On protesting at the homes of SCOTUS justices
White House press secretary Jen Psaki refused to condemn on Thursday plans for protests to take place outside of conservative Supreme Court justices’ homes over the leaked draft opinion that suggests they plan to overturn Roe v. Wade.
‘Look, I think the president’s view is that there’s a lot of passion, a lot of fear, a lot of sadness from many, many people across this country about what they saw in that leaked document,’ Psaki said. ‘We obviously want people’s privacy to be respected.’
She added to the query, asked by Fox News Channel’s Peter Doocy, ‘I don’t have an official U.S. Government position on where people protest.’
People’s privacy should be respected, but the White House has no position on the matter?
Furthermore:
Doocy was citing a Fox News report that said pro-choice activists – under the moniker ‘Ruth Sent Us,’ after the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a proponent of Roe – published what are likely the home addresses of Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch and Chief Justice John Roberts.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg believed abortion should be legal, but “proponent of Roe” doesn’t really fit her. Here are some of the things Ginsburg said about Roe:
“Measured motions seem to me right, in the main, for constitutional as well as common law adjudication,” she argued. “Doctrinal limbs too swiftly shaped, experience teaches, may prove unstable. The most prominent example in recent decades is Roe v. Wade.”
Ginsburg noted that Roe struck down far more than the specific Texas criminal abortion statute at issue in the case.
“Suppose the court had stopped there, rightly declaring unconstitutional the most extreme brand of law in the nation, and had not gone on, as the court did in Roe, to fashion a regime blanketing the subject, a set of rules that displaced virtually every state law then in force,” she said. “A less encompassing Roe, one that merely struck down the extreme Texas law and went no further on that day, I believe and will summarize why, might have served to reduce rather than to fuel controversy.”…
Ginsburg went on to contrast the court’s landmark decision in Roe with a slew of decisions from 1971 to 1982 in which the court struck down “a series of state and federal laws that differentiated explicitly on the basis of sex.”
Rather than creating a new philosophy of law and imposing it on the nation immediately, “the court, in effect, opened a dialogue with the political branches of government.”
“In essence, the court instructed Congress and state legislatures: rethink ancient positions on these questions,” Ginsburg noted. “The ball, one might say, was tossed by the justices back into the legislators’ court, where the political forces of the day could operate.”
And that’s exactly what Alito and the other conservative justices are proposing to do by overruling Roe: toss the ball back into the legislators’ court, where the political forces of the day can operate. But the left doesn’t want people to know that.
ADDENDUM: Oh, and by the way, it’s against the law in Virginia to protest at a home. Quite a few SCOTUS justices live in Virginia.
This is really beyond the pale and the Left is now okay with this. What this means (as if we didn’t already know) the Left is in favor of physical violence and intimidation in order to get what it wants.
The Left did this to the Douglas County Attorney. For over a month, they protested his decision not to charge a guy who killed in self-defense.
Hello Brownshirts.
My leftwing brother’s latest blog post is titled, “Death threats are not part of the job.”
He’s referencing death threats made to Fake News people.
Next question to Jen, the valley girl; “If the White House doesn’t find it threatening, intimidating and reprehensible, what’s your address?”
If, when protestors — peaceful or otherwise — appear before the homes of CJ Roberts, Js Alito, Cavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett, and Thomas, I think I would be happy to see a like set of protestors before the homes of Js Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor in order to keep the latter up-to-date on what’s what in American politics today.
Wouldn’t want these good folk to inadvertently fall into an unhealthy newsbubble.
@Cornhead
The left has generally always been ok with this.
They work hard to pretend otherwise when one of them goes out and does it.
ACB and her husband are both gun owners.
Trespassers beware.
If you think Psaki is a problem, wait until you see her replacement: the first black and openly gay WH press secretary. Already there’s a conflict-of-interest question because Jean-Pierre’s partner is a (white) CNN reporter:
https://nypost.com/2022/05/06/bidens-new-press-secretary-sparks-conflict-of-interest-concerns/
The Blaze reports that CNN reports that right-wingers may get violent. Not sure why they think that based on a report that the decision is going the right’s way. But that’s one of many things that have me very uneasy. Given the way passions have been inflamed on the left since 2016, given that the right to abortion is the one absolutely non-negotiable position that they have, given that they are more or less consciously rejecting the idea that laws they don’t like are in fact laws, given their Brezhnev Doctrine view that no left-wing victory can ever be legitimately undone, and given that most of the media will cover for them, I’m really concerned about false flag violence. It is an old trick, it works, and I just don’t see that there is much of a moral fence against their using it.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/cnn-far-right-protest-abortion-roe
It’s not that difficult to identify where most of the justices live, or, at any rate, to identify places they’ve lived in the past. Messrs. Roberts, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh all live in Montgomery County, Md. Zillow and other realty sites actually blur the image of the street view in front of their respective residences. The Alitos sold a condo they owned in DC about a year ago and their tracks are not yet uncovered. The Thomasas have lived in NoVa in the past. Available addresses on the Barrett family put them in South Bend, so their Washington address has yet to be picked up by the velcro. Amusing to compare the amount of space they like to have. The Gorsuch household makes use of 8x as much space as the Alito household.
American Thinker article points out its against the law in Virginia
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Arlington/2146-N-Pollard-St-22207/home/11232939
Psaki used to live here, but they evidently sold the place in March of 2019. Awful lot of house for a family of four and you have to wonder how a pair of political operatives could afford it. I don’t find it an attractive piece of property at any price.
Growing up, and being rather apolitical, I used to believe that both the left and the right wanted to do good for the country. It was just that they had different views on how to go about achieving that.
But, years ago I gave up on that naive idea of mine. Today, I believe that there are too many who wish harm to the country and to others that think differently then they do.
Time and again we see folks on the left go after people, get in their faces, go after their places of business/work, basically destroy their lives. Many will not do the dirty work themselves; but, doxx people in the hopes that someone will do harm to their “enemies.” Rather than admit they might be “fanning the flames” they will state that so and so had it coming.
What a sad culture we have become.
Sotomayor apparently rents in the Columbia Heights section of DC. Kagan’s had her digs in an old co-op in the Adams Morgan section, more tasteful than than Sotomayor’s building.
Get a gang to knock on Psaki’s door, and say “Hi, Jen. Nino sent us.”
The Blaze reports that CNN reports that right-wingers may get violent.
First, we came for your slaves, then your diversity [dogma], and your redistributive change? Probably not. Demos-crasy is aborted, cannibalized, sequestered in darkness… The Twilight Fringe. Apparently, again, and again, and again. The goal of civilized society is to strive, to mitigate its progress.
That said, there is no mystery in sex and conception, a woman and man have four choices, and the right to self-defense through reconciliation. The wicked solution is neither a novel nor exclusive nor necessary choice.
So it is ok now to put a pin “near” a Justices house and use whatever tactics necessary? Wasn’t Biden the Vice President when the left rung their hands after a conservative federal Judge and young girl were murdered next to Gabby Giffords, and we were all told it as because Sarah Palin put a mark on a map the size of the United States? We now know that’s all BS, along with the January 6th commission and complaints about Trump.
‘I don’t have an official U.S. Government position on where people protest.’???? What is January the 6th about, then? I guess their position is not about where people protest but WHAT the protest!
federal Judge and young girl were murdered next to Gabby Giffords, and we were all told it as because Sarah Palin put a mark on a map the size of the United States?
Paul Krugman – or his wife using his byline – promoted that bit of malicious nonsense. I do not think Krugman bothered to apologize when it came to light that the assailant was a hopeless schizophrenic who had hardly a coherent thought in his head. (He’d been steamed at Giffords since he appeared at some talk she gave and she gave him the brush off when he asked her a question. His question was “What is government, when words have no meaning?”).
‘I don’t have an official U.S. Government position on where people protest.’???? What is January the 6th about, then? I guess their position is not about where people protest but WHAT the protest!
Good point.
Given the volatility of the subject, doxxing the justices is the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater.
“Look, I think the president’s view is that there’s a lot of passion, a lot of fear, a lot of sadness from many, many people across this country about what they saw in that leaked document,’ Psaki said.”
Translation: if violence does occur, understandably outraged feelings will justify the violence.
Mac,
“I’m really concerned about false flag violence.”
How might an incident of false flag violence reverse this decision?
Adrian Day,
There you go again, confusing the issue with fact, logic and reason.
There is a Federal law against it too.
Title 18, Section 1507 of the United States Code:
Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
as if they care, peppermint psaki was a member of demand justice, the conduit to defame kavanaugh and force breyer to step down, so you expect her to even pretend to empathize,
that blood libel is part of the reason palin’s husband and later daughter were attacked at various instances, then there was that psycho stalker mcguinness who thankfully 6 feet under now, but he trafficked in more lies and drew a map to her homes’ back entrance, when she tried to have some semblance of accountability, well you know what happened,
a more implied threat, was what kept the justices from even considering the election fraud cases, that enabled this theft of this country, that mcarthy and mcconnell are fine with,
There is a Federal law against it too.
Whether the perpetrator is prosecuted or not will depend on the object of harassment.
This will not change until those doing it face certain retribution.
Sen Inhofe of OK is retiring at the end of this session, so there is a special election to fill the rest of his term.
There is one D running and a bunch of Rs. Since the primary is in June, we are starting to see a bunch of ads. The D used to have the OK5 seat, but lost after one term. In a way, she represents the western side of the state and Langford is already in the Senate. Many of the Rs have ties to the eastern part of the state, so I suspect that people will vote for someone from the east to replace Inhofe who is from Tulsa.
The OKC vs Tulsa is a real thing….
Rand Paul endorsed a person, but I never heard of him.
Rep. Markwayne Mullin is running and his ad has Trump in it, as well as references to his plumbing business. It was interesting that the ad also mentioned the number of children he has, as they all walk down a country road. He has done some interesting things in his life (MMA fighter, took over family business at age 20, etc).
Someone running for Atty Gen’l also has the large family shot. I took the family references as they were against abortion.
T.W. Shannon, who was the first AA Speaker of the OK House, is running and his ad is very current. It’s embedded in the fox news report. Tag line ” Don’t tell me that black lives matter until these lives matter.” He is standing in front of a Planned Parenthood office. It is effective.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/gop-senate-candidate-t-w-shannon-planned-parenthood
Scott Pruitt is also in the race, but I think he has too much baggage as Trump’s EPA administrator.
I can hardly wait for the phone calls and flyers in the mail….
sure thats not suspicious,
https://nypost.com/2022/05/06/fbi-pulls-clearances-of-employees-at-jan-6-rally-before-capitol-riot/?
seemingly aeons ago, shannon and lankford, were in a primary, he won and he bought the russian roundalay, hook line and sinker, mullins said some stupid things about january 6th, not that long ago, pruitt was tossed because some kerfluffle they conjured up
An interesting message the Left will be sending if they protest at the homes. We know where you live, and if you do not agree to OK our continued killing of fetuses, the delivery of violence to you, can easily be arranged.
The Left is made up of evil people.
‘We obviously want people’s privacy to be respected.’
Somehow that imperial WE isn’t very inclusive, nor equitable either.
Anyone that targets a justice, their home, and their loved ones is despicable and evil. There is no justification for going after people you disagree with in that way. None. Clearly the protesters only goal is to intimidate and threaten the justices to change their opinion to one the protesters agree with. And using “protesters” to describe them is not quite right, “Terrorists” is more accurate.
Given the federal statute cited above, a failure to even attempt to identify the perpetrators should arguably result in legitimate charges being brought against AG Garland for both Dereliction of Duty and Obstruction of Justice. Which has as much chance of happening as Biden’s impeachment for high crimes.
Well the atty general in virginia a fellow paisan would act but state officials below and federal officials above are silent
FWIW: “Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin, a Republican, is aware of the protests at U.S. Supreme Court Justices’s homes and has ordered Virginia State Police to monitor them and provide assistance if necessary, a spokeswoman for the governor told Breitbart News.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/06/exclusive-gov-youngkin-orders-virginia-state-police-to-monitor-protests-at-scotus-justices-homes-assist-if-necessary/
Thomas, Alito, and Barrett all currently live in Virginia.
One interesting comment about the “Ruth Sent Us” protest group: “The cure for ‘Ruth Sent Us’ is to send them to Ruth.”
}}} Next question to Jen, the valley girl; “If the White House doesn’t find it threatening, intimidating and reprehensible, what’s your address?”
Wouldn’t matter. We have jobs. They have paid professional agitators and brownshirt thugs.
Remember when Trump shut down air travel with a few countries, some of them Muslim, because those countries could not properly vet their airline passengers?
It was back in 2017 and the Left reacted by attempting to shut down US airports.
Obama approved and called it community “engagement”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-deflects-backlash-mounts-over-travel-ban-175549939.html
“After a weekend of chaos at airports, mass protests and diplomatic outcries, criticism of Trump’s proposal even came from Barack Obama, who broke his silence for the first time since leaving office.
“(FORMER) President Obama is heartened by the level of engagement taking place in communities around the country,” Obama spokesman Kevin Lewis said.
Now millions are streaming our border and mayorkas the one who built the cages says its totes fine (including the two dozen or so terrorists we know have been parolled)
The illegal protests won’t stop until …
the criminals doing the illegal acts are arrested, indicted, and tried.
If found guilty, the protests end sooner – but indictments are about 80%.
Youngkin should order the illegal protesters be arrested.
who will bell that cat
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ups-funding-pro-choice-group-targeting-churches-with-protests
Brownshirts not brown shorts?
@ PA Cat: “If you think Psaki is a problem, wait until you see her replacement: the first black and openly gay WH press secretary. Already there’s a conflict-of-interest question because Jean-Pierre’s partner is a (white) CNN reporter.”
For the record, Suzanne Malveaux (Jean-Pierre’s partner) is of mixed ancestry and considers herself black.
Even if Malveaux were white, why would that create a conflict-of-interest question? And is gayness somehow an issue, too?
MollyG:
The conflict of interest involves her employment with CNN and not her race.
Neo: Yes, I got that part right away. What confused me was the inclusion of the other information in what appeared to be the same context. I must have misread the comment.