found he IAP and the HLF were found liable in a $156M lawsuit for aiding and abetted Hamas in the West Bank murder of a 17-year-old American citizen named David Boim.

    So the USG and froze their assets and shut them down for providing material support for terrorism.

    Yet here we are twelve years later. CAIR is going strong, getting away with the pretense its a “Civil rights” organization when it really does is what the IAP used to do. It’s now the propaganda arm and recruiting arm of Hamas.

    Just how suicidally stupid are we? This stupid. Under GWB CAIR had a seat at the table. To be fair to W the HLF terror funding trial in which it and a laundry list of MB front groups (page 18 in the Eplanatory Memorandum at the link above). Under Obama, who had no excuse, groups like Hamas have had veto power over foreign policy and, get this, terrorism and counter-terrorism training for our federal law enforcement, intelligence, national security, and military. This is one main reason Obama won’t link Islam to terrorism. The perpetual anti-Reagan Marxist-chic circa 1980 college freshman was already inclined to think the west started all the wars in the world anyway, because, Crusades! But the Islamic terrorists and their front groups that he’s put in charge of this country’s strategic thinking in the Islamic world have confirmed his untutored prejudices were right all along, so he thinks if he ignorantly (he’ll never read that book) helps KSM by doing all the stupid things KSM was always counting on that will bring about world peace.

    just like giving Iran nukes will.

  7. geokstr Says:
    November 29th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
    The problem is that the Marxists will claim that “torture” will make a person say anything they think the interrogator wants to hear. Therefore, not a word of it can be believed.

    It’s also false. Professional interrogators have a neat trick for detecting when the subject just wants to lie and tell the interrogator what he wants to hear. For example, I would ask the subject 9 questions. Six of which I already know the answers to, and which most importantly, I know the subject knows the answers to. So unless the subject answers truthfully on it, which includes “I don’t know”, the subject will be punished the same or more severely than if he simply refuses to talk.

    In this case, people can easily condition and train people to speak the truth, because they have no idea which questions the interrogators already have answers to.

    It’s something people can usually figure out, if they have ever been put into similar positions of authority and power. Unless you work for Hussein’s Regime or are a braindead Leftist, there’s not much cognitive dissonance blocking the resolution if people really thought about it like the way they do about their job.

    The proper counter to Leftists talking about torture is not to shift the subject to Islamic crimes against humanity. It is to use hidden cameras and interviews to expose the Left’s own crimes against humanity, for example Planned Profit.

  8. Steve57 Says:
    November 29th, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    The West is suicidal, has been since after WWI even.

    That is why Americans blame immigrants for their problems. And that is why they want a panacea, a solution, that is easy to understand. What they do not want to understand is that America’s problems are as simple as the neighbor next door, the one who is not an immigrant.

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