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Open thread 2/2/23 — 47 Comments

  1. Very informative! I am irritated when I see modern writers trying to use the older forms, and misusing them.

    I didn’t know Tyndale had chosen “thou/thee” for God in order to make it clear there is only one. That’s a good point. I had thought there might have been a theological purpose as well, indicating a close personal relationship between the believer and the Lord.

  2. Tyndale illustrates no good deed goes unpunished, henry tudor took his suggestion, and hung him for it,

  3. Tyndale was strangled and then his body burned at the stake in Flanders, under the authority of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V. Not that Henry VIII wouldn’t have executed him if he hadn’t fled England …

  4. I stand corrected,

    it strikes me how 16th century rulers were not unlike the middle east and even eurasian potentates of today, xi is a whole nother level

  5. Heh, didn’t “Biden” say “he” wasn’t gonna do this?
    “Energy Department proposes tighter efficiency standards for gas, electric stoves and ovens;
    “Energy Department says new efficiency standards for gas and electric stoves will result in billions in cost savings”—
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/energy-department-proposes-tighter-efficiency-standards-gas-electric-stoves-ovens

    Right. Doesn’t matter. We knew “he” was lying.
    As for the “billions in cost savings”…what are the odds of that being even remotely true? (Just askin’ for a friend….)

    Of course, it could be “he” was referring to that huge population metric that just LOVES raw food and cold soups—all the time—in which case I guess I owe “him” an apology…

  6. Ilhan Omar is off the house foreign affairs committee. The vote was 218-211 so there were some Republican traitors. I can’t get names so far but I will donate to their opponents in their primaries.

    Congratulations to the Republican leadership for pushing the vote across

    Later… One Republican, Rep. Dave Joyce, R-Ohio, a senior member of the Ethics Committee, voted present.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-gets-boot-house-votes-off-foreign-affairs-committee-democrats-cite-racism

  7. All of Robword’s videos are interesting and informative, but I found this one especially interesting.

  8. Ilhan Omar is off the house foreign affairs committee.

    Sweet sanity.

    Or, uh, “Racist bastards!“, they cry. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Much more like it, as any sanity must have a price attached.

  9. The comically petulant wines of Ilhan Omar, Jerry Nadler, Adam Schiff, and Eric Swalwel over being kicked off committees are small victories in these bleak times.

  10. Oh. Judge Adelman “didn’t mean to” call Chief Justice Roberts a liar and will “be more careful” in the future. I hope he will be. Better yet, he’s 80, time to retire from the bench.

  11. Owing to sheer cussedness and spite, elected Dems have become upside down on simple right and wrong issues. Imagine if the Foreign Affairs vote involved Elon Musk rather than Ilhan Omar.

    I wonder if those voting against booting Omar off the committee screamed Noooooo! loud enough for liberal Jews to hear them? Frankly, I doubt that is even possible.

  12. Not everyone has gone insane about Omar’s removal.

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/02/02/enes-kanter-freedom-takes-issue-with-narrative-that-ilhan-omar-is-a-victim-of-an-islamophobic-gop/
    “Ilhan Omar getting kicked out of Foreign Affairs Committee has nothing to do with the fact that she is Muslim.
    It has to do with her policies, and the fact that she meets with dictators like @RTErdogan.
    As a Muslim, I feel nothing but love and respect from the Republican Party.”

    With all due respect to Mr. Freedom, Omar has more problems than just her crush on Turkey’s Erdogan (who is trying to get hold of Enes to jail, or kill, him).

    https://thefederalist.com/2023/01/31/local-congresswoman-accidentally-spends-a-decade-being-an-antisemite/
    Geraghty is one of the few NR pundits I still read.

  13. If Rittenhouse was already acquitted, how can he be tried again for “wrongful death”?

    Sounds totally perverse.

    The charge, which includes the following bizarre statement, is also ludicrous:
    “The civil rights lawsuit also alleges that officers allowed a dangerous situation to occur which violated Mr Huber’s son’s rights and killed him.” [Emphasis mine; Barry M.]

    Wasn’t Huber one of the rioters?
    And where did he come from, so as to take part in this intentional lawlessness?
    Ah, but it’s the fault of the police?
    Sounds like a further vendetta against Rittenhouse, a disgusting attempt to use the courts to PERSECUTE a defendant who was ALREADY found by a jury to be not guilty.
    Not to mention the money involved.
    It’s harassment pure and simple.
    This farce should be thrown out.
    Judge Adelman is a menace.

  14. In re the choice of Biblical pronouns (heh).
    I didn’t know about Tyndale’s reasoning (someone should have introduced “y’all” and “all y’all” to the English sooner), but I learned some time ago about an interesting development in Biblical translation.

    Maybe some of you had the same experience I did, first as a Baptist and then as a Latter-day Saint, of having Sunday School teachers tell us that we used “thee” and “thou” to refer to God because they were more respectful than “you” (English dropped the “ye” a long time ago), since no one remembered any longer which way the hierarchy went (especially in America).

    Clearly we were misinformed, as RobWords explained, but it’s a natural evolution of thought during the centuries-long removal from Tyndale’s translation (also Wycliffe’s and the King James Committee’s).

    However, IIRC*, even the Biblical translators made a similar assumption about the Greek used in the New Testament and the Septuagint (Old Testament), and believed that the Greek pronouns for God were reverential and formal.

    They were surprised to learn, after gaining a greater understanding of Greek etymological evolution, that the Koine Greek of the apostles was in fact a vernacular, not a literary, form, and the NT writers were actually using the informal, familiar Greek equivalents of thee & thou.
    So Tyndale got it right, although for the wrong reason.

    https://www.gotquestions.org/languages-Bible-written.html

    *Free information; worth what you paid for it; but that’s what I remember.

    This is an excellent history of the English translations from Wycliffe to the KJV (there were a lot of them, but many were revisions of Tyndale’s), although it doesn’t mention my Greek anecdote.

    https://bible.org/seriespage/1-wycliffe-king-james-period-challenge

  15. The proper response to anyone complaining about the BroHo getting the boot is “Go whine to San Fran Nan, she set the policy, and we’re just applying it to your side now. Don’t start none; won’t be none.”

  16. “I came to Kenosha to riot, cause mayhem, destroy property and BURN, BABY BURN…and my civil rights were violated!!!” ??

  17. Canadians just don’t get Groundhog Day right: Quebec’s answer to Punxsutawney Phil, a groundhog named Fred la Marmotte, was found dead this morning when his human came to wake him for the annual February 2 ceremony.

    “Fred was found dead by one of his handlers, Roberto Blondin, on Groundhog Day. Fred was a second-generation predictor of spring, following in the footsteps of his father, Gros Fred. The Freds had been prognosticating from their home in the Gaspé town of Val d’Espoir since 2010.

    ‘Fred was amazing to announce if spring would be early or late,’ said Renée Laurendeau, a spokesperson for the Groundhog Day events in Val d’Espoir. ‘He did nine predictions, his dad did four before him. We are sad to see him go but he had a great groundhog life. What we will always remember is how he lifted his paw to salute the sun at every prediction.’

    In a 2020 ‘interview’ with the Montreal Gazette, Fred spoke fondly of his preparation for Feb. 2: ‘On Feb. 1, my human guardian, Lucien Blondin, warms up my home and I start preparing for my prediction. I wake up slowly. My human is very careful about that, making sure I have food and that I am in good shape for my great moment.’

    At the time, he was content to live with his father and mother, Fredounne, but expressed hope that he would meet a lady groundhog to share his home with.”

    Photo of Fred and his human handler at the link:
    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/obituary-fred-la-marmotte-loved-quebecers-as-much-as-they-loved-him/ar-AA172F2U

    huxley should appreciate this taste of Québécois French culture, though I have no idea what a Parisian might make of it– “Fred” doesn’t sound like a classical Gallic name.

  18. PA+Cat:

    I didn’t realize Groundhog’s Day extended as far as Quebec! Fun article for us “Groundhog’s Day” fans.

    There is “Frederic” in French, though I’m not sure where the diminuitive “Fred” stands. There was a character called Freddie in “Plein Soleil”, though he is based on a “Freddie” in the Patricia Highsmith (American) novel.

  19. There is “Frederic” in French

    I thought of Frédéric Chopin right off the bat, although the original Polish form of his first name is Fryderyk. And I have no idea where Fredounne, the name of Fred’s mother and Gros Fred’s wife, comes from– but at least Blondin didn’t name Fred “Justin.”

  20. RTF–

    Staten Island Chuck is alive and well– it was his 2014 stand-in, a female named Charlotte– who was dropped and killed by De Blah-Blah: “Mayor Eric Adams did not attend [today’s] event like his predecessor, Bill de Blasio, who eventually began to skip the tradition after he infamously dropped Chuck’s 10-month-old stand-in, Charlotte, in 2014. Charlotte fell nearly six feet, and died of acute internal injuries a week later. To play it safe, Adams sent in a pre-recorded message for the crowd from City Hall.”

    Two nice photos of Staten Island Chuck at the link: https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/ground-hog-day-2023-did-staten-island-chuck-see-his-shadow/

    From one of the commenters: “The beloved weather pig didn’t see its shadow, but it DID find 17 more classified documents in Joetard’s vacation home, signaling 6 more months of bogus FBI investigations to bury the evidence and cover for the Biden Crime Family.”

  21. A Few Fun French Facts:

    I’ve been working to understand French accents. As with English there are more than a few.

    There is something called “Standardized French” which is mostly based on Parisian French and Parisian is what we foreigners usually encounter as French in the media.

    Parisian French is fast, super-clipped, yet with elongated nasal syllables. I’ve been complaining how Parisian French leaves off the last letter or even syllable. It’s true. But oh, so stylish.

    However, in Southern French all the letters are pronounced! What a concept. You don’t have go back to Middle English in 1500 as we do when the “k” in “knight” was sounded. The Southern accent strikes my ear as French but with that burbling brook flow of Italian.

    More here: https://www.talkinfrench.com/french-regional-accents

    As to those magnificent, long, rolling Rs one hears in Edith Piaf, such as linked by neo’s post about Biden regretting nothing:

    –Edith Piaf, “Non, Je ne regrette rien”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Kvu6Kgp88

    No one talks like that. It was a device French singers used to project their voices before microphones were common.

  22. Gadi Taub explains “Judicial reform in Israel”: https://youtu.be/j80LyUNfD3w

    Yes, it’s an insanely abstruse fact pattern (which Taub has well in hand nonetheless).

    Insanely abstruse is sho’nuff the muck in which progressive piggery loves to wallow for to subjugate the peasantry, but which, in order to defeat, is yet the muck made necessary to comprehend.

  23. Forget it, Cat. It’s Quebec. I went to school with guys with names like Jean-Yves O’Reilly, Chuck Thibodeau, and Vince Duguay.

  24. PA+Cat: I preferred tourtière (French-Canadian meat pie) and Labatt’s Blue. One can get poutine in restaurants throughout New England, but you might have to head over to Rhode Island for it. A now-defunct family restaurant on the main street in Keene, New Hampshire used to do it pretty well. Definitely a cold-weather dish.

  25. Is there any information on whether Fred was vaccinated?
    (I suspect he was—after all, it’s Canada—but don’t know for sure…)

  26. The “real story” gets out by drips and drabs…
    …as we learn more on how the Covid “experts” demonstrated their “expertise”…
    (AKA the Narrative(TM) takes a hit…assuming that anyone finds out about it(!))…
    “Inside The Secret Government Meeting On COVID-19 Natural Immunity”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/inside-secret-government-meeting-covid-19-natural-immunity
    Opening grafs (RTWT):
    ‘ Four of the highest ranking U.S. health officials—including Dr. Anthony Fauci—met in secret to discuss whether or not naturally immune people should be exempt from getting COVID-19 vaccines, The Epoch Times can reveal.
    ‘The officials brought in four outside experts to discuss whether the protection gained after recovering from COVID-19—known as natural immunity—should count as one or more vaccine doses.
    ‘ “There was interest in several people in the administration in hearing basically the opinions of four immunologists in terms of what we thought about … natural infection as contributing to protection against moderate to severe disease, and to what extent that should influence dosing,” Dr. Paul Offit, one of the experts, told The Epoch Times.
    Offit and another expert took the position that the naturally immune need fewer doses. The other two experts argued natural immunity shouldn’t count as anything.
    ‘ The discussion did not lead to a change in U.S. vaccination policy, which has never acknowledged post-infection protection.Fauci and the other U.S. officials who heard from the experts have repeatedly downplayed that protection, claiming that it is inferior to vaccine-bestowed immunity. Most studies on the subject indicate the opposite.

    ‘The meeting, held in October 2021, was briefly discussed before on a podcast. The Epoch Times has independently confirmed the meeting took place, identified all of the participants, and uncovered other key details.
    ‘Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, a professor of medicine at Stanford University who did not participate in the meeting, criticized how such a consequential discussion took place behind closed doors with only a few people present.
    ‘ “It was a really impactful decision that they made in private with a very small number of people involved. And they reached the wrong decision,” Bhattacharya told The Epoch Times….’ [All emphasis mine; Barry M.]

    Was it really “the wrong decision”? It sure earned Fauci et al. one heckuva lot of money, enabled “Biden” to win the 2020 election and succeeded in giving the government extraordinary control over the population, promote general hysteria and feelings of disgust, fear and hatred for the unvaxed (via official pronouncements and ADVERTISEMENTS)…while helping to badly damage the economy and the lives of many people.
    Not bad, eh?
    (Ergo…the absolutely right decision…?)

    File under: Natural Venality.

  27. And from the “Of the People, By the People, For the People” Files…

    “Record 285,000 Illinois Residents Saw Power Shut-Offs Due To Non-Payment In 2022”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/record-285000-illinois-residents-saw-power-shut-offs-due-non-payment-2022

    Considering how responsible they’ve been WRT supplying energy, might one wonder what the “Powers that Be” have in store “for the people” as the next bomb cyclone hits…

  28. Looks as though New Zealand is right up there with the heavy hitters when it comes to Covid coverups…
    (…with certain “hints” as to why former-PM Ardern may have believed it was the right moment to say, um, good-bye, see ya’, it was fun and I’m proud to have served you…)…
    “Health chiefs admit vaccine link to heart and kidney damage – and the MSM say nothing”—
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/health-chiefs-admit-vaccine-link-to-heart-and-kidney-damage-and-the-msm-say-nothing/
    H/T Blazingcatfur blog.
    Key grafs:
    “A PREPRINT paper has just been published in the Lancet authored by the New Zealand Ministry of Health, ‘Adverse Events Following the BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine (Pfizer-BioNtech) in Aotearoa New Zealand’. The paper reveals that there is a statistically significant association between Pfizer mRNA vaccination and both myocarditis and acute kidney injury (AKI). Here in little New Zealand, you wouldn’t know it though. MSM has not covered it, anywhere….
    “…GPs and hospital staff have been deliberately manipulated by government propaganda into believing that the mRNA vaccine is safe. GPs who advised their patients that there were risks associated with the jab were told they might be struck off if they persisted – some actually were.
    “The NZ Ministry of Health did not warn district health boards of the risk of myocarditis until mid-December 2021, near the end of the period covered by the study. This MoH advice described vaccine-induced myocarditis as rare and generally mild. Prior to this there was an obvious incentive to disbelieve and dismiss patients reporting cardiac symptoms. Because GPs were afraid to make any association between the jabs and health conditions, they were also disincentivised to order tests or advise hospitalisation.
    “There has been no general advice of the risk of renal failure post mRNA vaccination. My local school received a visit from a GP informing staff and students that there were no safety issues with the vaccine and that it had been rigorously tested for over 30 years, a downright lie. As a result, a teacher friend with persistent chest pains had no idea it might be connected with vaccination and did not seek medical help until he unburdened himself to me.
    When Jacinda Ardern wrote on her Facebook page that people could comment on adverse effects, expecting a few replies about mild discomfort, 33,000 comments were posted within a matter of hours. Ardern’s staff famously stayed up all night to delete them. [Emphasis mine; Barry M.] As of November 2022, the government has acknowledged only two deaths associated with mRNA vaccination. There are persistent third-party reports circulating that the Ministry of Health made some payments to families whose children died following vaccination on condition that they would not make public comments. As a result, these reports cannot be reliably confirmed or ruled out. If true, possibly these were aimed at reducing vaccine hesitancy among the young.
    “A concerning issue here is the attitude of the media to reports of vaccine injury. They are ignoring them. Even published studies such as this one are receiving no attention whatsoever. MSM appears to have relinquished its investigative role, leaving the public in the dark….”
    Etc., etc., etc.

    This goes BEYOND scandal and into the realm of the criminal. At best, criminal negligence; at worst…conspiracy to commit harm, even manslaughter? On a massive scale?

    And is NZ typical? What can be said about other “enlightened” countries around the world…?

  29. PA Cat,

    That’s good news regarding Chuck, but poor Charlotte. RIP. She volunteers to sub for Chuck and ends up six feet under, never to emerge from her burrow (shadow, or no) again.

  30. When it rains it pours…
    ” ‘The Scandal Would Be Enormous’: Pfizer Director Worried About Vax-Induced Menstrual Irregularities”—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/scandal-would-be-enormous-pfizer-director-worried-about-vax-induced-menstrual
    (Same dude who unloaded on that Pfizer GOF effort…(but don’t worry; it’s a GOF that’s NOT a GOF). Guy apparently REALLY, REALLY wanted to impress his—undercover VERITAS—date…and it would seem that he SURE DID MAKE AN IMPRESSION….)
    Key phrase:
    “There is something irregular about the menstrual cycles. So, people will have to investigate that down the line…”
    Down the line.
    Right
    Got it.

  31. Ahem, everyone…please sit down…
    Andrew McCarthy unloads a roundhouse to the Presidential chin presumably trying to redeem himself (AND to make up for lost time AND for barking up questionable trees)…even as Jonathan Turley continues with his relentless, pin-point jabbing.
    (Tag-team boxing?)
    McCarthy:
    “Hunter Biden’s ridiculous legal letter trying to distract from real scandal — Joe Biden”—
    https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/hunter-bidens-legal-letter-is-trying-to-distract-from-joe-biden/
    Turley:
    “Hunter Biden’s legal threats have no merit — and raise serious constitutional and political questions”—
    https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/hunter-bidens-legal-threats-have-no-merit-raises-political-questions/

    And so…with “his” back against the wall, it’s time for “Biden” to go after those anti-American, Deplorable, Insurrectionist critics good and hard…in fact, relentlessly. No doubt “he”‘d simply like to toss ’em in the Presidential Dungeon along with all those Jan. 6 people…(And hey, what’s there to stop “him”? The Constitution? The Media?)

    File under: Indecent Joe.

    + Bonus:
    “Hunter Biden begs friends, dad Joe’s employees to get him off the hook”—
    https://nypost.com/2023/02/02/hunter-biden-begs-friends-dad-joes-employees-to-get-him-off-the-hook/

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