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Open thread 10/30/23 — 48 Comments

  1. yes they probably can only slum at the Commodore Hotel or the prime ministers yacht in younieh harbor,

  2. It would be so sad to read that Khaled wanted to see if he could fly from the Penthouse Suite.

  3. Any suggestions for me getting a dog as an old man who is not as nimble as he used to be? (can take long walks but not run)
    Criteria:
    1. Man’s best friend – likes to hang by my side as opposed to running off after any little thing
    2. Friendly to strangers
    3. Average size or bigger
    4. Does not shed copiously
    5. Does not bark a lot

  4. Bill K:

    An older dog and not a puppy; I would suggest a mid-sized cockerpoo or labradorite. The poodle mixes tend not to shed.

  5. Shirehome:

    Or take a flight on Air Pirgozhin?

    But why leave Qatar or London? Those are the hot spots for senior Hamashites.

  6. Jewish students at Cornell receive death threats. Will the American Jew ever wake up to the real threat???

  7. Just read that Shani Louk has been confirmed dead. They found parts of her skull for the id. Looks like she had been decapitated. She the young Israeli/German girl seen being taken from the back of vehicle and forced into another vehicle I believe. Taken at the Music Festival. All those pro Palis students really need a reality check. I am so disgusted by them, and afraid for America’s future.

  8. RE: UFOs and the struggle within the government/DOD over Disclosure

    Many who have studied the UFO phenomenon see a pattern to government statements and actions regarding UFOs which show evidence of a constant struggle—that’s been going on, now, for eight decades or more–between those within the government who favor keeping everything regarding UFOs secret, and those who favor some level of Disclosure, and it is those who favor Secrecy who have almost always won.

    As recent evidence of this ongoing struggle we have, for example, the seemingly clueless public presentation and performance of the two high level DOD officials—DOD Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security Ronald Moultrie, and Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence Scott Bray–at the first UFO Hearing in 50 years held in May of 2022, both of whom professed to have what amounts to even less knowledge about the UFO phenomenon, its modern history of many decades duration, major incidents, or of the government’s ongoing involvement with this issue going back to at least WWII than the average TV viewer likely has.

    (Did the DOD deliberately send officials to brief Congress who actually had little to no knowledge of this subject, or was their ignorance feigned?)

    This apparent little bit of Kabuki is contrasted with the TV interviews and sworn testimony to Congress of AF and IC whistleblower David Grusch and the other two witnesses at the most recent June 2023 Hearing, coupled with the IC Inspector General’s judgment that the sworn testimony and evidence Grusch, and supporting witnesses, presented to him about this issue was both “credible and urgent.”

    Before he made any public statements about what he found out about the government’s highly secret and concealed UFOs crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs, and the alien bodies (the “biologics”) they had recovered, David Grusch submitted a list of the things he intended to say, and these things were OK’d by the DOD’s Defense office of Prepublication and Security Review (DOPSA) as were the recent statements in the October 2023 book, “Inside the U.S. Government Covert UFO Program: Initial Revelations,” coauthored by Dr. James T. Lacatski, Colm A. Kelleher, and George Knapp, which contained the following paragraph at the beginning of Chapter 9, “DIRD Research Goals”–

    “At the conclusion of a 2011 meeting in the Capitol building with a U.S. Senator and an Agency Under Secretary, Lacatski, the only one of the book’s authors present, asked a question. He (the Senator, Lacatski?) stated that the U.S. was in possession of a craft of unknown origin and had successfully gained access to it’s interior. This craft had a streamlined configuration suitable for aerodynamic flight, but no intakes, exhaust, wings, or control surfaces. In fact, it appeared not to have an engine, fuel tanks, or fuel. Lakatski asked: What was the purpose of this craft? Was it a life-support craft useful only for atmospheric reentry or what? If it was a spacecraft, how did it operate?”

    (In the case of Grusch, it has been suggested by some that by allowing Grusch to say certain things DOPSA avoided his revealing even more evidence of these secret buried UFO programs. Moreover, while DOPSA allowed Grash to say specific things which DOPSA found not to violate any secrecy regulations, in the same permission letter DOPSA specifically refused to let Grusch present any documents or images to support his claims. DOPSA also said that DOPSA did not say that anything that Grusch asserted was true, only that what he asserted did not violate any security regulations.)

    So,which side are the officials at DOPSA on—the side of Secrecy, or of Disclosure?

    On the secrecy side we also have ARRO’s Dr. Shaun Kirpatrick and DOD spokeswoman Susan Gough, who keep saying that neither the DOD nor AARO have found any “credible” evidence that UAPS might be of extraterrestrial origin.

    Most recently, again on the Secrecy side, we have the statement from Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchette–who has been one of the chief members of Congress pushing for more government UFO transparency–about how, when the DOD finally provided him a classified UFO briefing in a SCIF—as with the two high level briefers in the first Congressional Hearing–this DOD briefer had only a very narrow, limited amount of knowledge about the subject, and according to Burchette, added nothing to what he already knew about this subject.

    So, count this as another attempt to stonewall Congress by the DOS’s UFO Secrecy faction.

    (Again, was someone whose knowledge of this subject was very limited in scope deliberately selected by DOD to be the briefer?)

    This action contrasted with the Senate Schumer Amendment to the 2024 NDAA, which aims to force the government to produce whatever it knows about UFOs, to document it’s long involvement with them, and to give up any retrieved UFOs and/or NHI “biologics.”

    This legislation mentions NHIs* 21 times, as well as also referring to “technology of unknown origin.”**

    I submit that as experienced and canny a politician as Senator Schumer would not sponsor such legislation unless he had knowledge that such things as NHIs and such “technology of unknown origin ” did, in fact, exist.

    *This legislation defines NHI as–

    ‘‘non-human intelligence’’ means any sentient intelligent non-human lifeform regardless of nature or ultimate origin that may be presumed responsible for unidentified anomalous phenomena or of which the Federal Government has become aware.”

    ** Technologies of unknown origin are defined in this proposed legislation as–

    “… any materials or meta-materials, ejecta, crash debris, mechanisms, machinery, equipment, assemblies or sub-assemblies, engineering models or processes, damaged or intact aerospace vehicles, and damaged or intact ocean-surface and undersea craft associated with unidentified anomalous phenomena or incorporating science and technology that lacks prosaic attribution or known means of human manufacture. “

  9. Bill K—Seems counterintuitive, but I used to have a huge 180 pound English Mastiff couch potato dog, he looked ferocious and had a thunderous bark, but he was very gentle and barked only infrequently.

    All in all a wonderful dog, but you need to train him so that he is socialized, and won’t lunge ahead on a leash and pull you down.

  10. Bill K.,

    We stumbled into West Highland Terrie “Westie” ownership and learned a fair amount about the breed out of necessity. I highly recommend a Westie as a pet dog.

    They are very intelligent. They are a manageable size. They don’t need a big space, or a lot of exercise, but will keep up with whatever activity you ask of them. Very good around humans. They are social and have a really happy, friendly look about them. Just about every waking moment our Westie seemed to be trying to cipher out what would please us and, once determined, do that thing. We met a lot of other Westie owners while walking ours and they shared similar stories of their dogs and the breed.

  11. Another open-thread comment about something I read.

    After the shootings in Maine, the usual suspects have screamed for more gun control, but the case of Robert Card suggests that we should try something else. Since the late 1950’s, the country’s been conducting an experiment in the deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill. As a result, we have large numbers of crazy homeless people and small numbers of crazy mass murderers. These are both tragedies, and both can be mitigated by mental health care reform. Reversing deinstitutionalization doesn’t mean we need to go back to Bedlam. We just need to get people like Robert Card off the street. He’s far from unique, and people like him often follow a depressing pattern. Since it’s an established pattern, we have a target for both legal and medical reform.

    Here are a few relevant bits from a paper documenting that pattern:

    1. “[M]ore than 60% of the mass public shooters had been either diagnosed with a mental disorder or demonstrated signs of serious mental illness prior to the attack.”

    2. “Perhaps as a consequence of the high rate of mental illness and, more narrowly, paranoid schizophrenia, mass public shooters often believe they have been persecuted. For most mass public shooters, the attack is an act of vengeance against those whom the shooter holds responsible for his or her perceived mistreatment.”

    3. “[M]ass public shootings are usually preceded by a great deal of planning and deliberation. As mass public shooters ruminate over the idea of exacting revenge and begin devising plans for their attack, they sometimes communicate threats either verbally or in writing.”

    4. “After the shootings, 57% of mass public shooters committed suicide or forced others (mostly police) to kill them. The rate of suicidal behavior among mass public shooters is nearly double the rate for other mass killers and more than 10 times higher than that observed for homicide offenders in general.”

    (Duwe, G. (2019). Patterns and prevalence of lethal mass violence. Criminology & Public Policy, 19(1), 17–35. doi:10.1111/1745-9133.12478)

  12. Oh HELLL no. One of those “dog groomers” comes near my dog with a bottle of colored dye or wanting to buzz designs into her fur and they’re going to be peeing dye and pulling clipper components from various parts of their anatomy for a week.

    They should be charged with animal cruelty just for putting those poor dogs through the indignity of it all. (I’m joking…sort of).

    Bill K: Big dogs (Mastiff, St Bernard, Great Dane etc) tend to be less energetic and need less exercise than small dogs. They actually tend to make really good apartment dogs because they don’t need a lot of running room. The issue is they’re big…they eat (and poop) a lot. Plus they don’t live as long as smaller dogs. If you get more of a medium sized dog, (lab, shepherd, Pitty, etc) I’d recommend an older one that’s well past the puppy phase.

    PLEASE adopt a rescue. There are so many great dogs out there that need loving homes that you can adopt for a fraction of the cost of buying a dog from a breeder or pet store. You’ll want to be picky and not choose one that’s been so badly abused it will never really warm up to you, but even dogs that have been abused can often get past that and be loving companions.

    We just rescued a 1 year old female Pit Bull that had been locked in a filthy kennel virtually 24/7 her whole life. She was severely underweight and she’s obviously been abused, probably by a man…she took to my wife right away but whenever I got close to her, she’d tuck her tail and cower. Today is our 5th day with her and she’s really starting to come out of her shell. She’s no longer afraid of me, she’s about 90% housebroken already, she learned “sit” and “stay” in about an hour and she’s now comfortable on the leash and doesn’t pull at all…just walks along beside us. I took her to Lowes with me yesterday to help get her more accustomed to both me and the outside world…she did great.

    Taking a dog that has been neglected and abused, nursing them back to physical and emotional health and giving them a loving home is one of the most rewarding things in my life. Our last rescue just passed a few months ago and, as hard as that is, it meant we could save another and give her a good life. We can’t save them all, but we can save this one…and so we will.

  13. RE: Snow on Pine

    The really disturbing issue in your comments is that government. agencies, apparently all of them, decide what the US Congress needs to know.

    This is absolute bullshit.

    All government agencies were created by the US Congress and, supposedly, must provide any and all information that Congress demands. Congress is supposed to have oversight over all federal agencies.
    But realistically, they do not.
    Pick any agency and they, for all intents and purposes, just tell Congress to F off when they wish to keep things secret.

    Of course, Congress is also at fault, because they do zero when they do not receive what they demand. Congress must find a way to severely punish – job loss with loss of pension, arrest. criminal indictments and real threat of prison time , etc. – those within the deep state (i.e., the ENTIRE federal buraucracy) that defy in any way (e.g., obfuscate, lie, stall, refuse to appear, etc.) the will of Congress.

    Congress supposedly set up federal agencies to address specific tasks, but let’s face it, that purpose went out the window years ago. The greater the number of agencies and the broader their responsibilities, the less real work members of Congress have to do.
    They just fob off onto the agencies the real work that they, Congress, is constitutionally obligated to perform.

    The UFO topic is just one of the many examples of govt. agencies that does whatever the hell they choose and keep secret whatever they choose to keep secret

    The US govt. is totally out of control and many of its agencies need to be abolished.

  14. Bill K,

    If you want a medium to slightly large dog that’s easy going, friendly, low energy, consider a retired racing greyhound.

    They’re already potty-trained. And despite what you may think, these guys don’t need a lot of exercise – they are couch potatoes. They run around the yard one time a day and that’s all the big exercise they need. Walkies are encouraged, but not necessary.

    I’ve had two, and I can’t recommend them enough.

    JMHO

  15. Bill K – agree with neo, no puppies, given your criteria. I’ve owned dogs all my life. Best one I ever had was a Boston Terrier. Smart, affectionate, and never barked.

  16. I’ll 2nd the motion on “retired racing greyhound.” We had one.

    They are truly the “cat of the dog world.” Sleeps a bunch. Not yappy. Can take or leave guests…so not highly or easily agitated. Likes to call their crate their “castle.” Enjoys a leisurely walk.

    Many rescue organizations will train for the degree of “tolerance” of which the animal is capable…ie… kid-friendly, other pets tolerant, stranger acceptance…etc…not all animals are created equal.

    Here endeth the sales pitch.
    Will the ushers please collect the offerings while the choir sings…
    Oops… sorry. Wrong venue 😉

  17. Daily Mail, “EXCLUSIVE: DoJ officials are accused of spying on watchdogs Jason Foster and Kash Patel who were overseeing Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Trump-Russia collusion”:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12680269/DoJ-officials-spying-watchdogs-Trump-Russia-collusion.html

    The Department of Justice illegally surveilled congressional lawyers in a ‘blatant abuse’ of power, according to the targets of the newly revealed snooping.
    Top GOP congressional lawyers were investigating the Justice Department in 2017 over its controversial Russian collusion probe, codenamed ‘Crossfire Hurricane’.

    But new documents reveal that at the same time, the DoJ office they were probing was spying on their phone calls and emails in an allegedly illegal ‘fishing expedition’.

    DailyMail.com can reveal that one of the key players in the scandalous surveillance was Tejpal Chawla, a federal prosecutor who has donated to Democrat campaigns.

    One of the congressional lawyers targeted by Chawla’s snooping is now demanding documents from the DoJ, and another is suing the Department claiming it violated constitutional protections in a ‘blatant abuse’ of power.

    Another day ending in “y”, eh?

  18. Bill K

    If you choose to adopt a shelter dog one of them is gonna choose you. You’ll know

  19. 1. “[M]ore than 60% of the mass public shooters had been either diagnosed with a mental disorder or demonstrated signs of serious mental illness prior to the attack.”
    ==
    A ‘mental disorder’ could be just about anything and ‘serious mental illness’ isn’t the most precise term either. And fully 40% don’t fall under either heading.
    ==
    About 0.5% of the population resided in state asylums in 1955. It’s been pointed out (by Clayton Cramer) that the potential clientele for asylums is much smaller today than it was then: you have today nursing homes for the senile, you have group homes for the retarded and the like, tertiary syphilis has disappeared, and schizophrenics can commonly be supervised by family members working with outpatient psychiatrists. Twenty-four hour care is exceedingly expensive and coercive, so it is properly a last resort. The problem we have at this time is that civil commitment law makes the imperative individual rights rather than community interest. The public interest bar generates ruin.
    ==
    You’ve always had vagrants. You used to have more housing options for people in general and the economically marginal in particular. To the extent that effective demand caused some to disappear, you have an intractable problem. To the extent that the tax and / or regulatory regime did so, there may be an avenue to reduce the quantum of obtrusive vagrancy.
    ==
    The Census Bureau delineates in each state a set of ‘urbanized areas’, essentially agglomerations wherein census block groups have population densities exceeding 500 persons per square mile. Imagine you rank order the block groups in each urbanized area according to per capita income, lowest-to-highest. You scroll-down the rank-order calculating a running balance of population. When you’ve reached a value which amounts to 15% of the total population, you’ve identified the block groups in ‘Area C’. Continue calculating your running balance, and when you’ve reached a value which amounts to 20% of the total population, the additional set of block groups you’ve identified are ‘Area B’. The rest of the block groups are ‘Area A’. Ordinarily, municipalities, school districts, miscellaneous special district authorities, and counties would be obligated to levy a uniform rate on all taxable property (x% of assessed valuation). Authorities with ‘Area C’ and ‘Area B’ territory would be obligated to have multiple rates: x% for Area A properties, 0.5x% for Area B, and 0% for Area C properties. The % of assessed valuation lost due to the imposition of abatements could be calculated and the affected local authorities would be granted an expanded franchise to collect value-added taxes to substitute for the lost property tax revenue. At the same time, you could dispense property holders in Area B and Area C from low-priority items in building codes and scrap certain substantive restrictions and procedural impediments in land-use law. This might just work to expand the available supply of berths in emergency shelters, flop houses, boarding houses, and apartment buildings with shared kitchens and the like.
    ==
    Note also a certain amount of the problem with vagrancy comes from police being told to stand down or hitting the doughnut shop due to demoralization promoted by sh!tty politicians. You have vagrants camping out in public parks because beat cops are not rousting them.
    ==
    IMO, there’s not much you can do about ‘mass shooters’ except persuade the local media not to give them the notoriety they seek so as not to stoke copycatting and to make generous provision for concealed carry so that they can be taken out quickly by armed citizens. The few that survive should be processed with dispatch by state courts and executed. (Federal intervention into the Pittsburgh synagogue case has dragged out the disposition of the matter unconscionably). You can chastise police for not following up on red flags, but before you do that you might calculate the number of false positives with which police are presented.

  20. Another source of vagrancy is drug abuse, but blue state politicians are all in on expanding the menu of legal stupefacients and not punishing those in possession of the unlawful ones. Liberals are horrible.

  21. Daily Mail, “EXCLUSIVE: DoJ officials are accused of spying on watchdogs Jason Foster and Kash Patel who were overseeing Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Trump-Russia collusion”:
    ==
    Once more with feeling: reduce big time the quantum of verbiage in the federal penal code, recalibrate the sentencing in the code so it resembles the median state code, established specialized bureaux to enforce it scattered over several departments, sort the functions of prosecution and investigation into different departments, replace federal grand juries with preliminary hearings, fire all the line employees in the FBI headquarters, fire all the management employees in the FBI at large, and break up the agency. You should also purge the legal staff of the Department of Justice (starting with those implicated in recent scandals) and debar lawyers employed therein from remaining so employed for more than 12 years in any bloc of 14. And can we please disbar lawyers guilty of prosecutorial misconduct?

  22. JohnTyler–RE: # 1—UFOs struggle w/in government over Disclosure

    The “UFO Community” is a jumbled mess of all sorts of personalities, their “truths” and their theories—some much more knowledgeable and credible than others, a con man here and there, and some just flat out nut jobs.

    I suspect that the many decade’s long government UFO disinformation campaign is responsible for a lot of this high level of disruption, disorder, and confusion, false trails, and dead ends.

    While a very few government witnesses and leaks about UFOs—here and there–have appeared over the decades, and documents have occasionally been pried out of the government via FOIA requests, it seems as if knowledge about these very secret programs is very spotty throughout the government—some people genuinely know nothing, some know perhaps piece or two of the puzzle, and a very few—perhaps only a handful of people, know the full story.

    But, it seems as if Congress is apparently really not in the loop.

    Consider this—whoever is able to unlock the technology behind UFOs and their flight characteristics—virtually unlimited power, anti-gravity propulsion systems, transmedium travel—traveling from space, down through our atmosphere, into our oceans and back again, in an instant, real space travel and access to the Galaxy, to name a few–would have access to enormous, unbeatable, unlimited power, capabilities, control, opportunities, and potentially unlimited income as a result.

    One “conspiracy”* theory is that while this research started out as a government project, over the several decades since they started in the 1940s—and as the enormous potential of unlocking these secrets was realized–these extremely secret and extremely closely held crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs drifted further and further away from government knowledge, oversight, and control, until they now may constitute what Senator Rubio recently referred to as–”a government within the government”–a small group of rogue government and/or private aerospace corporation officials who answer only to themselves, and whose aims and activities may be far different from that of our government or citizens.

    One thing is for sure, and that is that the government has been aware of and engaged with the UFO phenomenon since at least the beginning of WWII, and perhaps even before.

    So, when government officials pretend that the government is just puzzled—just puzzled, I say–about a UFO phenomenon which just recently came to their attention, and that they just don’t have enough “data” about the UFO phenomenon, that is a crock of steaming horseshit. (Of course, what some elements of the government seem to be doing, is to find officials who know almost nothing about the UFO phenomena, and putting them before Congress as witnesses or briefers.)

    #2—Government officials and corporation official’s contempt for Congress.

    If you look at many of the Hearings over these last few years, you will note that witnesses sometimes refuse to show up, they just refuse to answer questions, or they have mysterious global memory lapses, play all sorts of games, and display a general attitude of disrespect and contempt for Congress.

    Unfortunately, I don’t see that Congress, itself, has any available enforcement mechanism other than the ability of the House to cut funding, and that doesn’t seem to be something that the House really wants to do.

    There is the Sergeant at Arms, but I believe that he last instance of them hauling someone in before Congress who refused to appear was many decades ago, and I am not aware of anyone, in modern times, who has been actually locked up for such refusal.

    P.S. Politics plays a huge role here, so that you have things like former Attorney General Eric Holder being held in “Contempt of Congress,” but since he was the one who handpicked the officials who would have had to carry this forward and indict, arrest, and try him, I believe that nothing effective was ever actually taken any further after he was cited.

    * As I wrote here some weeks ago, the term “conspiracy theory” is one of those “thought stopper ” words and phrases, designed to stop the investigation and debate about whatever the topic of discussion was, and to divert attention to and now examine the bona fides, perspicasity, and even the sanity of someone who would be gullible enough to believe something like a “conspiracy theory,” or be a “racist,” sexist, Nazi, “phobe’ of any kind , fascist, etc., etc.

  23. Sailorcurt:
    Thank you for adopting a shelter dog!
    After retiring I volunteered at a shelter in the Bronx. The need is so great.
    (I have a pit bull and 2 small dogs from said shelter!)

  24. All: thanks for all the advice on picking a dog!

    Sailorcurt, there is an animal rescue not far away, and I do plan to go there first.

  25. This Time It’s Different Dept.

    South Park’s “Joining the Panderverse” has gone over big and is making waves. Here’s a flattering piece from “Forbes”:
    _________________________________

    The brilliance of South Park’s latest special, “Joining The Panderverse,” is in Matt Stone and Trey Parker’s ability to skewer all sides of a fraught cultural debate.

    The 47-minute episode is able to call out Disney’s laziness and the general laziness of token diversity, overreliance on the multiverse and so forth, while also taking jabs at the other side of the aisle and all the lazy anti-woke YouTubers and fans who spend all their time complaining about diversity.

    –Forbes, “‘South Park: Joining The Panderverse’ Review — Disney Satire At Its Finest”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2023/10/27/south-park-joining-the-panderverse-review—disney-satire-at-its-finest/?sh=4238edf12d17

    _________________________________

    It’s true the show provides some balance, which is good, but most of the shots are aimed at Disney and hit home.

    Here’s the Critical Drinker’s take:

    –Critical Drinker, “Joining The Panderverse – We’re Winning”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nygfvI5cZ9w

    We’re winning! I do see this as a breakthrough against Woke Disney and Woke Everything. Another sign we have reached Peak Woke.

  26. This Time It’s Different Dept.

    Disney is not ignoring this. They are threatening lawsuits and suddenly they are talking about making their movies fun (for a change?).

    They’ve also delayed their controversial “Snow White” remake until 2025 for extensive reshoots.

    Zounds! Disney is restoring the Seven Dwarves instead of the “Seven Magical [Totally Diverse] Creatures”. Check the preview image here:
    _______________________________________

    How do you remake a remake like “Snow White” before it’s even been remade? Ask the super-geniuses in charge at Disney these days, because their nine-figure reboot of the 1937 classic just got another nine figures tacked on to the production cost — and a one-year delay arriving at your local multiplex.

    –Stephen Green/Vodkapundit, “That ‘Snow White’ Reboot Is Getting a Reboot Before It Even Hits Theaters (A Year Late)”
    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2023/10/30/that-snow-white-reboot-is-getting-a-reboot-before-it-even-hits-theaters-a-year-late-n4923455

    _______________________________________

    Woke Disney has been humiliated.

  27. Here’s a surprising (to me) YouTube video from India from 2 weeks ago. The Major is very pro Israel and mentions help that Israel gave India in 1971 when there was a major flare up(war?) with Pakistan. He is also all in on India providing weapons and money to the Israelis. The commenters are quite pro Israel as well. He clearly has real animus towards the Muslims.

    https://youtu.be/MYY4aF2yvZU?si=wb_eUhesCcaV3GUC

  28. Not exactly new, but stands to reason that the more money given to a thoroughly corrupt regime, the larger the amounts disappearing into a black hole.

    Zelenskyy aide on corruption in Ukraine: ‘People are stealing like there’s no tomorrow’

    One ‘y’: major but run-of-the-mill government corruption
    Two ‘y’s: super duper big time corruption on steroids

    Heaven help us if he adds another ‘y’. That might trigger a galaxy-swallowing super massive black hole.

  29. Paul in Boston, India has a continuing simmering problem between its Hindu majority and a large Muslim minority. The area was ruled by Muslim invaders for several centuries; they tore down Hindu temples and in some cases took the stones away to be used as courtyard pavements for mosques (where they would be stepped on and therefore disrespected). There was a terrorist attack in Mumbai a few years ago, in which Pakistani jihadis especially targeted Jewish residents, something that shocked Indians.

    (I lived there for a couple of years, so I am also aware of the Hindu antipathy to Indian Christians, which is a different topic.)

  30. @ crasey > “If you choose to adopt a shelter dog one of them is gonna choose you. You’ll know”

    That definitely has happened in our family — the kids & grandkids, not us.
    We’re past the stage of wanting to walk the dog in the dark in the snow, which dumped on us Sunday for the opening salvo of Colorado winter.

  31. JohnTyler RE: Some Possible Reasons for Government UFO Secrecy

    Perhaps in the beginning, say, during or immediately after WWII, it was decided by the government that the information that UFOs were real objects, and that they were probably evidence of Alien contact with our world would likely cause terror among many people, and destabilize a Western civilization and a U.S.–and their citizens–all of which had just emerged from a huge World War.

    Immediate post WWII Western societies—and perhaps more fragile than usual societies–which might not be able to absorb and to deal with such disturbing information, such a major, human race changing “ontological shock,” challenging all that we thought we knew about ourselves and our place in the Universe.

    If you believe what David Grusch says he found out, it appears that in the decades between WWII and now some factions within the government, and perhaps some aerospace contractors as well, have engaged in a lot of criminal activities to keep that very dangerous knowledge from becoming public and believed.

    Then, of course, there was also the very likely consideration that our enemies—Russia and China chief among them–were reportedly also trying to find and to retrieve crashed Alien vehicles—a new, undercover Cold War–and our government would naturally not want these adversaries to find out what progress–if any—we had made in reverse engineering the UFOs which we had acquired.

    However, during those same decades–while it was taking many steps to deny the reality of UFOs–or it’s interest in them–the government, or some parts of it, were reportedly also trying to promote the idea of Flying Saucers, Aliens, and Space travel in our popular culture, and taking steps to try to guide/manage how those ideas were presented in books, movies, and on TV, perhaps as a way to reduce the ontological shock if such knowledge about the reality of UFOs and Aliens ever escaped their custody, and came to light.

    Well, I think that this particular desensitization campaign has worked very well—“Star Trek,” “Close Encounters,” “Independence Day,” “X-Files,” “Arrival,” etc., etc., etc.–and that if and when this information comes out—is officially confirmed–it will not be anywhere as novel, frightening, and destabilizing as it might have been some 80 years ago.

    (Of course, the real question is, are we dealing with friendly Aliens, or Aliens which are neutral, unfriendly, or actively hostile?)

    Whatever it’s character, it’s time to bring this information out, into the light.

  32. JohnTyler on October 30, 2023 at 2:13 pm said:
    The US govt. is totally out of control and many of its agencies need to be abolished.

    These 3 recent American Mind articles show the depth of the problem, and perhaps a corrective path going forward, but its core presumption that a solidly Republican presidency and a somewhat supportive congress will be available soon is still in great doubt:

    1) https://americanmind.org/features/a-swing-and-a-miss/ Vivek Ramaswamy makes a valiant but doomed proposal to dismantle the administrative state.

    2) Part I of 2: https://americanmind.org/features/a-swing-and-a-miss/irregular-order-part-i/ What it will take to break the Deep State.

    3) Part II of 2: link to part II available via Part I; same core title.

  33. Bill K, we have a glen terrier (glen of imaal is the official name). Doesn’t shed, low to the ground but sturdy (35-40 pounds), quiet, affectionate, happy to go for long walks or to lie around the house, loves kids, adults and other dogs—probably the best dog we’ve ever had. They’re also incredibly cute! Glen of Imaal terrier

  34. Snow on Pine, your account reminds me of what the aliens said to the garden.
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    “Take us to your weeder.” 😉

  35. MrsX, seems on the small side of what I have been considering, but I’ll take your word for it on the lookout.

  36. RE: UFOs—Machines, Biological entities, or both?

    It has been proposed that the most economical way for an advanced space faring civilization to explore the Galaxy is not to go to all the trouble of sending flesh and blood representatives of their civilizations out to explore every single solar system but, instead, to send out relatively slow moving, self-replicating robots—Von Neumann probes—to explore.

    These machines would be AI directed, and when they arrive at a likely solar system would set up shop—to both observe the planets in that solar system for intelligent life, but also to explore that solar system for the raw materials that self-replicating machine could use to manufacture a number of new Von Neumann probes, which it would send further out into the Galaxy toward other likely solar systems.

    In this way it is estimated that a star faring civilization could investigate every star system in the entire Galaxy in several million years.

    If the probe did find intelligent life in a particular solar system, it would report back to it’s home system and, then, at that point, living beings might be sent to that system to investigate it in person.

    Harvard Astronomer Avi Loeb has it right when he is proposing that we should be searching our solar system for evidence of such a Von Neumann probe, sent here by an Alien civilization and observing us.

    Or perhaps we are long past that point, and we are being observed–and sometimes interfered with–by Alien “biologics.”

    The UFOs we are increasingly seeing in our skies would seem to be some of that evidence.

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