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  1. how many more times can McCarthy be wrong?All the news reports or witnesses that he reflexively stated that they had the goods on Trump this time only to quietly backtrack a few days later

  2. In a just world, people responsible for things like this would be seeing the inside of Supermaxes or shallow ditches in the ground. But it is hard to find more decisive evidence we do not live in a just world.

  3. McCarthy states, “to prove that he intentionally made false statements, the prosecution will have to establish that he was asked sharp questions and gave clear answers that were plainly untrue.”

    Once a ‘justice’ system has proven to be deeply corrupted, all trust in its legitimacy is lost. So, upon what basis might we assume that the verdict hasn’t already been predetermined?

    Show trials need no evidence to reach a desired verdict. Just the Jan. 6th political prisoner ‘trials’ alone, demonstrate that the rule of law has been fatally compromised.

  4. not to beat a dead horse, but the road to the donbass, runs through this second rate wormuld act, and the coverup of hunters paymaster burisma, which lost 6 billion dollars of tax payer money,

    the bureau keeps lesuo (mandarin for blackmailed) eric swalwell in the clear, same for pelosi, and there’s probably a host of others, it allowed greenberg, a slithy tove to spit out uncorroborated allegations against matt gaetz, it employed two chinese double agents in the interpreter division, it went after aipac, and lets cair skate,

  5. Durham: “Did you do that?
    FBI agent: No.”
    My next question would have been, “Why not?”
    Is there such a thing as insubordination in the FBI? If not, why not?

    Possible scenario aboard the USS Midway in 1965.
    CO: “Were you ordered to bomb the POL supplies at Vinh?”
    Pilot: “Yes.”
    CO: “Did you do it?”
    Pilot: “No.”
    CO: “Sergeant of the guard, report to ready room 4.”
    Pilot: “What’s that all about?”
    CO: “Your ass is going to the brig until I convene a General Court Martial. I’m going to hang your ass from the yardarm.””

    There is no honor, no ethics, and no shame among these government bureaucrats. It’s all just a big game. Only outsiders are held responsible for their actions, and they’re mostly framed when that happens. How many ways have they tried to frame Trump? How about Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, and so many unknown January 6th protestors.

    Vote in this election as if your life depended on it. Because it does.

  6. JJ,

    Not Durham’s job to ask, “Why not?” And it’s a dangerous question to ask on cross, especially if you do not know what they will say. You want to control a hostile witness. You do that by asking only leading questions that require only “Yes” or “No” answers. All those “No” answers will register with a jury. They can fill in the blanks. You don’t want a hostile witness filling in the blanks. You can do so yourself on closing.

  7. Instapundit often posts a poll that says Americans think of the FBI as Biden’s personal gestapo. I disagree. That suggests Biden is running the FBI. I think it is the opposite. The FBI is running Biden.

  8. My oldest daughter has been an FBI agent for 20 years. I think she is honest but she is a hard lefty and Trump hater. I was a bit encouraged in 2016 when she announced that she would not vote for Hillary. In the family we do not discuss politics. I used to hold the FBI in high esteem but no more.

    We are a long way from Ephraim Zimbalist days.

  9. Makes no difference if Danchenko is found guilty or not.

    He was simply a messenger – a conveyor of lies and BS – that the FBI , DOJ, CIA used as an excuse to launch an illegal investigation. Illegal in that they had zero evidence to launch an investigation.
    Hearsay does not constitute evidence.

    The real guilty actors in this entire Trump/Russia mess, the ones that really engaged in illegal actions, are the FBI and DOJ (and probably the CIA and NSA too).
    They purposefully and intentionally launched a malicious investigation – and made it very public – having no evidence at all. It was done solely to bring down Trump’s presidency.
    Further, they lied to the courts about the reliability of their “evidence. ”
    The actors engaged in treason.
    If the key actors had done this to bring down Obama’s presidency, they would have already been swinging at the end of a rope wrapped around their neck.

    More unfortunately, is IF the Republicans take Congress and the presidency, they will just hold hearings; maybe.
    A total waste of time this will be.
    Nobody will be indicted or go to jail or be punished. And the media will totally ignore the hearings anyway.
    Those testifying before Congress and lying their ass off have nothing to fear. Congress apparently has no ability to actually punish anybody or if they do, congress does zero anyway; that is if the republicans have the majority.

    The demonkrats are truly an evil, duplicitous, power hungry bunch that play hardball all the time. For them, the ends justifies the means.
    The republicans are just stupid; playing by the rules when nobody else pays attention to the rules.
    If you don’t fight fire with fire, you will lose.

  10. Here’s a curious one:
    “FBI handler: Danchenko didn’t know his report would end up in Steele dossier;
    “Danchenko faces five federal counts of lying to the FBI in its investigation into possible Russia-Trump campaign collusion.”—-
    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/fbi-agent-tells-durham-danchenko-contributed-80-steele-dossier-disputing-sub

    So…Steele’s main source (or main sub-source or main sub-sub-source) had absolutely NO idea that the lies he was feeding Steele would actually end up in the dossier.

    Well, I’ll admit it’s creative!
    (Oh, BTW, anyone wanna buy a bridge over the East River? Any bridge.)

  11. Slow Saturday here, eh? So, according to conservative sites (https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/10/14/herschel-walker-shocks-his-critics-at-debate-with-raphael-warnock-n643384), Herschel Walker surprised everybody with a strong debate performance. In addition to the October surprise sprung on Walker (the allegation, which he denies, of having funded a girlfriend’s abortion), there’s an October surprise for Warnock. His church, which is still paying him a generous salary and monthly housing allowance, owns a residential tower from which it served eviction notices to low-income tenants for small sums owed. Further, it now appears that the church foundation has not properly reported this property to the state agency for charitable groups.

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  13. When Danchenko is either acquitted or found guilty, the media will be able to spin it to protect the FBI:
    Acquitted: the FBI was told what their informant believed was the truth, and acted accordingly.
    Convicted: the FBI was told a lie by their informant, and acted accordingly.

    The question the media should be asked is, why was there no reporting on the FBI testimony during the trial, that showed they wanted to be lied to?

  14. McCarthy remains committed to an FBI ideal that is long gone.

    “But to prove that he intentionally made false statements, the prosecution will have to establish that he was asked sharp questions and gave clear answers that were plainly untrue.”

    This is also true of the FISA judges that allowed themselves to be misled – they FAILED to require written answers by the FBI/ Comey + which would, today, show clear lies.

    All 4 FISA judges who approved warrants based on FBI not-quite-false assurances should be impeached. They, the supervisors of the FBI, failed to supervise effectively.

    Also, the FBI never lies.
    It can’t lie.
    It’s a legal fiction.
    Only human beings, people with names and titles, can, and do, lie. Like Danchenko or Comey or McCabe.

    All belong in jail, but the latter two almost certainly won’t be going.

    Don Surber articulates one of my fantasies – using the gov’t against the top Dem bureaucrats in gov’t.
    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2022/10/keep-irs-turn-it-on-democrats.html

    But it ain’t gonna happen.
    What IS possible is to allow massive firings. Even without criminal or civil prosecutions, just get rid of most bureaucrats of most DC agencies.

    It would be great if there were a 10 year term limit on all Federal gov’t jobs, including FBI/ CIA/ NSA … IRS and every other Fed agency.
    1 year to learn the job – 8 years on the job – last year teaching new folks the job.

    Then off to a NON-gov’t job.
    There’s plenty of good people available who want gov’t to be good, and are willing to work hard for that end.
    Nobody is irreplaceable.

  15. Leland on October 15, 2022 at 7:23 am said:
    Instapundit often posts a poll that says Americans think of the FBI as Biden’s personal gestapo. I disagree. That suggests Biden is running the FBI. I think it is the opposite. The FBI is running Biden.

    Yes, the deep state is in charge. It required considerable effort over 4 years, but it finally was able to eject the elected POTUS and replace him with a tool.

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