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  1. Hard to interpret this proposed legislation as anything but a giant middle finger to the majority of Americans who want a secure border and sensible immigration policy. And you can bet that more Republicans would vote for it if they thought they could get away with it.

  2. Why did they send lankford to negotiate he was rolled by warner on the intel committee so of course

  3. I’ll wait until lunchtime is over and call Sen. Tillis’s office here to tell him if he votes for this I will never vote for him again, no matter what idiot Democrat they run against him; and also that if he votes for cloture, for a fast up-or-down vote on this monstrosity, he will deserve and will likely get another NC Republican Party censure.

  4. Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment. That would fix McConnell’s attitude and the Senate.
    Adopt Madison’s Constitutional Amendment that stipulates 1 Representative for every 50,000 constituents*. That would fix the House.

    *The ratio of constituents to Representatives has increased more than 20 fold since the Constitution was adopted. It is no longer “The People’s House.”

  5. Do Johnson and McConnell ever speak to each other?

    My thoughts exactly. Why is this even a news story today?

  6. This technically belongs in the open thread, but it certainly is on point with the “not open border open border bill” monstrosity.

    Tucker Carlson interviews Brett Weinstein about the migration/invasion through/around the Darien Gap, a dense 60 mile forest which is a rough mountainous jungle separating Panama and Columbia. This is essential to get an idea of what is going on.

    Watch at least the first 30 minutes. I suspect you’ll be in for the entire hour interview.

    How China and the UN are Fueling the Invasion of America

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOxksFHAHRU

  7. I saw Chuck Schumer today on Morning Joe. His pitch:

    1. Trump is against the bill. He’s telling the GOP what to do. Therefore, the bill must pass because Trump is bad.

    2. If Ukraine doesn’t get this money, then Putin will win and invade other European countries.

    That was it. Totally dishonest.

    I imagine that Chuck was a big Vietnam dove and complained about Nixon’s falling dominos theory.

  8. So worse still (I told you I don’t pay that much attention to politics) this isn’t even getting out of the Senate? Again, why is there even a story for Schumer to be talking about in the first place?

  9. Most Americans have opposed illegal immigration for at least 20 years, but it’s gone up every year (except under Trump).

    But, hey, I’m jazzed about the Super Bowel Bowl! /sarc

  10. What they are not telling you is the Senate Bill makes open borders the law. They want this passed before Trump or anyone like him becomes President. Everyone for this bill, including eye-patch McCain, are against the majority of Americans that do not want this.

  11. The McConnell-Romney-Bush wing of the GOP desperately wants to lower the cost of labor and are so passionate about it that they are willing to sacrifice the country to do so.

  12. The 8500 floor of entry only counts toward people in contiguous countries like Canada and Mexico. The invaders from elsewhere are extra.

    This bill is terrible. It gives legal status to the flow. It makes it so the administrative branch doesn’t have to enforce the laws and gives them multiple outs.

    Question any Republican who supports this. This is stuff which will end the country.

  13. These politicians know full well that the great majority of Americans want the border closed. Willfully blind to the terrible reckoning they are pursuing.

  14. Contact your people in DC and let them know! An email, a mark left on their website, a phone call to their voicemail. Any and every way you have of connecting with your elected representative is the most powerful tool you and I have.
    Do it now!

  15. When the bill fails, McConnell will explain that he was trying to get the Democrats on the record and hand a winning electoral issue to Republicrats.

  16. Having seen the DC Federal District Court’s eagerness to persecute innocent patriots and tilt the scales of justice leftward, Dems and RINOs are now trying to stick the following type of provision into border related laws. So the Biden admin’s policy of not allowing states to defend their borders is potentially combined with putting those states in the hostile malignant hands of the most evil court in human history. Emphasis mine:

    The United States Court for the District of Columbia shall have sole and original jurisdiction to hear challenges, whether constitutional or otherwise, to the validity of this section or any written policy directive, written policy guideline, written procedure, or the implementation thereof, issued by or under the authority of the Secretary to implement this section.

    As Andrew Breitbart famously said in another context, WAR.

  17. Banned Lizard on February 5, 2024 at 6:12 pm said:
    “The McConnell-Romney-Bush wing of the GOP desperately wants to lower the cost of labor and are so passionate about it that they are willing to sacrifice the country to do so.”

    The actual solution to high costs of LEGAL labor is to repeal all of the union-labor subsidies/goodies/perks that they have accumulated, end all minimum wage laws, and cut back a host of other regulations that raise the price of LEGAL labor. They could even address the labor taxes such as Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance that have to be paid for LEGAL labor.

    But they won’t.

    Just like Biden could close the border tomorrow by revoking HIS Executive Orders.
    But he won’t.

  18. While it made some sense to link Israel aid to Ukraine aid and Ukraine aid to the border from a rhetorical standpoint. it never made any sense to link the issues in legislation. This is Negotiations 101. The House has belatedly figured that out by passing a clean Israel funding bill. The maximum political benefit comes from making Congressmen and Senators vote for each policy on its own merits. You want money for Ukraine but not border security? Fine, vote accordingly and be prepared to defend your vote to the constituents.
    This style of secret omnibus lawmaking allows members to avoid accountability and increases the power of the dealmakers in the back room. In this case, the desire for Ukraine funding was the carrot to convince Lankford (with McConnell probably at his shoulder at every step) to give the Left what it wanted on illegal immigration in order to get the Left to do what it already was inclined to do on Ukraine. (The Democrats have perfected this stance: “If you want me to do what we both want to do, you also have to do what you don’t want to do.” A five year old could counter that gambit: “If you Democrats don’t want to support Biden’s Ukraine policy, vote accordingly.”) If McConnell played the role I think he played, the caucus should sack him for incompetence.
    The call for “Regular Order” in appropriations is a reaction to the same practice. Until Congress re-asserts its ability to oversee the funding of each part of the Government, calling Cabinet members to testify is so much theatre; they know their budgets are going to be set in the omnibus negotiation, whether everything is connected to everything else. Regular Order is required to re-establish congressional oversight over the Administrative State. The Republican caucus was right to sack McCarthy for breaking his promise on Regular Order.
    Johnson better get on the ball. He’s burning daylight.

  19. Um, Oblio, it’s called EXTORTION…or, if you will, “transformative strong-arming”…

    (Thugs happen to be really good at it… They should be: they practice an awful lot….)

  20. Barry, it’s not even effective extortion. It’s the equivalent of Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles holding himself hostage: “Somebody help that poor man…”
    “No” is a powerful word.

  21. From the “Nice Country Ya Got There….” Files…
    “Schumer Lashes Out At Trump For Killing Open-Border Ukraine Deal”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/118b-ukraine-slush-fund-border-deal-dead-senate-amid-gop-revolt

    And it comes with its own ROTFLW segment…
    (WARNING: Before reading, make sure you are wearing well-padded clothing and a bicycle—or motorcycle—helmet…)

    ‘…Speaking on the Senate floor Tuesday, [Schumer] said that “After months of good faith negotiations, after months of giving Republicans many of the things they asked for, Leader McConnell and the Republican conference are ready to kill the national security supplemental package, even with the border provisions they so fervently demanded.”….’

    Yep, Schumer actually said that, delusional loon that he is….

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