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  1. In the FWIW department. I was a grad student in physics at UGA during the Walker period. I had Herschel in a lab section. Shocked that the star player actually took lib arts physics , but he did. Best student? No. But I was nonetheless impressed with him.

  2. I wonder if Kemp’s large lead and the Dems’ lack of enthusiasm for Abrams will depress the Warnock vote.

    The scandal over the low-income housing evictions for small sums, and the failure to register the charity with the state, have been noted by the AJC. Enough to make a difference? Who knows?

  3. My own WAG – Walker’s key group of “undecided” voters are Kemp voters who are uncomfortable with him. If he runs within a few points of Kemp, he wins.

    In that sense, Walker’s main task is to make Kemp voters comfortable enough to hold their noses and vote for him despite the other noise. I suspect that his debate performance went a long way towards accomplishing that task.

  4. this brimmer fellow is an aggressive idiot, how do suburban voters feel about garland who is waging a war on the cities,, mayorkas who has swamped the country with 3 million voters, austin who criminally retreated in afghanistan,
    do people focus on any issue of substance,

  5. Walker’s biggest difficulty is to convince voters that he is savvy enough to take on the DC Establishment. I think that’s a tall order – people won’t believe that a man who struggles to express himself with words is capable of the kind of deception that is common currency in politics. Sure he’s a football hero and a good, solid person – but is he equipped for the contest he is taking on?

    Is it time to start ranking past elections with the predictions for this upcoming one? Has there been a time in recent history – the timeline that Neo’s readers can identify with, from personal memory – that the electorate has been so divided, and as cleanly delineated, as different as oil and water, with their beliefs? And has there been a time when there has been this much grudge sentiment and bad feelings wrapped up in the political atmosphere? I don’t recall any such similar election, and I started paying attention around the end of LBJ and Nixon’s first term. Obama’s first midterm dealt a blow to his agenda. What will Joe’s be like (being reminded that the polls are wrong, many of them with badly-wrong track records)?

    I wonder if the Democrats have seen the writing on the wall, and if their political ‘scorched earth’ moves over the past 6 months have at least partly been to create as much havoc as possible, to liquidate the Republican’s energy with post-election damage control.

  6. Aggie,

    How do you reconcile your assertion that Walker is a “man who struggles to express himself” with Brimmer’s reportage? No fan of Walker, he admitted that Walker, “showed political acumen in his first-ever debate showdown. He didn’t ramble. He didn’t get flustered. … He was charming. He was quick-witted. He came across as the more genuine of the candidates…”

  7. @Geoffrey Brittain

    It has nothing to do with Brimmer, and I would never give a journalist’s analysis that kind of benefit of the doubt. I watched some of the debate; I watched the clips where Walker was said to have scored points. The conservative press is ecstatic over his performance, but they are talking it up, as you would expect; what I saw was good preparation and coaching on the anticipated key issues. Walker was ready with the answers and clearly had drilled on them.

    But he is not a naturally well-spoken individual, and he stumbles formulating sentences. Please don’t interpret that as condescension. I’m just giving you my impressions; Professional politicians specialize in the spoken word and rhetoric – he’s a retired football star, not a public speaker. Can he think on his feet, will be be as savvy a politician as he was a running back? Will he see through the miasma of lies that Washington DC lives on? Will he get the kind of advice and guidance from the GOPe that he needs to be successful as a Senator? Or will the McConnell machine leave him hanging?

    I am hoping he wins, and hoping he gets the right kind of support. But the voters have a different kind of decision to make.

  8. Warnock’s scandals… Mike K

    Indeed.

    Granted, Walker is an athlete-celebrity turned politician, which has its understandable weaknesses, but Warnock is a flat Obama-style radical, which doesn’t get much mention.

    I thought this National Review article hit Warnock’s hard-leftness hard and well with regard to packing the Supreme Court, anti-Israeli rhetoric, and Warnock’s full-throated support for Obama’s old, anti-America pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright:
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    …Wright was at the center of the biggest controversy of the 2008 Democratic presidential primary after video of the pastor’s infamous 2003 “God Damn America” sermon surfaced. Obama said he hadn’t heard that particular sermon and condemned it; weeks later, Obama severed ties with Wright and Wright’s church. In 2009, Wright complained that “them Jews” wouldn’t let Obama speak to Wright.

    But in 2014, Warnock was still defending Wright and praising Wright’s “God Damn America” sermon. “You ought to go back and see if you can find and read, as I have, the entire sermon. It was a very fine sermon,” Warnock said in a 2014 speech.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/the-radicalism-of-raphael-warnock/
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    In 2020 Warnock narrowly won 51%-49% in the US Senate special election in Georgia.

    I wonder how well his radical Democat shtick plays now in Georgia, after two years of the disastrous Biden presidency.

  9. Repost…(Georgia I’m-out-of-my-mind edition):
    And even (even, even, etc.) MORE from the “Uncontested Election” (AKA MOST-HONEST-TRANSPARENT-ABOVE-BOARD-ELECTION-IN-AMERICAN-HISTORY) desk….
    “Bombshell Dominion ‘Error Code’ Uncovered in 97% of Georgia Counties;
    “Open records requests reveal 64 of 66 Georgia counties have the same unsolved ‘Tennessee Error’ that caused seven scanners to miscount hundreds of ballots.”—https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/bombshell-dominion-error-code-uncovered
    H/T Instapundit.

    + Bonus—hey, whaddayaknow! another repost:
    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lincolnbrown/2022/10/11/raphael-warnocks-church-evicts-its-low-income-residents-herschel-walker-steps-up-n1636277
    (And so…Warlock?)
    In any event, one may well hope that Walker will be able to put this pathetic pastor out to pasture…

  10. I hope the votes are high enough to defeat the level of cheating

    The amount of fraud in GA’s votes is worrisome

  11. Professional politicians specialize in the spoken word and rhetoric

    The last set of public remarks I’ve seen by Kevin McCarthy were not those of a man who specialized in either. What they specialize in is working a room and running fundraising and publicity campaigns.

  12. Warnock is a dreadful heir to MLKJr’s pulpit.
    Dreadful. And a nothing a US Senator should be.
    But so goes voluntarily the Democratic Party, headed down the flush hole to the sewer.
    Atlanta has long been the capital of black [no caps!] America. When you have dreck for voters, you end up with dreck.

  13. The last set of public remarks I’ve seen by Kevin McCarthy were not those of a man who specialized in either.

    I am not at all impressed with McCarthy. The most impressive Cal Republican is Tom McClintock. He should have been governor but he was wildly outspent in the GOP primary by Bill Simon Jr, an inherited wealth lightweight who then lost to Gray Davis. What followed has been the decline of California.

  14. @ Miguel > “Warnock is julian bond without the sense of humor”

    Now that is funny.
    Otherwise I don’t think Warnock and Bond are much alike other than being black Democrat activists.
    Bond is really more like a sixties Obama, who actually accomplished something; although heading the SPLC is a down-mark now, they started off on a better track, then lost their way.

  15. Bond is really more like a sixties Obama, who actually accomplished something; although heading the SPLC is a down-mark now, they started off on a better track, then lost their way.

    Bond was a leading figure in the Student Nonviolent Co-ordinating Committee, which was taken over by head cases in 1966 and ceased to exist in 1968. He was in the Georgia legislature from 1969 to 1987. Not sure what legislation he shepherded while there. He had a faculty sinecure at one of the Maryland state campuses for quite some time, though he had no post-baccalaureate degree. AFAIK, he was never associated with the Southern Poverty Law Center, which was a grift from the get-go.

  16. Warnock is a dreadful heir to MLKJr’s pulpit.

    MLK Sr.

    Jr. had a courtesy appointment as pastor there; his primary employment was as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. The congregation where he was actually a working pastor is in Montgomery, Alabama.

  17. @ Art Deco > “AFAIK, he was never associated with the Southern Poverty Law Center, which was a grift from the get-go.”

    Wikipedia was my source on that one; I was mostly familiar with his Civil Rights activism, SNCC, and legislative career.

    I’ve read a lot about SPLC over the years, and their original mission was legit, and needed.
    Then they succeeded, and started looking for new targets – and decided that enriching themselves and defaming conservatives was their new lease on life.
    Yes, now it’s a grift.
    Kind of like the trajectory of the ACLU.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Bond

    Horace Julian Bond (January 14, 1940 – August 15, 2015) was an American social activist, leader of the civil rights movement, politician, professor, and writer. While he was a student at Morehouse College in Atlanta, Georgia, during the early 1960s, he helped establish the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). In 1971, he co-founded the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Alabama, and served as its first president for nearly a decade.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center

    The Southern Poverty Law Center was founded by civil rights lawyers Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr. in August 1971[23] as a law firm originally focused on issues such as fighting poverty, racial discrimination and the death penalty in the United States. Dees asked civil rights leader Julian Bond to serve as president, a largely honorary position; he resigned in 1979 but remained on the board of directors until his death in 2015.

    In 1979, Dees and the SPLC began filing civil lawsuits against Ku Klux Klan chapters and similar organizations for monetary damages on behalf of their victims. The favorable verdicts from these suits served to bankrupt the KKK and other targeted organizations.[24] According to a 1996 article in the New York Times, Dees and the SPLC “have been credited with devising innovative legal ways to cripple hate groups, including seizing their assets.”[25] Some civil libertarians said that SPLC’s tactics chill free speech and set legal precedents that could be applied against activist groups which are not hate groups.[24]

    That last charge has been amply demonstrated to be true.

    The Iron Law of Bureaucracy never fails.

    But, I didn’t know this had happened:

    In 1986, the entire legal staff of the SPLC, excluding Dees, resigned as the organization shifted from traditional civil rights work toward fighting right-wing extremism

    https://americandigest.org/pournelles-iron-law-bureaucracy/

    Related, and observably true as well.
    https://www.isegoria.net/2008/07/robert-conquests-three-laws-of-politics/

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