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  1. More from the Bee:

    “KENOSHA, WI—CNN joined with progressive groups in calling for Judge Bruce Schroeder—who is presiding over the Rittenhouse case—to be removed after an American flag was spotted in his courtroom.

    ‘It’s clear that this judge cannot be impartial,’ said CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, who was wearing a large trenchcoat and nothing else for some unknown reason. ‘The American flag is a symbol of oppression and white supremacy. Any judge who would allow that hateful symbol in his courtroom has no business presiding over this important case.’

    Further reports indicated that the Judge is a white male, has a family, and is a model citizen— and these are all serious red flags.”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-says-rittenhouse-judge-is-biased-since-he-has-a-us-flag-in-courtroom

  2. The Bee’s appeal, it has been said, is that you have to think several times to figure out whether it’s actually true.

  3. “Can the truth qualify as parody and satire?”

    The Left has repeatedly demonstrated their ability to do so.

  4. Whether he is found guilty or not, you can be sure 95% of the news stories have already been written and merely await details.

  5. Zaphod,

    Of more importance than the possible fate of the Bee is that even under the heel of Stalin, Solzhenitsyn survived. Tyranny cannot stomp out the human spirit. At best, all it can do is bury it for a time.

    But like the mythical Phoenix, it arises anew. The need for liberty and freedom are also part of human nature.

  6. Curious about the left’s reaction to the Rittenhouse trial, I made a visit to the Daily Kos.

    About as bad as one would expect. No concern for self-defense or facts, just non-stop HATE for Rittenhouse and everything horrible he represents to them.

    The only good news I could discern was that Daily Kos had no recent official stories on Rittenhouse. What I read were “diaries” — mini-blogs within the DailyKos mother blog, which any member can set up and start shouting to the world.

    Possibly the Daily Kos staff saw the Rittenhouse trial going sideways from their POV and are awaiting the verdict and the appropriate hive mind response to emerge, before taking action.

  7. @Huxley:

    Hadn’t heard of the drug. Nasty stuff!

    So maybe hasn’t taken off in the West where all the likely lads and lasses are off their heads on Meth, Fentanyl, and the Sackler Pills.

    YouTube algo threw up a channel hosted by a pretty intelligent and well-spoken ex meth addict the other day. Seems like an absolute demon of a drug.

  8. Barry. I recall seeing the play–it was shown over and over. What I don’t get is the reason for picking the particular prayer. Surely, the Act of Contrition wouldn’t fit, but the Hail Mary?
    OTOH, maybe it’s because a lot of us would need some intercession to get across the goal line.

  9. The Hail Mary is a kinda Catholic schoolkid thing. You see, when you have a need that you don’t want to “bother” God or Jesus with–you pray to Mary. And once you’ve got it down, you can say the hail Mary to yourself in less than eight seconds.
    It’s not something you are ever told, but something we figure out on our own.
    (Yes, I know what you think about that, Evangelical Christians and Protestants.
    You don’t have to tell me. We’ll see who all gets to heaven, and settle it there. 😉 )

    https://www.history.com/news/hail-mary-pass-roger-staubach-drew-pearson-1975

    “In a game against Georgia Tech in 1922, Notre Dame players literally said a “Hail Mary” prayer in the huddle before scoring a 6-yard touchdown. It worked, so they did it again before scoring another 6-yard touchdown. Afterward, Notre Dame offensive lineman Noble Kizer declared: “Say, that Hail Mary play is the best play we’ve got!”
    Perhaps the term would have vanished were it not for Elmer Layden, who played fullback in that 1922 game for The Fighting Irish and coached Notre Dame against Ohio State in 1935. With 32 seconds left, Notre Dame completed a 19-yard pass for the winning touchdown. Layden, recalling that victory against Georgia Tech, called it “a Hail Mary play.””

  10. I have no idea of the specifics—the general idea certainly resonates, though…

    And so, to…Wikipedia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass
    (Not sure we have to worry about any Left-wing bias here….)

    Key grafs (of many):
    “…The expression goes back at least to the 1930s…”
    “…The term became widespread after an NFL playoff game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings on December 28, 1975…when Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach said about his game-winning touchdown pass…, “I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary…”
    “…[Jim] Crowley often told the story of a game between Notre Dame and Georgia Tech on October 28, 1922, in which the Fighting Irish players said Hail Mary prayers together before scoring each of the touchdowns, before winning the game…”
    Etc…

    Whether this meant that Catholic QBs had a distinct advantage over the years I have no idea, but over the decades, it not only became the MVP but came to mean a last ditch attempt against all odds—not only in the realm of football or sports in general.

  11. Barry. Used to do/was raised Catholic. I know the prayer and you’ve gotta have a name for the phenomenon. Had not heard how the connection originated.

  12. If “Hail Mary” sounds wrong or unsuitable, I guess there’s always the expression “on a wing and a prayer”…. (Might be more ecumenical but it’s not nearly as short and to the point.)

  13. The “Hail Mary” is arguably the most frequently said prayer in the world, given the number of Catholics and how often they say it and skipping the short prayers a sentence or less long.

    As I recall, there are 53 “Hail Mary’s” in each rosary. Catholics don’t say the rosary as much as they used to, but still.

    At a friend’s church the priest has worked to phase out Mary — even the weekly rosary a group of old women would say. I guess Mary is embarrassing for the New Ecumenicism of something. John Paul II was a deeply Marian pope and helped hold that back.

    The veneration of Mary is a bit of a mystery. Certainly Mary is mentioned in the New Testament and she is the Mother of Jesus. However, aside from that and “Behold your Mother” in John’s gospel, she’s a background figure. Jesus is even abrupt with Mary when she prods him to the water into wine miracle at the wedding feast.

    There is no suggestion in the Acts of the Apostles that Mary would play such a large part in the future church.

    I once tried to trace this down and all I could come up with is that Marian devotion emerged organically in the first or second century and never went away.

    A nice thought for a Sunday morning.

  14. The Bee is using humor, the best weapon in liberal democracy, against the illiberal Democrats. (Dems on ballots, not “Left”).

    It’s like Alice:

    ‘No, no!’ said the Queen. ‘Sentence first – verdict afterwards.’

    ‘Stuff and nonsense!’ said Alice loudly. ‘The idea of having the sentence first!’

    ‘Hold your tongue!’ said the Queen, turning purple.

    ‘I won’t!’ said Alice.

    ‘Off with her head!’ the Queen shouted at the top of her voice. Nobody moved.

    ‘Who cares for you?’ said Alice, (she had grown to her full size by this time.) ‘You’re nothing but a pack of cards!’

    The Dems want the sentence, the punishment. Of course, part of the punishment IS the process.

    We anti-Woke folk are not yet close to our full size, tho the Woke folk do seem to be little more than a pack of cads; and sluts; and liars; and enraged control-freaks.

  15. Personally I take conservative humor as a leading indicator that we are winning. Our jokes are much better than theirs these days.

    Breitbart famously said, “Politics is downstream from culture.” Comedy is part of culture. Ergo.

    I would argue liberal comedy was killing it in the 50s/60s/70s and that was no small part of how the left won the culture wars.

    Speaking as a member of the sixties counterculture, I see a lot of parallels today as conservatism becomes the new counterculture.

  16. Didn’t saying “x” number of “Hail Marys” (or writing them) constitute a punishment of sorts for kids in parochial schools?
    (If I remember all those French movies correctly…or Almodovar’s…)

    Penitence, I guess.

  17. “as conservatism becomes the new counterculture.”

    What doesn’t kill it, makes it stronger.

    Maybe.

    I AM hoping to see “conservatives as cool”. But doubt con-cool is coming, tho a conservative rebellion against Democrat lies and liars seems plausible.

    Rod Dreher (author Live Not By Lies), among others, is looking at the current rise of Wokism like a death-knell for a tolerant, Free Speech (=free thinking) democracy. I fear it’s going to get still worse before it gets better.

    The “key” to any culture is that culture’s answer to the God questions:

    What is sacred?
    What is Good?
    Every culture has a way of living a Good Life.
    “Consume mass quantities”, whether as coneheads or just customers, is seldom enough.

    But the rulers will mostly come from the elite colleges, where the successful students are mostly successfully indoctrinated to be Woke, and hate Republicans, and expecting to step into high status ruler-ship roles.

    The discrimination against Republicans needs to be talked about, and changed, before things will be getting better. I don’t see it happening soon, even if Reps win in 2022 and 2024.

  18. “However, aside from that and “Behold your Mother” in John’s gospel, she’s a background figure. Jesus is even abrupt with Mary when she prods him to the water into wine miracle at the wedding feast.”

    Well, one supposes that that depends on what one means by a background figure.

    If you exclude the Annunciation theme, and the whole Christmas scene business, and focus exclusively on the ministry of Jesus, then,I suppose you have a point.

    Now as to the specific ” role” which Mary has in Christian soteriology, one might, I suppose, start off with “Behold the handmaid, of the Lord”; or go back further and prospectively to Isaiah. ( Note in this regard that the Vulgate is based on the Septuagint version, which as a complete text, very much predates the Masoretic manuscript text, which in terms of extant manuscripts is distincly post Christian, and therefore, in strictly logical, terms cannot be evaluated apart from that potentially reactive context. Re. The well known debate)

    I’m kind of surprised to be the one making this comment – since growing up, I had absolutely no sympathy for Catholicism, and even a real hostility toward it, and in general toward Catholic adults ( as war losers, and emotional weakling or hypocrite types) , despite my mother being a good and virtuous one.

    For those interested in the history of the feminization of RC worship, and the development of the wan fringe bearded milquetoast Christ of the High Middle Ages and early modern era, I’d recommend Leon Podles work, “Church Impotent”

    Compare the image of some flaccid depressed feminized Renaissance era Christ, with the Pantocrator image of the St Catherine Monastery, very.much nearer in time to the beginnings of Christiany.

    The Christian Church in Europe has had a gay pollution problem that predates the wreckage they have most recently caused in the RC Church, by some centuries.

  19. The Surber article gets it, for sure. To admit Rittenhouse was legitimately defending himself, you have to admit he was not in a rainbow-hued peace-out gathering but instead an alarming and despicable riot. For this reason, I was glad to see how much video the defense got into the record that shows the real context, which was violent, out of control, scary, outright murderous jerks trying to destroy everything around them. Among them wanders Rittenhouse with a first-aid kit, occasionally putting out fires. From the testimony of the Daily Caller reporter, what was beginning to make the crowd so furious was, more than anything else, his effrontery in putting out their fires, while city leaders were graciously extending them a “space to destroy,” the poor darlings, because they were virtuously upset.

    I hardly know what to expect of the jury on this. I wish I could predict an acquittal, and I’ll be immeasurably reassured if it happens. More likely, I’m afraid, is a hung jury, because surely at least one or a handful of jurors will have their eyes open to what was going on that night, not the absurd media spin.

  20. So interesting to come to this thread and talk about football and Mariology. 🙂

    In the context, a “Hail Mary” effort often means a long-shot try for something probably out of reach. Praying to Mary for help implies that one’s goal is a good one, which surely doesn’t apply to this Kenosha prosecutor, who is trying to send a young man to prison for life based on a fuzzy and highly questionable enhanced photo. I hope his goal is indeed out of reach.

  21. DNW:

    If one reads the New Testament, there is little to foreshadow the huge Marian movement among Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, even to some extent among Muslims.

    Jesus spoke at length about loving God, praying to God, loving one’s neighbor, forgiving others and avoiding sin and hypocrisy. His main action was to heal and he enjoined his followers to heal. Beyond the possibly apocryphal instruction to John, Jesus said nothing about devotion to Mary.

    There is far more in the New Testament about his disciples than Mary. And none of the disciples, as well as St. Paul, made mention of Mary aside from that lone passage from John’s gospel.

    This isn’t some angle I came up with. Most Protestants rather pointedly avoid Marian devotion and regard it as non-Biblical Catholic superstition, if not outright idol worship.

    I’m OK with it, but no one is asking me.

  22. Kate:

    I hadn’t read the RedState piece. I hope there are more liberal Bill Ackmans around than are currently visible.

  23. @ Huxley,

    Allow me to quote myself quoting you, since we seem to be moving off point. At least the point I quoted you as making. Viz.:

    “However, aside from that and “Behold your Mother” in John’s gospel, she’s a background figure. Jesus is even abrupt with Mary when she prods him to the water into wine miracle at the wedding feast.”

    All and any ruminations on the growth and nature of Marian devotions aside, the point I am making is that there is significant mention of Mary in connection with Christian soteriology in the Gospels.

    The first chapters of the Gospel according to Luke, are sufficient evidence of that.

    What Dominic Crossan thinks about Luke is irrelevant for the development of these devotional practices.

    Jesus as the “revolutionary”, or “protofeminist”, or “healer” interests me as little as does Buddha, or any of the other religious clowns and maniacs of history.

    I’ll leave it to others to wade in those waters.

  24. DNW:

    I am saying that pound for pound and word for word, there is little in the Gospels about Mary compared to the disciples. Period.

    Yes, I know about the Annunciation and the wedding feast, but that’s not a whole lot and judging by Acts and the rest of the Epistles, that’s borne out.

    Nor is there much in early Christian history which bears it out. I looked. Maybe things have become clearer since then, but Marian devotion was not top-down, was not forecast in early writings. It just happened, bottom-up.

    I have no idea why you are bringing up Dominic Crossnan and the whole revolutionary, proto-feminist bete noir you are applying to this discussion. That’s entirely separate.

  25. DNW,

    If you look at images of Judgment Day from throughout history (e.g. Torcello), with Jesus in his role as eschatological judge of all souls, Christ is severe, unyielding. Even in Michaelangelo’s Sistine Chapel, Christ is poised to condemn the lost—his torso like a perfect diagram of destroying power. No wonder there was a call from the pews for a more maternal, nurturing deity. (Perhaps John himself inserted her in his Apocalypse, as ‘a woman clothed with the sun.’) Far from Mary the Vigorous replacing a Jesus the Wimp, the case seems to have been quite the reverse in the early centuries of the church. (I am paraphrasing from memory a passage in Henry Adam’s “Mont-Saint-Michel and Chartres.”)

  26. I have no idea why you are bringing up Dominic Crossnan and the whole revolutionary, proto-feminist bete noir you are applying to this discussion.

    Because this below, reminded me of that man and his thesis.

    “His main action was to heal and he enjoined his followers to heal …”

    I do not say you took it from him, but wherever you got it, it has nothing to do with orthodox Christian belief. Which is fine for you.

    But as I indicated – since you had already volunteered your view – I have no more interest in “the healer” Jesus per se, than I do in any of the other numerous thaumaturgists, hierophants, and lunatics of the ancient world

  27. “desertowl on November 14, 2021 at 5:24 pm said:

    DNW,

    If you look at images of Judgment Day from throughout history (e.g. Torcello), with Jesus in his role as eschatological judge of all souls, Christ is severe, unyielding. Even in Michaelangelo’s Sistine Chapel, Christ is poised to condemn the lost—his torso like a perfect diagram of destroying power. No wonder there was a call from the pews for a more maternal, nurturing deity. (Perhaps John himself inserted her in his Apocalypse, as ‘a woman clothed with the sun.’) Far from Mary the Vigorous replacing a Jesus the Wimp, the case seems to have been quite the reverse in the early centuries of the church. (I am paraphrasing from memory a passage in Henry Adam’s “Mont-Saint-Michel and Chartres.”)

    Christ the wan, nurturing, hermaphroditic wimp, seems to appeal to a certain subset of mankind. That is the Christ of the oily orange ringlets, the scant beard, the oval face and bulging eyes. Looking more like a Medieval Dutch catamite, than The Son of Man.

    It is as if they are not looking for a Redeemer ( and eventually Judge) , but a tepid and nuzzling “Affirmer”. ‘Your sins are forgiven you. Go and sin some more.’ Human! All too Human!

  28. DNW:

    I did not make up Christ as a healer. In addition to his words, Christ was known for his miracles, i.e. actions.

    What were those miracles?

    Healing.

    Whether you find that agreeable or not.

    And I would appreciate that you not lump me in with other people just because, to you, I might sound like them. You are talking to me, not them.

  29. huxley on November 14, 2021 at 6:11 pm said:

    DNW:

    I did not make up Christ as a healer.

    I did not suggest you did. In fact I surmised a parallel between your view and Crossan’s.

    Whether it is coincidental or you adduced it all on your own – which I think you say is so – is OK by me either way.

    In addition to his words, Christ was known for his miracles, i.e. actions.

    What were those miracles?

    Healing.

    Whether you find that agreeable or not.

    Well, I suppose that you can include just about any miracle under the rubric of “healing”, if your concepts are elastic enough. Enough say, to include feeding multitudes with a few loaves and fishes; casting out demons; walking on water, and calming the storm as object lessons; exhibiting a preternatural knowledge of the condition of souls; preaching the Kingdom of salvation; raising the dead, and being resurrected; and “miraculously” instructing the very keepers of the flame on the meaning of the scriptures for the purpose of their and everyone’s edification and rectification.

    Of course, that first miracle you mentioned in connection with his Mother and the feast at Cana, would probably be one that it would be hard to shoehorn into a healing category, no matter how hard one tried.

    But then, maybe you are more inventive that I am.

  30. I’ve tried derailing threads many times. I now doff my hat to the true master, Barry Meislin, who has pulled off an epic effort without even appearing to do so.

    Well done, Sir!

  31. Wee problem with Monotheism is that whilst elegant on paper, it tends not to have Something for Everybody. So you have to start adding in the equivalent of Ptolemaic Epicycles to keep the punters happy — whether it be out-lawyering God Dersh-wise, co-opting Ishtar and a bunch of local deities, or Jibreel and the Djinns and a flying Horse FFS.

    FWIW there’s something a bit more restrained and sane about the Orthodox and their Theotokos than some of the more undignified Irish and Polish (to pick two) carryings on of yore.

    In the faint hope of out-doing Mister Meislin, allow me to end with just one word which has been enough to derail a million historical threads:

    Filioque.

  32. DNW:

    OK. How about we can settle on miracles 80% healing and 20% other. I am mostly struck by his healings.

    So, I take it we agree then, that among other things, Christ was a major healer. Even though you find that a problem somehow.

    You still haven’t made a clear point regard Marian devotion.

    Which I brought up as a genuine mystery. I say it was not predictable from reading the New Testament or the early Church fathers. It grew out of the experience and practice of anonymous early Christians and became a major movement within today’s Christianity. Like it or not.

  33. “In the faint hope of out-doing Mister Meislin, allow me to end with just one word which has been enough to derail a million historical threads:

    Filioque.”

    You will have to find someone – even if it takes some looking – more dogmatic and pedantic than I am, if you wish to provoke a controversy out of that.

    Here … https://archive.org/details/dionysiusareopag00pseu enjoy.

  34. @Huxley:

    The cult of the Great Mother was all over the ancient Near East in various manifestations. Christianity picked up all kinds of syncretic bits and pieces during the early centuries — mostly bottom up, I’d imagine. The top-down heresies were often times orders of magnitude more bizarre and esoteric.

    Back to my bit about Monotheism needing bells and whistles and curlicues and epicycles because it’s just too austere for all but the most fanatical fanatics:

    You get something similar in the Buddhist world. Pure Buddhism is closer to philosophy than religion. It might console Marcus Aurelius, but less so a parent has just lost a young child. Not many regular common people going to be consoled by the nothingness of it all — so you get whole cosmologies of Bodhisattvas, let alone accompanying animist syncretisms, and even Brahmanic throwback God-King Worship (hello Thailand) existing alongside and along with.

    There’s no big mystery about Mariology. She’s Ishtar with a Mikveh, Guanyin, Tin Hau… and so on.

  35. Zaphod on November 14, 2021 at 7:08 pm said:

    I’ve tried derailing threads many times.

    Yes, you have. you little devil you. And don’t think that your goodly efforts have gone either unnoticed or unappreciated.

    We can always count on you to strike a match when things get a little too hum drum.

  36. Dodging DNW’s atypically tendentious link recommendation and riffing off the areopag in it…

    Repeating this link post from a few days ago:

    All of Paradise Lost.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GINzUBvQ5nw&t

    Satan kicks off at 5:20. Skip the boring goodie two shoes stuff. Voiced by an excellent actor. You’ve all heard this voice before.

  37. @DNW:

    “Or do you mean functions as a psychological substitute for …”

    Come to think of it there’s a whole raft of psych literature about the ‘Good Enough Mother’ after Winnicott. So there’s a slap-dash cut price C20 dime store ink stamp Imprimatur.

    Thanks. Will watch the Spanish thing.

  38. To be fair, the craziest things in proto-Christianity or the cults of divers saints had nothing on (say) the Cult of Cybele. But everything old is new again and I can see this one or something similar undergoing a recrudescence in the next decade. Enough trannies prancing around already to start a priesthood and commence franchising operations.

  39. Zaphod on November 14, 2021 at 8:04 pm said:

    Dodging DNW’s atypically tendentious link recommendation and riffing off the areopag in it…

    Repeating this link post from a few days ago:

    All of Paradise Lost.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GINzUBvQ5nw&t

    Satan kicks off at 5:20. Skip the boring goodie two shoes stuff. Voiced by an excellent actor. You’ve all heard this voice before.”

    I’ll give it a listen. I feel it is my duty in return for all your contributions here. Even though I agree with Plato about killing all the poets. Or, was that John Ball, about lawyers? Seems my list is growing ever longer.

    I don’t know what it is about poets that makes me want to smash their faces, and then kick them in the neck when they are down … Only in a figurative sense of course, not literally, not quite literally, and only in the very best and most benevolent of the figurative senses.

    Now when you get time you should read Rolt’s introduction ….

    It is a masterpiece of attempting to make sense and imagery out of mystic non-sense. I’m not arguing for Neoplatonism, by the way. Just illustrating where the mind goes when trying to grasp the un-reachable.

  40. @DNW:

    Your buddy Rolt has opened the spigot well and truly by page 14 and we’ve shot past Heraclitus/Laozi and are now rocketing at light speed through Maxwell’s Equations. Where it all ends, only God knows. Or can He? My head hurts.

  41. Zaphod on November 14, 2021 at 9:21 pm said:

    @DNW:

    Your buddy Rolt has opened the spigot well and truly by page 14 and we’ve shot past Heraclitus/Laozi and are now rocketing at light speed through Maxwell’s Equations. Where it all ends, only God knows. Or can He? My head hurts.

    Although the terminology of Dionysius used in attempting to describe the nature or way in which the Godhead could be said to meta-exist or super-exist is couched in the language of classical logic i.e., universals and particulars, and metaphysics, i.e. substance and essence and accident, and thus quite unsatisfying to the modern mind, I think that Rolt does a yeoman’s job of trying to tease out, or provide plausible visual cues which we hopefully can use to get the gist of it.

    In the very pages you mention, he begins to lay out the idea of virtual existence in the forms of streams and emanations which until they intersect are not yet actual, as in “real” as we understand material reality.

    That image I took away may not be precisely what Rolt had in mind, much less Dionysius himself; but the image of “rotating” or whirling or radiating [figuratively speaking] streams [figuratively speaking again] of superessential potentiality becoming actualized as being only when they “intersect” and then effloresce so to speak [in the trivial non-chemical reaction sense] into being, is rather interesting.

    Not even sure I got the picture perfectly. But it sure struck me as more interesting than the diagrams of Plotinus’ simple system of radiating and gradated emanations I saw drawn on the chalkboard back in school. LOL

  42. @DNW:

    Rotation (Dervishes? Kali’s Dance?), Flow, the Tao, panta rhei… EM wave components’ orthogonality… You’re quite right that adding a bit of movement and duality to the mix makes for better imagery.

    Back in the day, Rolt would have been perceived as yearning for a burning and granted his wish after the best of all possible trials.

    Certainly not the very dry and boring Christian theology I have a very limited familiarity with. Having an impressionistic and discursive / lazy nature: Zaphod Likee.

    @Huxley: You ought to read this lot. It’s fellow done Greats at Oxford with distinction channeling the Dancing Wu Li Masters on some particularly recherché Mushrooms gatecrashing the Council of Chalcedon… Or something like that.

  43. Veneration of Mary can be promoted. But it needs a market. People have to buy it, to be crass.
    Would they? The nurturing, non-demanding, non-judgmental mother intercessoress is a comforting figure.
    “Be with us now and at the hour of our death, amen”
    What, you want Moses with his tablets checking your score card when the tourniquet falls off?

  44. @DNW:

    Did anyone else go to your school? Do we need to round them up as a precautionary measure? 🙂

  45. Zaphod. Thanks.
    I hesitated. Sometimes something is so obvious that mentioning it as if it’s new to folks is insulting. And sometimes it’s not and it’s hard to know which is which.

    The Divine Procuress is an interesting figure, especially if She has a franchise downtown.

    It’s said that the need to get women as far forward as possible in military medicine is that young guys don’t want to cry in front of their comrades.

  46. All tremendously fascinating…but it does raise the question: What in tarnation are we gonna do with all them Pietas?

    As far as killing off all the poets, wouldn’t it just be easier to outlaw poignancy, grief, introspection, love….emotion generally? (Or maybe just rhyme and/or meter…)

    On second thought, there must be some “muscular” poets out there… (King David? Dante? D.H. Lawrence? Pound? Ted Hughes…or even Marcus Aurelius?). I imagine that these, and perhaps several others, might be tolerated…. (To the tune of “Onward Muscular Poets!…)

    Curiously, not that I’m an expert, but instead of searching for various Mediterranean (or global) instances of matriarchy/motherhood on which to base the Marian phenomenon, the source may well exist closer to home—echoing the image of “Mother Rachel caring for her children” throughout the generations…. (Though, I could well have gotten the two issues chronologically backward here…where’s Robert Graves when you really need him?)

    In any event (and in the spirit of Ishtar), this—timeless—one’s for you:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WUdlaLWSVM

  47. Back “on track” (finally):
    No joke, there should be some sort of prize for this kind of thing:
    https://nypost.com/2021/11/14/msnbc-joy-reids-crying-shame-devine/

    But I guess some people really must hate “with all one’s might, with all one’s heart and with all one’s soul…”

    To be sure, a good, solid distraction from “transitory inflation” would sure be welcome….

    Hold on! Here’s one that looks like it has potential:
    https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-nuclear-unit-germany-reactivates-dark-eagle-hypersonic-missiles

  48. Turley with a warning about the media:
    “…Turley Fears Consequences Of Media’s Distorted Rittenhouse Coverage”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/one-man-not-society-trial-turley-fears-consequences-medias-distorted-rittenhouse-coverage

    The media is—shocking, I know—behaving irresponsibly.
    They are actually misrepresenting the truth—AKA lying—of this trial in hyper-hysterical fashion.

    So what happens when the media itself BECOMES the hysterical lynch mob? (And eggs on others to join them….) What happens when the media shrieks “FIRE” in the national theater? What happens when the media exhorts and abets violence? What happens when the media targets a defendant.

    Freedom of speech?
    (Or “To Kill a Mockingbird”….?)

  49. As far as killing off all the poets, wouldn’t it just be easier to outlaw poignancy, grief, introspection, love….emotion generally?

    Since the number of soft males who are possessed by the impulse to annoy others with the versified product of their mental derangement are fewer than the number of those humans who experience grief and love with a certain amount of dignity, declaring open season on the poets would be the more sensible option if it had to come to that. More just, too.

    But of course as I stated, my remark was to be construed in a figurative way, kindly almost. And as I am more or less a free speech absolutist, I am resolutely opposed to the idea of an organized or state sponsored harrowing of the poets.

    Leave it to the truck drivers to handle informally, I say.

  50. @Barry Meislin:

    “Mother Rachel caring for her children” throughout the generations….”

    Your idea had wings… or at least wheels… or it did until I figured out that she was a Mother-in-law, too.

    You know what they say…

  51. Old school Lutheran here, so the whole Mary thing always seemed kinda cultish.
    Until a recent insight occurred. Mary is the redemption of Eve.
    Those Catholics – they think of everything!

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