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Open thread 9/8/23 — 17 Comments

  1. I’m sure it was the “super-intelligent rat” at 2:00 that attracted Neo to this video.

    Another moment (well, four moments) no one would believe if not for video: An October MLB game from 1992, when David Hulse (Texas Rangers) hit four foul balls in a row into the (then) California Angels’ dugout:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V3G8WMn2Xo&ab_channel=MLB

    Note the good-humored reactions of the announcers, the fans, and the cop sitting with the players in the Angels’ dugout.

  2. Yeah, I liked that rat, too.
    If they keep it up, NYC appears to be doomed.
    OTOH, maybe “Biden” can bribe ’em all back better…to head down to the Sunshine State…
    “Europeans latest to provide evidence undercutting Joe Biden story about firing Ukrainian prosecutor;
    “Biden’s story has been that he threatened to withhold loan to Ukraine only because prosecutor Shokin was not meeting anti-corruption standards. His own State Dep’t said otherwise, now evidence shows that the EU concluded Shokin had met ‘benchmarks’ on anti-corruption reforms.”—
    https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/eu-memo-directly-undercuts-joe-bidens-narrative-about

  3. “Here’s an F/A-18 Hornet night launch [off a carrier] and after watching you start understanding why the Air Force buys over $4 billion worth of fuel each year.”

    Um, no.

  4. Interesting exchange on a friend’s FB page about Trump. I like looking at these as most of the people are Ds and some even fairly radical leftists. The surprise was the general agreement that they really don’t want Biden, however, all agree Biden is better than “having that orange POS back as president”.

    As said before, they are not happy with Biden but will crawl over broken glass to vote against Trump. And I would guess that includes many MotR voters also. If Trump is the nominee, it’s all over in my view. I just recently switched my registration from independent to GOP, so I can vote in the primary.

  5. Something I’ve noticed more recently is this claim that Trump’s Covid response was generally bad or poor or a failure. I’ve seen this claim made from both the Left but also the Right for different reasons obviously.

    The Left just generally claims that Trump didn’t do a good job but rarely offers any specifics as to what Trump could or should have done differently. Maybe they wanted perminant lockdowns, lock down stuff even harder or something?

    While some on the Right say he should’ve outright fired Fauci and Birx after the first few months of the pandemic at least, and perhaps ended a lot of the Federal level mask mandates and the like.

    Just now I saw this article on The Blaze that in the first paragraph says:

    His excuses for not firing Fauci are a glimpse not just into his failed COVID response that lasted through January 2021 (and that he still defends today), but into the entire “shallow state” problem of his administration and his chaotic, inconsistent, and undisciplined way of governing.

    Now personally I don’t have a very strong opinion either way about Trump’s performance regarding Covid in hindsight. I don’t doubt that there are things that could have been done better with the knowledge we possess today. But I’m unconvinced that given what was known at the time and with the various constraints on what a president could do that anyone could have done significantly better. And what is “better” depends on you point of view. For Conservatives, it’s minimizing the draconian lockdowns, keeping schools open and the like and generally fostering an environment that promotes the truth. But how much agency does any president have with regards to each of those things?

  6. Barry, perhaps if the rats take over NYC it would be an improvement.
    Nonapod, I sympathize with your analysis of Trump and Covid. I suspect Trump thought he would lose the election and was therefore doubly unprepared to fill executive branch positions with right people. He only began figuring it out well into his term.

  7. Oh the Blaze! What fun its articles are. So Trump not firing Fauci was a bad thing, so Fauci under Biden was a good thing?

  8. Something I’ve noticed more recently is this claim that Trump’s Covid response was generally bad or poor or a failure. I’ve seen this claim made from both the Left but also the Right for different reasons obviously.

    The Left just generally claims that Trump didn’t do a good job but rarely offers any specifics as to what Trump could or should have done differently. Maybe they wanted perminant lockdowns, lock down stuff even harder or something?

    I pretty much agree with you. At least on the left it’s a testament of faith that Biden did a better job. The thing is when I look at actual numbers on a site like worldometers it looks to me as though the growth of cases and deaths was largely the same for both of them, at least for the first year or so. So the idea Biden did a better job doesn’t stand to any real scrutiny.(Of course having the press say it with no proof makes a lot of people believe it. Then again you have Chuck Todd peddling an obvious conspiracy theory which show how much bias they have.)

    Pretty much what Trump did was what I’d expect any president to do. IE do what they could to get vaccines out asap.(It made sense at the time.) I know I was seriously surprised that vaccine manufactures would make it political and not admit they had them until after the election. (Gee, I wonder why they’d do that. Yes, I’m being sarcastic and we all know why.)

    Unfortunately with hindsight we can see that vaccines weren’t the savior that they were portrayed as. (Yes they work but only for about 6-9 months and the first ones had limited effectiveness against variants. So if you wanted protection via vaccine better get it every 3 or 4 months.) It looks to me the only thing that might have helped was Greater Barrington since in the end the world accidentally ended up doing that anyway.(Basically west went and hid and let poor people in Africa get sick and incubate a less virulent form of the disease. IE the omicron variant.) It would have been nice if the US and the rest of the west opened up for the young and healthy over the summer of 2020 and got this over with sooner.)

  9. in so far as policy determination, mike pence brought fauci and scarf lady to the fore front, the counterparts to matt hancock and neil ferguson,

  10. Re: The Fourth Turning

    neo covered it, Lo! over three years ago:

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2020/07/13/is-this-a-fourth-turning/

    There is a new book on the Fourth Turning and “The City Journal” has taken a serious look:

    –“The Fourth Turning Is Here, by Neil Howe”
    https://www.city-journal.org/article/review-of-the-fourth-turning-is-here-by-neil-howe

    The Fourth Turning is based on a four-cycle notion of history. The review provides a great thumbnail:
    ___________________________________________

    Howe’s prediction rests on a model that at its core is timeless and simple. In fact, it can be summed up by a four-line Internet meme: “hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times.”
    ___________________________________________

    I think there’s something to this, and god knows, we can see something like the fourth turn looking out our windows these days.

    Nonetheless:
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    Howe’s model explicitly states that it is almost always the new values of the previous Awakening that instigate the Crisis and then replace the old regime at its climax—which would imply victory by today’s version of the New Left. Indeed, he predicts the victorious millennials will be a generation of “confident technocrats,” materialists with a youthful zeal for progress and grand ambitions to remake the world. He just assumes this is a good thing.
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    Aside from some quibbles about timing, this is how I read the Strauss-Howe Theory. Today’s Millennials led by Boomers is a scary future and one clearly possible.

    “City Journal” is such a great publication.

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