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  1. If the press were honest, Obama would have them thrown out of their Ivory Towers like Putin did.

    There’s much more to the Leftist alliance than just Obama, Democrats, and Main Sewer Media.

  2. “There’s much more to the Leftist alliance than just Obama, Democrats, and Main Sewer Media.”

    No…I think that’s pretty much it.

  3. That’s what you think, yea.

    “Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.”-Guess who

    On another note, doctors that refuse to work will be required to work. Or else.

  4. I’ve been on this hobby horse for weeks on end.

    Finally, it’s getting some traction.

    And in other news, it’s slowly being admitted…

    a limited, partial, hang out…

    that Healthcare.gov will be ready only after Barry leaves office in 2017.

    (!)

  5. Can someone explain to me how big insurance companies which do not participate in an exchange will make money? Can they sell insurance which does not meet ACA requirements? In a related question, how will the big hospitals that are not participating make money. Private pay or Medicare would seem to be part of the answer.

  6. Survey finds doctors rebelling against Obamacare, famous hospitals declining to join

    “Obamacare applicants across the country are finding their premiums are tripling, their favorite doctors aren’t available, the physicians they can see are often far away and many prestigious hospitals offering specialized care are off-limits to them, according to a Washington Examiner survey of health insurance agents and brokers across the country.

    Agents associated with the National Association of Health Underwriters were contacted in 16 cites across the country.

    The agents were all certified by state insurance regulators to sell health insurance policies within and without the Obamacare exchanges.

    Their responses provide an alarming picture of the profound changes Obamacare is forcing on patients and health care providers.
    In parts of California, for example, low reimbursement rates have resulted in a doctor rebellion, as nearly seven out of 10 doctors refuse to participate in the exchanges.

    San Diego broker Neil Crosby told the Examiner that “65 to 70 percent of the providers have declined the reimbursement schedules the carriers are offering. They will not be providers in the exchange marketplace.”

    Similarly, agent David Fear in Sacramento said, “Roughly a third of the doctors are going to be accepted in the networks. I’m finding very few specialists in either the Anthem or Blue Shield networks.”

    Larry Harrison, an agent in Las Vegas, said the “lion’s share” of doctors there are staying away from the exchanges.

    On the other side of the country, broker Carol Taylor of Roanoke, Va., estimated that participating doctor networks there are shrinking by 70 percent in the exchange plans.

    Meanwhile, nationally known health insurance providers like United Healthcare, Aetna, Cigna and Coventry are staying out of the Obamacare exchange marketplaces.

    Other well-known companies such as Blue Cross Blue Shield are in, but are sharply narrowing their networks to exclude many doctors, as well as elite hospitals.

    As a result, well-known hospitals like Los Angeles’ Cedars-Sinai, New York’s Memorial Sloan-Kettering and the NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital will be out of reach for many exchange patients.

    In Naples, Fla., Physicians Regional Hospital will not be available to exchange enrollees. Its parent company purchased the former Cleveland Clinic’s Florida facility in Naples in 2006.

    In Georgia, Humana exchange patients are discovering the insurer operates only one approved hospital in the entire state.”

    “Way over the horizon, about six months from now; [right now] about 100 million people get their insurance through Medicare and medicaid, 171 million people get it from their employers. Watch the employers, because if they start dumping people into Medicare and into Medicaid, and the doctors then say, ‘The burdens are too high, and the reimbursement is too low, we’re not seeing Medicaid patients, then all hell is going to break loose” George Will on Fox News Sunday

  7. Outstanding comment by Geoffrey Britain. This is the real problem with Obamacare, not the website – although that’s a major mess as well. Lots of Republican Senators and House members who are doctors kept pointing this out from 2009 on. Drs. Tom Coburn (R-OK) and John Barrasso (R-WY) made a series of U-Tube videos discussing all these issues. You can access them here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watchv=A5MHoTxGma0
    When I hear the MSM or the dems declare that the Rs had no plan or alternatives, it just drive me nuts. All this information was known years ago. Yet, thanks to the dems using every pernicious legislative processes they could figure out and Obama’s false promises, here we are. How do the dems sleep at night, unless they have no sense of responsibility?

    Here in the Puget Sound area some of our major hospitals are not in the exchange approved insurance plans and they are now asking why.

  8. The worker bees at the bottom will comply. Whether they like it or not.

    The Rs did have no plan against slavery.

  9. The leftist desire for “free” healthcare is going to hit a concrete wall.

    The Brits could implement it in ’48 due to low expectations. Americans in 2013 have high expectations for healthcare service. Obamacare, medicare, medicaid, doesn’t matter, it ain’t gonna work out. It is one thing for a doc to see a medicare patient and “balance his books” by seeing some private insurance patients. It is another thing to expect him to provide low payment care all around.

  10. Thanks JJ but except for George Will’s comment, the blockquote was from the article that neo had linked to in her post. I got sidetracked and failed to click on her link but had independently seen the article earlier and ‘duh’ thought it relevant to her post’s theme. Only after I’d submitted my comment did I discover that I’d posted from the article she’d already linked to…
    Clearly, great minds think alike 😉

  11. Ymarsakar Says:
    December 2nd, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    “The Rs did have no plan against slavery.”

    The plan was Abe Lincoln and the Civil War. It worked.

  12. The leftist “true believer” rank and file has a critical problem understanding the difference between the process and outcome. It’s as if they seem to believe that if the Stated Goal of something is sufficiently noble and pure, the process will just magically work itself. Amongst the sheep, there’s not even necessarily a “means justifying the ends” mentality because it doesn’t seem to occur to them that the process might go wrong when the Stated Goal is so noble and wonderful. I have enough lefty friends to have observed this in action in recent years.

    That said, anyone who speaks out against the process is immediately labeled as being against the Stated Goal, as in, everyone who voiced concerns about Obamacare looming as an implementation disaster were meanies who were against poor people and children getting medical treatment. And when the process breaks down, as badly designed processes inevitably do, it’s not because it was badly planned or simply an impractical idea, it was because it was too little/too late, or actively sabotaged/hampered by the meanies.

  13. “when the process breaks down, as badly designed processes inevitably do, it’s not because it was badly planned or simply an impractical idea, it was because it was too little/too late, or actively sabotaged/hampered by the meanies.”

    Willful denial… for to face the truth is to be forced to examine with a critical eye all that one has believed, while accepting that one has played and been played for a fool. Acceptance of one’s foolishness is only palatable for those who place truth above ego and above wishful thinking.

    “Pike Bishop: A hell of a lot of people, Dutch, just can’t stand to be wrong.
    Dutch Engstrom: Pride.
    Pike Bishop: And they can’t forget it… that pride… being wrong. Or learn by it”

    dialog from the movie, The Wild Bunch

  14. The plan was Abe Lincoln and the Civil War. It worked.

    Really now?

    How come the South smashed the blacks back into serfdom over the next 80 years then?

    Slavery might have been beaten back, but the power of evil merely regenerated. Reconstruction was an absolute failure.

    You can invade Iraq and kill the dictator, but if you then elect an evil tyrant like Obama as a replacement, nothing will really change.

  15. The Civil War was started by Democrats. That was their plan not the repubs. This is a major delusion of the so called 3%ers. The South chose a warmonger for President explicitly because he would start the war. They wanted war and they got it.

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