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Open thread 10/5/23 — 41 Comments

  1. Hitler wanted all 76 to be shot upon recapture but Goring convinced him if they killed all 76 (“while trying to escape”) it would obviously be murder.

  2. After literally millions and millions of illegal aliens have crossed into the USA since the current regime took power… now, NOW they finally seem to want to actually build a wall?! This is absolutely insane. I almost can’t believe it. I guess they’re must be getting hammered on this issue by their own side, in particular by mayors of deep blue sanctuary cities.

  3. Nonapod–They want to build the wall to keep all of the millions of illegal aliens they’ve deliberately let flood into our country from going back across the border to where they came from.

  4. A favorite. Movie but lots of rewriting history. The real story would be a good movie but hard to leave out lots of details.

  5. Repeated here in case you did not see it yesterday [or very early this morning].
    Open thread question for Kate:
    I received an email solicitation for Mark Robinson’s campaign for governor of NC.
    I have seen a couple of videos of him, and he came across as pretty impressive .. but then perhaps he would as a seasoned politician.
    What do you or other responsible NC citizens think of him as your potential governor? Is sending any money to his campaign useful or just money down a rat hole? Thanks.

  6. Nonapod says, “After literally millions and millions of illegal aliens have crossed into the USA since the current regime took power… now, NOW they finally seem to want to actually build a wall?!”

    Beto (the original Irish Hispanic) ain’t happy about it and wants all good Texans to join him in opposing Biden’s version of the wall: In a list of points posted to X, formerly known as Twitter, O’Rourke outlined the reasons why he didn’t support the order.

    “1. Walls don’t work,” wrote O’Rourke, who ran an unsuccessful 2022 gubernatorial campaign against Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott. “2. President Biden promised he wouldn’t build them 3. Now ever harder for voters to distinguish between him & Trump on border/immigration.” In his last point, he called it a “wasted opportunity to use executive power to actually fix our asylum system instead of impotent political posturing.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4239778-beto-orourke-slams-biden-border-wall-order/

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  7. Hi, R2L. I didn’t see it, so thanks for re-posting. I don’t represent every R in North Carolina, but here are my two cents. Robinson shot to fame only a few years ago at the Greensboro city council when he gave a very effective speech in favor of the 2nd Amendment. He won the Lt. Gov. race handily, in a year when the regrettable Roy Cooper (D) was re-elected governor. He has a legitimate rags-to-riches life story, tough childhood, abusive father. He and his then-girlfriend now-wife procured an abortion when they were young, something he is open about. They were young, and deeply regret what they did, he says. He is conservative politically and also a conservative black Baptist; has given some homilies at church services opposing women’s pastorates and opposing abortion which leftists are trying to use against him. I don’t think he has talked about women in leadership outside of the pulpit, and seems to work well with elected Republican women. He is leading in the polls for the Republican nomination for governor at this time.

    He recently declined to participate in debate-style appearances hosted by the Wake and Mecklenburg counties’ Republican parties (this is Raleigh and Charlotte), and has been accused of failing to attend commission meetings of which he is a statutory member (our Lt. Gov. actually has quite a few stated duties). So I’m on the fence about him, myself, but certainly he’s a viable option. We are about 20% black here in NC. With a vocal black candidate like Robinson, it’s possible the black vote might split more R, or that some black voters just won’t bother to come out to vote for another white male Democrat.

  8. And now I see I have a similar emailed campaign contribution solicitation from Rep. Ryan Zinke of MT.
    So, Anne, given your prior comments about the situation in MT, I presume you would recommend making a contribution to him, simply because he is a Republican (and he did work for Trump as Sec. of the Interior) whether or not he fits on most of the more conservative points we might like? [And he well may??]

    I signed up for a Gingrich newsletter/email back in 2006 or 07, so I have been on the R/GOP/GOPe DB/radar ever since. Thus I get email solicitations all of the time (as I presume many here do, too). But if they are coming from grifters of various strips, or real campaigns, is the first question. Even for the latter, is the campaign really in need of the money? And will it really help?

    Given all the comments here about counting ballots vs. making votes, if the MT GOP has not worked to avoid ballot harvesting or other potential vote/ballet fraud, is any money going to them going to do any good?

    In a more perfect world “there oughta be a law” to restrict such donations to only folks from within the jurisdiction under consideration (national, state wide, or lower). We can dream, anyway.

  9. R2L, in NC we have a pretty tight election system, paper ballots with optical scan only. We have early voting and absentee by mail on request, with ID required now for all forms of voting, including early and absentee.

  10. cb @ 11:43 am pointed out that Germany is going to rely on coal for it’s on demand power.

    It’s a lot worse than that. Here’s an interview with Wolfgang Manchau, former co-editor of Financial Times Deutschland. If you think the US is a dysfunctional mess, Germany makes us seem rational in our rush to self-immolate.

    Toward the end he surmises Germany will seek to separate from the US so we can take all of the bully blame.

    Wolfgang Munchau: Germany is in trouble

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACX9xqMsRM&t=3s

  11. Update on Commander, the First Dog with a taste for Secret Service agents: 1) the dog has been relocated effective today. One reason is that there were many more biting incidents than the 11 reported a few days ago: “While the US Secret Service has acknowledged 11 reported biting incidents involving its personnel, sources who spoke to CNN said the real number is higher and includes executive residence staff and other White House workers. Those bites have ranged in severity, from one known bite requiring hospital treatment to some requiring attention from the White House Medical Unit to some going unreported and untreated.”

    https://news.yahoo.com/bidens-dog-commander-involved-more-001512287.html

    The other news about Commander is that it has gotten out that Brandon mistreats his dogs: from Judicial Watch: “BREAKING: According to Judicial Watch sources, ‘President Biden has mistreated his dogs.’ Judicial Watch has learned ‘he has punched and kicked his dogs.'”

    https://thepoliticsbrief.com/report-surfaces-biden-mistreats-his-dogs-among-commanders-removal-from-white-house-for-biting-incidents/

    I just hope Willow, the First Cat, isn’t also being subjected to JoJo’s abuse.

  12. If these “Judicial Watch sources” are to be believed and it becomes widespread knowledge, Biden might actually be done believe it or not. Cruelty to dogs is an enormous turn off for many American voters.

  13. PA+Cat…
    I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told, “Behind every “bad” dog, there’s a horrible owner.”

  14. John Guilfoyle–

    My dad used to say the same thing about “bad” dogs and bad owners. I don’t know, of course, whether Commander can be retrained (if that’s the right word), but it may be that a better owner than Biden will step up to the plate and adopt him.

  15. R2L on October 5, 2023 at 2:28 pm said:

    And now I see I have a similar emailed campaign contribution solicitation from Rep. Ryan Zinke of MT. … (I)s the campaign really in need of the money? And will it really help?

    Early money is like yeast kiddo. It makes the dough rise. A dollar now carries the impact of $10 in the last months of the primary election to choose the Republican nominee.

    Also, consider the so-called fundraising primary. Only walking precincts and telephoning is a more sincere show of support than a campaign contribution (and the former aren’t tracked by any financial reporting laws). A strong show of financial support now fends off weak challengers in the primary, allowing the strong candidate to get all his wood behind a single arrowhead aimed at his fall Democrat opponent.

    (I)f the MT GOP has not worked to avoid ballot harvesting or other potential vote/ballet fraud, is any money going to them going to do any good?

    You, kiddo, are “the MT GOP”. What work have you put in to quash illegal ballot harvesting? You’re doing no good at all by sitting and complaining into dim internet echo chambers. Rather, you’re being counterproductive with your mopey doom and gloom attitude. Like so many other Trump sympathizers, you’re talking yourself into giving up even before the fight has begun. (Joe Biden sends you his thanks!)

    In a more perfect world “there oughta be a law” to restrict such donations to only folks from within the jurisdiction under consideration (national, state wide, or lower).

    “For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, obvious, and wrong.”–H.L. Mencken

    Kiddo, you’re quick to stomp on the First Amendment’s protections of speech and the press. If political speech isn’t protected against the heavy hand of government, then what is? Also, in a perfect world a Montana politician wouldn’t have a say in what goes on outside Montana don’cha think? But in the Congress, he does. So folks elsewhere in the Union have a right to have a say even if they haven’t got a vote for that Montana seat. Bottom line, avoid falling into the Mencken simpleton profile.

  16. I have seen the video of Biden kicking Commander in the head to get him to enter the presidential limousine.

    Other than pit bulls, which have a reputation for aggression even when well-treated, in general an ill-behaved dog has a bad owner. The Bidens have twice demonstrated they are unsuited to own German Shepherds, or perhaps any dog.

  17. PA+Cat on October 5, 2023 at 2:18 pm said:

    (Robert “Beto”) O’Rourke, who ran an unsuccessful 2022 gubernatorial campaign against Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (wrote). “Now ever harder for voters to distinguish between him (Biden) & Trump….”

    Biden and Trump are much alike, besides both of them being blowhards. Yet millions of rube low information voters just don’t get it. Hah ha.

    Texans can thank Californians who relocated to Texas since 2000 for not having to suffer the embarrassment of calling their state’s junior Senator “Beto”. That’s right, post-election polling discovered that newcomers to the Lone Shooter State supported Republican Ted Cruz in that tight race more than native Texans did. But you’ll never see gratitude from a Texan.

  18. It’s hard getting reliable facts about what is going on in Congress. It looks like the House had approved 4 of the 12 spending bills prior to McCarthy getting the boot.

    From an Epoch Times story:

    “The House has approved and sent to the Senate four of the 12 major spending bills, which account for three-fourths of the government’s discretionary spending.

    But the Senate has yet to take up any of the four and the House still must pass the remaining measures and get them to the upper chamber before Nov. 14 to, again, avoid a government shutdown.

    That legal and fiscal reality provides the essential political framing for the race to succeed Mr. McCarthy.

    Interviews with multiple House Republicans, all speaking on background, suggest at this point that if there is a favorite to succeed Mr. McCarthy in what is likely to be a one-week campaign, it would be Mr. Jordan.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/jordan-vs-scalise-house-republicans-weigh-in-on-speaker-succession-battle-5504557

  19. Rufus T. Firefly:

    If you’ve never seen the 1963 movie, please do. It’s wonderful. It follows most of the facts except that it collapses and condenses characters, adds Americans, and invents a motorcycle chase for Steve McQueen. It also changes the season and eliminates the snow. But the basics are all there.

  20. cd:

    I am tired of playing whack-a-mole with articles like the one you linked. Looking at it, I see it lacks a link to a study that it’s supposedly talking about. No way to check a thing it says, from the information given.

    However, see this for some fact-checking.

    Please stop posting that sort of thing in the future.

  21. Neo, I’m sure you’re correct on her errors concerning Obamacare. What I did like is her expression of frustration of conservatives with the GOP. I only just registered as a Republican a few weeks ago so I can vote in the primary (I guess a useless act as the primary is considered over without a single vote cast..sarc). Previously just considered myself as an independent, but conservative.

  22. Oh, and second Neo’s recommendation of the Great Escape movie. Steve McQueen great as always.

  23. physicsguy:

    And my point is that at least some of that frustration – and perhaps a lot of it – is based on ignorance or incorrect understanding of the facts.

    I share quite a bit of frustration with the GOP, but I try to be realistic about it. I am continually amazed at how often people ignore the obstacles they face and what they have actually tried to accomplish. It’s not that they’ve been great – they have not. But without the numbers and the power, they are limited, and they have made more attempts than people give them credit for.

  24. physicsguy:

    Speaking as a woman – which I usually do 🙂 – it’s got a great all-male cast. Everyone in it is great.

  25. https://ace.mu.nu/archives/406461.php
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    Ever notice how cops go Mr. Magoo when the Democratic Party nomenklatura is involved? The above is a less amusing analogue to the time when the Mayor of Tallahassee was found in a hotel room with a passed-out hustler, baggies strewn everywhere, alcohol, and meth. He was never charged with possession.

  26. Regarding physicsguy’s statement about voting in the Florida Republican primary:

    It’s a testament to the non-seriousness (and, no doubt lack of intelligence) of our journalists, but reporting on the primaries in the U.S. is nonsensical. Neo has pointed out most of the reporting and discussion surrounds national polls, which are almost entirely useless (except, perhaps, for gauging direction). The GOP hasn’t won the popular vote in 19 years and are unlikely to win it in 2024. Along with national polling, most of the reporting completely ignores the primary schedules. The order in which the primaries occur, and the size of the state populations in which they occur are of tremendous consequence. Another factor is the type of primary; caucus vs. open, closed or mixed.

    The primaries are a chess game for candidates. All candidates have limited funds and all candidates have limited time. Should a campaign spend a lot of money and time in Iowa, a state with few electoral votes, in order to get a lot of early attention? Should a campaign ignore small states and focus on big primaries? Giuliani and Bloomberg were presumed front runners who took risky gambles on primary strategies that backfired.

    And, this year’s GOP chess game has an added component, Donald Trump’s legal battles. Will he be convicted of a crime? If so, when and to what affect on primary voters? Will his court schedule affect his ability to campaign? Do his opponents target populous states with primaries coincident with his court appearances?

    As a reminder, here is the 2024 primary schedule: https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2024-primary-schedule/

    So, as I’m sure he is aware, about half of the GOP delegates will already be promised by the time physicsguy votes in the Florida primary* on March 19. How many candidates will still be in the race then?

    *And, shouldn’t GOP leadership ignore primaries in states they are sure to lose? I know they can’t openly state they are doing this, but what does it matter who wins California, or Illinois? Especially this election cycle. States like California, New York and Illinois have an outsized impact on the GOP nominee despite the fact that no matter who the GOP nominee is, he or she is highly unlikely to win that state. Maybe look at the last two election cycles and weight states based on population and percent of GOP Presidential vote? Or, even easier, forget this whole, stupid farce and go back to conventions with smoke filled rooms.

  27. There is something flat out bizarre going on with the Bidens and their dogs.
    Short answer – as several commenters have pointed out – it’s not the dog, it’s them.
    Both dogs years apart in age are uncontrollable biters? Really?
    Which begs the question – WTH is going on with these people?
    These are beautiful dogs and obviously have come from top breeders – and these breeders would have bred for solid temperament and intelligence as well as physical conformation. How did this problem ever even get started?
    I’ve been owned by GSDs for over 40 years. All but the first two and the new puppy were trained in Europe for obedience, tracking and protection. Competed at the world level. Not one of them would ever bite someone without being expressly commanded to. Utterly trustworthy with my kids and their friends.
    The Bidens have access to this level of training for their dogs and it’s inexcusable that they would not avail themselves of it. They must want it this way.
    Just think about what that says about them.

  28. https://althouse.blogspot.com/2023/10/college-professor-here-when-they-arrive.html#more
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    Sorry, not sympathetic. Schoolteachers and administrators can be very resistant to parents with reasonable complaints about how the teachers allocate class time and how the administrators organize school activities. They should have the fortitude to tell the obnoxious karens to pound sand when they want special (lax) treatment for their children on assignments and grading. It’s just that the social ideology of the issue of this nation’s teacher’s college regard CRT as something to go to the mat for and common performance standards as optional.

  29. RTF, 6:58 p.m.: I have often thought that the convention and smoke-filled room approach produced candidates who were no worse than what we get with all the primaries, at far less expense.

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