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Here we go again: it’s Groundhog Day! — 17 Comments

  1. No-one should ever forget that Comrade Wilhelm (in addition to being perhaps the worst mayor ever of Gotham, although Eric Adams seems intent upon matching his predecessor’s level of incompetence) managed to cause the death, nearly a decade ago, of Staten Island Chuck, who died of internal injuries after being clumsily dropped by “Hizzoner.” It is not only humans who are harmed by worthless leftist officials.

  2. To get different results, inward change is the catalyst for outward change. Very occasionally, hollywood got it right.

  3. I also really liked this movie. And yes, it’s not about how wonderfully lovable or perfect Rita is, but instead about Phil turning into a good human being.

  4. I am curious what others think- how long was Phil caught in the repeating loop? I don’t think I ever thought of it as centuries, more like a decade or two.

  5. How many years?
    “A line from an early draft of the Groundhog Day screenplay in which the character of Phil Connors admits to being trapped in a time loop for 10,000 years.”
    Wouldn’t it have to be for all the scenarios to play out?

  6. Yancey Ward:

    Somewhere in an old thread here about Groundhog Day I think there was a discussion of the time issue. I can’t find it now. But I always felt the Phil was undergoing the process for many many thousands of years. Something like 10,000 years. I was surprised to discover long ago that the majority of people thought it was a lot less time than that.

    I think it’s a question of how you feel about the speed of personal change for most people. I’ve observed it ordinarily to be very slow.

  7. The film is one of my favorites as well. It’s a beautifully-crafted modern fable about morality, and about man’s ability to transform and ultimately transcend himself. All this – in Small Town America!

    I think a lot of the film’s charm and popularity is unintentional, one of those rare alchemies that takes on a glow long after the first few runs – kind of like It’s a Wonderful LIfe. It’s become a cultural meme, one that virtually every American can recognize. And of course the only real tragedy from the effort is the bitter disharmony between Ramis and Murray that became deep-seated and life-long, only to be resolved with Ramis on his deathbed.

    There are quite a few scenes that never made it into the movie, but occasionally pop up on the internet. The pool hall scene is one, where Murray casually shoots a perfect game with multiple impossible trick shots – for instance. But really, the final edit is nearly perfect as it is, I think.

    10,000 years? No. Phil would have evolved into something different and probably unrecognizable by then. 10 years is much more believable and relatable in terms of a man’s ability to adapt and respond to such a situation. Picture yourself in the same daily event cycle over 36,000 times. You would reach near-omniscience a third of the way there. Think of people that have had careers doing the same thing, and their eventual mastery. 10 – 15 years is my guess.

  8. A bit of trivia I discovered last week:

    The Groundhog’s Day Master of Ceremonies in the film is played by Brian Doyle-Murray, who is — alley-oop — Bill Murray’s older brother. Once mentioned it’s not hard to see the resemblance.

    Doyle-Murray has had a long career as a character actor since “Caddyshack”. He has often been in Billy Murray’s films.

  9. I didn’t know this, though it’s unsurprising once informed.

    From Rufus’ Wikipedia link:
    Ramis supervised the rewrite, tasked with balancing Rubin’s desire for originality and the studio’s demand for a broad comedy. The pair loosely used the Kübler-Ross model of the five stages of grief—denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance—as an outline.

    I once did a tiny bit of research on the Kubler-Ross work and noticed that while the above psychological progression is the well known one for a successful recovery from a shock, they also had a progression for the failure to recover.

    Also, Neo’s last link is a religious take on the film, I think. (Blocked without a subscription.) The only surprising thing to me about the Christian community’s love of the film, is that director Ramis was worried that they’d hate it.

  10. I dated this young psychiatrist, Toria, because of “Groundhog Day” and it’s deeper meanings and our shared enjoyment of films.

    To her, the counseling role was primarily about patient’s recreating their own painful movies in front of her.

    She was a fine woman and deserved a good man in her life. I was unable to be that man because her own family of origin issues overlapped my own too much.

    C’est la vie. And yet another movie title pops up in my head to surmise us….a French one.

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