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  1. I am so happy that Joe is going to make the supermarkets reduces prices because they are ripping us off for no reason.

  2. It appears I got something wrong. It doesn’t happen often 😉 , so it’s worth examining.

    For those of you who waste your time reading my words here, you may remember that I was predicting that Robert Kennedy, Jr. and Vivek Ramaswamy may make some serious inroads into ending the two party dominance in our elections through using alternative media to get their message out; mainly podcasts.

    While I think it is true both men reached and impressed a lot of potential voters through alternate media, it is not true that it has made any difference in the two parties’ grip on the election process.

    I sense more and more people dissatisfied with the existing process, but beating it is extremely difficult. Perhaps, if two or more popular, opposing candidates agreed to simultaneously run as Independents?

  3. I saw/heard Steve in Anchorage AK, late 70’s. Opening song, “When The Red, Red Robin Comes Bob, Bob, Bobbin’ Along”. Wonderful! Life long (short, sadly) Cubs fan. The season after Steve passed, his beloved Cubbies finally (longest dry spell until then) made it to the World Series.

  4. I won tickets to see him in Cincinnati in the early 80’s from a radio station. Very entertaining guy.

  5. Svein Oslo — The Cubs didn’t make it to the series again in 2016 (which they won.) They won the East Division title in 1984, which was the year Steve Goodman died. I really only know this because I so love Steve Goodman’s “A Dying Cub Fan’s Last Request.”

    Steve Goodman had a great sense of humor: Watching Joey Glow, Vegematic, You Never Even Call Me By My Name, How Much Tequila Did I Drink Last Night, and of curse, A Dying Cub Fan’s Last Request.

    But he was also a great songwriter. City of New Orleans is such a classic.

  6. Rufus T. Firefly – I think there’s a lot to the argument that Trump beat the two-party system by basically hijacking one of the parties.

    Anyway, Trump v. Biden 2.0 might go along way towards breaking the two party system. If No Labels or another group gets on the ballot in swing states, I would not be surprised at all of someone like Manchin or Hogan does unusually well. Even if they put enough of a scare into the major parties to get them to stop nominating candidates that the electorate hates, it would be progress. And frankly, in the US, that’s how third parties work. They rise based on problems in the D and R team, and then fall when the D and R teams absorb the third party and its issues.

  7. Saw Steve Goodman at the Paramount Theater in Seattle in the 70’s. Great show. A great acoustic guitar player, and some of the sweetest and most incisive songs. One he did that he didn’t write but made his own was “The Dutchman,” as poignant a love song as you’ll ever find: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeBD3rcAMFw

  8. What is truly astonishing is if Michelle Obama is the demokrat nominee for president she would probably obtain 45% to 55% of the vote regardless of which dumbpublican would oppose her.
    If one believes all the polls, it looks like (at least today, anyway) that Trump will be the dumbpublican nominee.

    Not saying MIchelle will run or not; I have no idea, but there is always the possibility that a severe medical issue will force joke bidet to not run.

  9. I think the reverse is true mccain and romney pretended to be republicans but when orange man came on the scene their masks came off

  10. On obamacare on the jerusalem embassy they all discovered reasons not to do something same with the stooges like kinzinger and walsh to name two

  11. JohnTyler,

    It should be no surprise that a celebrity like Michelle Obama or Donald J. Trump garners millions of votes in our country. Popular people are popular. How many votes would Oprah receive? Taylor Swift? George Clooney? Tom Hanks? Jay Z? Kid Rock?

    The answer is limiting the power of the office.
    States have to wrest power and money from the Federal government and cities need to wrest power and money from the States and private individuals need to wrest power and money from the cities.
    The odds of this happening under the current system are almost nil.
    “Hail President Michelle/Clooney/Jay Z!”
    https://youtu.be/CNsCwg5MxP0?si=tn2PcS8QR7ulHHPI

  12. Rufus T. Firefly, I looked at your think tank website. There are some interesting names involved, but count me skeptical that it will do very much.

  13. Certainly peterson lomborg strauss a few others

    The state doesnt limit its power unless struck with a black jack in the back of the head

    The trade agreements tax bills can only be navigated by armies of lawyers, thats how the manaforts the podestas make their way but only one side does jail time

  14. For 16 years no one touched suleimani while he became kingmaker in iraq and later syria as his efps murdered coalition personnel too and fro for 40 years they promised an embassy in jerusalem they promised the repatriation manufacturing but no one did a thing

    Those are real consequences and actions not any of this stupid celebrity garbage like clooney and company that yielded higher prices unsafe streets

    Thats why they had to kill a million people so the river of ballots would flow

  15. Obama pitches this global warming and crt garbage while he parks himself oceanfront in the white part of marthas vineyard like his jive talking reverend wright

    Like would be revolutionary bill ayers or the prince of jerusalem rashid khalidi

    If it wasnt for weinstein where would clooney dafleck and co exactly nowhere

  16. [My words- A US Navy ship’s, Phalanx/gun system, shoots down a cruise missile that was fired at that ship.
    This cruise missile was fired at the ship, by the Houthis…terrorist group].

    I’m glad that this [possibly, travelling at 600 mph], cruise missile was detected + destroyed.

    What is Biden’s military plan, if a Phalanx system [does NOT work], and a Houthi, cruise missile HITS a US Navy, combat ship?

    Are you protecting our military people [enough], President Biden?

    This is a big concern.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/houthi-missile-got-close-us-221324950.html

  17. Kate,

    That was my point. Count me skeptical also. That’s why it has been little noted thus far. But most things that end up changing your life are little noted when they start.

    Two guys named Steve meet at the Homebrew Computer Club in Menlo Park.
    Some nuts cause unrest at the Bürgerbräukeller in 1923.
    An unknown patent clerk publishes four papers in the Annalen der Physik.
    An impoverished Jew is executed in a remote backwater of the Roman Empire.
    Albert Gitchell, an army cook at Camp Funston in Kansas complains of a sore throat in 1918.

    If you were alive in 1971 did you know a business Professor named Klaus Schwab invited some business executives to a conference in Davos, Switzerland?

  18. Hi Rufus,

    Also, just to add to your idea:

    around 1965, a little guy with odd hair + an odd moustache, a guy called…”Charlie Manson”…by his friends- tries out for the music-themed, TV show: “The Monkees”.

    The directors of the TV show, didn’t hire him.

    …I wonder if his life would have turned out any better, if they had let him be, one of The Monkees, on that TV show?

    (Yes, he was THAT Charlie Manson. )

  19. Dang. My gaff.

    It’s possible that Manson trying out for “the Monkees” is a Hollywood rumor.

    But in the 1960s: he DID write the song, “Cease to Exist”.

    Cease To Exist was recorded by “The Beach Boys [band]”, but that band didn’t give him the credit for writing it.

    My goodness.

    Manson tried to create a rock-music career in California, after he wrote that song, but that career fell through.

    I really wish he had chosen to make music, instead of doing other activities.

  20. TR:

    Steven Stills did try out for the Monkees but was ultimately not chosen to be part of the band. The reasons given vary, but one commonly cited reason is that Stills’ teeth and hair were not deemed suitable for television at the time.

    However, it’s often mentioned that Stephen Stills recommended his friend Peter Tork to audition, who did become one of the members of The Monkees.

    One might say fortunately, because had Stills become a Monkee there might not have been a Crosby, Stills and Nash (and later Young). At least if one is a CS&N fan (and sometimes Y).

  21. TR:

    Manson was already way-damaged goods by the time of the Monkees. He came from a totally effed family and had spent much of his life in reform school and prison. He was never going to be a normal, productive citizen or even a depraved rock star.

    The Manson murders occurred at the home of Terry Melcher, Doris Day’s son, who had become a record producer. One of the Beach Boys introduced Manson to Melcher, but Melcher refused to help Manson into the pop biz. Good luck!

    Manson was talented musically. He did write songs and he had a remarkable ability to improvise lyrics on the fly.

  22. Hi huxley,

    Thanks for the info. 🙂

    Yeah, it’s lucky that things turned out well for Steven Stills.

    CS + N is a favorite band of mine. 😀

  23. Miguel,

    That is incredible news! Thanks for sharing that!

    If this experiment is allowed to play out in Latin America it could finally lead to long term, positive economic change for the region.

  24. @ miguel & Rufus > “State-owned companies are sold off & massive deregulation introduced”

    Milei closing multiple government departments & agencies on Day One was great.
    However, the effects of this move will depend on to whom the companies were sold under what terms (see: USSR) and which regulations were removed.

    The USA has to resist any and every move to increase the number of state-owned (and federal-owned) companies (of course they exist, just not as blatantly as in full-on-socialist countries), although I don’t think those are nearly the problem in number and effect as government-controlled companies (through regulations, intimidation, and subsidies).

    One of Trump’s major accomplishments was the reduction in government regulations; if only he had been able to keep that up! (Or down?)

  25. @ Rufus > “But most things that end up changing your life are little noted when they start.”

    The Black Swan Effect; the Tipping Point; the Preference Cascade — all are started by something that seems trivial at the time.

    Much as I admire the ARC Advisory Board for including about a dozen people I recognize and generally agree with, the founding of another Think Tank is in a different league of World Changing. I would put the Federalist Society in that league because of their work increasing the number of conservative judges; FIRE for holding the line in education for freedom of speech and concomitant liberties; and maybe a few others FDD, AEF, Prager U, and the foundation which provides legal defenses — the name escapes me — for people persecuted by the State.

    “If you were alive in 1971 did you know a business Professor named Klaus Schwab invited some business executives to a conference in Davos, Switzerland?”

    With our increasing technological ability to get to the root and source of things these days, it seems to me that we are discovering how many “world changing” movements did, as you say, go generally unremarked in the beginning. OTOH, did even Professor Schwab predict how dominant his conference would become, or was that his plan from the start?

  26. I wonder if there will be more terrorist attacks on conservative foundations?
    “THEY FIREBOMBED MY OFFICE” (John Hinderaker)
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/they-firebombed-my-office.php
    (Noted by Barry yesterday)

    At around 2 am, they broke into the building that houses Center of the American Experiment and two other conservative organizations with which we often collaborate, along with many other businesses. The arsonists set two fires: one was in the first floor corridor between American Experiment’s office and the space we sublease to Take Charge, Kendall and Sheila Qualls’ organization. A second fire was set on the third floor, immediately outside or perhaps actually inside the office of the Upper Midwest Law Center, on whose board I serve. This photo shows what the corridor outside my office looks like:

    There have been several posts at PL since then and some related stories in the “Picks” headlines.
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/after-the-fire.php

    We are all used to being attacked on Twitter, and so on, and I have gotten a few death threats over the years. But having someone actually try to burn down your office is something completely different.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/fbi-atf-investigate-arson-targeting-three-conservative-groups-in-minnesota/

    The perpetrators burned three offices belonging to the Center of the American Experiment, the Upper Midwest Law Center, and TakeCharge. The arson resulted in significant fire damage to the office building. All three groups are located inside the same building in Golden Valley, Minn., a suburb roughly seven miles west of Minneapolis.

    No perpetrators have been identified yet, although American Experiment president and UMLC board member John Hinderaker believes leftists specifically targeted the three organizations.

    “The fires obviously were set by someone,” Hinderaker said in the press release. “They targeted conservative organizations, they didn’t firebomb the chiropractors or psychologists or the Manufacturers Alliance. We are cooperating with the FBI to try to identify the perpetrators.”

    When asked by National Review who he thinks was behind the incident, Hinderaker said it could be any group that isn’t fond of American Experiment and its policies. The think tank, for example, has opposed wind- and solar-energy projects, supported local police after the Black Lives Matter riots following George Floyd’s death, and recently announced that former Israeli prime minister Naftali Bennett will speak at its annual dinner in June.

    Because of American Experiment’s stances on these issues, Hinderaker said the possible perpetrators could have been eco-terrorists, Antifa-type groups, or Hamas supporters.

    The conservative organization has also been critical of Democratic governor Tim Walz’s administration, he noted.

    “There’s really just a wide spectrum of people on the left, and it’s not hard to say who doesn’t like us,” Hinderaker said. “What’s hard to say is who in the world would actually try to burn down our offices. It’s one thing to be attacked on Twitter. It’s something else to have somebody firebomb your office.”

    If the Left starts down this road, and particularly if the perps are identified and not prosecuted (or “never found” like the pipe-bombers of J6), I think we can guarantee a Civil War will result sooner rather than later.

    This bombing, which is the first undeniable terrorist attack on a conservative think tank that I know of, might satisfy the criteria Rufus set for a major tuning point.

  27. I was rather shocked by this snippet:
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    It’s very disruptive to raise your children on a sinking ship, and if you don’t think Canada is a sinking ship, you’re an idiot. We now make less per capita than people in Mississippi. We’re worse off than the people in the worst-off state in the US. Yeah, it’s a race to the bottom. The OECD predicts that we’ll be the worst-performing country in the developed world for the next three decades.

    –Jordan Petrerson, “Canada is a sinking ship” [2:47]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s_4O0mAzZQ

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    I knew their freedoms have been seriously eroding (Hi Jordan!), but I didn’t realize their economy was tanking too.

  28. Hmm…Chat disagrees with Peterson on the first claim but mostly agrees on the second.
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    For 2023, the GDP per capita in Canada was reported to be $53,246.98. Meanwhile, the per capita personal income in Mississippi for the third quarter of 2023 was $48,199. This comparison shows that Canada’s GDP per capita was higher than the per capita personal income in Mississippi for the same period…

    Yes, an analysis from the Business Council of British Columbia, referencing an OECD report, indeed predicts Canada to be the least performing advanced economy over the next decade and even further into the future.
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    I know that I could have googled this stuff, but it was much easier to Better Call Chat. I wonder how Peterson got to his claim of Canada vs Mississippi GDP per capita.

    For the overall US GPD per capita Chat says:
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    The US GDP per capita for the fourth quarter of 2023 was reported to be $83,170
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    So Canada may not be worse off than Mississippi but they are running considerably behind the US.

  29. Often in the course of human events we humans miss key human events that will have a great impact on future human events.

    Rufus:

    I can’t locate the quote, but in my AI researches I’ve run into the claim that by definition you won’t realize you’ve reached the Singularity until it’s too late.

    The Singularity being when current AI technology augmented by other tech surpasses human intelligence, becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, leading to rapid advancements beyond our ability to predict or comprehend.

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