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  1. What better way to destroy the family than to make both young men and women incapable of acting as psychologically healthy parental role models?

    What better way to destroy a nation than to make its young men unable to defend it?

    “Destroy the family, you destroy the country.” Vladimir Lenin

  2. I didn’t open the article because I know I would get far too agitated in reading it. As I’ve said before, the left has degenerated to the point of absurdity, particularly in leftist epicenters (SF, NYC outside of Queens and Staten Island, DC, etc.). It’s why The Onion and Babylon Bee are only mildly funny. It’s so hard to separate parody from reality.

    Some of us well remember Gus Hall. He was the front man for CPUSA for decades and was it’s Presidential nominee multiple times. He was an unrepentant Communist and Stalinist up until his death in 2000. Gus was the of Finnish immigrant stock in the Iron Range of Northeast Minnesota (an area I know well). He was a hardscrabble union organizer in the 30s and 40s, working with lumberman and then steel workers. He had developed kind of a romantic aura around him by the time I first heard of him in the late 80s. Even if you weren’t a communist or a socialist (I was neither; but rather a mainstream Democrat), you had to kind of respect the man.

    That was Gus. And now we have people like this woman (who’s views are entirely in line with contemporary American leftism). It’s not hard to imagine what Gus would say about the contemporary left.

    Make no mistake, Gus Hall was not someone to romanticize; he was a Soviet sympathizer (and probably an agent). He agitated for overthrow of the United States government until he realized this wasn’t going to happen, then he tepidly endorsed revolution by means of the ballot box.

    That said, with Gus (and most of the “old left”), you understood, mostly, where there were coming and what they aimed for (a classless society, “from each; to each”, etc…). Absurd and unrealistic? Yes. In part, the cause of millions of deaths? Yes. But at least a clear and noble (in the abstract) goal. The right could respond in kind, explaining why the left’s ‘means’ would never achieve its ‘ends’ and indeed why all such efforts were counterproductive.

    What is ultimate goal for people like this woman? Barbieworld? It’s just exhausting to even fathom such inanity, let alone try to adequately respond to it.

  3. I get it: I’m pretty mad there are only four female Supreme Court justices and a female vice president.
    ________

    She doesn’t even mention that the women on SCOTUS make only .77 for every dollar their male counterparts make. And they still have to make the sandwiches.

  4. Dollars to donuts, this is a single mother. Who would want to remain married to a woman so focused on emasculation? The poor kid will either go full on revolt and display true toxic masculinity, or be in therapy for a long time. Very sad.

  5. I guess everybody noticed the date in the second sentence of Neo’s first excerpt, but just in case you didn’t: it was the morning after the 2016 election. She was “sobbing” because evil had triumphed. She was one of those.

    I always hear a sort of passive-aggressive implication in that kind of thing–“shaking,” “sobbing,” “felt faint,” etc. It’s like you’re expected to respect and honor their extravagant emotionalism.

    Sad and awful fact though is that she is no doubt in many ways a genuinely Good Person in down-to-earth ways, actively helping people in concrete ways. I know someone very much like that. Genuinely kind and generous, but utterly unhinged about politics.

    Anyway I feel sorry for her son, and am trying to resist being pleased by the possibility that he might right-wing in some ugly way.

  6. A mutant species is evolving on the left, aggressively mutilating and mutating toward an uncertain but clearly antihuman goal.

    Are they self-destructing, or will we eventually be forced to deal with them?

    Hearing their growls in the distance, we watch and wait.

  7. These kids that are being subjected to this will someday cause real problems, most likely of a violent nature. Not going to be pretty at all.
    Wonder if the “manifesto” of the school shooter will shed some light on this.

  8. One of our sons passed along a link to this podcast interview by Chris Williamson. Clark points out that there is absolutely NO bias against women anywhere in America (some exists in other countries), and IMO the continued victim-ploy is noxious in addition to being abusive.

    She has reports and studies that are not getting published – big surprise.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKJ5wqKjous

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  9. Some of the comments at the YouTube podcast I linked resonated with me, as the mother of five boys — mostly well-adjusted men, as their youth predated the really toxic attacks on masculinity.

    @darkrebel123 (male)
    3 days ago (edited)
    I came up with a term that we can use to describe a certain kind of pernicious behavior. Vicarious victimhood. This describes people who feel the need to play the victim, but have never actually been victimized, so instead they choose to experience it vicariously through others that they perceive as marginalized. This vicarious victimhood feeds directly into empty virtue signaling.

    @cosmicmuffet1053 (male)
    4 days ago
    What’s really mind boggling to me is how I’m in a good marriage with a woman who’s smart and listens to me, and we’re concentrating on how we can make each other happy and better–and then I go out in the world and hear this stuff, and immediately get resentful. It’s got to be happening everywhere, and it’s obnoxious that it seeps into the relationships that are working. It has to be 100 times harder for someone who doesn’t have a decent partner or counterexample in their lives.

    @savannahwatson2384 (female)
    2 days ago
    Slowly raising my hand on being a women who just wants what is “empirically correct”. Morals and values change with the tides. The truth is not harmful. Men (and women) have twisted the truth since the beginning of time. So if we can’t know what is basic truth we (society at large, not just one group) will be washed to and fro and we can’t stand on solid ground. I want solid ground.

    @johnsalmons4724 (male)
    4 days ago
    Interesting conversation. As someone in academia and psychology, a lot of this is very recognizable. There is this weird culture where female academics are given all the priviliges and advantages, while still being seen as the victims and oppressed group. Both men and women overwhelmingly participate in this illusion.

    I’ve done a few (five I think) job interviews for after my phd and I couldn’t help noticing that all the comittees that interviewed me were either 100% or at least 80% female. In the building I work there are posters that say “no means no” regarding sexual conduct or other such matters, I checked the stats in the area I live, sexual harassment is extremely rare here, as my experience indicates as well. Which is why I always found these posters so odd, probably a HR decision. The HR department has tried to equalize the number of male and female student in computer science more by reducing sexism (of which there is no indication) for over 5 years now, without any success. There were many programs available during my phd that were only available to women. And I could give many more examples like this. I don’t necesarrily mind it either, I was never obstructed in my own work because of being a man, but it always seemed really odd to me that my female and male colleagues still really wanted to participate in this victimhood role of women in academia. It seems like a complete delusion to me.

    @Swift016
    4 days ago (edited)
    I’m a recent PhD and everything she asserts about the politicization of research is absolutely true. Left-leaning academics have divided and conquered the editorial boards of essentially every reputable publication, meaning that science (and therefore the literal future of human knowledge) is now dictated by these people. If your topic is even slightly controversial, it doesn’t get to the review stage, let alone published.

    In 2016, I literally heard social studies educators argue that poor conservatives should have their right to vote taken away. These people despise anyone who doesn’t hold their world view, and are ironically the fascists that they themselves warn others about. They go on and on about how power structures have been historically oppressive, and are now leveraging those structures for the exact same purposes.

    @texfromro
    4 days ago
    Errors in a life and death situation end up in death. So if you are interested in preserving life, finding the truth should be your utmost priority.

  10. Her writing tells us she is psychologically abusing her son. Reminds me of the essay a while ago from a woman raising her son and seriously worried he would grow up to be a rapist. These woman are abusing their children and they should be taken away from them. These types of essays tell me putting females in charge, as they tell us would end war and all sorts of other awful things, is completely and categorically wrong. Signed a serious tomboy, who was allowed to grow up. Thank goodness, still have all my original parts.

  11. Red State ran several posts about the new viral song hit by formerly “unknown” country singer Oliver Anthony. Comments on one of those posts are relevant here.

    https://redstate.com/brandon_morse/2023/08/14/the-leftist-attacks-on-rich-men-north-of-richmond-begin-n2162620#comment-6254821920

    Weminuche45
    9 hours ago edited
    “A family member who watched a young man they know commit suicide isn’t going to suddenly not feel the song because Matt Walsh does. ”

    Confirmed by my personal experience.
    Nor will it do anything to assuage for me, the fact that boys and young men kill themselves at 3x the rate of girls and young women, yet very few people even know this,
    and of those who do, few care enough to say or do anything to address the problem.

    Anthony did.

    MizRando Weminuche45
    8 hours ago
    It is the young men for whom my heart aches. Imagine being a young man today, as is Anthony Oliver, and not believing you have the world at your feet. I know my generation believed that and it is a stain on our souls that our youngsters do not.

  12. Although I am constantly bombarded by such feminist claptrap spewed in the media, especially on line, in my real life, I seldom encounter it. Out here, people mostly live what would be called “normal” lives, seldom fretting about the things that seem to so preoccupy online/media personalities like transsexualism and gender equality, etc. What the people I encounter worry about are generally the same things we have always worried about. I have yet to personally encounter a single transsexual, cross-dresser or militant homosexual. Of course, my life’s orbit involves family and church by-and-large, so unless I go out of my way, the rantings and posturings of the world’s misfits exist only on my computer or television screen. I can make these ephemera disappear with the touch of a button. Easy-peasy. Follow me for more tips on how to avoid stress and live a happy, satisfying life.

  13. These woman are abusing their children and they should be taken away from them.
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    You can very seldom improve a child’s situation with institutional care or foster care. In New York as we speak, the share of juveniles in foster care is about 0.6% of the total.
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    What’s odd about this creature is how contrived are her concerns, expressed in journalistic / academic language. At bottom, though, she’s a self-centered twit with emotional problems. Such women are as common as sand among the population of mothers. The male analogue is the father who is contemptuous, dismissive, angry, steeped in alcohol, or some combination of these. A sorry aspect of growing up is navigating the emotional life of the damaged goods who brought you into the world. And if you escape it growing up, you often marry it later.

  14. It’s great how that woman is using her “privilege” to impose her views on others. My politics don’t require anyone else to do anything. Yet her politics authorize the government to take money from me under the force of law and give it to people of whom I don’t approve to use for purposes I abhor. Yet in her eyes, she’s the good person and I’m a deplorable. Things that con’t continue, won’t.

  15. Sounds like child abuse to me—turning your son into an emblem of your own virtue.

    And what’s with these women who are all the time “sobbing” about this, that, and the other, and then drenching their kids in that emotional tsunami? I was raised by a single mom and while I can recall some crying, it was always context-appropriate and my mother never tried to pull me into her misery, or turn to me for comfort. Moreover, when my mother DID cry, it was pretty distressing for me simply because my mother was all the security I had in the world. Why would you want to deliberately cause your child emotional distress?

    Finally, although I hate bullying with a passion, I can’t help but question the sincerity of the author’s dedication to anti-bullying as I fear she would only see bullying through her social-justice lenses. Would she have stood up to those three black teenaged girls who verbally and physically assaulted five Asian-Americans just because they were Asian and because it’s fun to pick on people?

  16. When I get done crying on the couch about the latest indictment, I will tell the kids not to let anybody bully them. I’ll also point out to them that Joe and Kamala’s America is much more like Barbie’s gynocentric world than it is like a traditional patriarchy. I’m thrilled to be able to give them this guidance.

    Gus Hall was very into woodworking and had a workshop in his basement. There was an article back in the 70s or 80s by a New Leftist wondering if he and his colleagues would be like Gus in old age, resigned to their defeat and concentrating on hobbies and the private life. I suppose the writer and his peers got tenure and are now emerited, retired, or dead, but their students are in the government now. Norman Thomas stopped running for president 70 or so years ago, claiming that the country was already quite far on the road to socialism. While America isn’t completely Maoist yet, the 60s/70s left can be contented that we’ve gone quite a way on their road.

  17. The poor kid will either go full on revolt and display true toxic masculinity, or be in therapy for a long time. Very sad.

    Or, no one asks Ann Althouse why both her sons are gay.

  18. Or, no one asks Ann Althouse why both her sons are gay.
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    Both?
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    They are 42 and 40, respectively. One’s a lawyer in New York, the other a massage therapist in Austin, Tx. Of an age that it would still have been status-lowering among high school students as a rule (if not in their particular circles). I think both attended the University of Wisconsin (one certainly did).
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    Indubitably, Althouse herself moves in circles where it would be considered outre to ponder the question, much less ask.

  19. Finally, although I hate bullying with a passion, I can’t help but question the sincerity of the author’s dedication to anti-bullying as I fear she would only see bullying through her social-justice lenses.
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    I think it’s generally an excuse for school officials to promote homosexuality on company time.
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    The problem with the anti-bullying discourse (apart from such subterfuges) is that it betrays no sense that there are trade-offs involved in intervening in disputes between the young.

  20. Mike K; Art Deco:

    No one actually knows WHY anyone is gay. Research indicates some nature/nurture combination, as with most things human.

    But regarding Althouse’s sons, I believe (if memory serves me) that one is gay and not secretive about that (nor is she secretive about his sexual orientation), and one is not gay.

  21. Research indicates some nature/nurture combination, as with most things human.
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    I suspect nowadays that’s a subject wherein promising lines of inquiry are suppressed by peer reviewers and the usual enforcers on faculties.
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    Althouse had ample opportunity to observe her sons and their circle of friends. The question would be how adept an observer she is, particularly in regard to matters which carry a great deal of emotional freight. No, she doesn’t know why her sons are the way they are. She indubitably has an idea.

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