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  1. Interesting stories, especially the one about the girl who disappeared at 14 and contacted police years later to say she was ok but didn’t want to get back together with her family. That must be hard on the family, except insofar as they know she is safe. And then there’s the realization she wants to live her life without them. That must hurt.

  2. So the staffer filmed while having gay sex in Congress will not face any charges. Yep. A Two Tier justice system. And you wonder why I an all out of Faith for the US.

  3. There’s some shaking going on in Oklahoma!!!

    We had 74 quakes in January in the Arcadia-Edmond area. The largest was 4.3 and it shook my house. Last night, my bed swayed a bit and when I checked the USGS map, it had been a 5.1 earthquake in Prague OK. The same area had a 5.6 quake in 2011 and the geologists found that a new fault line. So far, there have been 37 additional quakes in that area.

    When I expanded the map, there have been some quakes in the New Madrid MO region. There are a couple areas of Texas that have been active, but it is in the oil region (Odessa/Midland). Here is a link to the map (30 days, all magnitudes).

    https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/?extent=29.40132,-111.79688&extent=40.6973,-78.04688&range=month&magnitude=all&listOnlyShown=true&baseLayer=street&distanceUnit=mi&list=false

    It may take a few seconds for the map to fill in with the locations. And, it is a active map, so who knows what it will look like in 30 days.

  4. RE: UFOs, NHIs and Interstellar? Foreign Policy

    (Of course, I could be very wrong in my view of Reality, of the true situation, and what is going on with regard to UFOs and NHIs, but–as I assess the totality of the accumulating evidence that I see–I doubt it.)

    The answer as to how all of the essential information about UFOs and NHIs has been kept secret for these many decades is simple.

    The answer is a combination of patriotism, assumed military necessity, intimidation, and/or fear—fear that your career will be over, fear of imprisonment, fear for your and your family’s physical safety; if you leak, the equivalent of a bloody horse head in your bed–see the testimony of whistleblower David Grusch.

    Complementing this Secrecy regime has been a very thorough, determined, and wide-spread disinformation campaign—still operating today–one designed to convince the public that UFOs were/are not real—but were “swamp gas,” mirages, individual or mass hallucinations, hoaxes, sun dogs, weather balloons, scratches on or reflections off of aircraft canopies, smudges on lenses (said skeptic Mick West recently, they’re smudges of “bird poop”), various equipment malfunctions, misidentified civilian or military aircraft, misidentified planets, stars, or the moon and, nowadays, plastic bags floating in the wind or other “air trash,” and/or the fantasies of the stupid, uneducated, deluded, drunk, or deranged.

    A large part of this very successful disinformation campaign was/is to throw a whole cloud of shielding, confusing, and misdirecting chaff into the air, i.e. to occasionally encourage nutjobs and their crazy ideas/theories, to occasionally “leak” spurious/questionable documents, to spread bits and pieces of the truth throughout a whole lot of falsehoods, actual fantasy, and nonsense—see, for instance, the “X-files,” and in various SF books, movies, images, and TV series–so that it is almost impossible to separate real truth from falsehood.

    In some cases, it is to use an individual disinformation agent to sidetrack, or worse, someone who may potentially find some actual information—see what former government agent Richard Doty has said about his disinformation activities.

    Thus–on the outside looking in–we are essentially working on the basis of a few of what seem to be genuine leaks, FOIAed government documents, the work of what appear to be the more serious, well-informed, realistic, and canny UFO researchers, and a lot of speculation (informed, of course, by the many likely hundreds of thousands of scenarios and theories which have been thought up by those science fiction writers over the decades).

    The presence and reality of the 5 or 10 percent of reported UFOs which are truly “anomalous” and unknown physical? objects has already been acknowledged by our government.

    Now assume that NHIs visiting/present in our Solar system and here on Earth are also fact.

    How would our government have dealt with, and deal today, with these UFOs (because some have speculated that the UFOs themselves are some type of NHIs) and NHIs.

    I can see how, back around WWII, if not earlier, our government–feeling threatened by unknown vehicles and the entities operating them, which are obviously far more advanced than we were—see the Foo Fighters—would concentrate on trying to acquire crashed UFOs technology (and to sometimes test our ability to knock UFOs down) and trying to reverse engineer the alien tech they contained, so that we humans could narrow the imbalance between our military forces and options, and those these entities demonstrated, and very likely had in reserve.

    During all of this time, add to the mix, of course, the efforts of other foreign powers or organizations—Russia, China, and who knows who else—to acquire their own crashed UFOs and to reverse engineer their technology, in order to be the first one to acquire an unbeatable advantage over all of the other countries or organizations on Earth, and, meanwhile, employing espionage, trying to find out what other countries or organizations are doing and achieving—again, see David Grusch’s testimony.

    At the same time, these governmental–and especially military authorities–would not want to admit their helplessness in the face of these UFOs and NHIs.

    They also possibly believed/feared that publicly admitting to the reality of UFOs and NHIs might lead to general panic, violence, and possibly even to the breakdown of the civil order.

    Thus, denial and ridicule were the orders of the day.

    At this point, a lot depended–and still does depend–on whether some, or all, of these NHIs wish to remain permanently elusive, or may decide that they want to communicate with us humans directly, to deal with us, or to have some sort of relationship with us.

    Complicating things are the conclusions of many researchers that we are likely dealing with a number of different species of NHIs—of necessity the products of who knows what very different—perhaps wildly different–environments, biological/mechanical/electronic origins, organizations, and histories.

    NHIs which very likely have different and conflicting agendas and aims in being here in our Solar System, and here on Earth.

    There are those within the “UFO community” who maintain that President Eisenhower met with some NHIs (but which species?), and made some sort of agreement with them.

    This agreement supposedly ran like this; the NHIs would give us some advanced alien tech and, in return, we would allow them to take and examine a certain limited number of humans (the NHI’s purposes for doing this unknown), not harm them, wipe their memories of their taking and examination, and, then, return them to their original location.

    It is also said that shortly after the agreement was made, the NHIs reneged on it and have ever since.

    Do we presently have any relations—face to face relations, or even agreements, with any of these NHIs?

    Who knows?

    Beyond teasing the natives—their Trickster-like actions–do these NHIs have any interest in dealing directly and in person with us, in appearing in a public and very unambiguous way, and in, say, trading with us and, thus, aiding us or, are they essentially ignoring us, presumably lesser and less powerful beings, and just taking what they want/need—whatever that might be?

    (See my earlier comments about author and occult/UFO researcher Peter Levenda’s view, that he sees that many of us are thinking about NHIs as if we are members of a “Cargo Cult”; awaiting the godlike NHIs, our supposed “space brothers” who will “land,” fix all of our problems, hand out all sorts of magical technology—say, among these items, unlimited free, non-polluting energy systems, medical treatments to cure our ills, and perhaps grant us some semblance of immortality–and also to hand us the technology to attain interstellar travel.)

    Of course, speaking of Disclosure, the government’s entire coverup regime could be instantly destroyed at any time, if any of these NHIs decide to “stir the pot,” to make an unmistakable public appearance—the proverbial landing on the White House lawn.

    I have a feeling that–during the next few years– things are going to get real interesting.

  5. huxley, when we bought a house in SE Iowa years ago, a mile west of the Mississippi, we looked at possible damage zones from New Madrid to decide whether to buy earthquake insurance.

  6. Huxley – whenever there is a swarm of quakes in OKC area, I check what’s happening in New Madrid. Still waiting for the “big one”.

    Kate – I also hope that things settle down. When OK was having lots of quakes, the corporation commission revised rules for the wastewater injection wells which reduced the frequency of earthquakes. I’m sure the commission is checking well activity again.

    I bought earthquake insurance after a few minor shakes. The local paper showed a map of minor fault lines and I lived between two of them. Since the bigger quakes, the insurance has gone up. Used to be a cheap rider on the home insurance. Now it is a separate policy.

  7. The [Iraqi Government] WARNS people that- Biden’s retaliation strikes in Iraq and Syria, could destabilize parts of the Middle East.

    (These are the 85 strikes done in 2024, to retaliate vs. a terrorist attack on a US base, a terr. attack that killed 3, US soldiers.)

    One Iraqi, government official said that- one of the US strikes hit a [Popular Mobilization Forces] base in Iraq, + that the PMF forces had NOTHING TO DO with the attack on the US base.

    Since the PMF is very popular with many people in Iraq, this attack on the PMF base will turn some people [against] The US, + the US’ actions in the Middle East.

    The PMF is a group of [my words: private, paramilitary forces, that were built to counter ISIS in Iraq].

    Some of the PMFs have been integrated into Iraq’s military, because some of the PMF groups are allies of the Iraqi military, + are allies that Iraq’s Government [wants] in the Iraq military.

    Not to be unkind, but: a main goal to fighting a war or a combat is to [not] attack the people who support: The USA, + the USA’s allies in the Middle East, and Iraq.

    In my opinion: the Biden administration needs to be very careful, and [not] attack the friends of The US, + the friends of Iraq.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-68144478?pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:fba02a53-f2ba-4c61-ad85-027d1552350e&pinned_post_asset_id=65be399457478648da6f7707&pinned_post_type=share

  8. Snow on Pines:

    Your comment about governments keeping things quiet to avoid the risk of a breakdown in civic order: is this any different from what George Soros is doing? Asking for a friend.

  9. Shirehome

    The staffer on the receiving end represents the people, the guy giving it to him represents Congress.

    Erronius

  10. Indeed, which is why it’s not considered (by the usual suspects) worthy of prosecution…

    Related…(The Doors of [Deception]”)
    “CLARITY ON THE BORDER”—
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/clarity-on-the-border.php
    Opening graf:
    “Realizing that Joe Biden’s open southern border will be a devastating issue in November, Democrats are desperately seeking cover. Their plan is to trick Congressional Republicans into another immigration “compromise” that will legalize much illegal immigration, in exchange for which Biden will belatedly take a few inadequate steps to rein in the invasion. Thus making the border a bipartisan fiasco. How many times have the Democrats used this ploy?….”
    [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]

  11. Some of you may enjoy this superb book review on the Allies’ Italian Campaign of WWII:
    “The Real Italian Job;
    “REVIEW: ‘The Savage Storm: The Battle for Italy 1943’ by James Holland”—
    https://freebeacon.com/culture/the-real-italian-job/
    H/T Powerline blog.
    – – – – – – – – – –
    + Bonus (but only if Kooky Intellectuals are of any interest to anyone…though there’s always the humorous aspect of it…alas it’s not terribly funny…)
    “Prof. Moyn’s Jeremiad Against Limited Government”—
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/04/prof_moyns_jeremiad_against_limited_government_150435.html
    H/T Powerline blog.
    Really just another sophomoric (or rather moronic) reason to trample the Constitution and destroy the country and its foundations…from a—you guessed it!—Harvard prof.
    Key graf:
    ‘ …“What this book actually argues, though its author does not know it or want it to be so, is that the Cold War liberals grasped the most pressing moral problem and political challenge of their lifetime with unwavering clarity,” shrewdly observes Tod Lindberg in reviewing Moyn’s book in Commentary. “They understood that Communism, like Nazism, was evil, and that freedom, which starts with individual liberty, is good in itself, but fragile. They recognized that the ambition on the other side was total – that is, totalitarian – and in hot pursuit of global victory, both ideologically and politically. They sought to thwart this victory as best they could in their area of comparative advantage, the life of the mind.”…’ [Emphasis mine, insofar as it describes perfectly the current iteration of the so-called Democratic Party of the United State; Barry M.]

  12. Wikipedia has a page on people who mysteriously went missing, and links to articles on each of them. It’s good reading if you’re snowed in and out of mystery novels. Those who were found, though, got taken off the page.

  13. Maese-Czeropski’s few defenders called what he filmed in the committee room an “act of love,” and he got away with it.

    Jeb Bush called what millions are doing at the border an “act of love,” and they are getting away with it too.

    It both cases, the video is shocking.

  14. is it because his partner, was a german official, in the labor ministry on sky dragon duty, does he absorb some of the suicidal hamas support, that would have thrown him from the nearest building,

  15. its funny one of the first tv shows I remember was the six million dollar man, the film premiered before the oil shock in Mach 73, the subplot concerns a mission to rescue an arab who is a middleman held hostage in the empty quarter, the foreboding climate is why they needed some one with steve austin’s remarkable stamina, and strength, and even then the government agent, played by darren mcgavin who it is suggested he sabotaged the test flight, to make sure that austin was a candidate, isn’t absolutely sure, that austin could make it, well the mission is not all it seems, but the foolishness of trying to make omelet of the eggs in the middle east is not a new thing

  16. Open Thread Sunday: Military technology

    The Race for Next Generation Air-to-Air Missiles: Range, Sensors & Future Air Dominance – Perun

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FnVJ0ziRTE

    Timestamps:

    00:00:00 — Opening Words
    00:01:14 — What Am I Talking About?
    00:01:56 — History & The Missile Evolution
    00:06:38 — The Future Air War Concept
    00:17:41 — What Makes A Good Missile?
    00:26:42 — The US Inventory
    00:30:10 — Russia
    00:36:03 — PRC
    00:44:58 — European Competitors
    00:51:05 — And Before We Get To The USA
    00:52:28 — The New Programs
    01:00:59 — Bringing This Together
    01:04:21 — Channel Update

  17. To avoid further embarrassment, Chris Sununu should relax, relax, relax and embrace reality. I shudder to think of the alternative – becoming a version of John Kasich, literally a humanoid cancer tumor.

    Or is it already too late?

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