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  1. Obama probably can’t even screw in a light bulb. I can’t wait till he jumps on the EU bandwagon to get rid of 2-slice toasters. The only thing he gets done is turning out protesters, and that’s what he wants now–more screaming idiots to distract the public from what’s really happening in the country. We really need a campaign to remind people that the Energiewende cost a fortune, hasn’t worked well, and increased sales of Chinese-made solar panels.

    China loves this agreement because it will make people stop yelling at them for 15 years.

  2. A true roll back in carbon dioxide partial pressure would curtail agricultural output and the regrowth of all tropical forests.

    In the tropics, the rate limiting compound is carbon dioxide, water and sun are not limiting.

    Likewise, in modern agriculture, fertilizers and irrigation are tuned in to produce maximum results. Again, the rate limiting compound is carbon dioxide — from the air.

    This reality is acknowledged in all bio-diesel programs. Carbon dioxide gas is force fed to the algae, usually at twenty times ordinary partial pressures. Growth is, of course, explosive.

    NASA studied all of this fifty-years ago. Again it was established that carbon dioxide — at our normal levels — was THE rate limiting compound for plant growth. (algae, again, was used)

    The bottom line is that global harvests would actually shrink if carbon dioxide partial pressure dropped back.

    There is the widespread tendency to overlook carbon dioxide as a rate limiting compound because it’s available at the same concentrations world wide. Fish don’t recognize water. We ignore air.

    Outside of NASA, and the bio-diesel crowd, everyone ignores carbon dioxide.

    BTW, in the ancient past the partial pressure of carbon dioxide was as much as fifty times as great as at present. That gas now holds up the white cliffs of Dover — and a lot more.

  3. The Chinese just played us for suckers again. Since when have communists actually cared about the environment? But by agreeing to it, they got some concessions out of Obama. The first concession we now know is that we will not even lend moral support to Tibetan independence. We can be sure that there were other concessions made by Obama that will in time emerge. And in 2030 the Chinese can simply abrogate the agreement and demand new ‘negotiations’.

    Obama got what he wanted too. By getting the Chinese to formally agree, he gets the political leverage to move forward with his climate change agenda. The impact of which will be profound.

  4. The agreement can be summarized this way:
    You (the U.S.) agreed to spend money to buy a new car that get’s better gas mileage and a new furnace that doesn’t burn as much natural gas. You also agreed to send donations to poor people who MAY use them to emit less CO2.

    Your neighbors (the ChiComs) agreed to (maybe) buy a more efficient car and furnace in 2030.

    Whatta deal! 🙁

  5. Since this was not an actual treaty that requires the advice and consent of the Senate but an agreement, I believe that it only lasts the life of Obama’s administration, and if a new President wants to renegotiate it or even reject it outright, he can.

  6. Aside from the fact that AGW is the biggest fraud in human history, cheap, abundant energy is the lifeblood of a modern economy. There is no way that much carbon-based energy can be replaced with wind and solar.

    If implemented, the treaty will handicap the American economy relative to other nations. This is of a piece with Obama’s redistributionist philosophy.

    This is about permanently lowering the living standard of the American middle class. Obama’s hatred of White Americans is palpable. He thinks we’ve had it too good for too long and need to be taken down a few pegs. We need to have our noses rubbed in the poverty that “people of color” experience.

    My hatred for that man is incandescent. He is literally Satanic.

  7. Obama, the Marxist with a huge-arse chip on his shoulder, negotiated with his fellow communists to deliver America’s economy, trussed up like a Thanksgiving turkey, to the ChiCom butchers.

    It’s all perfectly predictable — he, like both his vile parents, hates us and is doing everything he can to cripple us. Quite deliberately. I’m with Rickl.

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