Home » Open thread 3/23/22

Comments

Open thread 3/23/22 — 27 Comments

  1. I’m still slowly working through the back correction of national cases. If anyone has a link to that data on a spreadsheet it would help tremendously.

    Interesting developments on the state level: Florida now moving to biweekly reporting saying the number of cases is so low that this is warranted. Georgia still leads the way in cases/day at less than 1% of peak, or about 55/day. Connecticut is still in a bad way concerning deaths, with no change in last 30 days stuck at 14/day. As the cases in CT continue to trend low, the CFR for Connecticut is now the highest it’s been since the start of the pandemic at about 3.5%. Just for comparison, NC death rate now at 6/day with about 3x population.

  2. If anyone has a link to that data on a spreadsheet it would help tremendously.
    physicsguy, not sure if this is what you’re looking for, but if you go to that link and scroll down a bit and click on the “Data Table for Cumulative Cases per 100k in Last 7 Days” expand, there’s should be a download link for an excel spreadsheet.

  3. Grozny revisited….
    “…Drone footage gives a glimpse of the devastation wrought on the besieged city of Mariupol…”
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10643629/Ukraine-war-Drone-footage-reveals-devastation-Mariupol.html

    Ah well, what’s a little bloodlust every decade or so….

    Meanwhile, the UN has been, unless I’m mistaken, pretty quiet, all things being equal…
    Uh…wait a sec—CORRECTION:
    ‘UN Secretary General Guterres Calls Coal Investment “Stupid”‘—
    https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/un-secretary-general-guterres-calls-coal-investment-stupid

    (…OTOH…how many divisions does the UN have?)

    + Epitaph(?):
    “UN tells…staff not to call Ukraine conflict ‘war’ or ‘invasion’…”—
    https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/un-tells-comms-staff-not-to-call-ukraine-conflict-war-or-invasion/

    (Wouldn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings now, would one?…)

  4. Nonapod, Thanks, I did look at the CDC site earlier and it has a excel sheet for “new cases”. I’m looking for “total active cases” which is what WoM screwed around with and provides an interactive chart but no downloadable spread sheet, so I have to go through the chart by hand, day-by-day.

    Anyway the CDC graph shows the same trends in national data that I’ve been reporting, so there’s that.

  5. On Ukraine, an analysis that says the suffering people of Ukraine do not deserve an extended war of attrition. If at all possible, a negotiated settlement is needed. We’ll see what Zelensky and his government will accept, and what Putin will accept. Putin wants the Sea of Asov path for a land bridge to Crimea, and Crimea itself, separated from Ukraine. He also wants Ukraine to be neutral, which Zelensky has already publicly agreed to, and he wants no more Western weapons supplied to Ukraine. That last one is the kicker, probably. If I were Ukraine, I wouldn’t trust Russia after this. “Disarm and trust us” is not viable.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/23/the-u-s-should-have-no-part-in-fomenting-a-war-of-attrition-in-ukraine/

  6. On Ukraine, an analysis that says the suffering people of Ukraine do not deserve an extended war of attrition.

    I wouldn’t pay much attention to anyone who is neither a military historian nor a veteran of ground forces.

  7. I was going to post the Federalist article but Kate beat me to it. I’m glad to see his argument out there, if just to stimulate debate. He says it is not in US interest to see a prolonged war, and he laments that we haven’t engaged in any real negotiations. But of course it’s not ours to negotiate, since we recognize Ukraine as a sovereign country. The logical end to his argument seems to be, though he doesn’t come out and say it specifically, that the US should not provide any lethal aid and we should advise Ukraine to accept Putin’s terms, or something close to them.

    His premise, which he does say specifically, is that imposing some kind of humiliating defeat on Putin/Russia is an unrealistic dream. He doesn’t seem to offer much in the way of evidence of that, but maybe he’s right.

  8. I don’t think anyone on our side of the fence knows what’s really going on in Russia, or whether public opinion there makes any difference. Some military observers are now estimating Russian military deaths so far at 15,000; I had previously seen an estimate near 10,000, and numbers of injured are much higher. Russian leadership may not care about casualties; can they hide the numbers from the families of the dead and injured?

  9. His premise, which he does say specifically, is that imposing some kind of humiliating defeat on Putin/Russia is an unrealistic dream. He doesn’t seem to offer much in the way of evidence of that, but maybe he’s right.

    There is no indication that he has the sort of education and training which would allow an assessment of note. Write one of your own; it’ll be just as valid. Our guts can tells us one thing and another and its all very well and good. Still just our guts talking to us. By the way, people who use the character string ‘neo-con’ as an epithet in their writing and speaking are telling you not to bother with what follows.

  10. I don’t think anyone on our side of the fence knows what’s really going on in Russia

    That applies to Tucker Carlson, John Daniel Davidson, and Ron Unz just as much as it applies to anyone else.

  11. Here’s an “interesting” one:
    How “Voice of America” and the agency that runs it have been screwing the country for years! (with the approval and protection of the Democratic Party):

    “Federal agency that broadcasts America’s message had chronic security lapses, records show;
    “Biden administration quickly rehired senior officials dismissed on recommendation of career adjudicators, following investigation by outside law firm.”—
    https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/hold-federal-agency-broadcasts-americas-message-had-chronic-security

    Corruption is the name of the game. (And if you’re against corruption, you must be an…unmentionable…though actually in this case, the real “name of the game” is letting improperly vetted grifters into your organization and then letting them manipulate the system…)

  12. If the point is that we can’t read any analysis or opinion except from military historians and “experts,” then we ought to cease reading anything and let “experts” worry about foreign policy, war, and peace. Since the “experts” employed with the current administration appear to me to be, in general, ideologues who don’t understand the actual impact of what they’re doing, I think I’d rather continue looking at a range of viewpoints.

    Various military analysts, in our military and outside it, assess the war in Ukraine at this time as a stalemate. Either the stalemate will continue for quite some time, with ongoing destruction and loss of life in Ukraine, or some kind of political settlement could stop the carnage.

  13. If the point is that we can’t read any analysis or opinion except from military historians and “experts,” then we ought to cease reading anything and let “experts” worry about foreign policy, war, and peace. Since the “experts” employed with the current administration appear to me to be, in general, ideologues who don’t understand the actual impact of what they’re doing, I think I’d rather continue looking at a range of viewpoints.

    “Can’t”? I’m not coercing you.

    I’m pointing out that he does not speak with much authority. Maybe he’s sensible in a generic way, or maybe he’s notable for being articulate and not much else

  14. @ Kate > “If the point is that we can’t read any analysis or opinion except from military historians and “experts,” then we ought to cease reading anything and let “experts” worry about foreign policy, war, and peace. Since the “experts” employed with the current administration appear to me to be, in general, ideologues who don’t understand the actual impact of what they’re doing, I think I’d rather continue looking at a range of viewpoints.

    I’m trying to weight the punditry I read according the credentials of the pundit, so far as they are discernible. I immediately put anything from the Biden DOD or armed forces spokesmen/women/furries, Democrats in Congress or in general, and Left wing media at the bottom of the stack.

    Davidson of The Federalist is a professional journalist (never had another day job), but he comes from the right places and appears to have had the right policies at heart in the past. In the case of this war — I reserve judgement on his views, because he (like most opinion writers) doesn’t give footnotes. I assume he (and other pundits) are reading at least some experts, but we all know that “tell me the opinion and I’ll find you the man” is the media analog to Berea’s Maxim (although we can now include women in the quote, if we can determine what they are).

    https://www.texaspolicy.com/about/staff/john-davidson/

    John Davidson is a senior fellow at the Foundation. Davidson began his career in journalism, and has worked for a wide variety of publications and media companies. Before joining the Foundation in 2012 as director of the Center for Health Care Policy, he was Executive Editor for Issue Media Group, where he oversaw 19 weekly publications in the U.S. and Canada covering the creative economy, business innovation, and urban development.

    A graduate of Hillsdale College, Davidson is a 2013 Lincoln Fellow of the Claremont Institute. His writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, National Review, Texas Monthly, Forbes, First Things, the Claremont Review of Books, the LA Review of Books, n+1, and elsewhere.

    Kind of a mixed bag of outlets, but ya gotta make a living, and none of them are hair-raising leftist rags, although some are reliably left-tinged.

    A scan of the headlines of his recent posts at Federalist show that he is staunchly against getting embroiled in a war with Russia over Ukraine, but the preceding ones are all solidly conservative.
    https://thefederalist.com/author/jddavidson/

    This article was selected as the top substantive post on DDG – which reached all the way back to 2017 for it. I really wish I knew how their search algorithm works.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/28/republicans-healthcare-conservative-voters

    I’m a conservative – and I now see voting Republican is a waste of time – The Obamacare fiasco reveals that once they are in power, Republicans in Washington refuse to deliver on their promises

    I agreed with pretty much everything he wrote in that one.

  15. @ Barry > “…and “just like THAT”, Ukraine lost the support of the West…(?)”

    They’ll lose the support of some fringe factions, but remember that the US Left has given unwavering support to the Muslim countries in the Middle-East who hang gays and trans-anything from cranes or throw them off of walls.

    If it becomes convenient for Biden Inc. to ditch Ukraine, then this will become one of the pretexts; otherwise, it will be ignored.

    PS I would have added “and stones women for adultery allegations” (there are seldom any trials), but the Left doesn’t know what a woman is (per Kitanji Brown Jackson), and apparently no longer cares what happens to them.

  16. Oh, and I did like the piano video – especially the last piece!
    I’m going to start sending it to people on their birthdays.

    Noted on the YouTube channel by the poster:
    “Nicole Pesce in this video was inspired from Victor Borge performance.”

    I’ll have to check and see if he did the trick at the end; I would definitely believe that Mozart did (h/t Harpoon).

    Why, yes – he did!
    Victor Borge plays happy birthday in the style of different classical composers. From 1951.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkkHz8xq7lE

  17. AesopFan:

    I think the point about Davidson is that he went to college and then became a journalist and apparently has done nothing else, has no training in military matters and no history of even writing on this subject.

  18. @ Neo – I had meant to imply what you said by posting his bio and observing that he was “a professional journalist (never had another day job).”
    That he had never posted on military matters before wasn’t evident on just one page of his headlines, but I’m willing to believe it.

    https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2022/03/Screen-Shot-2022-03-08-at-9.00.36-PM.png?resize=768%2C969&ssl=1

    As for people I do believe (at least provisionally) on military and foreign relations:
    J. E. Dyer (retired Naval intelligence officer)
    https://theoptimisticconservative.wordpress.com/

    Michael Totten (boots-on-the-ground war reporting)
    (his blog links are all dead-ish except for very old archives)
    https://quillette.com/author/michael-j-totten/

    Austin Bay (he studied it and did it and writes about it)
    https://www.strategypage.com/on_point/index/current.aspx

    I don’t always agree with any of them, but I give their opinions a serious hearing because they surely know far more about the subjects than I do.
    We just don’t always see the tangential implications the same way.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

HTML tags allowed in your comment: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <s> <strike> <strong>