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  1. you are talking about: Mokryye Dela

    The film is a reminder of how relentless the Soviets were in blighting liberty and in ruining–or threatening to ruin–innocent lives.

    should be

    The film is a reminder of how relentless the Soviets are in blighting liberty and in ruining–or threatening to ruin–innocent lives.

    not were..
    were says they stopped, or they are not soviet
    that is not so (our beliefs dont make it so, either)

    we really shouold not say such untruths or things that we cant tell are true… its akin to pissing inot the head of your neighbor cause you care little about it… but to claim a past tense when that is not true, is to write propaganda, or pass it on, or at best confirm the fakery…
    (big lie. to combat the big lie, stop repeating it, especially when reflexively done)

    there is an unbroken chain of policy going back to before stalin

  2. and how about these ATTEMPTS

    Pope John Paul II

    John Wayne – An ardent anti-communist and vocal supporter of the House Un-American Activities Committee, in 1952 he made Big Jim McLain to show his support for the anti-communist cause. Recently declassified Soviet documents reveal that despite being a fan of Wayne’s movies, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin contemplated Wayne’s assassination as a result of his frequently-espoused anti-communist politics

    Then there was the “Berlin Group” and Alexander Zharkov who is processing one of many lists…

    and even more intersting, the recent finding in the german archives of a post hitler anti communist nazi army of over 10,000 people in germany ready to fight again!!!!! but only if russia invaded

    A 1964 view of KGB methods
    SOVIET USE OF ASSASSINATION AND KIDNAPING
    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol19no3/html/v19i3a01p_0001.htm

    They have been used against Soviet citizens, Soviet emigrés, and even foreign nationals. A list of those who have fallen victim to such action over the years would be a very long one and would include even the co-founder of the Soviet state, Leon Trotsky. Several well-known Soviet assassination operations which have occurred since the rise of Khrushchev attest to the fact that the present leadership of the USSR still employs this method of dealing with its enemies.
    ……….
    Soviet intelligence is frequently blamed and is undoubtedly credited with successes it actually.has not achieved. On the other hand, even in cases where the Soviet hand is obvious, investigation often produces only fragmentary information, due to the KGB ability to camouflage its trail. In addition, Soviet intelligence is doubtless involved in incidents that never become officially recognized as executive action, such as assassinations which are recorded as accidents, suicides, or natural deaths.

    in that last caregory, a few assasis have come forward and confessed, and we now know that some heart attacks and defenestrations were their work

    The large numbers of former citizens of the USSR (and of Imperial Russia) living abroad in protest against the Soviet regime have been a continuing cause for concern to the Soviets since the early twenties

    and so KOCH is a target of stuff being anti-communist since then… and almost all defectors, though the public eye can save people some times… just read about arcady and the facts of that relationship, but then again, recommended and not read so i wont again

    Reducing and keeping to a minimum the potential threat to the regime represented by these emigrés is one of the functions of the state security service. Soviet intelligence seeks to neutralize, discredit and destroy anti-Soviet groups by luring emigrés back to the USSR, by penetrating emigré organizations, and by kidnaping or murdering individual emigrés considered to be particularly dangerous.

    Nureyev fit thi. as did anyone else who the world would think would have it great but wanted to leave.

    that is. its easy to see why an ex soviet peasant stuck in a run down ex gulag came in the urals cant immigrate out and if so, would not be too kind as to their memories of the prior state..

    but when luminairies defect, thats a big deal. why would a perosn who is famous, celebrated, and loved want to run like hell out of their from the first chance they get?

    its sadly funny that todays liberal cant learn from that.
    that some of their most celebrated personalities and luminaires had to run or die… or be erased…

    it shouold be noticed that some people who are a part of the movement are people who are afraid to stop. they are in over their heads, no one would believe them, and there is no way to leave

    and some, are double agents. that is, people who, like nuryeve, left the soviet union to be defectors who would then have access to people and be able to be agents of infliuence. so sometimes the victim is not a victim… or the defector is not a defector.

    what scares them are stories of people like the now known story of Rebet… (or that they killed someone close to them and told them they would… after that, they are quite under control)

    The weapon used to assassinate Rebet was a light-weight aluminum cylinder, 15 to 18 cm. long and approximately 3 cm in diameter, weighing about 200 grams.

    they basically held the thing up near the face, hit it, and the noise would make the victim gasp. they would die of a heart attack… and thats that…

    this meant that if you were alone in a stair, by your door, walking down a street, in a subway, etc… someone only need walk up to you, ask for the time, and thats that.

    Lisa Stein was fed candy containing scopalomine… the thing was much like abductions in the movies, where the sick person is escorted outside, and then helped into a car, and they disappear. she didnt get sick till later, and her neighbors came to her aid, foiling the plot

    then there was the use of polonium on an ex KGB man… it was a statement as the only people who could get that much of it are people who could tap a nuclear power plant and not leave a record…

    they used to use thalium… and radioactive stuff was used as it caused stomach cancer, something that was a lot more common before we started using paper coffeer filters.

    oh. there is one other thing fouling up the waters in respect to nuryeve…

    he had a habit of having sex with a lot of mens wives as he was pan sexual…

    e did have sexual relationships with quite a lot of women. He obviously was primarily gay, but he was pan-sexual, and he took it where he could find it — and he clearly liked the idea of having a son to renew his line

  3. List of Soviet and Eastern Bloc defectors
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_and_Eastern_Bloc_defectors

    reads like a whose who list…
    some are very very interesting

    Arkady Shevchenko UN Undersecretary General Spied for the U.S. for three years before defection. His wife in Moscow died two months after his defection purportedly of suicide.

    [i pointed out that the soviet state is the first to target loved ones as a rule not a last resourt]

    there are chess players, choreographers, politburo secretaries, generals, authors, physicists, NKVD, KGB,SVR, GRU, MGB, ambassadors, a Cardinal, a Deputy minister of Justice, pilots, naval officers, journolists, ballet dancers, poets, writers, mathemeticians, playwrights, conductors, film direcots, linguists, and with the olympics, figure skaters, football, sprint, canoe, ice dancing, motorcycle racer, hockey players, etc

    the list of reverse defections is very small comparatiely speaking and usually when someone is caught, like snowden (or seemingly caught)

    Arthur Adams (spy)
    Harold M. Koch
    George Koval
    Lee Harvey Oswald
    Alfred Sarant
    Joel Barr
    Arnold Lockshin
    Lona Cohen
    Morris Cohen (spy)
    Bill Haywood
    Isaiah Oggins
    Martin and Mitchell defection
    Robert Edward Webster
    Flora Wovschin

    the list of US personell compromised is even more interesting…

    One chief aim was the infiltration, placement, and subversion of American political life at all levels of society. Earl Browder, General Secretary of the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA), served as an agent recruiter himself on behalf of Soviet intelligence

    Browders whole family it seemed had jobs with the soviets..

    Alger Hiss, John Abt, and Lee Pressman were spies under FDR… with the courier of the group being wittiker chambers who changed sides.

    he oversaw Jacob Golos and his girlfriend, Elizabeth Bentley… bently eventually changed sides too… she was the blond spy who eventually got Nathan Gregory Silvermaster and Harry Dexter White of the US treasury to do things

    yes… and not once will you read that any of these people and their NKVD Work had any influence on the depression, the ideas being used to push communism as a solutioln, and os on.

  4. Art…

    It has long struck me that Guderian was bumped off by the KGB.

    He’d gotten ‘lost in the weeds’ and overlooked… until he published his memoirs.

    Not so long after that he suddenly dies.

    In his memoirs he made it plain that the Russians blamed him for an engineered campaign of starvation in front of Moscow in the Fall and Winter of 1941.

    Not withstanding his rank, Guderian waltzed right past Nuremberg. His chronic fights with Adolf had become widely known in command circles.

    (His last argument almost killed Hitler with a heart attack.)

  5. Art, especially high art, as I understand it to be dance, painting, and sculpture, requires form and expertise, hence, truth and freedom. Modernity corrupts truth in the name of freedom, but of course freedom and truth are allies, not enemies.

    Painting was corrupted; sculpture definitely; but dance? Not very much. And ironically,
    the society which tore down truth more than any other, found in dance a heritage worth saving and preserving.

    And so all the more to Nureyev’s dedication of his skill and dance to truth. If he had had no conflict with truth, why denounce with his action, the government of the USSR?

    And what a dilemma, huh? To put truth above family and friends. Irony again in that it seems that that is what ideological traitors do. But truth is truth and I wouldn’t want to be the one who, as a traitor, was against it.

  6. On lonliness

    Watch the sunrise with beaded eyes
    Catch the moment before it falls
    Everyone captures your surprise
    Though it is no surprise at all.

    Beyond the sunset and sunrise
    I cannot go. Though I have longed
    To make them once and both my home.
    My home, beloved and known, is gone.

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