Irish lives don’t matter, and don’t you dare say they do
Police are treating ‘Irish lives matter’ graffiti which has appeared in west Belfast as a ‘hate incident’
The graffiti appeared after signage saying the community “will no longer accept the re-housing of illegal immigrants” was erected in the Suffolk area on Tuesday.
The West Belfast MLA Gerry Carroll said there was no place for this “racist poison”. While Sinn Féin MP Paul Maskey described it as an “attempt to create fear and intimidate people”.
So it’s racist to be against illegal immigration, and it’s racist to say that the lives of the original inhabitants of a country matter.
Duly noted.
What’s especially interesting is how the police in many Western countries have been totally co-opted by the left. I believe that the police crack down on those on the right because the police are far less afraid of them than they are of the left and especially of activist Muslims. According to my calculations, about 6% to 7% of the current population of Dublin is Muslim, which represents a significant number.
A hideous piece of speech suppression legislation passed the Irish parliament by a 6.5 to 1 margin. Their political class is awful and most of the Irish public are content with that. At least in this country, the split is 50-50. I cannot be bothered with Ireland anymore. Give their dissenters asylum if needs be.
What only the truly honest are saying is, for the progressive, “White lives don’t matter.”
Once we get that…it all becomes clear.
It is insane looking around and seeing just how many politicians actively hate their country’s native citizens.
What’s worse is that this seems to have become the norm.
Related:
“Authorities Demand Access To Private Social Media Conversations To Spy On Anti-Mass Migration Sentiment”—
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/authorities-demand-access-private-social-media-conversations-spy-anti-mass-migration
That would seem to be trending…
The next step would be to do what Trudeau did to the truckers several years back when they protested about masking up (and other Covid-related issues), IOW, make it impossible for them to access their back accounts and support themselves and their families.
There are no doubt other ways to “ensure compliance” in the pipeline—think WEF/WTF—e.g., restrict access to healthcare, reduce (or eliminate) parental rights—we see that happening vis-a-vis the Left’s transgender strategy to destroy families and children…all under the rubric of “HUMAN RIGHTS” (which is the playbook for many forms of governmental coercion and persecution)….
Nothing new here, though, in this thuggish, coward-driven, bullying Brave New World….
Anti-Dystopics of the World Unite?
The powers that be are making an enormous mistake.
Not just WEF, but the EU too, is stinking up their Ruling Class.
Their defenestration and worse cannot come soon enough.
This community has a long history of invisible community organization and concomitant actions. That is what their leaders are afraid of–once that gets going “Katie bar the door”
Pols are looking to select who they represent rather than act as if the are selected by who the represent. That mindset is what the poison of gerrymandering gets us here in America.
This graffiti, and the condemnation of it, were in Belfast, and the police response is typical of the UK, unfortunately. A quick look at stats at Wikipedia indicates the Muslim population of Northern Ireland is about .6%, substantially lower than your calculated 6%-7% for Dublin.
So the UK’s opinion is that Irish lives don’t matter? History hasn’t changed much on that.
That mindset is what the poison of gerrymandering gets us here in America.
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It isn’t. Gerrymandering has been a phenomenon since the early 19th century. Democratic politicians seeking to pack the meeting with imported persons has been party policy for about 30 years.
Some, Select [Black] Lives Matter SS BLM
Diversity is a many colored, classicist doctrine of affirmative discrimination.
Baby Lives Matter (BLM)
Democratic gerrymandering.
Update:
Ireland Declares Asking An Immigrant To Stop Stabbing You A Hate Crime
“We will not tolerate racist slurs such as, ‘Please, stop stabbing me, I’m dying’. That sort of hate has no home here in Ireland,” said Varadkar. “The vile, xenophobic backlash against people stabbing people ends today.”
Ireland is no longer the country I knew, experienced, and loved when I used to go there back in the day.
Neither is America, but that’s a different topic.
The Irish collectively sold themselves down the EU river and the ongoing destruction of their country, not to mention their ancient culture and unique identity, is the result. They literally lost their religion(s), got woke, embraced multiculturalism and diversity and socialism, and now they are about to be consumed by the furies their misbegotten progressive/leftist policies and passions unleashed.
I still love “Irish America”, but that has long been a separate entity, a thing unto itself, once (but no longer) closely related to the mother country.
The Big Fella (Michael Collins), Billy Yeats, and all the rest of the Irish poets, patriots, and notables, too numerous to name here, must be weeping in their graves.
“Sure, it’s terrible thing.”
I’m thinking of changing my online moniker.
Let us know what it is, IrishOtter. We are so happy to hear “full recovery” is on your horizon.
“They literally lost their religion(s), got woke, embraced multiculturalism and diversity and socialism, and now they are about to be consumed by the furies their misbegotten progressive/leftist policies and passions unleashed.” This sounds like what’s happening to allegedly Irish, actually half English, Joe Biden.
A little over a week ago, multiple assailants engaged in a knife attack while shouting about “stabbing white people” in the town of Crepol, France. Several injured and one dead.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/11/28/stab-white-people-village-attack-could-be-tipping-point-warns-govt/
French officials jawboned about not taking the law into your own hands and that France may be at a dangerous tipping point. OK, fine. Being something of the true crime story junkie, and having seen numerous examples of French justice in the wake of heinous crimes, I’m not too impressed generally.
Then there is this:
Oh my, guilty of “ultra-right” demonstrations. Inquiring minds schooled in Orwell want to know what they actually did. Never mind, throw the book at them.
Kate:
Thanks. If I change my moniker, everyone will know my new name. I’m still thinking about this however. Because . . .
My present moniker is derived from the name of one of my Irish great-grandmothers, Lizzy Luttrell, who immigrated to America as an infant with her family (11 souls) in 1849. They lived in a section of Dublin called “Luttrell’s Town”. Luttrell is cognate with French “loutre”, which means otter. The Irish Luttrells were descendants of the Norman Luttrells, who came to Ireland as mercenaries and decided to stay, you know, “for awhile.” Being Normans, that means they were Scandinavians. Lizzy Luttrell’s father, my great-great grandfather, Alexander Luttrell, owned the building which now houses the famous Davy’s Pub at 50 Duke Street. The Luttrells were Church of Ireland members, like Yeats, which means they “greens” allied with the Catholics. Three of Lizzy’s brothers, my great-uncles, enlisted in Illinois (Union) volunteer regiments at the start of the Civil War; one was killed in action at Chickamauga, another died of diphtheria in a hospital nearby, a third was wounded an invalided for life. Lizzy herself married a Catholic lad from Tipperary, William Burke, my great-grandfather: they met in Decatur Illinois (which then had a thriving Irish community) after the war. William enlisted in the Union Army when he was 15, lying about his age to get in; he served in an Illinois cavalry regiment, was wounded and invalided out of the service, and died fairly young (age 56) because of the lingering effects of his wound.
So all the male members of my Irish line who were born in Ireland volunteered to fight in the war to preserve the Union; they served, fought, and were either wounded or killed while they still spoke English with thick Irish accents.
I’m very proud of them, and that’s why I am reluctant to give up my Irish moniker.
*Lizzy died just five years before I was born (in 1950). She was 96 years old and still collecting William;s Union Army pension when she passed.
The Normans who settled in Ireland very quickly assimilated into the native Celtic society: unlike the Normans in England, who dominated the Saxon population as overlords, they assimilated eagerly and willingly and fully, becoming, as the saying goes, “more Irish than the Irish” (Hiberniores Hibernis ipsis.)
IrishOtter49, any relation to Marcus Luttrell of Lone Survivor Navy Seal fame?
IrishOtter49:
Thanks for sharing your story! Perhaps you could keep your username to honor the Ireland you loved.
I have a French-American friend who feels she has lost France as her motherland. It’s hard for her.
Gerrymandering is changing the electoral boundaries to change your constituents. Changing your constituents within existing electoral boundaries is the Curley effect. Named after James Michael Curly the first Irish-American mayor of Boston. Curley used policy to push the WASPs out of Boston. This is happening across the US today in urban polities where immigration, soft on crime policies, and taxes have driven the Republican voting middle class out. Republicans in purple states need to learn how to retaliate, pushing policies that drive out democrat leaning polities.
@ Anne > “This community has a long history of invisible community organization and concomitant actions.”
Indeed.
https://www.econlib.org/the-pros-and-cons-of-irish-democracy/
Of course, there are varying opinions on which laws and rules are good, and which are bad.
However, I don’t doubt that pushing people into ignoring any laws at all is ultimately not a wise plan.
(Having a government that is itself ignoring its own rules and laws is not quite the same, but also has deleterious effects of a different order.)
To paraphrase Mark Steyn (because I’ve lost the exact quote), if you prevent people from influencing the government through reasonable means, they will turn to unreasonable ones.
(Leftists seem to go straight to the unreasonable means without even trying the reasonable ones; they believe that losing elections means they have been “prevented” rather than just rejected.)
Aesop’s Corollary: Once the government signals that unreasonable means are valid for some groups, it is inevitable that other groups will use the same means.
If the government then forcibly squelches the actions of the unfavored group, the recourse is either underground resistance or open war.
Related (with a curious twist):
“IRELAND GOES FASCIST”—
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/11/ireland-goes-fascist.php
Opening grafs:
“An Irish author has just won the Booker prize:
‘Irish author Paul Lynch won the Booker Prize on Sunday. His novel, Prophet Song, imagines an Ireland that has fallen under Right-wing totalitarian control, and begins with members of the new secret police rapping on the door of a union leader to interrogate him for “sowing discord and unrest” against the government.’
“The reality, of course, is precisely the opposite….”
[All emphasis mine; Barry M.]
Keep the name, IrishOtter49. It’s a family history to be proud of.
“As a Jew” I really want popcorn.
Thanks to all for your comments on my admittedly long-winded post. You have convinced me to keep my name.
Incidentally, my most treasured family heirloom is the original sepia-tone photograph of one of my great uncles, Alexander Luttrell, standing tall in his brand new Union Army uniform with his brand new (and very long) rifle at his side. A slender young man, with a serious expression (as was the custom of the time — one did not smile for photographs), but clearly proud to be a soldier of the Union: he was just 21 or 22 and already had two children.
Two years later he was among the fallen on the Chickamauga battlefield, serving in an Illinois regiment that took part in the valiant stand made by the force commanded by George Henry Thomas (“The Rock of Chickamauga”) to cover the Union Army’s withdrawal.
I still love “Irish America”, but that has long been a separate entity, a thing unto itself, once (but no longer) closely related to the mother country.
The first time I visited Ireland I found the people not very friendly. Not hostile but cool. I told an Irish friend of mine about it and he replied, “They know the cream left.” The present citizens of Ireland are those descended from the numbers who stayed and put up with the abuse.
I support keeping the name IrishOtter49. Glad to hear you are back–pray the recovery continues!
When I visited England and Scotland as a young woman, I thought, because of my English and Scottish ancestry, I would find it homelike. I even met some actual distant cousins. But I discovered that, culturally, I am not English. I’m American.
To Irish Otter:
What’s the story, if any, behind the “black Irish?”
I first heard of this term on a business trip to BC, Canada . The fellow I was talking too (fair skinned, light colored hair) whose ancestors were Irish, had two sons. One fair skinned and light colored hair, and the other dark skin and dark haired.
They looked nothing alike.
He told me that his darker skinned son had “black Irish” blood. He told me that the black Irish were descended from Spaniards (from the Spanish Armada) that had washed up on Irish shores and settled in Ireland.
Is this true??
Your response will be appreciated.
“Silent, dogged resistance” is indeed incumbent upon all of us at this time. The TranshomoHamasClimateBorderlessCRT crowd is loud and intense. None of us will win an argument with them because they think rational, reality based thinking is white Christian nationalist fascism, and will not engage with it. We have to have energy and passion of our own to face them down, one by one and collectively. Ending welfare (these people have plenty of cash) and public school unions (too many are public school teachers) will go a long way to reducing their time and passion for their destructive work.
PS My wife is American Irish, and my children recently went on a trip around Ireland and Scotland (part of my background). The reported that Galway was immensely friendly and fun; they were immediately taken in as long lost cousins. Limerick, on the other hand, was sad, cold, and depressing. Dublin was… just another big city.
John,
The notion that the “black Irish” were descendants of Spaniards who escaped the destruction of the Armada is a myth, and has been proven as such.
My understanding of the term is that it refers to an Irish type with black hair and (often) blue eyes, and pale coloring — very common in Ireland and among the Celtic peoples in general, probably the most common, actually. The “raven-haired beauty with alabaster shoulders” is a favorite Irish romance image.
I was born with blond hair, green eyes, a spray of freckles across my nose, and a complexion which burns but never tans, and makes me susceptible to skin cancer (which I have dealt with on more than one occasion). By the time I turned five the blond had turned black, and the freckles had mostly disappeared; the eyes stayed (and remain green), and my skin still burns with even minimal exposure to the sun. E.g., on tropical island-type vacations, I skulk mostly in the shade of palm trees and layer myself in no. 75 sunblock. Trips to destinations on or around the equator are especially problematic, even dangerous if I don’t take the proper precautions.
I did have red hair in my beard (on those rare occasions when I allowed it to grow out) but when the red began to manifest as white in my late 30s I forswore facial hair altogether.
I believe the blond hair of my infancy is due in part to my Irish-Scandinavian (specifically Danish) ancestry, and in part to my father’s 100 percent Teutonic ancestry.
Fun fact: the Irish-German ancestry mix is still the most common mix in the American Midwest. So common, I have half-jokingly considered claiming it as a bona fide ethnicity, sort of along the lines of the Canadian Metis, and establishing a website to
firmly stake my claim. When I joined the Irish American Heritage Center in Chicago I laughed and told the person taking my application that I hoped she didn’t mind that my surname was German; to which she replied, also laughing, that half the membership had German or Polish surnames.
I don’t quite know the origin of darker or olive-complected skin in people of Celtic descent, but I’m guessing it comes from the pre-Celtic peoples (the semi-mythical”Firbolg”?) who inhabited the British Isles before the coming of Indo-European peoples (e.g., Celts, or Gaels). Robert Kee, in his magnificent three-volume work, “The Green Flag: A History of Irish Nationalism,” asserts that all people of “Irish” descent are swimmers in a diverse gene pool: Celtic, Scandinavian, pre-Indo-European, and only God knows what else.
This graffiti, and the condemnation of it, were in Belfast, and the police response is typical of the UK
Thanks for pointing that out, Kate. Not being attuned to Irish politics, I tend to forget that Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are separate countries.
I grant you the Black Irish.
Indo-European.
But Otter, what about the red hair?