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  1. Years ago, a friend sent me that book. I guess I should read it sometime…

  2. It gives you an idea of the quality of the diaries he kept, and their significance to information about the attitude of so-called “ordinary” Germans at the time.

    that should read

    It gives you an idea of the quality of the diaries he kept, and their significance to information about the attitude of so-called moderate nazi’s at the time.

  3. Hilmar von Campe passed away on Monday, June 18th, 2012. He will forever be loved, remembered, and thanked for all the work he has done on this earth to promote truth and freedom.

    http://www.voncampe.com/monthly_articles.html

    lots of stuff like this… Hilmar never stopped / too bad we didnt read him when i suggested him while alive…

    he connects those of the past experience with the current experience… something that the diaries of a past era, and translated, cant do.

    i suggest one out of many, one of the last posts
    Warning for America
    http://www.voncampe.com/monthlyarticles/Warnings%20for%20America%20by%20Hilmar%20von%20Campe.htm

  4. Interesting, Rush talked today about the gradual influence of leftist attitudes reflected in the NFL. From memory, I can’t do justice to what he said.

    The gist was, in so many aspects of American life, we have been slowly deprived of simply enjoying or experiencing something for what it is. Leftist politics has insinuated itself.

    Another example he gave was giving flowers to mothers on mothers day.

    Rush was very calm but there was (to my ears) a somber undertone.

    It is by no means unimaginable that our friends and family, formerly stricken by epistemic closure, might be stroking our hands with tears in their eyes.

  5. Neo Says:
    Although taking pets away to be killed hardly compares in severity to so many of the cruelties perpetrated by the Nazis on Jews and others, it symbolizes the persecutors’ attention to detail and the extreme malice with which they operated. Even such a small comfort was forbidden; they wanted that flag lowered.

    sorry… you have this one wrong neo…

    it has nothing to do with “attention to detail” and “extreme malice”… only somone ignorant of the tenets of ideology would say that, as they wont quote what they dont know, what they dont bother to read, or bother to look up.

    This is a persecution position that stems from lack of understanding or knowlege trying to explain something that they see that does not make sense otherwise.

    ie. you have no idea why they did this, so it must be hate of jews and malice… after all, with the litany of that personalized thing, why bother to look to what they follow and its rules and how those rules are applied in other places.

    Sometimes reading here is like watching a coke bottle fall from the sky in the middle of primitive natives and they try to explain the incident from their perspective and ignorance rather than from knowlege and the whole.

    and there is no excuse as i have posted WHY that is so, and what its about… so this shows that i have little effect and waste my time sharing knowlege, as its instantly replaced with persecution stories and motifs rather than facts…

    its the SAME MENTAL ATTITUDE of a black man who cant speak well, wearing crappy clothes and cant write, going to get a job as a banker… then rather than look at the facts claims that the banker is just racist and mean.

    once one lives in that, one is steeped in the thinking of explaining things through that glass and not looking further… why bother… the germans are mean people, and they were mean to jews, and so on.

    the truth is that they were following the rules of someone else, and applying them to win the promise of what that person or persons claimed would result if such things were accomplished.

    the sad part is that this mode of thinking prevents you from seeing the same outcome here. because its attributed wrongly to meanness, one then ignores the same done in the USA which doesnt have the meanness component… a false but key ingredient…

    and given that it includes facts that have nothing to do with the reasons, well that serves to hide the same in other places when its applied and those same things are not present.

    the idea of breaking eggs is not that we enjoy it like greek plates and yelling opa! its something that is regrettable given that the goals require it, and so its the same this way… has nothing to do with jews… has nothing to do with meanness…

    it has everything to do with executing an ideological plan with key points that have to be fulfilled regardless of jews, gentiles, alien monsters, etc… its pragmatic, and so has no meaness in it. meaness is just what the victims consider to try to make sense out of something incomprehensible to them, and its incomprehensible to them as they dont bother to read the rule book their rulers are using and following to utopian ends.

  6. great the system is blocking the other half of the comment… post it whole, and your scrwed for it being too long… divide it into two psots and your screwed that the second does not make it..

    The chinese communists kill pet dogs and blame rabies… but the truth is that before they relaxed as today, they were following marxist ideas

    the germans were following marxist ideas.

    peta is following marxist ideas

    de blasio and his get rid of the horses in central park is following marxist ideas.

    see the parallels…
    nothing mean in it, its just the recipe they followed

    now, that doesnt mean that people who follow the recipe may not enjoy execution of the design, but its not a requirement, any more than jews are the reason and all that.

    The laws against vivisection were often used as a pretext to prosecute Jewish scientists. In 1940, a discussion was started within the administration about prohibiting pets, in order to conserve foodstuffs for human consumption. But personal interference by Hitler stopped this proposal. Ultimately a decree was published by the administration against pets, but it referred only to the pets in the possession of non-Aryan citizens. On February 15, 1942, a decree was published prohibiting Jews from keeping pets

    is the same take as neo…
    but right under it in discourse…

    Boria Sax argues in his book Animals in the Third Reich: Pets, Scapegoats, and the Holocaust that the Nazis manipulated attitudes towards animal protection to conform to their own symbolic system. Presumably, by equating the National Soc iali st German Workers Party with “nature”, the Nazis reduced ethical issues to biological questions.
    …..
    The Nazi regime disbanded several unoffici al organizations advocating environmentalism and animal protection, such as the Friends of Nature, which was a Marxist environmentalist organization with a membership of over 100,000

    the Friends of Nature was a communist group… not fascist… so it was crushed for communism, not marxism – remember a lot of stuff written tries to separate the soci alism of nazis into a different thing, when if you read marx and all that its not.

    Friends of Nature

    an international movement with a background in the Social Democratic movement, which aims to make nature accessible to the wider community by providing appropriate recreational and travel facilities.
    …..
    The organisation began in Austria in 1895 as Naturfreunde among people associated with the emerging Social Democratic movement who enjoyed outdoor activities and began to build their own huts and overnight chalets. The movement spread and it now has 600,000 members, 3500 groups and runs some 1000 houses mainly in Europe. The houses vary in size and facilities. The International Friends of Nature (IFN), based in Vienna, is the umbrella organisation of the national Friends of Nature federations.

    one of the big problems of reading such diaries is that your missing the other stuff going on and the placement of it. the diary takes such things for granted, and so, unless you study to know the other stuff, the things dont make sense – unless you make up something in ignorance to explain it!

    its real fun to do this with children…
    cause childrens explanations of things is so bad that you see the effect easily, but adults, they are much better at making up stuff that other adults accept whole cloth without knowing…

    the whole conceptual, which those who dont bother to study the ideas of their opposition, is that capitalism makes slaves of everything. man, his wife, his children, the pets, etc.

    so if you want to overthrow capitalism and all that, you have to set these things free…

    and in the jewish question, marx equates capitalism with judaism and the invention of it by jews… the refusal to give up their culture, which contains this invention is another facet of it.

    so to one who knows the ideology and its rules and so on, and things through that, the way that people see through rose colored glasses as a way to tint the world around them (till they dont notice its tinted any more once acclimated), removing the slaves from the slave makers first is fitting. [and it was also an opportunity for the leadership to grant permissions for such things to their own special selections… so its do as i say not as i do]

    In germany it came around through the anti vivisection laws… that is, H Goering made it illegal to experiment on animals, and so on…

    see Regarding Animals / By Arnold Arluke

    his quote:
    In 1933, H Goering anounced and end to the “unbearable torture and suffering in animal experiments” and threatened to “commit to concentration camps those who still thing that they can continue to treat animals as inanimate property”

    quoting the book:
    inconspicuously buried in the 1933 protection laws (point 4, section 2) was a provision for the mercy killing of animnals. the law not only allowed but actually required taht old, sick, worn out domesticated animals for whom live has become a tortment to be painlessly put to death.

    so to the jews who had animals and did not subscribe to the ideology that they think of as an excuse to action that would not normally be allowed, it all seemed mean.

    but to get normal germans to do this, it had to be couched in terms of “feel for the animals, hate the people that do that to them”

    all this is not present in a diary, as the people who may read that diary are epected to know what was going on, and so know what context to put it in…

    we today, we dont bother, we just read and say waht we think… we dont care about the greater whole, the ideology the rules that come from it, the reasoning behind it, and all that…

    you can see this in how they now interpret events with a inane crazy brush which those who know the stuff around it say its nutters… however in 30 years, it wont be nutters as the normal stuff around it falls to the side and all that remains is the smaller piece out of context!

  7. THIS is how the left works to get things done…

    it does not get a gun, and have soldiers march behind the citizenry and force them to act… what it does is get psedudo logical arguments that a weak mind when combined with ignorance cant oppose and so accepts and so accepts those actions which then come full flower out of a budding premise.

    A implies B, which implies C and that leads you to Z

    its easier to see this with the idea of disparate impact and its broken logic… they did not say to blacks, go out and hate whites… what they did was come up with a salable set of broken logic that expresses the premise that once accepted leads to actions that are aligned with the ideologies goals or the leaders needs…

  8. Artfldgr I read your rant twice and still have no idea what you were trying to say. Apparently you have previously posted your thoughts on the roots of National Socialism in Germany, but us new guys don’t know what they are. Please enlighten us further.

  9. in this way, you dont sell na zism, liber alism, comm unism, and give up if not swallowed. what you do is sell false premises that are more easily swal lowed and which contain premises that lead to actions or agency that then when committed creates the equ ivalency needed without the actu al accep tance.

    one has to unde rstand the game in order to comm ent on it… otherw ise to those that know the game, one comes off as a kind of f ool, and often an ignorant fool because there is no way to know what is missing until one is told what is mis sing, and so there is no hole to notice and they wont point it out…

  10. gives them du ping deli ght in th at the ru bes dont get what the g ame is, and are too conf used to do anyt hing about it anymore than a per son who dec ides to sit at a gam bling table to play po ker with their liv es and dont know the rules

  11. that last post was where the problem was…
    now can i get the rest in?

    yeah… this is so much better than a long single post, eh?

    the LAW for jews was made in 1942

    but for more than a decade before it came all the stuff that meanness doesnt explain because the idea is to make them into incomprehe nsible monsters not people with a purpose in ideology. why? cause many jews still love socia dlism, and had to somehow separate the actions that socia lism makes happen from the ideology they favor… in this way, they imagine that the ideology does NOT make this happen, and so when they do it or others do it, it wont happen, and yet, they get to have their cake and eat it too.

    it took almost 10 years of animal welfare laws, papers, conferences and such BEFORE the law that targeted jews was made near the end of the war…

    want to bet that he doesnt detail that history prior to the personal comments? want to bet that the average person knows nothing of these things and so, meanness is a good reason…

    germans are just mean…

    would you say blacks who hate whites in the US are just mean, or that someone sold them some broken logic that to undo would need them to look at themselves rather than blame others?

    scapegoating the other way around does not do anyone a service, and there is little to learn from a diary that does not explain itself as most diaries are written in a contemporary kind of language that takes for granted the surounding stuff that goes with it.

    if you dont know this stuff, then the diary is worse than a history, as all it will do is force you to fill in endless blanks with junk rather than spend time to look up things and learn details..

    this was the difference in learnign from a living person or persons… you can ask questions and they can then give more reasoned answers and point the way to things that make something that seems mean and cruel to be something constructed as the opposite that resulted in mean and cruel things when the premises were expressed…

    ignore the 10 years leading up to 1942, and the outcome is mean, capricious and has no reason other than to be cruel to the targeted people (and ignoring the other half and focusing on the one half makes that easier to do!!). if you dont ignore that, then you will see that SAME evil cruelty that PETA has and expresses and may learn that when they get their way, the victims of the state will think that the reason they ignored for a long time is behind the action that they think is mean.

    its mean to end the horse coaches in central park
    no, its marxism setting horses free from capitalist slavery where the capitalist holds the animal and makes money off of him for his own benefit, just like a human worker in capitalist job.

    i do notice that when non marxists reason, they dont want to see the world thorugh the lens of the people they are thinking about… and end up confused… and when that happens, reasoning goes out and silly aphorisms of mean cruel, etc. are employed as reasonable mental putty to throw into the hole and feel ok about it.

    its the difference between the curious and the incurious… the curious see a hole and want to know what belongs, the incurious ends their question at that point, does not expend more towards the knowing, and throws spackle in the hole declaring much like the boy with a plumb on his thumb, what a good person am i…

  12. One of the regulars at Chicagoboyz reviewed that book, and recommends it highly. I think he quoted the entry about having to put their cat down themselves, rather than let it be taken away and destroyed by strangers.
    Having to put down their beloved pet was such a personal, vengeful, administrative cruelty. Such a small demeaning thing amid all the other endless cruelties administered by the Nazis. But still heartbreaking to read. Everything taken away from you, piece by piece, and not even to have the comfort of a silly old tomcat, because the Reich says so.

  13. The diary said the Nazis passed a law forbidding Jews to own pets, period, just as the Jews were forbidden to use the library.

    Ideology of all sorts is used to implement cruelty of all sorts, if the cruelty can be gotten away with. Inflicting cruelty is justified by the ideology, to the pleasurable delight of those who enjoy cruelty.

    The godlike power of inflicting cruelty without consequence is the sole benefit of ideology for any human being.

    Ideology is the price the ideologist pays to bypass the moral restrictions inhibiting the cruelty.

  14. The example of the SPCA and PETA is a good one. True, they have marxist goals, ideologically driven programs.

    But the ideology is worthless without the personal pleasure gained when demonizing and destroying.

    Ask the crazy cat lady who is treated like garbage, terrorized and deprived of the loves of her life, often to the cheers of the local news, who treat the empty sadists as heroes.

  15. Also in 1942: Blind or deaf Jews no longer allowed to wear armbands identifying their condition in traffic

    Truly, the sadism was nothing short of diabolical.

  16. Would’ve been an interesting thread /discussion if it wasn’t for artdgr’s full throttle blatherfests.

  17. Artfldgr,

    If you can bring yourself to get off your high horse of intellectual superiority for a moment, you might consider that while ideology and intellectual rationalizations and justifications can prepare a people to look the other way, while those they tolerate to rule over them make lamp shades of other people’s skin… to actually make lamp shades of other people’s skin requires emotional malevolence. And even if they bury that malevolence under cold disinterest, it remains the motivation.

    In the aggregate, emotion rules people not intellect. Intellect which most people use in service of their emotional certitudes.

    Hitler and his propaganda machine had, in the 30’s convinced most of the German people that the Jewish ‘conspiracy’ and inherent greed of ‘the Jew’ were responsible for Germany’s inability to recover from the previous war. He offered them a scapegoat that humanity has always favored, ‘the other’.

    Once they accepted the offered rationalizations and justifications, that mind-set awoke the German people’s darkest passions. Just as the Left has and is doing in America today. Only an ideal or idea invested with passion can move the mass of men.

  18. … Just as the Left has and is doing in America today. Only an ideal or idea invested with passion can move the mass of men….

    Complete control of information is a big part of it. After a few years of garbage info in all German, included the high IQ, were talking garbage.

    This: THE INVISIBLE FRONT
    … and control of information.

    I blame the voters …
    TWANLOC must go …

  19. We don’t have to study the Third Reich to discover how an advanced country is overtaken by evil. We are living it.

  20. Dennis says it all, succinctly.
    I am going to preview and try to post this. For unknown reasons I and my computer guy using another PC have been unable to work the powerlineblog site today, and I have been unable to post comments here today, stupid though they may be.

  21. We are entering an era of darkness, bankruptcy, and ‘liberal’ promoted anarchy. One day you in urban areas will be shooting them in the streets like rabid dogs.

  22. Rush was talking about how Leftism poisons the minds of those who worship it, to the point that, like the ESPN “journalists,” they just feel compelled to excrete where they eat: over and over again.

    Football used to be a glorious American refuge from The Borg: we play the national anthem and sing along; we watch big, strong American men butt heads and enjoy it; we get to root for our favorite teams with no other thought in the world.

    Now that creature Barb Costas (as I now call ‘him’) comes on in the intervals, droning about Leftist bilge, lecturing and hectoring us. Even muting the idiot is no relief, because you have to keep have an eye on him to see when he’s shut his pie hole and you can get back to THE GAME.

    And, as is their custom, the Lefty Borg have now tainted your enjoyment of the experience. I would like to get a bloody great firehose and hose those creatures Right. Off. The. Screen.

    Impotent anger is no state to enjoy a game in. Eff them. Seriously. Just eff them.

    And the Mother’s Day thing? some Leftwing nutjob droning on and on about how we’re killing the planet by buying cut flowers: with a detailed tally of how they’re grown mostly abroad and we Waste All This Fuel by bring the flowers here.

    These people could, er, interfere with, er, the most pleasant imaginings, if you know what I mean….

  23. I’m not nearly so far along in the Klemperer diary, but I’m reading it, too; and it’s grim reading. Especially the discomfiting realization that what he’s talking about in 1935 has an uncomfortable family resemblance to what we’re enduring here and now.

    A Republican friend of mine, a cheery fellow, said he no longer listens to Rush because “he’s not so funny any more.” I think Rush used to be more of a cheerful warrior because he had the optimistic idea that healthy ridicule could turn back a lot of this nonsense, but nowadays he sees like we all do how Relentless it is. He has more than once said he’s exhausted by the Clintons and their endless perfidy and sleaziness, and just can’t believe he has to joust with them again.

    They are like the revenants in an Anne Rice novel, aren’t they? just when you think they’re dead and buried, you hear something behind you, and lo! their dirty hands are groping up through the ground again!

  24. Beverly @12:46 — about Rush:

    Rush knows he is target number one. The way has been prepared relentlessly for his elimination. The “accusations” against him are the usual baseless orgies of name-calling.

    I have faithfully listened to him from the start, and so can personally attest the man is always falsely accused.

    One of the things Rush does (did much more in the past, I think) is to run a minute or two of clips from a large number of media sources, all using the same word or remarkably similar phrasing to describe something. For instance, one fine day all across the fruited plane, media folks were all inspired to use the word “gravitas” with respect to George Bush.

    Rush from time to time will do the same thing running clips where the media folks were all simultaneously inspired to make a particular negative (and always false) comment about Rush himself.

    In my experience, Rush has always let the phenomenon speak for itself; he has never explicitly characterized what the media was doing. True, he does say he thinks the remarks come from people who do not actually listen, but who rely upon a few media outlets who do listen and distort.

    When Rush is destroyed, we will know the tipping point has been reached. There will be no going back.

    Rush has been very, very, very reluctant to give up on the Republican party. But yesterday, if I heard correctly, he said (to paraphrase) “we don’t have a party interested in defending us.”

    He was not referring to himself, but he might as well have been. When he is gone, we will know it is over.

    The confirming indifferent silence will be bone-chilling.

  25. Beverly Says:
    May 13th, 2015 at 12:41 am

    Rush was talking about how Leftism poisons the minds of those who worship it, to the point that, like the ESPN “journalists,” they just feel compelled to excrete where they eat: over and over again. ”

    &&&&

    Mantra as dialog…

    &&&&

    And AGAIN very much in the style/ rite of Islam…

    Which rites consist largely of damning Jews and Christians and Polytheists (Hindus, in particular)

    THAT’S actually what’s being chanted over and over in every Mosque five times a day.

    There’s not much else to chant about.

    &&&&

    No small amount of Leftist cant is based on – – exudes from — “Magical Thinking” as defined by psychologists.

    The nation’s biggest Magical Thinker is our ayatollah Soetoro.

    It is from his bong dreams that he crafts / whiffs his alien policy agenda.

    It’s long been noted that no-one smells his own stink.

    This goes far to explaining why Barry Soetoro is so self-satisfied.

    &&&&&&

    As Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Napoleon, Caesar, Alexander all record — the Sixth Year Itch is a bitch. That’s when the real
    crazy begins.

    cf Kemplerer

    When Barry Soetoro’s life is filmed it’s title must be “Free-fall” for the boy with the accelerating vision.

  26. blert, out of curiosity, six years is not clicking for for me for any of those guys

    Reading the biography of Mao in particular it is striking how cruelty was his chief pleasure from the very start of his life until the last day.

    I do not know about Napoleon, but every other guy on that list (arguably) had mommies who who made them feel like the center of the universe, and fathers who were gone (Caesar) or nasty, cold-hearted bastards.

    I do realize that statement is just an interesting oversimplification and not an explanation (as far as anyone can tell).

  27. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3078344/Is-BEDROOM-making-fat-Bright-lights-streetlamps-causing-weight-gain.html

    Way OT ^^^

    But germane to the Weight and Diet topic just so recently posted.

    As I have averred before: artificial lighting affects us when that light does not correspond to the Sun’s frequency blend.

    (AKA Color Temperature.)

    Incandescent lamps radiate black body radiation — just like our Sun.

    The rest of the artificial illumination pantheon does NOT.

    So, it’s not for nothing that computer programmers — in particular — put on weight virtually without limit.

    The first investigator to really track this is an Israeli MD.

    He’s been cited — but I’ve lost the links.

    S L O W L Y some will come to comprehend.

  28. I know some otherwise perfectly fine people who think there’s somebody out there–Joe Lunchbucket–who isn’t living right.
    He takes up too much space with his house and lot. Uses too many resources commuting and in his recreations. Doesn’t pay enough attention to the advice of his betters. Has too many kids.
    I suspect they would have no problem using the tools of tyranny to fix Joe Lunchbucket’s situation. For Joe’s good, of course, and for ours.
    But they wouldn’t be on board with imposing tyranny if they could see it. If it happened in increments, its usefulness would make it attractive.

  29. If it happened in increments, its usefulness would make it attractive….

    Some are ready for it:
    “Because not only does China finance our deficit, it sets an Example of Governance and Shows Our Decadent Democracy the Enlightened Autocratic Way…” Tom Friedman.
    Whom as a Jew should know better but … nothing learned everything forgotten …

  30. As to the pets, I think it was Stalin who devised the term “refined sadism”. You get more fun for your money torturing a kid in front of a parent than torturing the parent.
    Not that it’s a new concept. But the little thousand-cuts of pets and armbands and whatnot…and you still have the actual body to torment later when it suits you.

  31. …Reading the biography of Mao in particular it is striking how cruelty was his chief pleasure from the very start of his life until the last day….
    To great and lasting effects!:[insert demented laughter]

    CHINA’S GREAT SHAME:
    THIRTY-SIX million people in China, including my uncle, who raised me like a father, starved to death between 1958 and 1962, during the man-made calamity known as the Great Famine. In thousands of cases, desperately hungry people resorted to cannibalism.
    The toll was more than twice the number of fallen in World War I, and about six times the number of Ukrainians starved by Stalin in 1932-33 or the number of Jews murdered by Hitler during World War II.
    After 50 years, the famine still cannot be freely discussed in the place where it happened. My book “Tombstone” could be published only in Hong Kong, Japan and the West. It remains banned in mainland China, where historical amnesia looms large and government control of information and expression has tightened during the Communist Party’s 18th National Congress, which began last week and will conclude with a once-in-a-decade leadership transition.
    Those who deny that the famine happened, as an executive at the state-run newspaper People’s Daily recently did, enjoy freedom of speech, despite their fatuous claims about “three years of natural disasters.” But no plague, flood or earthquake ever wrought such horror during those years. One might wonder why the Chinese government won’t allow the true tale to be told, since Mao’s economic policies were abandoned in the late 1970s in favor of liberalization, and food has been plentiful ever since.
    The reason is political: a full exposure of the Great Famine could undermine the legitimacy of a ruling party that clings to the political legacy of Mao, even though that legacy, a totalitarian Communist system, was the root cause of the famine. As the economist Amartya Sen has observed, no major famine has ever occurred in a democracy. . . . The Great Leap Forward that Mao began in 1958 set ambitious goals without the means to meet them. A vicious cycle ensued; exaggerated production reports from below emboldened the higher-ups to set even loftier targets. Newspaper headlines boasted of rice farms yielding 800,000 pounds per acre. When the reported abundance could not actually be delivered, the government accused peasants of hoarding grain. House-to-house searches followed, and any resistance was put down with violence.
    All in the name of equality and material abundance, of course.
    UPDATE: Reader Alan Nott writes: “I just can’t resist: Thomas F*cking Friedman, call your God d*mn office…”

    Bonus: Friedman’s home.
    Too good for too long …

  32. There is no direct comparison, yet, between what many SWAT teams do to the family pet, often in front of children, and the totalitarian ugliness of the Nazis. However, the creeping militarization of our local police and the often heavy handed use of SWAT raids is worrisome. Just saying…

  33. There is no direct comparison, yet, between what many SWAT teams do to the family pet, often in front of children, and the totalitarian ugliness of the Nazis.

    That’s what WACO was for. And you act like they aren’t executing the families.

    A lot of people papering over things they can’t look at, obviously. A weakling’s reaction.

  34. Ymarsakar, I do agree with you, but was stepping lightly on the subject, feeling out the reaction on this forum. The incidents are not being directed from a federal level, but rather part of an increasing authoritarian mindset. Whether it’s machine guns wielding thugs arresting 8 y/o Elian Gonzalez in the middle of the night, or the Waco and Ruby Ridge horrors, or simply local police SWAT teams killing Fido in front of the kids, the operative term is Jack Booted Thugs. So far, there isn’t a national police force equivalent to the SS. So far.

  35. The German National Socialists were very much into animal rights

    Somebody need to go in and edit this notation into Wikipedia because I am fuming right now.

  36. So far, there isn’t a national police force equivalent to the SS.

    Hussein the Left’s God Emperor is working on that.

    Federalized police forces with DHS and ATF equipment is what’s on the current intel assessment.

    They also armed several school districts with grenade launchers, although the Left’s teacher unions are good at raping students, but not so good at making good use of military grade munitions.

  37. The Other Chuck

    This place is special, unique, or just strange. All the Leftist trolls and Leftist Obey Evil and wannabe totalitarians, either got chased out or they are silently watching us.

    They’re silent because they know what the Left will do to them if any hint is leaked (somehow) that they were providing us information and rejecting Hussein’s authority. Are they providing us information? Does that really matter, if the Left believes it, there will be a death squad called up soon enough to punish the offenders. Or if not the Left, then the Islamic Jihad. Something gets “leaked” sooner or later about this person or that, insulting Mohammed, and sooner or later they get dead. At other times, the Gaystapo and Feminazi black ops agents are almost as effective and cruel. Disinformation and false flag operations work quite well in this environment.

    Leftist operatives here and elsewhere know what they are dealing with, they aren’t ignorant. They know very well how their bosses respond to back talk.

    It helps that the 3% of those that can convert from evil to good or the 3% that are capable of fighting evil, tend to congregate together as well. That’s not divided between political parties. For example, some conservatives decided to vote Hussein and then they think they can lecture me about things. That’s not tolerable and so I don’t tolerate it. Their politics does not shield them from the war or from the consequences of the fight.

    As for me, I knew of the Leftist alliance’s power and true history by about 2007 or 2008. That’s why I said elections didn’t matter, people weren’t going to win this fight via an election. Of course I kept my mouth shut on the internet because the ones that didn’t, got snatched by the Left, as usual.

  38. Training a Stazi or SS force is difficult and requires time. Which is why when a group of people can easily be trained to obey orders to go in and terminate any life at the target, deers, pets, humans, this makes for an efficient training and indoctrination system for the kill squads.

    Those of us who are familiar with such training systems comprehend it intuitively. Start them out with the small stuff. Slowly desensitize them to it so that they can deal with the guilt. Then ensure that loyalty controls are there to make sure they shoot the enemy and not the blues. The same training methods that go into psychological conditioning of soldiers from citizens, or gang bangers from civilians, can be used for death squads and insurgencies. It’s just a variant of the vigilante and warrior training programs.

  39. Dennis Says:
    May 12th, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    We don’t have to study the Third Reich to discover how an advanced country is overtaken by evil. We are living it.

    While I have cut off ties with my former friends who voted for Obama, if I was still speaking to them, I’d like to say, “Have you ever wondered how Hitler came to power? Look in the fucking mirror.”

  40. Ymarsakar, I genuinely hope what you are alluding to is not what is going on. But I suspect you are closer to the truth than I want to believe. I’ve suspected certain disappearances were domestic Black Ops. Geez, shades of Argentina.

  41. Before 2012, the tin foil hatters could only have theories. The stupid ones broadcasted them on the net, because they didn’t really believe the System was out to get them. Nobody that really believed 9/11 was the government’s handiwork, would be on any media talking about it. Not if they really believed it. A conspiracy of that scope, would require enough enforcement layers that an onion would start looking one dimensional. If Bush was the Hitler they said he was, they wouldn’t be talking about it on the internet, they would have been dropped into the Pacific trenches a long time ago.

    If the Leftist alliance is what I and others imply they are, then the proof will be presented by the Left. I will not seek to convince people. Since if you are right, you get punished or dead. If you are wrong, you’re just another opinion maker. There’s no reward for being right on that scale.

    People who took the IRS lightly. People who took the unions lightly in Wisconsin. They are paying for that in human pain and blood right now. That is all a version of taking the Left lightly, of thinking the Left are a bunch of incompetent clowns in a clown car called the Democrat party. That is all a version of underestimating the power of evil. The consequences will be what we see.

    Snowden’s data tap and output was useful in that vein, to let those of us who were wiser, figure out what the limits were. And as people went on the net with their new found Hussein conspiracy theories, it created a disinformation cloak for other people. People who think Hussein is bad or corrupt, they don’t have any proof though. Those that know a lot of things, are keeping it tight to the vest, because they know how easy it is to leak things. The Left may not pay attention to regular internet keyboard warriors they think are right wing nutters, butif you end up on the SPLC list that means they at least know you as an enemy. But the moment someone utters a name of the right person, with some statement that they know the truth, that is easy to get noticed on.

    It is easy to suspect that whatever damage Snowden did, is small compared to the internal spies in the US gov. I mean, given the number of oversea “trips” politicians like to take and the fact that we now have reports of homo child predators going to Cuba to pay for “farm” services of the kiddies there, it’s not hard to connect the dots. The US leadership are tied down with so much blackmail, that they can’t afford to allow the domestic citizens to hear of it, no matter what the price is. But now that the 2012 “election victory salvation” concept is over and done with, people are going out with all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories. Which makes it much harder for the Left to prioritize their hit list now, apart from the obvious Tea Party organizers.

    I’ve suspected certain disappearances were domestic Black Ops.

    Even google can’t stop their search bots from getting the “SWAT wrong address killed” line out of their results page. Who is to say that the wrong address was intentional or not? Who is to say that someone didn’t phone in an anonymous tip that address A had drug dealers in it?

    People don’t want to connect the dots, either because they are incapable intellectually of analyzing the intel or they lack the heart to withstand the pain.

    Also reporters have mysteriously died because their computer control car sped up and ran into a tree. I always found that funny. Died in a car accident ,due to the computer in the car de activating the breaks. Sounds legit.

  42. Most of my predictions have come true or close enough. So the only ones I have left is the one concerning the Left’s tyrants.

    If people thought Hussein was pretty bad, wait until they see what else the Leftist alliance has in store for you. They have tyrants and totalitarian mad dogs 1000 times worse than that boy king.

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